Yes you need that 24 bit or more for actually producing most efficiently all the multiple channels and effects into your final stereo 16bit CD. The degradation of the source material in the mix among others is otherwise simply too large or insufficiant for more complex recordings.
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ShynAwkward has no idea what the fuck hes talking about 12 bit sounds a hell of alot better than 24 bit & the human ear cant hear better than 16 bit anyway, 12 bit gives a killa sound, vintage hardware murders all the latest crap, you can play 24 bit samples on the 5000 anyway
all AKAI needs to do is make an mpc2000xl with more memory and a better screen and the number/rec play dub buttons should be more like a pay phone, the back needs the option of aux jacks as well as phone jacks without having to buy 8 outs, it needs a usb hub for memory sticks instead of flash cards and floppy ect, it would be phat if it was totally portable with a recharge battery, i think akai needs to work around us, not us work around them, they would never have a bad review again
Finally I got my one last week. Didn't read the manual yet but I can already say:GREAT MACHINE.It works perfect with my midi setup and other sound devices.CHECK OUT THE TWO LATEST VIDEOS WITH MPC5000 ON MY ACCOUNT!!!
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24 Bit, 16Bit...ha, if its 8 Bit, it dont matter. Forget about whats obsolete or not! The Best HipHop was made with the SP1200, MPC 3000/2000/XL, ..check out Dibiase from Cali, or Logikbomb from DC, Oddisee from DC, these guys are making TRUE HIPHOP and donot consern themselfs with old or new just MAKE REAL HipHop, DnB whatever! Dibiase makes his live tracks with a BOSS SP 303 and his Beats will ish on these cracker kack box "producers" making the mainstream stuff. ~ OSR!
24 Bit, 16Bit...ha, if its 8 Bit, it dont matter. Forget about whats obsolete or not! The Best HipHop was made with the SP1200, MPC 3000/2000/XL, ..check out Dibiase from Cali, or Logikbomb from DC, Oddissee from DC, these guys are making TRUE HIPHOP and donot consern themselfs with old or new just MAKE REAL HipHop, DnB whatever! Dibiase makes his live tracks with a BOSS SP 303 and his Beats will ish on these cracker kack box "producers" making the mainstream stuff. ~ OSR!
@whotookmypiewtf The first one had a problem with the, forgotton what its called, the anolgue sound something...ah, its late. Basically the sound stopped coming out of it. Hardware had to be replaced (after a few hours use- although im suspicious that it had been used before i got it due to the menu layouts, and no tutorial file!). The replacement machine broke after using the effects. I added a few effects to test out to sounds, a large buzz was generated that couldnt be stopped and...
@FuturedaveyP after rebooting a message came up saying 'effects engine failed to load'. Does it every time and now now sound is generated by the unit. If it did what its suppossed to then its a wicked bit of kit. Problem is, since september, when i bought it, ive had next to no use out of it. Well disappointing. Im told its built like a tank. Yeah, it is, its heavy and solid, but what good is that when it breaks through normal careful use?! im preying i get a new machine like i originally bought
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Based on the way u kats come off, as if u all are God Almighty of MPCs/Music.. chk ur attitudes fellaz, giving producers/engineers a bad name/rap!! If you have knowledge that someone else doesn't pass dat shit on!! but don't brow beat the fuck outta these lil kats, for what?? To make what point?? Music wasn't my chosen profession it chose me! Be Blessed 1luv
i would head down to my local guitar center and purchase a 5000 today if they released the source code to JJ and they made a JJOS for the 5000.. but it wont happen so 2500 with JJOS is what im sticking with.. JJ might be the only team that can save the 5000, they single handedly saved the 1000 from extinction and they can do the same for the 5.. nukai would sell more units and everyone would be happy. nukai and the customers and JJ because they could charge a few hundred for a password..
Akai really let producers down by making the 5000 with only 44.1k/16 bit audio.
Especially when the 4000 has 24 bit & was made 5 years earlier!
That would be like Sony making a Playstation 4 that only worked in 64 bit (would you buy it?!)
EVERY type of sequencing software now works in 32 bit & 24 bit & I don't know ANY serous producer who still sequences in 16 bit in 2010 (obsolete technology).
@ShynAwkward I agree with you to an extent though I wouldn't jump out and say none serious is using lower than 32 bit (hell look at dj premier ) but it was a huge let down with this. I waited so long for this to come out then when i finally got my hands on it, then on Native instruments maschine.... never thought I would leave my mpc but now I'm on maschine and much happier. could not believe the 5000 I mean really for the price they should have came much better.
Technically yes but... I hate when people say things like that... A beat maker/arranger is a producer. If you are creating music in general you are "producing" the track. If you disagree then please tell me what the difference is? I am listening....
Maybe in the older days of production a producer would just front the finances for projects but it isnt like that anymore. Anyone who auditions, plays, arranges or lays out drums and synths is considered "producing" the track.
But over all it is still considered "producing" right? Even if one were to just lay out drum work, you would then say he/she "co-produced" the track. The title "producer" is exactly what it means, to produce something. In this case drums and music.
@ShynAwkward Actually some of the greatest producers of all time don't complete a track "by themselves." Their talent comes in knowing what a good record needs and how to accomplish it, which can include anything from calling in other instrumentalists, to telling a vocalist how to say certain things, to knowing how to work with engineers for things like mic placement, sound processing.....to arranging, to playing instruments if needbe, etc.
But, also consider that the role of a "producer" has changed since Quincy's day.
There were no plugins or laptops then, so if you wanted drums, bass, or guitar, you HAD TO call in musicians & give them your arrangements with music notation.
'Most' producers no longer 'have to' do this in 2011 as all sounds are available on a VST, Motif or Fantom!
So the term "producer" must also be updated to reflect the required workload.
@ShynAwkward A producer is a person who creates a track and finalizes it with everything from samples to vocals to any other sound. Saying Pete Rock is not a producer is just disrespecting Hip Hop and its pioneers who created its authentic sound. You don't have to be able to play a traditional instrument to be labeled a producer. Thats ignorant because your not the one actually creating the sound in the end, it's the instrument. Your just playing it.
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@ShynAwkward To be honest it doesn't matter a great deal if you record at 24 or 32 bit if it's for a CD. Since CD's are only 16bit. Now for film is a totally different story
People, before you comment, please research 24 bit recording & why industry professionals use 24 bit recording, before dithering tracks to 16 bit. Google is free for everybody!
24 bit makes a very big difference when processing vocals, reverbs, various effects & offers the necessary headroom needed for modern mastering levels.
If u don't care to research these things, then please stop leaving ignorant comments.
@ShynAwkward Blame that shortcoming (if that's what you want to name it) on the home studio owners who keep saying the sound must be dirty and gritty for it to be right. Some of them are such fanatics they think nothing is better than an MPC60 or MP3000. By their logic we might as well keep drving Model T Fords.
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@TomZentra well some older cars were made out of steel, they didn't get recked as easy. The were fashionable, classy tanks. SOME old things are worth keeping. Haven't you ever seen an old For Gran Torino that cost more than a new Benz? Cause some classics never die, homie. Low bit rums rock, high resolution everything else, especially synths, also rock. To producers and mix engineers every type sound is like a color. Pick the right ones to make a great painting.
@ShynAwkward i feel you but you are wrong. For drums (what the mpc is mainly used for in my studio) high resolution is not needed due to short and quick transient sounds. The opposite is true for most producers who know. Lower bit drums cut through mixes better. That's why the original 8 bit MPC 60 is still a sought after machine, especially with upgraded memory (mpc 3000)
Shynawkward is right! MPC'S are NOT mainly used for drums, they are also used for samples (Brass, musical phrases, & Piano riffs etc) Just check any mpc video on YouTube (20% drums 80% musical samples).
Lower bit rates are excellent for an old school effect, but what if we don't want everything to sound old school??
Ask ANY industry PROFESSIONAL (not basement amatures) & they will tell you, 24 bit is the way to go when you need modern dynamic range.
@1Electrosexual Good points but I don't think there is a right or wrong. Just a desired out come. I record at 24bit 88.2 but i add some low bit elements in my mix SOMETIMES. And "industry professional" advice varies on who and for what purpose. If low bit depth were not needed, then it would not exist. Also did you for get that 99.9% of sampled music is sampled from 16 bit 44.1 CDs. There is no loss of sonics. The best way to sample is not to. I use mics and real sources when ever i can.
Your comment made sense on its own but not as a reply to the original point raised.
Let me spell it out for you; Professionals use 24 bit in the studio. NOT everybody makes hip-hop music, so NOT everybody wants retro, grimey tone on their MPC drum tracks & samples. Just because You & Kanye like 12/16 bit, that doesn't mean it's suitable for every genre. Understand?
The mpc 4000 gave people a choice of bitrate & was made in 2002!
I'm sorry dude but you can't speak for all "sample heads".
U sound ignorant when u used Kanye as an example of why we should all be using 16 bit.
If you know anything about modern mastering levels you would know that raising the gain on 16 bit files increases the noise floor. 24 bit eliminates this problem & gives you the CHOICE as to how clean or dirrty U wanna sound.
Most of the big boys in hip-hop will have at least one mpc 4000 for this very reason.. do some research
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@TubeWarriorR Ok, first and foremost, lets get one thing str8. I never denounced the 4000. I think the 4000 is the king of all MPC's (some say the 2500). All I was saying is, to all those thats still rock the old school MP's there is still an option and that we can't kill off all the 16 bit machines. I removed my comments because clearly people take their MPC serious (which is good). Doesn't matter what you have...MAKE MUSIC! Hope that wasn't to 'ignorant' for your comprehension!
@ShynAwkward hip hop shoud sound gritty, i'am not saying akai got it right limiting the resolution capability, it shoud be capable to go up to 24 and down to 12 bits to be an all porpouse machine. also with a couple more midi outs it would be perfect to be the heart of any decent studio. maybe the next model.... i won't buy this one, stick to my 2500 for the moment.
@ShynAwkward Most of modern music doesn't even use full 16bit resolution, because it squashed to death. I don't think mpc being 16bit is a problem. Keep in mind that most of classic hardware is 12bit, which sound is considered "fatter" by many.
@ShynAwkward It doesn't matter because unless your exporting it onto a BluRay Disc (which supports 24 bit) you are shit outta luck, because the maximum bit rate on a CD is 16 bits (.wave or .AIFF)......so no matter what your "professional" software and hardware say they work in (32 bit...or whatever), once you bounce it on to a CD (or play it on an mp3 player as an mp3 file which is even worse) and play it in a CD player, it PLAYS IT BACK IN 16 BIT!!! ^_^
@ShynAwkward It doesn't matter because unless your exporting it onto a BluRay Disc (which supports 24 bit) you are shit outta luck, because the maximum bit rate on a CD is 16 bits (.wave or .AIFF)......so no matter what your "professional" software and hardware say they work in (32 bit...or whatever), once you bounce it on to a CD (or play it on an mp3 player as an mp3 file which is even worse) and play it in a CD player, it PLAYS IT BACK IN 16 BIT!!! ^_^
Two outputs from the MPC to 2 ins, panning left and right. into the Mbox2's DI, or if you have a mixer, even better... 2 main/stereo outs to mixer's line input channels 1/2 panning applied, mixer's main/CR outs go straight to the Mbox2, no midi here...
Buy the 4000 - There is no muti program and sequence save function like the 4000. Why lose the best new feature in the akai family? The 4000 has got 96k/24bit - the 5000 comes only with 44.1k/16bit. Get the best quality for your sounds and take the MPC 4000!
@hereHehereHE While the MPC 4000 has more features, the MPC 5000 is a newer, leaner and more refined model.Both the MPC 4000 and the MPC 5000 have 64 MIDI output channels with 128 internal programs. The 4000 has more songs than the 5000 (128 to 20) and note storage capacity (300,000 to 100,000). Both machines have CD/RW drives to record music onto compact discs. The MPC 4000 comes with 272 MB of onboard memory, which can be expanded up to 512 MB.
@hereHehereHE The MPC 4000 has additional compatibility with non-Akai workstations, particularly those made by Roland and EMU.With 2000 euros regular price the MPC 5000 is not a good deal.
For 2000 euros one receives also a AKAI MPC1000, in addition an Yamaha AW1600 (Hp-recorder with digital mixer) and still a Waldorf Blofeld.
Forget what people be saying about the MPC5000 because just blaze dished it, don't get me wrong I am a big fan of just blaze, but im not a follower, I want me a MPC 5000 asap. This vid 'is what I needed to see.
its definitely all about the sounds. Use crappy sounds getting a crappy beat. if you need any sounds holler at me. I have over 1800 titles and have 1 TB hard drives FULL of sample cd-dvds.
still waiting for someone to demo some batshit insane ahpex acid on these things. these rap demos make me think you need a computer to do anything really complex
you say it takes you half an hour on a comp.. well if you consider all the preparation you need to do with the mpc i doest go exactly faster.. remember to record and or cut up samples and assign to pads etc.. all taking time too which isnt showed in this vid!
I've been a MPC user for years (3000). I also love software (Ableton Live). What he did in this video can be done easily in Live, but for what it's worth, the MPC's were always known for excellent workflow.
This has gotta be the coolest thing ever. How much can i get one for?
Joshoman66 1 month ago
@Joshoman66 about 1500 euro
Linkin1122 3 weeks ago
Yes you need that 24 bit or more for actually producing most efficiently all the multiple channels and effects into your final stereo 16bit CD. The degradation of the source material in the mix among others is otherwise simply too large or insufficiant for more complex recordings.
laxiton 1 month ago
Reason 6 runs shit now and hardware has gone the way of the crack head.
kbilzs 2 months ago
omg I want, the thing is sooooo sexy
ttabbachino 2 months ago
I want to see akai samplers with a 12 bit option. I love my MPC60 and wont be parting with it any time soon.
ElasticMinds 3 months ago
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MakeANiggaLaugh 3 months ago
mpc= rap
holaemga12 4 months ago
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ShynAwkward has no idea what the fuck hes talking about 12 bit sounds a hell of alot better than 24 bit & the human ear cant hear better than 16 bit anyway, 12 bit gives a killa sound, vintage hardware murders all the latest crap, you can play 24 bit samples on the 5000 anyway
gadz1 6 months ago
@gadz1
You are a complete retard!
Like a fool you said "the human ear cant hear better than 16 bit anyway".
Then please explain why every DAW & sequencer operates at 24 to 64 bit float?
Who are you to decide what bit rate professionals use?
Not everybody wants their drums to sound like grimey, early 90's hip-hop you moron.
The MPC 5000 CANNOT play 24 bit files, it dithers them to 16 bit before playback.
Stop spreading misinformation, you know nothing about music production.
1Electrosexual 4 months ago 7
I'm selling a brand new MPC500 for £500 but you need to come and collect it so I can prove it's brand new.
I aint pissing about with no delivery. If you don't like you don't take.
CelticProgeny 7 months ago
I can do the same think with reason and my mpd32 , just as fast...
crookedskamm 7 months ago
all AKAI needs to do is make an mpc2000xl with more memory and a better screen and the number/rec play dub buttons should be more like a pay phone, the back needs the option of aux jacks as well as phone jacks without having to buy 8 outs, it needs a usb hub for memory sticks instead of flash cards and floppy ect, it would be phat if it was totally portable with a recharge battery, i think akai needs to work around us, not us work around them, they would never have a bad review again
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Finally I got my one last week. Didn't read the manual yet but I can already say:GREAT MACHINE.It works perfect with my midi setup and other sound devices.CHECK OUT THE TWO LATEST VIDEOS WITH MPC5000 ON MY ACCOUNT!!!
patrickontour 10 months ago
this eats my 500
Felnuts 10 months ago
the new mpcs are all 16...
ThePowerblunt 11 months ago
NICE VIBE
Qbakss 1 year ago
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Pianos suck too because they are old technology. plueeze people at home only care if they like it. hanna montana in 300bits still is crap to me.
professorquack 1 year ago
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musiccomputing 1 year ago
what does it matter that its 16 or 24 bit when it's gonna have the shit compressed out of it anyway!????
TurKdiRty 1 year ago
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24 Bit, 16Bit...ha, if its 8 Bit, it dont matter. Forget about whats obsolete or not! The Best HipHop was made with the SP1200, MPC 3000/2000/XL, ..check out Dibiase from Cali, or Logikbomb from DC, Oddisee from DC, these guys are making TRUE HIPHOP and donot consern themselfs with old or new just MAKE REAL HipHop, DnB whatever! Dibiase makes his live tracks with a BOSS SP 303 and his Beats will ish on these cracker kack box "producers" making the mainstream stuff. ~ OSR!
OrganikSoundLab 1 year ago
24 Bit, 16Bit...ha, if its 8 Bit, it dont matter. Forget about whats obsolete or not! The Best HipHop was made with the SP1200, MPC 3000/2000/XL, ..check out Dibiase from Cali, or Logikbomb from DC, Oddissee from DC, these guys are making TRUE HIPHOP and donot consern themselfs with old or new just MAKE REAL HipHop, DnB whatever! Dibiase makes his live tracks with a BOSS SP 303 and his Beats will ish on these cracker kack box "producers" making the mainstream stuff. ~ OSR!
OrganikSoundLab 1 year ago
sounds like BIG - Juicy
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24 bit suxx 16 is fat sound mpc 5000 is fukin proof for dat
theoneandonly3nasty 1 year ago
hot
devon8trillionaire 1 year ago
That guy is a fucking beast!!!!!....regular producers dont get to think you can do that as fast because you cant
utprizzo 1 year ago
i want this so bad....when i do im taking over hahahahahahah
tokyodreamkloudtunez 1 year ago
@tokyodreamkloudtunez dont buy it, the product is full of faults. Im once again trying to arrnage to get this pile of shit fixed by Akai.
FuturedaveyP 1 year ago 11
@FuturedaveyP whats wrong with it?
whotookmypiewtf 1 year ago
@whotookmypiewtf The first one had a problem with the, forgotton what its called, the anolgue sound something...ah, its late. Basically the sound stopped coming out of it. Hardware had to be replaced (after a few hours use- although im suspicious that it had been used before i got it due to the menu layouts, and no tutorial file!). The replacement machine broke after using the effects. I added a few effects to test out to sounds, a large buzz was generated that couldnt be stopped and...
FuturedaveyP 1 year ago
@FuturedaveyP after rebooting a message came up saying 'effects engine failed to load'. Does it every time and now now sound is generated by the unit. If it did what its suppossed to then its a wicked bit of kit. Problem is, since september, when i bought it, ive had next to no use out of it. Well disappointing. Im told its built like a tank. Yeah, it is, its heavy and solid, but what good is that when it breaks through normal careful use?! im preying i get a new machine like i originally bought
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Based on the way u kats come off, as if u all are God Almighty of MPCs/Music.. chk ur attitudes fellaz, giving producers/engineers a bad name/rap!! If you have knowledge that someone else doesn't pass dat shit on!! but don't brow beat the fuck outta these lil kats, for what?? To make what point?? Music wasn't my chosen profession it chose me! Be Blessed 1luv
JAtk2381 1 year ago
check out the HACKS akai gets to do their demos. get someone dope.
kidwithoutradio 1 year ago
@kidwithoutradio this guy sounds he never touched hardware until this day
SvetlanaIndustries 1 year ago
Check 4 , Beats by Wallace Green
illone1981 1 year ago
Always know this! its not in what kitchen you cook in, but the chef that cooks in that kitchen?!?!?!?!
TYRONEBIGGLES 1 year ago
the 30 min. on the computer is usualy loading the samples into the program and recording ect. it does take a little more time... but not much.
Hes usin presets or somthing soooo...
wow. not much diffrence.
Pieperson277 1 year ago
looks great :D i have 2000xl doesn't matter what you use its how u use it if you got heart you've got great music!
filo257 1 year ago
i would head down to my local guitar center and purchase a 5000 today if they released the source code to JJ and they made a JJOS for the 5000.. but it wont happen so 2500 with JJOS is what im sticking with.. JJ might be the only team that can save the 5000, they single handedly saved the 1000 from extinction and they can do the same for the 5.. nukai would sell more units and everyone would be happy. nukai and the customers and JJ because they could charge a few hundred for a password..
StrosB4Hos 1 year ago
nice big juicy base line lol
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how much these cost?
ArchyBeatz 1 year ago
Akai really let producers down by making the 5000 with only 44.1k/16 bit audio.
Especially when the 4000 has 24 bit & was made 5 years earlier!
That would be like Sony making a Playstation 4 that only worked in 64 bit (would you buy it?!)
EVERY type of sequencing software now works in 32 bit & 24 bit & I don't know ANY serous producer who still sequences in 16 bit in 2010 (obsolete technology).
Make a MPC 5000XL with 24 bit !!
ShynAwkward 1 year ago 75
@ShynAwkward I agree with you to an extent though I wouldn't jump out and say none serious is using lower than 32 bit (hell look at dj premier ) but it was a huge let down with this. I waited so long for this to come out then when i finally got my hands on it, then on Native instruments maschine.... never thought I would leave my mpc but now I'm on maschine and much happier. could not believe the 5000 I mean really for the price they should have came much better.
flux302 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward pete rock and the sp1200 is all i say to that
shamelads1289 1 year ago
@shamelads1289
I luv Pete Rock but he is not really a producer, he is more of a beat-maker/ arranger.
I haven't heard any Pete Rock songs on TV or radio in over 10 years...
It seems people on YouTube are always looking for something to disagree with without looking at things in context.
24 Bit recording is industry standard & has been for over 10 years
Anything less than 24 bit is limited in dynamic range
The SP1200 is very dated technology, ONLY capable of creating old-school 12 bit tone.
ShynAwkward 1 year ago 57
Pete rock uses an mpc now... and you dont often hear much Hip-Hop on the radio. But i know what you mean.
CiseDj 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward
Technically yes but... I hate when people say things like that... A beat maker/arranger is a producer. If you are creating music in general you are "producing" the track. If you disagree then please tell me what the difference is? I am listening....
Maybe in the older days of production a producer would just front the finances for projects but it isnt like that anymore. Anyone who auditions, plays, arranges or lays out drums and synths is considered "producing" the track.
pbee73 1 year ago
@pbee73
A 'producer' can complete a track by themselves (chord progression, vocal harmonies, live percussion, possibly some Live drums etc).
People who can do this like: Jam & Lewis, Teddy Riley, The Neptunes, Darkchild, RedOne, Ryan Leslie etc.
These cats can complete a project OUTSIDE OF HIP-HOP with or without samples because they have knowledge of music theory.
All of my favourite Pete Rock & CL smooth tracks are built on pre-existing songs (more arranging than creating from scratch).
ShynAwkward 1 year ago 18
@ShynAwkward
But over all it is still considered "producing" right? Even if one were to just lay out drum work, you would then say he/she "co-produced" the track. The title "producer" is exactly what it means, to produce something. In this case drums and music.
pbee73 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward Actually some of the greatest producers of all time don't complete a track "by themselves." Their talent comes in knowing what a good record needs and how to accomplish it, which can include anything from calling in other instrumentalists, to telling a vocalist how to say certain things, to knowing how to work with engineers for things like mic placement, sound processing.....to arranging, to playing instruments if needbe, etc.
Example: Quincy Jones.
misterlestrade 1 month ago
@misterlestrade
That's a good point you made!....
But, also consider that the role of a "producer" has changed since Quincy's day.
There were no plugins or laptops then, so if you wanted drums, bass, or guitar, you HAD TO call in musicians & give them your arrangements with music notation.
'Most' producers no longer 'have to' do this in 2011 as all sounds are available on a VST, Motif or Fantom!
So the term "producer" must also be updated to reflect the required workload.
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@ShynAwkward A producer is a person who creates a track and finalizes it with everything from samples to vocals to any other sound. Saying Pete Rock is not a producer is just disrespecting Hip Hop and its pioneers who created its authentic sound. You don't have to be able to play a traditional instrument to be labeled a producer. Thats ignorant because your not the one actually creating the sound in the end, it's the instrument. Your just playing it.
boombapbeats91 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward
you ignorance is showing, i can see it. Pete rock is a producer, rapper, and DJ. Nothing of a "Beat Maker/Arranger". He has six studio albums
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TubeWarriorR 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward To be honest it doesn't matter a great deal if you record at 24 or 32 bit if it's for a CD. Since CD's are only 16bit. Now for film is a totally different story
glict 1 year ago
@glict
People, before you comment, please research 24 bit recording & why industry professionals use 24 bit recording, before dithering tracks to 16 bit. Google is free for everybody!
24 bit makes a very big difference when processing vocals, reverbs, various effects & offers the necessary headroom needed for modern mastering levels.
If u don't care to research these things, then please stop leaving ignorant comments.
24 bit matters a lot, even for 16 bit CD's.
Ask ANY studio professional!
1Electrosexual 1 year ago 16
@1Electrosexual 24bit gives you 256 time better resolution that 16,777216 to 16bit 65,536
leshawn1977 7 months ago
@1Electrosexual 24bit gives you 256 time better resolution that 16,777216 to 16bit 65,536
leshawn1977 7 months ago
@ShynAwkward
AKAI´s last MPC is the 4000,than NUMARK took over...
So don´t blame AKAI if you don´t like the sound.
Still the MPC60 with only 12bit is the best sounding MPC ever...Roger Linn 1986.
defcreator 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward dam the playstation is more that 64bit? I didn't know that shit
ColdGripHandle 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward Blame that shortcoming (if that's what you want to name it) on the home studio owners who keep saying the sound must be dirty and gritty for it to be right. Some of them are such fanatics they think nothing is better than an MPC60 or MP3000. By their logic we might as well keep drving Model T Fords.
TomZentra 1 year ago
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@TomZentra well some older cars were made out of steel, they didn't get recked as easy. The were fashionable, classy tanks. SOME old things are worth keeping. Haven't you ever seen an old For Gran Torino that cost more than a new Benz? Cause some classics never die, homie. Low bit rums rock, high resolution everything else, especially synths, also rock. To producers and mix engineers every type sound is like a color. Pick the right ones to make a great painting.
iandavismusic 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward It's not about what you use, it's how you use it
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@ShynAwkward i feel you but you are wrong. For drums (what the mpc is mainly used for in my studio) high resolution is not needed due to short and quick transient sounds. The opposite is true for most producers who know. Lower bit drums cut through mixes better. That's why the original 8 bit MPC 60 is still a sought after machine, especially with upgraded memory (mpc 3000)
iandavismusic 1 year ago
@iandavismusic
No, actually, you are wrong!
Shynawkward is right! MPC'S are NOT mainly used for drums, they are also used for samples (Brass, musical phrases, & Piano riffs etc) Just check any mpc video on YouTube (20% drums 80% musical samples).
Lower bit rates are excellent for an old school effect, but what if we don't want everything to sound old school??
Ask ANY industry PROFESSIONAL (not basement amatures) & they will tell you, 24 bit is the way to go when you need modern dynamic range.
1Electrosexual 1 year ago 6
@1Electrosexual Good points but I don't think there is a right or wrong. Just a desired out come. I record at 24bit 88.2 but i add some low bit elements in my mix SOMETIMES. And "industry professional" advice varies on who and for what purpose. If low bit depth were not needed, then it would not exist. Also did you for get that 99.9% of sampled music is sampled from 16 bit 44.1 CDs. There is no loss of sonics. The best way to sample is not to. I use mics and real sources when ever i can.
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HitzvilleTV 1 year ago
@HitzvilleTV
Schooling who exactly?
Your comment made sense on its own but not as a reply to the original point raised.
Let me spell it out for you; Professionals use 24 bit in the studio. NOT everybody makes hip-hop music, so NOT everybody wants retro, grimey tone on their MPC drum tracks & samples. Just because You & Kanye like 12/16 bit, that doesn't mean it's suitable for every genre. Understand?
The mpc 4000 gave people a choice of bitrate & was made in 2002!
MPC 5000 = less options
1Electrosexual 1 year ago 10
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HitzvilleTV 1 year ago
@HitzvilleTV
I'm sorry dude but you can't speak for all "sample heads".
U sound ignorant when u used Kanye as an example of why we should all be using 16 bit.
If you know anything about modern mastering levels you would know that raising the gain on 16 bit files increases the noise floor. 24 bit eliminates this problem & gives you the CHOICE as to how clean or dirrty U wanna sound.
Most of the big boys in hip-hop will have at least one mpc 4000 for this very reason.. do some research
TubeWarriorR 1 year ago 15
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@TubeWarriorR Ok, first and foremost, lets get one thing str8. I never denounced the 4000. I think the 4000 is the king of all MPC's (some say the 2500). All I was saying is, to all those thats still rock the old school MP's there is still an option and that we can't kill off all the 16 bit machines. I removed my comments because clearly people take their MPC serious (which is good). Doesn't matter what you have...MAKE MUSIC! Hope that wasn't to 'ignorant' for your comprehension!
HitzvilleTV 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward hip hop shoud sound gritty, i'am not saying akai got it right limiting the resolution capability, it shoud be capable to go up to 24 and down to 12 bits to be an all porpouse machine. also with a couple more midi outs it would be perfect to be the heart of any decent studio. maybe the next model.... i won't buy this one, stick to my 2500 for the moment.
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@ShynAwkward Most of modern music doesn't even use full 16bit resolution, because it squashed to death. I don't think mpc being 16bit is a problem. Keep in mind that most of classic hardware is 12bit, which sound is considered "fatter" by many.
zyguli 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward thats because the 5000 is actually a 3500. they marketed it as 5000 just to boost it as the latest and most powerful of its category...
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@ShynAwkward It doesn't matter because unless your exporting it onto a BluRay Disc (which supports 24 bit) you are shit outta luck, because the maximum bit rate on a CD is 16 bits (.wave or .AIFF)......so no matter what your "professional" software and hardware say they work in (32 bit...or whatever), once you bounce it on to a CD (or play it on an mp3 player as an mp3 file which is even worse) and play it in a CD player, it PLAYS IT BACK IN 16 BIT!!! ^_^
ashdcash88 1 year ago
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1Electrosexual 1 year ago
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@ashdcash88
What are you talkin about?
Professionals process audio in 24 or 32 bit before it's dithered to 16 bit (cd quality) or mp3.
There is a VERY important reason why this is done.
Just do a little research before you embarrass yourself with ignorant comments.
Why take that arrogant tone with people when, based on your comment, you obviously have no professional recording experience?
Fall back..
TubeWarriorR 1 year ago
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@ShynAwkward It doesn't matter because unless your exporting it onto a BluRay Disc (which supports 24 bit) you are shit outta luck, because the maximum bit rate on a CD is 16 bits (.wave or .AIFF)......so no matter what your "professional" software and hardware say they work in (32 bit...or whatever), once you bounce it on to a CD (or play it on an mp3 player as an mp3 file which is even worse) and play it in a CD player, it PLAYS IT BACK IN 16 BIT!!! ^_^
ashdcash88 1 year ago
@ShynAwkward So what's so special about the 5000 then?
jess1up 4 months ago 2
This beat is fire.
EBL 1 year ago
get the mpc 4000 its better then the 5000
816showtime 1 year ago
effortless... thats why i bought it!! Good Job Andy!
bwflolo 1 year ago
i wish to hav one!!!!!!!!
558justino 1 year ago
If you any piece of equipment in n out you can do anything.
KayPfromthaD 1 year ago
FAST ANDY ;=)
TIGERJUNGE
TIGERJUNGETV 1 year ago
2 minutes ok. but with all the samples already loaded?
you can do that on a pc if the samples are already loaded...
motu828mk2 1 year ago
clear soundz h
theoneandonly3nasty 1 year ago
this mpc is 2000
bostongunners187 1 year ago
legend
electrofreak02 1 year ago
this MPC 5000 costs like $300 dnt they?
STR33TS0ULJA 1 year ago
haha no.. .. .. more like $2000..
ohgrx 1 year ago
fuck mpc 4000 is old shit
theoneandonly3nasty 1 year ago
i figured out how to record straight into pro tools with a s/pdif cable...
vfloyd2012 2 years ago
GOOD FOR YOU BUDDY
rantarave 2 years ago
@rantarave Bitch ass FUCK!!
vfloyd2012 2 years ago
I've got an mbox2 and an MPC 5000. How do I get my beats into protools? Or fruity loops? HELP
vfloyd2012 2 years ago
I think you have to use a midi USB interface
thomson765 2 years ago
FL Studio reads MIDI
thomson765 2 years ago
Two outputs from the MPC to 2 ins, panning left and right. into the Mbox2's DI, or if you have a mixer, even better... 2 main/stereo outs to mixer's line input channels 1/2 panning applied, mixer's main/CR outs go straight to the Mbox2, no midi here...
TERRANCIO 2 years ago
it's called a midi cable.
sudz03 1 year ago
Buy the 4000 - There is no muti program and sequence save function like the 4000. Why lose the best new feature in the akai family? The 4000 has got 96k/24bit - the 5000 comes only with 44.1k/16bit. Get the best quality for your sounds and take the MPC 4000!
jeromelester8 2 years ago 5
@jeromelester8 what are the advantages of the mpc 5000?
hereHehereHE 1 year ago
@hereHehereHE While the MPC 4000 has more features, the MPC 5000 is a newer, leaner and more refined model.Both the MPC 4000 and the MPC 5000 have 64 MIDI output channels with 128 internal programs. The 4000 has more songs than the 5000 (128 to 20) and note storage capacity (300,000 to 100,000). Both machines have CD/RW drives to record music onto compact discs. The MPC 4000 comes with 272 MB of onboard memory, which can be expanded up to 512 MB.
jeromelester8 1 year ago
@hereHehereHE The MPC 4000 has additional compatibility with non-Akai workstations, particularly those made by Roland and EMU.With 2000 euros regular price the MPC 5000 is not a good deal.
For 2000 euros one receives also a AKAI MPC1000, in addition an Yamaha AW1600 (Hp-recorder with digital mixer) and still a Waldorf Blofeld.
jeromelester8 1 year ago 2
very nice demonstration. i love mpc`s
dirkklages 2 years ago
Forget what people be saying about the MPC5000 because just blaze dished it, don't get me wrong I am a big fan of just blaze, but im not a follower, I want me a MPC 5000 asap. This vid 'is what I needed to see.
slimmivy 2 years ago
I Love the MPC 5000 :D
Schallschatten 2 years ago
smu(ud).... thats whas happenin...
SunRhythms 2 years ago
Finally a beat machine demo tailored toward to hip hop heads
sniculbeatz1 2 years ago
lol word.
SoundsOfTheInfinite 2 years ago
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manuelbeastie 2 years ago
very good explained, but if you want to create rare music, you need rare samples.
fadinweed 2 years ago
like rare rabbit hare!
joeycarr333 2 years ago
The synth part of this video is insightful. I would have liked to have seen a lot more of this feature.
TomZentra 2 years ago
its definitely all about the sounds. Use crappy sounds getting a crappy beat. if you need any sounds holler at me. I have over 1800 titles and have 1 TB hard drives FULL of sample cd-dvds.
check them out at myspacecom/samplelibraries .
or email me at samplelibraries AT yahoo . com
sharade27 2 years ago 2
still waiting for someone to demo some batshit insane ahpex acid on these things. these rap demos make me think you need a computer to do anything really complex
d3p3ch3mod3 2 years ago
This video is hot! The work flow is so fast if you know what ur doing! U r the man!!!!
beatking1111 2 years ago
You hatez!!! This guy is the best on the net. Get a life and do or say something worth reading!
beatking1111 2 years ago
Andy mac sold me a numark alesis workstation for cheap, he gets off the lorry equipment cheap.
He's the man, cos he's the manager and he steals stock. But u have to meet him in bracknell
Nahmsteve 2 years ago
rather use a midi controller with faders off my pc. to each their own
lkrux 2 years ago
u must have good vst's
wildcomfort88 2 years ago
this is a good demo!
KeyLowGeezie 2 years ago
AH yes, I guess in a polite way you were meaning the four eyed one
chompy410 2 years ago
This demo was great right up until the point that he started messing with the synth.
kb420ps 2 years ago 4
bassline SUCKS!!!!!!
BlackMalukuFlames 2 years ago
sounded like a song called Juicy Fruit
junekat 2 years ago 3
I was watching and saying the same damn thing! LMAO! I was like, "juuuuuicy.......juicy fruit".......lmao!
C3DesignBuild 2 years ago
you say it takes you half an hour on a comp.. well if you consider all the preparation you need to do with the mpc i doest go exactly faster.. remember to record and or cut up samples and assign to pads etc.. all taking time too which isnt showed in this vid!
joincoinnetwork 2 years ago 3
exactly
Akronam07 2 years ago
I've been a MPC user for years (3000). I also love software (Ableton Live). What he did in this video can be done easily in Live, but for what it's worth, the MPC's were always known for excellent workflow.
kb420ps 2 years ago
Great video demo Andy!
stupermancoolness 2 years ago
of course if you already have it mentally prepared for a demo, it seems quick
2Jaze 2 years ago
where was ANDY during NAMM 08
mjames4208 2 years ago
S#&t was ill!! You demo'd this well!! Madd props
illanoiz1000 3 years ago
*DRIBBLE*
ASDOOM77 3 years ago
that was tight work and fast..... thats why i love mpcs over computers.
beatjonez 3 years ago
mac-daddy
oli2808 3 years ago
1 of tha best vids 4 thiz product..makes me want it,badly
jhaikc 3 years ago
thats f***in wkd son i want it
lovin the bassline
smokegreensmoke 3 years ago