Complete Creation, 2nd Ed., Part 13 with Wazooloo

[stormyandcold]

It's completely logical. You don't need to be a scientist to see the reality.

A recent example that mistakes are corrected quickly is in the show about the uglies agency in london. One of the little people's son was shown. His son was normal.

Whatever caused him to be small was corrected in literally the next generation.

[disdroid]

I'm a little confused here, pls correct me. The video before, ian spoke of mutations beeing lethal. Now there are genetic mistakes (that i assume are mutations) that aren't repaired and sum up. Still these are not lethal. At least not all of the mutations are lethal then and many of them chanche the Phanotype's (being) apearance and behavior over many generations. So to me the macro-evolution is not jet disproofed jet.

[Jman3000]

@disdroid

What he saying is that these genetic mistakes are slowly killing us and every other organic thing. They are not improving life but destroying it. It happens slowly

If life has been around for 20 billion years (sorry if incorrect) Life should have died along time ago.

[Cannonfodder69]

@Jman3000 It's a good thing life hasn't been around for 20 billion years then. That would be about four times older than our solar system. Life began about 3.9 - 3.6 billion years ago. And genetic mutations are not always harmful. Many are neutral and have little impact on an organism's life. Some are harmful, and those tend to be reduced over consecutive generations through the primary mechanism of evolution, which is natural selection. And others are beneficial, and those get passed on.

[Jman3000]

@Cannonfodder69 I'm flabbergasted as to why I said 20 billion years...

[Watergun950]

Evolution is clearly a joke of a theory.

[Bunyipz]

the bible is the biggest book of jokes ever.... and so many clowns reading it lol

[Eaglewing17]

@Watergun950 true dat

[xnovaflarex]

So far every argument against creation ive seen on the comments here all amount tozero. Vauge references to non existance evidence for evolution and when its pointed out to the poster making such vauge claims foul language results.You cant defend your stance so cuss those (us creationists) who can. I bet have the oful mouthed comentators here never een watched the video they made their foul comments on.

[sweatytoothmadman]

Then you didn't read the comments carefully.

"So far every argument against creation"

Ian never made an argument for creation he did how ever talk about basic misconception of evolution for nearly 30 minutes.

"Vauge references"

I decided to watch this video again because of what you said and at 2:28 seconds Ian makes a reference to an article who's title he's not sure of and an author he can't name.

[3dollarme]

It fascinates me to notice WHICH side of this debate is presenting scientific evidence, and which side is foulmouthed and in love with name-calling!

[PlasticSaladSurgery]

I don't give two shits about religion or science...

I just think you are an ignorant fucktard!

[Johannes9126]

The genetic code is deterioration? Haha! You can stop the vid right there (1:38) and know that they are out of their mind.

[3dollarme]

Deteriorating.

Genetic flaws are a scientific reality.

Think about it: If Adam and Eve were really the parents of all of us, and their kids had healthy DNA with ZERO flaws, anyone could marry anyone else and not have kids with genetic illnesses. Nowadays, you marry your cousin and your kids will not have such a good chance.

Ian's just stating verifiable facts. We're going downhill!

[Johannes9126]

What do genetic flaws have to do with deterioration? If we had some sort of "devolution" we would see random mistakes, randomly distributed. But this is not what we see. Get some education, cretard.

[3dollarme]

Sorry, I can't do your homework for you, young fella!

[Johannes9126]

Actually, it is you who didn't do his homework. Or didn't pay attention in biology.

[3dollarme]

Thanks for the humor!  Made my day.

[Terrencje]

"If Adam and Eve were really the parents of all of us, and their kids had healthy DNA with ZERO flaws"

ZERO FLAWS huh?

So the VIT 1,2,3 genes in our DNA were active, we would have proteins that get all the proteins for egg-yolk and block other proteins such as placentation. Meaning we would be infertile and could not get offspring.

So the DNA as it is in humans CAN NEVER be flawless.

[sweatytoothmadman]

The supposedly peer reviewed journals by creationists always start with the conclusion then go on to prove their conclusion, no wonder why they always arrive at the very same conclusion that they started with "God did it"!

Now before you try and reverse the accusation you should understand that in a secular peer reviewed journal you are guilty till proven innocent. That means they disagree with you and attack your ideas at every angle possible.

[worm102]

Evolution is just another lair conjured up by Satan.

[Wordsmith21]

Very interesting!

I'm just curious why I never was taught anything about these examples in my many years of education. Sure gives one something to think about where evolution is concerned.

Wordsmith21

[Johannes9126]

"I'm just curious why I never was taught anything about these..."

Because it ain't true. Evolution can perfectly explain these facts, but those fundy liars surely won't tell you.

[3dollarme]

Because there is a vocal minority that wants you to turn off your brain and NOT consider the alternatives, and to NOT look at all the evidence. They will accuse you of being "unscientific", no matter how thoroughly you apply scientific principles, and will call you a liar, a "fundy", and anything else to distract from the fact that there is NO proof for the mere hypothesis that is evolution.

[Terrencje]

No proof for evolution? - Mitochondria in cells - Chloroplasts in cells - VIT 1,2,3 in DNA of mammals - GULO gene in primates - Many transitional fossils (predicted) - Embryology - biogeography - homology - ERV's - transposons - Nested hierarchies - Atavisms Next to the cell theory, germ theory and the theory of DNA, the theory of evolution is the fundamental theory of life.

[3dollarme]

I have never seen a transitional fossil -- and there should be loads of them, if they are a scientific reality.

The notion is interesting. I used to believe in evolution until I realized that it couldn't explain systems that had to have ALL parts working together, evolving together, etc. What came first, the Mitochondria, the chloroplasts, or the cell wall? And what did the one do while waiting for the others to evolve? Or, how could all parts "evolve" together? There's no model, even.

[PlasticSaladSurgery]

That is becuase you are a dumb shit... you thinks scientists are stupid????

They have no problem explaining it...

HOLY FUCK

You are an incredulous, ignorant, arrogant Fucktard!

[3dollarme]

Perhaps, young fellow, but I've been alive for a number of decades now, and I have noticed that when the people who are most likely to be WRONG are also the people who sling crass, vulgar, obscene insults at others (because they have no valid information to discuss), and they always resort to name-calling. Not so with the people who rely on things like...oh, science...silly things like that. Please, explain in detail how a cell might have evolved from a non-cell.

[Terrencje]

"I have never seen a transitional fossil -- and there should be loads of them, if they are a scientific reality."

Look harder, there are lists of them.

"What came first, the Mitochondria, the chloroplasts, or the cell wall?"

Of those three?

A basic cell wand. Mitochondria and chloroplast are not nessecary for a prokaryotic cell. When you look at the charakteristics of mitochondria and chloroplast you will find their ancestors where living freely once (endosymbiosis you know ;))

[McMonster65]

so- you used to belive in evolution until you learned how to chant some discredited slogans from unedcated creationists!

try reading some biology- it might help.

[Galacticavatar]

@McMonster65 Charles Lyel was an uneducated "scientist" (trained as a lawyer, yet he's still considered the father of geology). Typical atheist hypocrite.

[Eaglewing17]

@3dollarme thats exactly what they do. but most of it to me is the media's fault.