Its Newcastle, its not bad driving just many drivers would not open her up till the last coaches are free of the platform, if i remember correctly there is a limit on that platform due to the camber most noise is the wheels in the curve of the track. That engine is not being opened right up even then its been taken to first notch on the excellerator then put to about a third as the train pulls off
@meadstuart both locos WERE working, listen to the first 10 seconds the Deltic revs up and shortly afterwards the 50, you can also see the exhaust plume from both, after approx 40 seconds the 50 eases off and you can hear the turbos spooling down. The drivers normally signal to each other if the locomotives are not connected for multiple working
@meadstuart Just because the deltic isn't fitted with MU cables doesn't mean the 50 can't provide power it just means that both loco's need to be crewed who will keeping in contact with each other in some way it's called working in tandem.
The Locos have a lot of power. But it's only the Engine what ist powerful. The transition, the electroengine also is weak ^^ you feel nothing from the Power of the Mainengine.. Our Locos in Germany have less Horspower, but they are faster anyway + they have a lot higher Acceleration ^.^ Our Diesel-locos need just 2000HP..
Us colonials seem to appreciate massive diesels hauling heavy trains. These locos originally came from Victoria and were one of their top range locos. Sorry, very Yankee design but built locally.
Reputation of being very noisy. Thisloaded coal train really pushed them on a very long 1 in 44 grade on outskirts of Sydney.
Hope appreciate. My father came from Swindon, so I must have inherited the train lore from him.
Hey you guy's, my apologies on behalf of Saltashlad, Im a train driver, I have been for 23 years, I for one do not AGREE whatsoever with the above named, Train spotters, Rail enthusiasts I think your all great guy's and gall's, I've ALWAYS time for you, sadly, some of my college's are SAD idiots, but I would like to think, their in their own tiny minority!!
Woah!! That was a bit harsh! I thought train drivers were die hard train enthusiasts. It should be the case. If i was a train driver, i'd be a million percent passionate about the job unlike this guy but it's so hard to get into now. They only take the cream of the crop and they usually prefer graduates. Shame
graduates to drive a train? really? I'm not disagreeing, just suprised, the wages are not what I'd want after 3-4 years at university. I don't know if I'd be passionate about the job, there are so few classes of loco around these days, only the intercity HST remains from the good old days and those have had the hearts ripped out of them
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At the end of the day you can post all your facts&figures out of a book..But I am a traindriver&thats crap driving..You sad spotters need2get a life...When us drivers see you at wk-ends we think your all a bunch of sad twats..GET A LIFE...
im no anorack or nothing, and i just happened to be here by chance but don't you think you're being a bit harsh? So what if people like to look at trains, what harm and problems are they causing?
@saltashlad . If its so sad what the fuck are u on here looking at it for?..Doubt if you,d know where to start with driving a 50 or 55 in any case, you,ve probably only ever driven some shit bog unit with a couple of bus engines strapped underneath, so fuck off and GET A LIFE yourself tosser!!
@saltashlad I agree that it's bad driving, but don't knock the spotters - it's only a hobby.Just like some like to spend hours watching buffoons kick a ball about, or sit on a riverbank for hours, or surfing the internet looking at YouTube..........!!
As Deltics are always (or it's recommended to) opened up gently to avoid overloading, I suppose the 50 would have been doing most of the work from a standing start, with the Deltic gradually putting on the power.
@hughrobertwright The couplings are designed to deal with the load of 2000-ton freight trains and the haulage required to get them up hills. In the past at least it was possible to regularly see three locos working together on a freight.
A Deltic has a maximum tractive effort from rest, of 50000 lbs, a class 50's tractive effort is 48500 from a standing start. So even combined, their 98500 lbs of tractive effort would have been 15050 lbs short of a single class 59, 2 stroke, freight locomotive. The couplings had plenty in reserve.
unfortunately not, it was double headed with a class 50 plus a Deltic on the front. I think there has been a double headed Deltic hauled train though probably not in recent years on the main line, apart from in Microsoft Train Simulator where I created a passenger train hauled by five Deltics!
Hi Hugh, good vid. We had a chat about sound quality on pocket Sony cameras up the front vestibule. Take a look at my 40145 on the Lickey taken from the lineside for the surprisingly good quality without wind noise
The sound on this video is pretty good as the train was not travelling too fast, you can clearly hear the turbos on the 50 especially so when the driver closes the throttle near the end of the platform, the Deltic is barely audible above all the other noise! I intend adding more videos of The Autumn Highlander, there is one of the empty train pulled by 40145 leaving Kings Cross to view now.
Its Newcastle, its not bad driving just many drivers would not open her up till the last coaches are free of the platform, if i remember correctly there is a limit on that platform due to the camber most noise is the wheels in the curve of the track. That engine is not being opened right up even then its been taken to first notch on the excellerator then put to about a third as the train pulls off
moonmanas 4 months ago
it was only the deltic under power. they were not fitted wih multiple working cables
meadstuart 9 months ago
@meadstuart both locos WERE working, listen to the first 10 seconds the Deltic revs up and shortly afterwards the 50, you can also see the exhaust plume from both, after approx 40 seconds the 50 eases off and you can hear the turbos spooling down. The drivers normally signal to each other if the locomotives are not connected for multiple working
hughrobertwright 9 months ago
@meadstuart Just because the deltic isn't fitted with MU cables doesn't mean the 50 can't provide power it just means that both loco's need to be crewed who will keeping in contact with each other in some way it's called working in tandem.
tgm9991 7 months ago
What a monster! Just listen to those turbos
strange6 1 year ago
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The Locos have a lot of power. But it's only the Engine what ist powerful. The transition, the electroengine also is weak ^^ you feel nothing from the Power of the Mainengine.. Our Locos in Germany have less Horspower, but they are faster anyway + they have a lot higher Acceleration ^.^ Our Diesel-locos need just 2000HP..
Elfin1988 1 year ago
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Elfin1988 1 year ago
that is one hell of a railtour with some pretty rare traction :) nice vid
Gaz5100 1 year ago
excellent!
itfcsam 1 year ago
I'm Must Be Getting OLD, Gone are The Days of Raw Power, GIVES ME GOOSE BUMPS.
eeewee69 1 year ago
What station is this, I don't recognise it?
Anyway nice filming and very good
thexfactor331 2 years ago
this was at York heading south to London
hughrobertwright 2 years ago
@hughrobertwright newcastle der brain
globalcentralline 1 year ago
@hughrobertwright oh yeah
thexfactor331 1 year ago
@hughrobertwright This is Newcastle as it says in the descrption.
cawky22 1 year ago
@hughrobertwright No it's not it's Newcastle by the bridge. hills and houses on a south departure.
MrCagivaman 1 year ago
@thexfactor331 Call me old-fashioned, but I tend to find important clues about the videos I'm watching on YT in the description...It's Newcastle.
Wikkus 1 year ago
There is 9900 HP in this lot. See video response.
Us colonials seem to appreciate massive diesels hauling heavy trains. These locos originally came from Victoria and were one of their top range locos. Sorry, very Yankee design but built locally.
Reputation of being very noisy. Thisloaded coal train really pushed them on a very long 1 in 44 grade on outskirts of Sydney.
Hope appreciate. My father came from Swindon, so I must have inherited the train lore from him.
PROFLOP1 2 years ago
Hey you guy's, my apologies on behalf of Saltashlad, Im a train driver, I have been for 23 years, I for one do not AGREE whatsoever with the above named, Train spotters, Rail enthusiasts I think your all great guy's and gall's, I've ALWAYS time for you, sadly, some of my college's are SAD idiots, but I would like to think, their in their own tiny minority!!
mruresm8 2 years ago 7
Woah!! That was a bit harsh! I thought train drivers were die hard train enthusiasts. It should be the case. If i was a train driver, i'd be a million percent passionate about the job unlike this guy but it's so hard to get into now. They only take the cream of the crop and they usually prefer graduates. Shame
Defn28 2 years ago 3
graduates to drive a train? really? I'm not disagreeing, just suprised, the wages are not what I'd want after 3-4 years at university. I don't know if I'd be passionate about the job, there are so few classes of loco around these days, only the intercity HST remains from the good old days and those have had the hearts ripped out of them
mrspivvy 2 years ago
he is just a jobsworth
THEHSTFAN 2 years ago 5
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At the end of the day you can post all your facts&figures out of a book..But I am a traindriver&thats crap driving..You sad spotters need2get a life...When us drivers see you at wk-ends we think your all a bunch of sad twats..GET A LIFE...
saltashlad 2 years ago
jesus man, what is your problem?
im no anorack or nothing, and i just happened to be here by chance but don't you think you're being a bit harsh? So what if people like to look at trains, what harm and problems are they causing?
Think you need to get a life sann
stuntcrazy8 2 years ago
He is also a sad DMU driver.......
GRIDMASTER6 2 years ago
Oh, he's a train driver, all right.
Of a Thomas the Tank Engine pull-along set.
AndreiTupolev 2 years ago
@saltashlad . If its so sad what the fuck are u on here looking at it for?..Doubt if you,d know where to start with driving a 50 or 55 in any case, you,ve probably only ever driven some shit bog unit with a couple of bus engines strapped underneath, so fuck off and GET A LIFE yourself tosser!!
magicmaybach 1 year ago
@saltashlad I agree that it's bad driving, but don't knock the spotters - it's only a hobby.Just like some like to spend hours watching buffoons kick a ball about, or sit on a riverbank for hours, or surfing the internet looking at YouTube..........!!
emsee1 1 year ago
Good vid Mush
paulwmids 3 years ago
niiiiiiiice.... cheers ;-)
heyrodders 3 years ago
memories
keiko909 3 years ago
HELLFIRE!
mststv 3 years ago
As Deltics are always (or it's recommended to) opened up gently to avoid overloading, I suppose the 50 would have been doing most of the work from a standing start, with the Deltic gradually putting on the power.
AndreiTupolev 3 years ago 2
i'm surorised that it didn't snap the couplings
fergfergferg123 3 years ago
I suppose the couplings are designed to withstand an amount of overload...
hughrobertwright 3 years ago
@hughrobertwright The couplings are designed to deal with the load of 2000-ton freight trains and the haulage required to get them up hills. In the past at least it was possible to regularly see three locos working together on a freight.
Kromaatikse 6 months ago
A Deltic has a maximum tractive effort from rest, of 50000 lbs, a class 50's tractive effort is 48500 from a standing start. So even combined, their 98500 lbs of tractive effort would have been 15050 lbs short of a single class 59, 2 stroke, freight locomotive. The couplings had plenty in reserve.
hiyadroogs 3 years ago
Zontar hates this sort of thing...
Yownanymous 3 years ago
I would have expected Zontar to like seeing his engines on a mainline train even if there are other classes aswell....
hughrobertwright 3 years ago
A double headed Deltic,never thought id see the day!
RailwayFreak071 3 years ago
unfortunately not, it was double headed with a class 50 plus a Deltic on the front. I think there has been a double headed Deltic hauled train though probably not in recent years on the main line, apart from in Microsoft Train Simulator where I created a passenger train hauled by five Deltics!
hughrobertwright 3 years ago
RAW BRITISH POWER!!!!!!!
eeewee69 3 years ago
nice, i missed this year i went to morpeth to see it and it was 5 mins early i was gutted
Owentheguitarist666 4 years ago
Hi Hugh, good vid. We had a chat about sound quality on pocket Sony cameras up the front vestibule. Take a look at my 40145 on the Lickey taken from the lineside for the surprisingly good quality without wind noise
40079 4 years ago
The sound on this video is pretty good as the train was not travelling too fast, you can clearly hear the turbos on the 50 especially so when the driver closes the throttle near the end of the platform, the Deltic is barely audible above all the other noise! I intend adding more videos of The Autumn Highlander, there is one of the empty train pulled by 40145 leaving Kings Cross to view now.
hughrobertwright 4 years ago