And also for 20 dollars i could get sumone to harm another person for me, i could get sumone to steal for me, i could get sumone to suck my dick for 20 dollars so just imagine wat ppl would do for TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars.
What blows my mind as well is the fact that the days before 911 2.3TRILLION dollars disappeared from govt. spending w/out a trace investigations were set to start on september 11th but guess what all evidence was in the twin towers, tower 7, an the ONE side of the pentagon that was hit. An for all the ignorant sheep by using science and physics it is a FACT that what happened on 911 is nothing like the govt. said.
How come George Bush didn't plan a conspiracy in Iraq then (say, bury WMDs) so that his administration didn't look like absolute asses? He's smart enough to pull off this "inside job" but can't even make Colin Powell look good in front of the UN.
the margin of error alone would dwarf the chance of those coordinated events from occuring. statistically not possibly people - 9/11 was not a conspiracy - Apologies if this offends anyone but its my opinion..
USA Foreign policy treats other countries like their puppets. it is not surprising they were attacked in this way. 9/11 was not a consipiracy. the planes were hijacked - the planes hit the buildings - the buildings came down. the hijackers were not US agents. they were real people who hated USA and ISRAEL for good reason. their children, families killed, houses demolished. they wanted revenge.
the P Value that coordinated events resulted in a consipiracy of this size is unquantifiable.
history repeats itself... 2000 years ago emperor Nero burned Rome. Nero organized a relief effort, which he paid for from his own funds.Nero opened his palaces to provide shelter for the homeless, and arranged for food supplies to be delivered in order to prevent starvation among the survivors. In the wake of the fire, he made a new urban development plan.Nero also built a new palace complex in an area cleared by the fire.To diffuse blame, Nero targeted the Christians...
You can have all the proof you want....Hell, there is more than enough of it. It will never make any difference. Its like going to a burglar and complaining to him that you have been burgled.
It's just so sad. 9/11 is such an obvious hose job, but people will not accept a truth that runs so contrary to their fictitious world view. They will accept any other explanation, no matter how ridiculous, than face this traumatizing fact.
I wonder if all of civilization was enabled by these rose-colored lenses built in to the ordinary human psyche.
To fight for and defend the truth is to be ostracized, ridiculed, and often lonely. I can see the allure of the blue pill. But it's just so sad.
@alyssaxlouise 9/11 is a lie. An inside job. I recommend you go to ae911truth (dot) org and see how many thousands of architects and engineers have signed on to the truth movement, done their own independent studies and found all the proof any rational human mind could need and much, much more. The only people that still cling to the official story are the ignorant and the deluded who cannot psychologically afford to accept this ugly reality.
@jwallbanger "Thousands". Over 2 million architects and engineers are in the US alone. If "thousands" have signed, that means 99.999% of architects and engineers are NOT agreeing with them. Wouldn't that make it a consensus?
"If "thousands" have signed, that means 99.999% of architects and engineers are NOT agreeing with them."
Uh, no....that would mean the rest either don't know about their cause, agree but don't want to put their name on something controversial, don't care OR disagree. Your logic sucks and I don't think you know what consensus means either.
That many highly qualified and educated professionals working to prove the official story false is very significant.
@jwallbanger They don't know? The WTC attack and collapse are one of the most studied architectural failures ever. You're right, there will always be qualified people who disagree with the vast, vast majority, but then again, there will always be one or two historians who feel the Holocaust never happened.
@jwallbanger Not one person involved with controlled demolition in the US agrees with the truth movement that this looked like a typical controlled demolition. I take the word of experts here.
@jwallbanger The fact that no controlled demolition expert in the entire country has come out against this, saying it DID look like a controlled demolition. Again, don't take my word, take the word of the experts. Google "World Trade Center Building 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement" a paper by Mark Roberts which contains many quotes by demolition expert Brent Blanchard that debunks anything related to controlled demolition on 9/11.
@brassbonanza97 There's that shitty imitation of logic again. The fact that you have not heard of any american demolition expert speaking against this does not mean "Not one person involved with controlled demolition in the US agrees with the truth movement. "
It's really hard to take you seriously when you make such wild exaggerations. I know of at least demo expert who on video confirmed building 7 was controlled demo. Buildings do not fall down that easily, not from fire.
@jwallbanger What is that demo experts name? Did you Google the evidence I presented? I won't be surprised if you didn't, as most twoofers don't read evidence that contradicts their opinions.
@brassbonanza97 No it was in Loose Change or one of the other mainstream documentaries. I believe it was Loose Change, but I will confirm and let you know on that.
@brassbonanza97 Danny Jowenko, that's the demo expert's name that confirmed building 7 was controlled demo. You can find the video of his testimony here on youtube.
And as far as me googling your little reference, have you checked out ae911truth (dot) org? have you watched their videos?
quid pro quo buddy. I already jumped through a hoop and confirmed the demo expert for you. Your turn.
@jwallbanger Jowenko was Dutch. I wanted a US demo expert who was more familiar with our country's protocols in that field. Yes, I've dealt with A&E for 9/11 Truth, but like I said, it's a very small minority in the country who agree with this. A&E for 9/11 Truth like to talk mostly about how it's a controlled demolition; but they're not experts in demo. I also can't take anything appearing in Loose Change seriously since they twist words of everybody (see: Barry Jennings, Jamie McIntyre, etc.)
@brassbonanza97 SO you really believe a controlled demo expert in another country isn't qualified to say what's CD and what isn't? You think it's that different? You're reaching, pal, looking for any possible way to defend your point of view. Have you tried to be open minded about it at all? I've considered both sides and the evidence is in favor of the truthers. We're not a tiny minority. About a third of the population believes Al Quaeda had nothing to do with 9-11.
@jwallbanger I've kept a very open mind. I've seen a bunch of conspiracy movies and I believed them UNTIL I did my own research and came to the conclusion that you can't take little anomalies and point to them as evidence that it's a conspiracy. Have you read any of Mark Robert's work?
@brassbonanza97 Oh, and there's your crap imitation logic again. Loose change's obvious bias does not in any way discredit Jowenko's testimonly. He is still a credible expert in the CD field.
The NY Times makes dozens of mistakes every week. Does that mean the entire paper is lies?
Your type of juvenile, ridiculously flawed reasoning is typical of deniers. That's why most of you aren't even worth talking to. It's like showing a dog a card trick. Pointless.
@brassbonanza97 I know they're not experts in demo, but they ARE EXPERTS in how buildings are constructed and what can possibly make them fall down (and what's can't.)
I challenge you to find a single other example where fire caused a building to fall perfectly straight down, near freefall speed, nearly into it's own footprint. When buildings fall down by causes other than CD they fall sideways, or piece by piece slowly. Only CD can cause all supports to give out at once.
@jwallbanger Likewise, I challenge you to find a single example where a Boeing 767 crashed into a building and it didn't collapse. What happened that day was unique and something nobody had ever seen before. Of course there's going to be some things that can't be explained perfectly.
@brassbonanza97 I wasn't talking about the twin towers. The Achilles' Heel of the official story is building 7, and that one came down exactly like the other two but no plane hit it. All it had was some exterior damage and some small, oxygen starved fires. It came down near freefall speed into it's own footprint, perfectly. That is no minor anomaly, that is a HUGE glaring hole in the official theory. Find one other building that EVER did that from fire. There aren't any.
@jwallbanger Well, you're wrong on a few things. Firefighters report fires on almost every single floor and the building was titled due to a ton of debris from WTC1 hitting it during it's collapse. The firefighters knew it was coming down due to it's titling and the fires. At 3:30 PM, FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro made the decision to halt operations, knowing it would collapse and wishing to prevent further loss of firefighter life. A full two hours before it actually collapsed.
@brassbonanza97 If it was tilted, why did it come straight down? Buildings have multiple supports. All would have to give simultaneously for building 7 to come down the way it did. Simple physics. In a natural collapse the weak point would be the area it fell toward, like a tree with a wedge cut out. The way it came down perfectly straight at near freefall is not possible w/o CD. Firefighters also heard explosions, lots of them, and some FF's have been coerced into silence too.
@jwallbanger I'm not going to pretend I know structural engineering like most twoofers do, but I do know that on an airing of the Opie & Anthony show, a retired FDNY firefighter who was at the scene stated that the building was titled. ( watch?v=Kuu5m6-blIE ) Stars around the 4:45 mark. I'm sure they heard explosions, too! Lots of combustable material inside the buildings, plus, some of those FF quotes were taken out of context; they were talking about people hitting the ground from jumping.
@brassbonanza97 Lots and lots of firefighters and civilians describing in detail hearing explosions. There's no way they could be talking about anything else in almost every quote I heard. A security guard who saw a man on a lower floor walk away from a blast with skin hanging off his arms. Explosions heard by too many people to be false. I just feel like you're trying very hard to ignore the evidence. People who have a certain world view will ignore evidence that threatens it.
@jwallbanger I'm trying hard to avoid evidence, yet you didn't even address the fact that I posted a link where a FDNY firefighter talks on the issue. Funny how that works.
@brassbonanza97 I've already heard people talk about the building being "tilted," "bowing" and "unstable," that isn't new to me. Though opposing evidence may exist, the argument I countered with presumes you correct about that. So I don't know what you're all miffed about.
Again, the building being tilted does not explain how it suddenly came apart and fell into a neat little pile. That's like a tree leaning toward it's ax cut, then falling straight down into a pile of cord wood.
@jwallbanger On the contrar, it actually did not fall into a "neat little plie". WTC 7 completely ravaged 30 West Broadway to the north, which needed to be demolished due to the damage it caused and fell all over Barclay Street. A controlled-demolition is done to minimize damage to the surrounding area. This, however, was a lot of damage.
@brassbonanza97 i think you know what i meant, you just needed a hair to split. if it had fallen naturally there would have been resistance on the way down, giant chunks of building left. it would have fallen any direction but straight down. it behaved like a typical cd coming straight down into a pile of rubble. all joints had to have broken simultaneously for it to come down that fast with so little resistance. only cd can make a building come apart so completely so fast.
@jwallbanger Absolutely not. Thanks to how uniquely designed the building was, it came down as expected. If it was in fact a controlled demolition, then how did the FDNY know that it would collapse, more than two hours before it happened? Were they in on it?
@brassbonanza97 Oh and, architects and engineers ARE experts. They build the damn things they should know they don't fall down suddenly in perfect form from a little fire and exterior damage.
im a "9/11 Truth" believer myself....but regardless....youre never going to come to an agreement with the entire united states on something that happened over a decade ago. yaaaay, a couple more people think that 9/11 was a lie, but what the hell else do you really expect to happen? how bout we focus on more pressing PRESENT day crisises such as the economy and the wall street crooks that fucked your lives up.
....waaaaait. that would be more productive. i forgot, we're stuck in the past.
@bzadguy2317 The more people that we can get to believe in the truth, the more we can gather as a whole in order to force the gov't to finally release the information that is required to show the rest of the world the truth. We cannot move forward until we understand the past. Until the world knows and understands the truth as it is, and not what our gov't tell them, then we can't even hope to move towards a better future. This will continue to happen unless someone steps up and says "Enough!"
• A petition to launch a real, public, subpoena-empowered, criminal investigation of the events of Sept. 11, 2001 is on the White House website. 5,000 signatures needed by 28 October 2011. Please go & sign that petition, & tell all your friends who care about the truth of 9/11. Spread it wide & quick across the Internet. We need a new fully independent commission to investigate this horrified tragedy.
@plau0088 If the truth were uncovered, I think it would damage the country more than help it, I truly believe that 9/11 was an inside job done by the greed of phew people. but people would go crazy if it were ever accepted.
BILLIONS of dollars for wars in afghanistan and iraq , which they borrow from the federal reserve ,with interest and the passage of the patriot act which which bypasses our constitution by giving them the power to legally suspend our civil liberties guaranteed by the constitution, oil, bases surrounding iran (iraq and afghanistan) in preparation to invade them for even more oil, profits all around. 4000 lives in return for trillions of dollars in profits, thats like $1billion+/ life
@DanaBruneau To fucking manipulate us. We lost so many rights because of this, they're whole master plan in the end is to control every aspect of out life's. They question white american families in airports as if they were brown skinned Muslims.
@DanaBruneau most people who don't believe this is true know nothing about politics and trust there leaders best to ask questions and see if there wrong there say baaaaaaaaaaaa like a coward yellow inside sheep
Then that means there will be something in the New Madrid Fault area. FEMA has been conducting emergency exercises since April, 2011 with command posts in 8 states incorporating 1M of civilians for medical, police force, communications, etc. and have been preparing for 2 years for exercise commencement. I was truly concerned when we had unprecedented flooding throughout the Mississippi Valley. Levees pushed to the brink of failing and nuclear plants lining the zone. Denver = New US capitol
@abwolf1 there are probably some earthquakes being expected for new madrid because the fault zone there has been acting up a little. maybe thats why FEMA has been doing what you say they have been doing. Hope this helps.
@fotisdimakis You weren't there. So how do you know?! If you were there, and felt the plane crash, and the building crumble, you would know this is real.
Honestly. There is too much evidence against the 9/11 myth. There isn't any counter-arguements on the subject. What can you say against this? What can be said to fight what this is showing? I think nothing. If you have this much evidence, I don't think there can be a response to cover it up. Has to be true.
9/11 truth critics have nothing but ad hominem arguments. 9/11 Truth wasn't created by 'crazy conspiracy theorists,' but by professional architects & engineers, designers of steel high rise bldgs, distinguished scientists (Niels Harrit & physicist Steven Jones) by US Air Force & commercial pilots, by firefighters in the towers that day (gag order) & members of 9/11 families.
Faith in the official story is ultimately based on one thing: fear of the consequences should it be proven false.
9/11 truth critics have nothing but ad hominem arguments. 9/11 Truth wasn't created by 'crazy conspiracy theorists,' but by professional architects & engineers, designers of steel high rise bldgs, distinguished scientists (Niels Harrit & physicist Steven Jones) by US Air Force & commercial pilots, by firefighters in the towers that day (gag order) & members of 9/11 families.
Faith in the official story is ultimately based on one thing: fear of the consequences should it be proven false.
you lot havent got a fucking clue, this is all bollocks. You really think everyone who is part of Bush's government and in the know of this 'inside job' would want to blow up the world trade center towers and kill other americans? Bush the terrorist? hahahaha
Just so conservatives dont take it to heart, i dont think bush did it, cuz he isnt that smart, hes just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cellphone.
@VacantVanityVideos So what your saying is, that if someone was framed for a murder and u knew he/she was being framed, u wouldnt care? Because the murdered is still dead? U wouldnt want the real murderer to take responsibility for his crimes? U make me sick.....
@DerWahrheitssager U can find all the videos of TZM at zeitgeistmovie[dot]com Just follow the 'watch online' link. They are all posted on vimeo. This from Zeitgeist: The Movie i believe.
why is every one blaming bush? if it was our government, i would think there was more poeple involved, and clever too. I would think bush was just a puppet
@VacantVanityVideos there is a big difference between a terrorist attack from an outside body, and one from a countries government.. how can you not see that?
I had just wrote a comment about the drills being ran by the US and England at the same time of the attacks.I knew that I heard that before I just could not remember where.I put the comment on the second video I think.lmao
You have to admit that George was the most unbelievable liar that it is almost comical if he did not cause so much unneeded death.Omg if he can happen to us then Palin could too!That is a scary thought too.What has happened to our world!!!
the thing that gets me ,is that they run terror drills the same days on 9-11 and 7-7-05 ?the same targets and the same time?and they were doing this stuff back in 93 and 94 this 2011 you would think we should be seeing a pattern and no one is noticing wtf ppl
lol u guys r all retards dont waste your time theres a vidio of the pentagon sucuirity cam and it shows a plane crashing into the pentagon.so y did the vidio say theres was no evidence of a plane crashing in to the pentagon let-alone its on fucking youtube type in "sucuirity cam pentagon"and it will come up click it and skip to 1:20 and theres your proof that this was not a set up it was the damn a rabs with there sick twisted minds
@hunterglines by taking a look in your spelling your a retard yourself ........first learn to type properly and also spell out words before you comment on delicate stuff like this.......if you believe that Americas government is not corrupt ...you better stick your head out of you ASS!!!............:) TAKE CARE AND GOD LOVES YOU....PS OUR GOVERNMENT IS EVIL AND YOU DAM WELL KNOW IT ...........
LOL! I think that American government is corrupt, but it was funny to read "stick your head out of your ASS!!!", then "take care and god loves you" ^^
everything that happens is on a timeline it isn't a random event. why is 9 11 the numbers so significant, 9-11 is a state of emergency, *911 is an emergency phone call, school is now in session
Also, someone mentioned on one of these that there were only two phone calls made from the planes, but that's not true. There were many. Irrespective of the calls, if the crashes at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania were faked then what happened to the real planes with the passengers? Where did they go?
I think our country is going to undergo serious permanent change, possibly WW3, a coup, rapid succession of states, another civil war, or a Constitutional Convention. Our leaders are greedy, morally corrupt, and "play stupid happy" while many us foolishly look on and still think it's the good ol' USA. What is the point of electing leaders to basically feed their own selfish interests or a corporation they probably have a secret investment with. God will stop blessing America.
I alway wonder about one thing: You would have to have hundreds of technicians and engineneers to do a controlled underground operation of this magnitude - it is close to impossible that there is not a leak of information of some sort. Know what I'm saying?
One thing that "elite" forgets is that people them self forget. Even if you tell the same thing over and over again people will forget. But the next big question is what is next. Terorr is over, What is next big hit. What is the next big lie. Drugcompany and so called bird flue and swine flue was not succesfull, Even food control is not succesfull. People will not fall again.
@PanteraBoy989 gotta give u that man... taxpayers are making all THAT happen.. WE ARE... they don't have the power. we GIVE them the power.. '' this shit gott to go ''
@chunny101 Bush is a front for the more sinister powers of the world like it says later the bankers in particular, everything is a front, nothing is true
the usa......number 1 terrorists in the world.
daddylister 16 hours ago
And also for 20 dollars i could get sumone to harm another person for me, i could get sumone to steal for me, i could get sumone to suck my dick for 20 dollars so just imagine wat ppl would do for TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars.
NASkeywest 4 days ago
What blows my mind as well is the fact that the days before 911 2.3TRILLION dollars disappeared from govt. spending w/out a trace investigations were set to start on september 11th but guess what all evidence was in the twin towers, tower 7, an the ONE side of the pentagon that was hit. An for all the ignorant sheep by using science and physics it is a FACT that what happened on 911 is nothing like the govt. said.
NASkeywest 4 days ago
How come George Bush didn't plan a conspiracy in Iraq then (say, bury WMDs) so that his administration didn't look like absolute asses? He's smart enough to pull off this "inside job" but can't even make Colin Powell look good in front of the UN.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
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the margin of error alone would dwarf the chance of those coordinated events from occuring. statistically not possibly people - 9/11 was not a conspiracy - Apologies if this offends anyone but its my opinion..
ClareTractor05 1 month ago
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USA Foreign policy treats other countries like their puppets. it is not surprising they were attacked in this way. 9/11 was not a consipiracy. the planes were hijacked - the planes hit the buildings - the buildings came down. the hijackers were not US agents. they were real people who hated USA and ISRAEL for good reason. their children, families killed, houses demolished. they wanted revenge.
the P Value that coordinated events resulted in a consipiracy of this size is unquantifiable.
ClareTractor05 1 month ago
i cant believe how we have been sucked in by government propaganda
eminemdrehybrid 1 month ago
history repeats itself... 2000 years ago emperor Nero burned Rome. Nero organized a relief effort, which he paid for from his own funds.Nero opened his palaces to provide shelter for the homeless, and arranged for food supplies to be delivered in order to prevent starvation among the survivors. In the wake of the fire, he made a new urban development plan.Nero also built a new palace complex in an area cleared by the fire.To diffuse blame, Nero targeted the Christians...
bimbo777777 1 month ago
Why would the 9/11 Commission Report mention Building 7? It wasn't an engineering report.
brassbonanza97 1 month ago
Even I don´t want to believe that this was a inside job.. Evidences are overwhelming
Sturmkommando2 1 month ago
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You can have all the proof you want....Hell, there is more than enough of it. It will never make any difference. Its like going to a burglar and complaining to him that you have been burgled.
snatchviper 3 months ago
It's just so sad. 9/11 is such an obvious hose job, but people will not accept a truth that runs so contrary to their fictitious world view. They will accept any other explanation, no matter how ridiculous, than face this traumatizing fact.
I wonder if all of civilization was enabled by these rose-colored lenses built in to the ordinary human psyche.
To fight for and defend the truth is to be ostracized, ridiculed, and often lonely. I can see the allure of the blue pill. But it's just so sad.
jwallbanger 3 months ago 8
@jwallbanger you believe this shit?
alyssaxlouise 1 month ago
@alyssaxlouise you don't believe this shit?
jwallbanger 1 month ago
@jwallbanger No, I don't. I only watched this because I am writing a research paper on how controversial 9/11 is.
alyssaxlouise 1 month ago
@alyssaxlouise 9/11 is a lie. An inside job. I recommend you go to ae911truth (dot) org and see how many thousands of architects and engineers have signed on to the truth movement, done their own independent studies and found all the proof any rational human mind could need and much, much more. The only people that still cling to the official story are the ignorant and the deluded who cannot psychologically afford to accept this ugly reality.
It's time for us all to wake up.
jwallbanger 1 month ago
@jwallbanger I respect your opinion. I'm just telling you mine.
alyssaxlouise 1 month ago
@alyssaxlouise lol, it was just a joke, don't be so sensitive.
and i'm not a government hater, i'm a corruption hater and an ignorance hater.
jwallbanger 1 month ago
@jwallbanger "Thousands". Over 2 million architects and engineers are in the US alone. If "thousands" have signed, that means 99.999% of architects and engineers are NOT agreeing with them. Wouldn't that make it a consensus?
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97
"If "thousands" have signed, that means 99.999% of architects and engineers are NOT agreeing with them."
Uh, no....that would mean the rest either don't know about their cause, agree but don't want to put their name on something controversial, don't care OR disagree. Your logic sucks and I don't think you know what consensus means either.
That many highly qualified and educated professionals working to prove the official story false is very significant.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger They don't know? The WTC attack and collapse are one of the most studied architectural failures ever. You're right, there will always be qualified people who disagree with the vast, vast majority, but then again, there will always be one or two historians who feel the Holocaust never happened.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 Of course they know about 9/11. Duh. Try thinking a little harder before you post?
By "their cause" I obviously meant specifically the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth group. DUH.
And there's a pretty big difference between one or two historians and thousands of architects and engineers with piles of real evidence
Their studies have even caused die hard anti-truthers like Geraldo Rivera to flip sides.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Not one person involved with controlled demolition in the US agrees with the truth movement that this looked like a typical controlled demolition. I take the word of experts here.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 your sources?
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger The fact that no controlled demolition expert in the entire country has come out against this, saying it DID look like a controlled demolition. Again, don't take my word, take the word of the experts. Google "World Trade Center Building 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement" a paper by Mark Roberts which contains many quotes by demolition expert Brent Blanchard that debunks anything related to controlled demolition on 9/11.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 There's that shitty imitation of logic again. The fact that you have not heard of any american demolition expert speaking against this does not mean "Not one person involved with controlled demolition in the US agrees with the truth movement. "
It's really hard to take you seriously when you make such wild exaggerations. I know of at least demo expert who on video confirmed building 7 was controlled demo. Buildings do not fall down that easily, not from fire.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger What is that demo experts name? Did you Google the evidence I presented? I won't be surprised if you didn't, as most twoofers don't read evidence that contradicts their opinions.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 No it was in Loose Change or one of the other mainstream documentaries. I believe it was Loose Change, but I will confirm and let you know on that.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 Danny Jowenko, that's the demo expert's name that confirmed building 7 was controlled demo. You can find the video of his testimony here on youtube.
And as far as me googling your little reference, have you checked out ae911truth (dot) org? have you watched their videos?
quid pro quo buddy. I already jumped through a hoop and confirmed the demo expert for you. Your turn.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Jowenko was Dutch. I wanted a US demo expert who was more familiar with our country's protocols in that field. Yes, I've dealt with A&E for 9/11 Truth, but like I said, it's a very small minority in the country who agree with this. A&E for 9/11 Truth like to talk mostly about how it's a controlled demolition; but they're not experts in demo. I also can't take anything appearing in Loose Change seriously since they twist words of everybody (see: Barry Jennings, Jamie McIntyre, etc.)
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 SO you really believe a controlled demo expert in another country isn't qualified to say what's CD and what isn't? You think it's that different? You're reaching, pal, looking for any possible way to defend your point of view. Have you tried to be open minded about it at all? I've considered both sides and the evidence is in favor of the truthers. We're not a tiny minority. About a third of the population believes Al Quaeda had nothing to do with 9-11.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger I've kept a very open mind. I've seen a bunch of conspiracy movies and I believed them UNTIL I did my own research and came to the conclusion that you can't take little anomalies and point to them as evidence that it's a conspiracy. Have you read any of Mark Robert's work?
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 Oh, and there's your crap imitation logic again. Loose change's obvious bias does not in any way discredit Jowenko's testimonly. He is still a credible expert in the CD field.
The NY Times makes dozens of mistakes every week. Does that mean the entire paper is lies?
Your type of juvenile, ridiculously flawed reasoning is typical of deniers. That's why most of you aren't even worth talking to. It's like showing a dog a card trick. Pointless.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 I know they're not experts in demo, but they ARE EXPERTS in how buildings are constructed and what can possibly make them fall down (and what's can't.)
I challenge you to find a single other example where fire caused a building to fall perfectly straight down, near freefall speed, nearly into it's own footprint. When buildings fall down by causes other than CD they fall sideways, or piece by piece slowly. Only CD can cause all supports to give out at once.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Likewise, I challenge you to find a single example where a Boeing 767 crashed into a building and it didn't collapse. What happened that day was unique and something nobody had ever seen before. Of course there's going to be some things that can't be explained perfectly.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 I wasn't talking about the twin towers. The Achilles' Heel of the official story is building 7, and that one came down exactly like the other two but no plane hit it. All it had was some exterior damage and some small, oxygen starved fires. It came down near freefall speed into it's own footprint, perfectly. That is no minor anomaly, that is a HUGE glaring hole in the official theory. Find one other building that EVER did that from fire. There aren't any.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Well, you're wrong on a few things. Firefighters report fires on almost every single floor and the building was titled due to a ton of debris from WTC1 hitting it during it's collapse. The firefighters knew it was coming down due to it's titling and the fires. At 3:30 PM, FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro made the decision to halt operations, knowing it would collapse and wishing to prevent further loss of firefighter life. A full two hours before it actually collapsed.
brassbonanza97 4 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 If it was tilted, why did it come straight down? Buildings have multiple supports. All would have to give simultaneously for building 7 to come down the way it did. Simple physics. In a natural collapse the weak point would be the area it fell toward, like a tree with a wedge cut out. The way it came down perfectly straight at near freefall is not possible w/o CD. Firefighters also heard explosions, lots of them, and some FF's have been coerced into silence too.
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
@jwallbanger I'm not going to pretend I know structural engineering like most twoofers do, but I do know that on an airing of the Opie & Anthony show, a retired FDNY firefighter who was at the scene stated that the building was titled. ( watch?v=Kuu5m6-blIE ) Stars around the 4:45 mark. I'm sure they heard explosions, too! Lots of combustable material inside the buildings, plus, some of those FF quotes were taken out of context; they were talking about people hitting the ground from jumping.
brassbonanza97 3 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 Lots and lots of firefighters and civilians describing in detail hearing explosions. There's no way they could be talking about anything else in almost every quote I heard. A security guard who saw a man on a lower floor walk away from a blast with skin hanging off his arms. Explosions heard by too many people to be false. I just feel like you're trying very hard to ignore the evidence. People who have a certain world view will ignore evidence that threatens it.
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
@jwallbanger I'm trying hard to avoid evidence, yet you didn't even address the fact that I posted a link where a FDNY firefighter talks on the issue. Funny how that works.
brassbonanza97 3 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 I've already heard people talk about the building being "tilted," "bowing" and "unstable," that isn't new to me. Though opposing evidence may exist, the argument I countered with presumes you correct about that. So I don't know what you're all miffed about.
Again, the building being tilted does not explain how it suddenly came apart and fell into a neat little pile. That's like a tree leaning toward it's ax cut, then falling straight down into a pile of cord wood.
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
@jwallbanger On the contrar, it actually did not fall into a "neat little plie". WTC 7 completely ravaged 30 West Broadway to the north, which needed to be demolished due to the damage it caused and fell all over Barclay Street. A controlled-demolition is done to minimize damage to the surrounding area. This, however, was a lot of damage.
brassbonanza97 3 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 i think you know what i meant, you just needed a hair to split. if it had fallen naturally there would have been resistance on the way down, giant chunks of building left. it would have fallen any direction but straight down. it behaved like a typical cd coming straight down into a pile of rubble. all joints had to have broken simultaneously for it to come down that fast with so little resistance. only cd can make a building come apart so completely so fast.
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Absolutely not. Thanks to how uniquely designed the building was, it came down as expected. If it was in fact a controlled demolition, then how did the FDNY know that it would collapse, more than two hours before it happened? Were they in on it?
brassbonanza97 3 weeks ago
@brassbonanza97 Oh and, architects and engineers ARE experts. They build the damn things they should know they don't fall down suddenly in perfect form from a little fire and exterior damage.
jwallbanger 4 weeks ago
im a "9/11 Truth" believer myself....but regardless....youre never going to come to an agreement with the entire united states on something that happened over a decade ago. yaaaay, a couple more people think that 9/11 was a lie, but what the hell else do you really expect to happen? how bout we focus on more pressing PRESENT day crisises such as the economy and the wall street crooks that fucked your lives up.
....waaaaait. that would be more productive. i forgot, we're stuck in the past.
bzadguy2317 3 months ago
@bzadguy2317 The more people that we can get to believe in the truth, the more we can gather as a whole in order to force the gov't to finally release the information that is required to show the rest of the world the truth. We cannot move forward until we understand the past. Until the world knows and understands the truth as it is, and not what our gov't tell them, then we can't even hope to move towards a better future. This will continue to happen unless someone steps up and says "Enough!"
TheZeroRising 2 months ago 3
I'd give my left nut to see Bush and his cronies in leg irons at Gitmo.
Snoep76239 3 months ago
• A petition to launch a real, public, subpoena-empowered, criminal investigation of the events of Sept. 11, 2001 is on the White House website. 5,000 signatures needed by 28 October 2011. Please go & sign that petition, & tell all your friends who care about the truth of 9/11. Spread it wide & quick across the Internet. We need a new fully independent commission to investigate this horrified tragedy.
plau0088 4 months ago
@plau0088 If the truth were uncovered, I think it would damage the country more than help it, I truly believe that 9/11 was an inside job done by the greed of phew people. but people would go crazy if it were ever accepted.
carsonvaler 3 months ago
Bush was too stupid to plan it. Dick and Donald's Rumsfeld were the masterminds behind it. bush new about it just the figure head.
Nickthebeartv 4 months ago
BILLIONS of dollars for wars in afghanistan and iraq , which they borrow from the federal reserve ,with interest and the passage of the patriot act which which bypasses our constitution by giving them the power to legally suspend our civil liberties guaranteed by the constitution, oil, bases surrounding iran (iraq and afghanistan) in preparation to invade them for even more oil, profits all around. 4000 lives in return for trillions of dollars in profits, thats like $1billion+/ life
teknaleji100 4 months ago
bullshit. and the only people who ever believe this stuff know close to nothing about politics.
DanaBruneau 4 months ago
@DanaBruneau To fucking manipulate us. We lost so many rights because of this, they're whole master plan in the end is to control every aspect of out life's. They question white american families in airports as if they were brown skinned Muslims.
Nickthebeartv 4 months ago 2
@DanaBruneau most people who don't believe this is true know nothing about politics and trust there leaders best to ask questions and see if there wrong there say baaaaaaaaaaaa like a coward yellow inside sheep
V1nn1ePJ 4 months ago 2
Then that means there will be something in the New Madrid Fault area. FEMA has been conducting emergency exercises since April, 2011 with command posts in 8 states incorporating 1M of civilians for medical, police force, communications, etc. and have been preparing for 2 years for exercise commencement. I was truly concerned when we had unprecedented flooding throughout the Mississippi Valley. Levees pushed to the brink of failing and nuclear plants lining the zone. Denver = New US capitol
abwolf1 4 months ago
@abwolf1 there are probably some earthquakes being expected for new madrid because the fault zone there has been acting up a little. maybe thats why FEMA has been doing what you say they have been doing. Hope this helps.
TheSpokenWisdom 4 months ago
load of crap. how do they benefit from blowing up there own stuff? you cant.
legsforsale 4 months ago
bullshit..
fotisdimakis 5 months ago
@fotisdimakis You weren't there. So how do you know?! If you were there, and felt the plane crash, and the building crumble, you would know this is real.
ThatReallyQuietDude 5 months ago
Who is the man between 4:05 and 4:26?
miguelgilmaya 5 months ago
@miguelgilmaya rudy julianni. he was the mayor of ny on 911-01.
TheAngryarchangel 5 months ago
Even if you don't believe these theories, he is definitely lying that he's looking forward to speaking to the 911 commission.
Jakerado55 5 months ago
Lol at George W. Bush trying to speak smoothly. Hes a horrible liar. Can we please all agree on that?
Jakerado55 5 months ago 25
citation needed, where are these transcripts?
bloodriver3lol 5 months ago
Honestly. There is too much evidence against the 9/11 myth. There isn't any counter-arguements on the subject. What can you say against this? What can be said to fight what this is showing? I think nothing. If you have this much evidence, I don't think there can be a response to cover it up. Has to be true.
shapuzz 5 months ago
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9/11 truth critics have nothing but ad hominem arguments. 9/11 Truth wasn't created by 'crazy conspiracy theorists,' but by professional architects & engineers, designers of steel high rise bldgs, distinguished scientists (Niels Harrit & physicist Steven Jones) by US Air Force & commercial pilots, by firefighters in the towers that day (gag order) & members of 9/11 families.
Faith in the official story is ultimately based on one thing: fear of the consequences should it be proven false.
TheeUnidentified 5 months ago
9/11 truth critics have nothing but ad hominem arguments. 9/11 Truth wasn't created by 'crazy conspiracy theorists,' but by professional architects & engineers, designers of steel high rise bldgs, distinguished scientists (Niels Harrit & physicist Steven Jones) by US Air Force & commercial pilots, by firefighters in the towers that day (gag order) & members of 9/11 families.
Faith in the official story is ultimately based on one thing: fear of the consequences should it be proven false.
TheeUnidentified 5 months ago
@TheeUnidentified EXTREMELEY well said.........
jaydog7575 5 months ago
you lot havent got a fucking clue, this is all bollocks. You really think everyone who is part of Bush's government and in the know of this 'inside job' would want to blow up the world trade center towers and kill other americans? Bush the terrorist? hahahaha
MrHardingG 5 months ago
1:59 Fuckin Bush 8 years of embarrassment
Nxsmo 5 months ago
Just so conservatives dont take it to heart, i dont think bush did it, cuz he isnt that smart, hes just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cellphone.
liljuve13 5 months ago 2
LOL at the faces @1.57
mkddanchh 5 months ago
@mkddanchh lmao i know i commented the same thing just now before I realized you said it XD
Nxsmo 5 months ago
the CIA did it!!!!
ZILONGIZ 5 months ago
@VacantVanityVideos So what your saying is, that if someone was framed for a murder and u knew he/she was being framed, u wouldnt care? Because the murdered is still dead? U wouldnt want the real murderer to take responsibility for his crimes? U make me sick.....
AngryHumanoid 5 months ago
Hello, i wanted to look the last video. But both videos that are possible to see are not available in my country (germany) where else can i look it?
DerWahrheitssager 5 months ago
@DerWahrheitssager U can find all the videos of TZM at zeitgeistmovie[dot]com Just follow the 'watch online' link. They are all posted on vimeo. This from Zeitgeist: The Movie i believe.
Grub4r 5 months ago
I don't think Bush had anything to do with it. He was told after the fact and told to keep his mouth shut.
cbratcher42209 5 months ago
why is every one blaming bush? if it was our government, i would think there was more poeple involved, and clever too. I would think bush was just a puppet
stargirlsusan 5 months ago
I want to kill george bush.
SBMinjae 5 months ago
Why does it matter whether this was some kind of "conspiracy" or not? Either way, people died. Does it really matter how? You people disgust me.
VacantVanityVideos 5 months ago
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@VacantVanityVideos THANK YOU. jesus christ.
antiestablishment111 5 months ago
@VacantVanityVideos there is a big difference between a terrorist attack from an outside body, and one from a countries government.. how can you not see that?
LochSBMT 5 months ago
Bush is the fuck who did this. The idiot
jstforkicks22 5 months ago
I had just wrote a comment about the drills being ran by the US and England at the same time of the attacks.I knew that I heard that before I just could not remember where.I put the comment on the second video I think.lmao
chrismacciuss 5 months ago 2
You have to admit that George was the most unbelievable liar that it is almost comical if he did not cause so much unneeded death.Omg if he can happen to us then Palin could too!That is a scary thought too.What has happened to our world!!!
chrismacciuss 5 months ago
the thing that gets me ,is that they run terror drills the same days on 9-11 and 7-7-05 ?the same targets and the same time?and they were doing this stuff back in 93 and 94 this 2011 you would think we should be seeing a pattern and no one is noticing wtf ppl
sharababy87 5 months ago
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megamogx 5 months ago
This is propaganda
SinglerainbowHD 5 months ago
@SinglerainbowHD and youre stupid
kebabrullemums 5 months ago
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."
-Adolf Hitler
xcentrik12 5 months ago
This blew my mind.
LuxenBuxen 6 months ago
This blew my mind
LuxenBuxen 6 months ago
lol u guys r all retards dont waste your time theres a vidio of the pentagon sucuirity cam and it shows a plane crashing into the pentagon.so y did the vidio say theres was no evidence of a plane crashing in to the pentagon let-alone its on fucking youtube type in "sucuirity cam pentagon"and it will come up click it and skip to 1:20 and theres your proof that this was not a set up it was the damn a rabs with there sick twisted minds
hunterglines 6 months ago
@hunterglines by taking a look in your spelling your a retard yourself ........first learn to type properly and also spell out words before you comment on delicate stuff like this.......if you believe that Americas government is not corrupt ...you better stick your head out of you ASS!!!............:) TAKE CARE AND GOD LOVES YOU....PS OUR GOVERNMENT IS EVIL AND YOU DAM WELL KNOW IT ...........
devildirtstraker666 6 months ago
@devildirtstraker666
LOL! I think that American government is corrupt, but it was funny to read "stick your head out of your ASS!!!", then "take care and god loves you" ^^
Swordman85 5 months ago 2
everything that happens is on a timeline it isn't a random event. why is 9 11 the numbers so significant, 9-11 is a state of emergency, *911 is an emergency phone call, school is now in session
SamuraiHouse57 6 months ago
Where is part 4 of your 9/11 series?
Also, someone mentioned on one of these that there were only two phone calls made from the planes, but that's not true. There were many. Irrespective of the calls, if the crashes at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania were faked then what happened to the real planes with the passengers? Where did they go?
PlaygroundsWillLaugh 6 months ago
3:54-4:36 lol...
shadow12591 7 months ago
Americans are fuking idiots!
204manpreet 7 months ago
I think our country is going to undergo serious permanent change, possibly WW3, a coup, rapid succession of states, another civil war, or a Constitutional Convention. Our leaders are greedy, morally corrupt, and "play stupid happy" while many us foolishly look on and still think it's the good ol' USA. What is the point of electing leaders to basically feed their own selfish interests or a corporation they probably have a secret investment with. God will stop blessing America.
RayTech70 7 months ago 2
I alway wonder about one thing: You would have to have hundreds of technicians and engineneers to do a controlled underground operation of this magnitude - it is close to impossible that there is not a leak of information of some sort. Know what I'm saying?
lastannahme 7 months ago
EVIL TERRORIST !!!
Trip3331 8 months ago
One thing that "elite" forgets is that people them self forget. Even if you tell the same thing over and over again people will forget. But the next big question is what is next. Terorr is over, What is next big hit. What is the next big lie. Drugcompany and so called bird flue and swine flue was not succesfull, Even food control is not succesfull. People will not fall again.
lex588467 8 months ago
The American taxpayers paid for 9/11
PanteraBoy989 8 months ago 105
@PanteraBoy989 Man doesn't that just make you angry
Man4Goodwill 8 months ago
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TikiEverAk 6 months ago
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@PanteraBoy989 gotta give u that man... taxpayers are making all THAT happen.. WE ARE... they don't have the power. we GIVE them the power.. '' this shit gott to go ''
TikiEverAk 6 months ago
@PanteraBoy989 we paid for our recession/depression....
bengracia1 5 months ago
@PanteraBoy989 We'll be paying for 9/11 until world war 3. So basically, next year.
ThelnsomniacGamer 5 months ago
4:00 terrorism, apply directly to the forehead
phukifiy 10 months ago
oh man i can take shit out of context too.
highjumper16 11 months ago
BUSH IS THE TERRORIST
chunny101 1 year ago 143
@chunny101 Yes he is and he needs to be taken down 10 years of lies
Man4Goodwill 9 months ago
@chunny101 Bush is a front for the more sinister powers of the world like it says later the bankers in particular, everything is a front, nothing is true
BucketheadCleary 6 months ago
@chunny101 your stupid if you think that this started and ended with bush.
MrBereal351 6 months ago
i concur
tbizzle12345 1 year ago
internal cover up, bigtime!
nicandstacie 1 year ago