Astro Boy (1960's) Clip

[1Thunderfire]

This piece will be good for my film coursework on the bit about limited animation. Anime's come a long way since, huh?

[neomysterio]

is that tall one Atlas?

[CartoonPrincess15]

@neomysterio No he's Cobalt (Jetto in English). The 80's series was slightly changed from the 60's series and the manga. I think Atlas might have been a character, but he wasn't his brother. Jetto was never in the two color remakes.

[KittenofTwilight24]

OMG! It's Cobalt! There are so few episode's that I can find with him in it.

[BurashiP3]

oh wow, I didn't know Astro another sibling

[TheChoralChick]

@BurashiP3

That's Jetto -- see episode 84 -- he was Astro Boy's prototype who was discarded, but revived later.

[killb1994]

Cold someone translate me what's going on in this moment?

[bingobookninjaS]

Oh wow, this is amazingly old! So neat to see animation this far back...

[OriginalGagBonkers]

Did anyone see the CG movie of Astro Boy?

[tomrudd25]

The new one? Yeah, I've seen it twice. I love it.

[Dragonrider1227]

Loved it!

[OriginalGagBonkers]

Its a shame were not likely to get a second one, mainly because the first one tanked.

[Dragonrider1227]

Call me optimistic but it was number one in China and from what I hear is getting well received in Canada and Australia so anything's possible. But yes, if this doesn't get a sequel while Dragonball: Evolution does I will totally loose all faith in Hollywood

[OriginalGagBonkers]

I heard that the studio that made Astro boy is currently in development of a movie called "Gagaman"{or something like that}. So if the DVD sales of astro go through the roof we might be able to see it happen, I am still wondering if they are going to do a sequel of TMNT{2007}. I'm surprised that it hasnt happened yet.

[Dragonrider1227]

Yeah, I'm hoping the same thing. I'm surprised about TMNT not getting a sequel too. Last I heard, they're going to do another live action movie which makes no sense to me. I thought the Ninja Turtles worked much better in CGI

[OriginalGagBonkers]

From what I heard the live-action movie of TMNT would be different from the CG film. But we might be able to see another full blown CG Tmnt in the future, although Nick has bought the rights to TMNT.{Which I am kinda worried about since the anime of TMNT wasnt that good in my point of view}

[KittenofTwilight24]

I agree. It was to good not to get a sequel! My friend went to Japan right before the movie came out and she said Astro Boy was EVERYWERE!!

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 You shouldn't have faith in the American industry to handle something Japanese.

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui I would but after Godzilla, Speed Racer, and Dragonball, it's difficult. I DID like the Astro Boy movie once I saw it though

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 I know I would like at least a few aspects of it, but the overall knowledge that it's basically fake would ultimately destroy the experience for me. On top of the fact that they completely change the storyline and replace a lot of emotional stuff with mindless action, and add some emo whore love interest for the "badass AmeriKAN Astro Boy!"

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui none of that bothered me. I found plenty of emotion and heart in the movie. Yeah, they "Americanized" him a little, but he still comes off a lot more likable than he did in the 2004 anime dub. Not a single "Let's Rocket!" was uttered in the entire film. (Thank God) My only REAL issue with it was Nicolas Cage's Dr. Tenma sounded a little... flat and sometimes over the top

[Dragonrider1227]

@Dragonrider1227 Oh, and though it didn't do well in Japanese theaters, the few Japanese people I talked to who saw it said they liked it

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 Honestly, I don't doubt that for a bit. You really can't get any more obnoxious than Candi Milo's Astro. I'm still just mad that our industry got the rights to yet ANOTHER Japanese franchise...

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui No, I REALLY didn't like Candi Milo's Astro. Though I don't blame her. She just did what they paid her to do. I blame the suits that thought Astro needed to be more "hip."

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 Such a shame too, because her mere involvement caused me to slightly hate her. As with all the other well-known voice actors who were used (except the girl who played Tamao/Alejo).

Hip=American=Obnoxious

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui As an American myself I find that so sad yet so true. What got me was that shortly after they screwed up Astro's character and the show got canned, Avatar: The Last Airbender comes out and it featured a little boy who acted like a kind, and playful boy. Kinda like how Astro was originally in the anime and it was a big hit. So much for thinking American boys had to be "hip" huh? >>

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 Wow, I never even made that connection, but it's true! I find it funny that basically ALL anime is dubbed to appeal to young children, meanwhile American cartoons like Teen Titans with mind-rape plots (the episodes with Slade still scare me today, and I'm not 7 anymore. I still refuse to watch them) and crazy sexual tension aren't altered at all. Funny how the industry works, huh?

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui I know. It's so weird. Obviously, the people behind stuff like Teen Titans and Avatar probably feel the same way we do and are not the same people dubbing Astro Boy

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 Who did the 2003 dub anyway? I know it couldn't have been 4kids, because then all the black people would have ben edited out of it.

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui LOLWHUT? Anyway, I believe it was some company owned by Sony

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 srsly

they did it to One Piece.

Oh yeah, I should have remembered that. Hah, the only way America ever got rights to Astro Boy again after the NOW!Comics disaster is because Tezuka's dead.

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui But Funimation came and fixed it. Or so I've heard

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 Yeah, they did, but I remember watching it before knowing the company had changed, and I remember that I hated the new actors. Sanji's hit me especially hard. I honestly would have rather they either got all the original actors of didn't redub it at all.

[Dragonrider1227]

@UTAU53Yui I haven't heard any of the voice actors so I can't say but considering Funimation also includes the Japanese versions in their sets I wouldn't worry about who they got for the english versions

[UTAU53Yui]

@Dragonrider1227 True, true.

[stramayne]

@UTAU53Yui Obivoiusly you know a lot more about Astro Boy then I do. I am simply a fan of the original b/w cartoon. (As shown here in the US) I thought it was great. I don't think the mistakes made on later version were so much "American" as they were the prevailing "wisdom" of the day. It is hard to remake a classic. I think the 1980s version looks pretty good. Though I'm not too fond of the disco-like soundtrack.

[UTAU53Yui]

@stramayne You seem to be confusing dubbing with production itself...

[stramayne]

@UTAU53Yui Do you mean the music was differentt in the Japanese version or something? I thought of the disco music and slower pace of the 80s Astro Boy color program was something the producers had decided upon at the time. You know, like how Star Trek Next Generation was based more on feelingss and character, which was the 80s idea of enlightenment and sensitivity. I believe such thinking slowed the pace a bit and the less unique music cues made the action scens a triffle off kilter.

[UTAU53Yui]

@stramayne Yup, just as I thought. You don't understand the average anime dubbing process. In this series' case, much of the original footage, dialogue, and plot is changed/removed to the point where the product being released to American audiences differs greatly from that of the original, released in Japan. I'm not talking about the changes that the people who created the show itself decided to make, just the changes that other companies made to the finished product...

[stramayne]

@UTAU53Yui Please forgive my ignorance. I guess it's something like the Power Rangers where they use some one the original Japanese footage then kind of create their own version of the show around it. O well. All I know is I liked the Astro Boy I watched as a kid. I didn't know who made it or where it came from. I only know I like it still

[UTAU53Yui]

@stramayne It's alright, we all start out knowing nothing. And yeah, it's basically something like that, except less expensive (but also more expensive than if they'd just dubbed the show and broadcast it as-is). I still don't understand all the localization issues. Much of it is culture, but much is also... old people who aren't the target audience, and thus don't understand the target audience. At least that's the way I see it.

[blufighter1]

the other character is named Cobalt.

[LauraSeabrook]

Golly - I can remember watching this back in the sixties (though I DO love the 80s version)

[wireframe7]

astro boy & Uran i know, but who is the other character.

[supersayensonic]

Jetto, Astro's younger brother

[supersayensonic]

I mean Cobalt

[Masterdoomer]

Jetto

[CartoonPrincess15]

@wireframe7 Cobalt/Jetto

[hilarioph]

If i right astroboy was air on fuji tv

back in the mid 60's ?

[normalman37]

OMG its TOO CUTE. XD and I love it.

[PrincessKairi124]

YES I AGREE!!! But I have to question the fact that Uran is always showing her panties. That, I do not seem to grasp, but then again, I'm not a boy.

[Dragonrider1227]

At the time, it was considered more "cute" than anything else because back then, every little thing wasn't jumped on as "pedophilia"

[alexyomero76]

@Dragonrider1227 Agreed! The boy was cute, strong, clever, fancy and shirtless! and nobody had a dirty thought on him! It was a young sex-symbol superhero!

[LottLottie]

Thanks for posting this! It's so interesting to see the original stuff.

[Sasuke1117]

OMG that's funny.

[GeneralOlde]

Did anime start out as the result of a very low budget before eventually becoming an official style of animation?

[CyDaSnake]

Alot of it kinda was low budget and even now most animes continue to use budget cutting techniques such as flat close ups of characters faces where only his\her eyes and nose are visible aswell as splish splash here and there. Animes about the detail though, not FPS. See if you can find a 1930s\40s anime video on youtube (I've found a few) and you'll see what anime\Japanimation was TRULY like in its early days.

[kistrolco]

In Latin America, Astro Girl was callled "Astrita", something like "little astro girl". Although the animation may look a bit old-fashioned, the original story was much better.

[ilikesakura2005]

I like it but the animation isn't very good. But it's from the 60s so it's expected.

[sluimers]

double post again? My post doesn't show up :S

[sluimers]

Woohoo! I found it! The oldest anime pantsu shot.

[Inkan1969]

Uran did have nice panties. :-)

[HyperSonicSquall]

i find it mildly disturbing that there were so many panty shots of Uran since she's a little girl, and a robot...

[Inkan1969]

Maybe it disturbs you....:-)

[normalman37]

dude, its not a panty, it's a BALL!

[HypercatZ]

the 80 ones is even more little.

[alexyomero76]

@HyperSonicSquall It distrubs ur politically correct, malicious , evil searching mind of today!

[pofrani]

@HyperSonicSquall

it's because people then were'n't pedophiles!

[HyperSonicSquall]

@pofrani Don't kid yourself.

And Astro Boy is loaded with unintentional, though funny pedophiliac imagery. At least in his manga that was mostly true

[pofrani]

@HyperSonicSquall

yes but ever thought that maybe in the 60's... the word pedophile may not have even been invented?

what i'm saying is it's just gotten ridiculous now - kids can't even sit on santa's lap anymore!

[UTAU53Yui]

@HyperSonicSquall Well, Atom's got basically an eternal panty shot....

[peachcloverlauper]

@HyperSonicSquall You don't know much about Japan, do you?

[diddymuck]

Astro Girl (called that only in America) was originally called Uran (as in uranium). Jetto, the tall goofy one patterened after Arthur Lake was called Cobalt everywhere else.

[EJDW]

I think Astro's brother in the American version was called Jetto

[SonicArmony]

Lol, Cobalt seems Mortimer Mouse

[SonicArmony]

I love Astroboy & Uran

[DLAbaoaqu]

Who was that other robot?

Was he Astro and Uran's brother unit?

[profgandalf]

I remember that there was an "older" brother of Astro's in the original series who in fact was not as advanced as Astro. Jenny in "My Life as a Teenager Robot" faced a similiar problem. However, I do not recall how much he became intergrated with Asto's family which included his sister who I recall as Astro Girl. Of course the more recent versions have given her much better names.

[fromthesidelines]

The reason the current U.S. version sounds "sorta hard to hear" is because there was a great deal of reconstruction involved. The original NBC FILMS negatives don't exist- and 16mm film prints had to be used with original Japanese elements to "recreate" the American episodes.

[Juliusaime]

you know, the Japanes verson sounds so clean while the USA verson sounds sorta hard to hear due to possoble damage.

[lovebug93]

i love astro boy so much!!!!