@tine214 Very much agree. Also hate the term "developing".. hence the quotation marks.. The term "developing" seems to universally mean "people we previously fucked over with colonialism".
At least he tried for a change. Too bad the forces against him very too strong and the strong had unlimitless supply of zombies willing to do their masters bidding with out a question. Propaganda has sure worked well.
Name to me even 1 time when the leader of any "developed" nation has sat down and talked this frankly about foreign policy and political ideals. ?? Never happened. You can learn a whole heck of a lot about the world from watching this. Whether you agree with Manley's point of view or not.
People who find this educational should watch a movie called "Life and Debt".
i wish we had the will to at least attempt these ideas back, i wonder what woulda happened if the US didn't create the circumstances of de-stablaztion and I wish battyman seaga would of resisted and did what was the right thing for the Island to this day I can't come to uderstand we eleceted someone from di cayman island to run our island we failed our sellfs
Brukins - America as in Wall Street undermined PM Manley visions on purpose bc Wall Street knows we dont know our history as one nation. slavery - sugar was used to divide Jamaica
Nonsense Menlie's vison was destructive Here he articulates it
Take a country with a thriving economy and zero everythiing in under four years.
You preach class hate and racial divide all wrapped up in a nice populist bundle, sold to semi-literate masses that worshiip the verty ground you walk on.
The net result is more poverty, more division and an econmy unable to withstand even minor stress without the help of donors and loan-sharks.
Did you miss where the so-called Socialist Agenda wrecked the country and where the proponents of the then turn to Capitalism and wrecked it even more?
@brukins Did you miss where the US saboaged the country through the CIA and seaga? That was a successful malicious attemp by the capitalist agenda to starve the jamaican population into usbmission, brought guns in to start a war in jamaica, set fire to a old peoples home killing hundred +, 800 died in US instigated war in 1980 the country then submited to us and the only got worst and the economy only got worst, the country took a step back in time and has been in decline since.
@brukins Are you aware that you just contradict yourself? The USA via the CIA sabotaged Jamaica = The USA via the CIA and their cronies edward ciaga who is an american, sabotaged the economy which is what you just said toasted the economy.
You are a victim of the CIA propaganda, you admit they sabotaged Jamaica and try to exclude the economic sabotage which by the way was the most critical part of the sabotage followed by the guns they flooded into Tivoli gardens to instigate civil war.
I don't have one single shred of evidence that the USA and the CIA destroyed Jamaica. That is what i said and that is what i mean. Anything thing else is you read that i said is your fertile imagination.
@brukins Seems like you have amnesia you clearly stated "I was aware that the USA via the CIA sabotaged Jamaica" Case closed on that issue do not start lying now.
@allianceFiLifeDotCom no man @burkins is right ...if you check the documentary on "The Shower Posse" an ex CIA member reveals the plan to take down Michael Manley by backing edward Seaga and giving his supporters guns
@zioncitizen1987 How is he right when he is speaking the opposite of what you just said? I was the one who made those statements. That idiot is failing at countering that argument.
@allianceFiLifeDotCom oh zeen my bad to tell you the truth I didn't read the comments properly but if that's what you are saying then you are the one who is right
@brukins Right beside your comment is a video called "CIA Activities In Jamaica"!!!! You don't click on that and instead ask this guy to explain. That can only be called ignoring of facts - ignorance. Sometimes it's not enough to be there when something happens to overstand it. Just because my friend was in New York when the planes hit the two towers, doesn't mean that she knows more about how and why that happened than someone else.
"The real problem of the world, which is the problem of the tensions created by the 3/4 of the world who live in poverty, and that 1/4 that lives in plenty - that's the real source of potencial trouble in the world's future..."
Idealism is rather ideal....
mooch9668 3 months ago
@tine214 Very much agree. Also hate the term "developing".. hence the quotation marks.. The term "developing" seems to universally mean "people we previously fucked over with colonialism".
yourmanwatson 4 months ago
HMMMMMM
whotaughtyou 4 months ago
"Every man's freedom is enlarged when any other man's freedom is secured."
Commit that to memory. Lord knows how many times you'll need to recite it.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
At least he tried for a change. Too bad the forces against him very too strong and the strong had unlimitless supply of zombies willing to do their masters bidding with out a question. Propaganda has sure worked well.
suutari13 1 year ago
Name to me even 1 time when the leader of any "developed" nation has sat down and talked this frankly about foreign policy and political ideals. ?? Never happened. You can learn a whole heck of a lot about the world from watching this. Whether you agree with Manley's point of view or not.
People who find this educational should watch a movie called "Life and Debt".
yourmanwatson 1 year ago 2
The man was amazing! Makes me proud to be a Jamaican.
drewav8r 1 year ago
i like how he speaks and moves around his sofa as well as his hand gestures.
lefmeman 1 year ago
i wish we had the will to at least attempt these ideas back, i wonder what woulda happened if the US didn't create the circumstances of de-stablaztion and I wish battyman seaga would of resisted and did what was the right thing for the Island to this day I can't come to uderstand we eleceted someone from di cayman island to run our island we failed our sellfs
mdiddy62 1 year ago
Manley was a gyallis! I wonder if brukins did lose him gyal to Manley, mek him suh fixated pon this visionary?
Yow Mr. Brukins! wi kno yuh secret... suh jus res yuh-self!
gofukursef 1 year ago
this guy is a serious intellectual.
lefmeman 1 year ago
Brukins - America as in Wall Street undermined PM Manley visions on purpose bc Wall Street knows we dont know our history as one nation. slavery - sugar was used to divide Jamaica
ebonilia 2 years ago
Nonsense Menlie's vison was destructive Here he articulates it
Take a country with a thriving economy and zero everythiing in under four years.
You preach class hate and racial divide all wrapped up in a nice populist bundle, sold to semi-literate masses that worshiip the verty ground you walk on.
The net result is more poverty, more division and an econmy unable to withstand even minor stress without the help of donors and loan-sharks.
brukins 2 years ago
@brukins So what do you have to say now 30 years after the pro capitalist agenda has wrecked the country?
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
@allianceFiLifeDotCom
The pro-capitalist agenda wreck the country?
Did you miss where the so-called Socialist Agenda wrecked the country and where the proponents of the then turn to Capitalism and wrecked it even more?
Don't you see the common thread here?
brukins 1 year ago
@brukins Did you miss where the US saboaged the country through the CIA and seaga? That was a successful malicious attemp by the capitalist agenda to starve the jamaican population into usbmission, brought guns in to start a war in jamaica, set fire to a old peoples home killing hundred +, 800 died in US instigated war in 1980 the country then submited to us and the only got worst and the economy only got worst, the country took a step back in time and has been in decline since.
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
@allianceFiLifeDotCom
I was aware that the USA via the CIA sabotaged Jamaica.
I am aware that Menlie and his cronies toasted the economy.
brukins 1 year ago
@brukins Are you aware that you just contradict yourself? The USA via the CIA sabotaged Jamaica = The USA via the CIA and their cronies edward ciaga who is an american, sabotaged the economy which is what you just said toasted the economy.
You are a victim of the CIA propaganda, you admit they sabotaged Jamaica and try to exclude the economic sabotage which by the way was the most critical part of the sabotage followed by the guns they flooded into Tivoli gardens to instigate civil war.
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
@allianceFiLifeDotCom
Contradict myself on what?
I don't have one single shred of evidence that the USA and the CIA destroyed Jamaica. That is what i said and that is what i mean. Anything thing else is you read that i said is your fertile imagination.
brukins 1 year ago
@brukins Seems like you have amnesia you clearly stated "I was aware that the USA via the CIA sabotaged Jamaica" Case closed on that issue do not start lying now.
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
@allianceFiLifeDotCom no man @burkins is right ...if you check the documentary on "The Shower Posse" an ex CIA member reveals the plan to take down Michael Manley by backing edward Seaga and giving his supporters guns
zioncitizen1987 1 year ago
@zioncitizen1987 How is he right when he is speaking the opposite of what you just said? I was the one who made those statements. That idiot is failing at countering that argument.
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
@allianceFiLifeDotCom oh zeen my bad to tell you the truth I didn't read the comments properly but if that's what you are saying then you are the one who is right
zioncitizen1987 1 year ago
@brukins
Show I.
Could only be an error because I am not aware that the USA and the CIA sabotaged Jamaica. I am aware the Menlie destroyed the Economy.
brukins 1 year ago
@brukins Right beside your comment is a video called "CIA Activities In Jamaica"!!!! You don't click on that and instead ask this guy to explain. That can only be called ignoring of facts - ignorance. Sometimes it's not enough to be there when something happens to overstand it. Just because my friend was in New York when the planes hit the two towers, doesn't mean that she knows more about how and why that happened than someone else.
yourmanwatson 1 year ago
exactly. America through the CIA undermined manley
3star2nr 2 years ago
This man was a visionary in a greedy backward world!
conneaness 2 years ago 12
He was a corrupt individual that wrecked Jamaica's Economy and sent us to the Dark Ages!
brukins 2 years ago
I know you don't believe that. One person cannot do that.
afemidis1 2 years ago
Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, the list is much too long!
brukins 2 years ago
"The real problem of the world, which is the problem of the tensions created by the 3/4 of the world who live in poverty, and that 1/4 that lives in plenty - that's the real source of potencial trouble in the world's future..."
The man simply said it all.
CID296 2 years ago 10
Ms Manley was clearly a genius, and had a vision. People clearly back then tried to brand it as communisim. Fun how those discussion holds true.
nysbest2003 2 years ago 2
Basicly he is talking about how the system is FUCKED!.......and how much MONEY is being wasted on BullS!!!!
TheBrightBlackPearl 2 years ago