Even better than "close to where the product is consumed" would be "grown by the person who is nourished by this life." Product and Consumer are ugly words.
I agree we have overfished our enviroment.... 2 1/2 million taxpayer dollars. Dude! drop off the key, lee. You are part of the problem. Do you know how many people 2 1/2 million dollars will feed? You are a government drain on the economy.
If production is closer to the population center, should the cost not be less??
This production should be to improve all no t to increase the gain othe UPPERS!!!
for PETE'S sake!!! MECHANICAL SYSTEM =holy friehoiles Mother Earth has the system. I am beyond nute and these statements are pushing me farther down the rode.
It is amazing how such smart IQ folke can be so clueless.
@willholl69 Geez don't try to act smart. Hello have you seen the housing cost in NYC? Space is expensive. Greed is good, too much of it is bad. And if you are not greedy. I can spend you a po box to spend me your money.
@willholl69 you talk about greed. Greedy is the person who keeps on wanting to pay less for his food when farmers can't even make a decent wage and farm workers are imported for cheap labour.
A sustainable system brings decent wages to local people which builds a stronger economy and gives the consumer a better/fresher product because it is bought locally. A win a win situation.
@drahm33 the electricity used to transport fish to the city from farms elsewhere is much more than that required to run a local water pump/filtration system. and fish food is not expensive at all.
Its better then soil erosion and contamination...its self sustaing...its environmentally friendly...all you need is water...and an old guy with a masters degree approves of it...
Just want to add that you could have save a lot of research by talking to the Chinese farmers who has been using hydroponic system for thousands of years - rice field with carps and shrimps. In fact, my grandfather was farming fishes from mountain spring filled pond that cascade to his vegetable/rice field, which then cascade down to an duck farm, which the waste was dried and used as fertilizer. The ducks loves to hike 300m up to swim at the fish pond and eat insects from the vegetable farm.
hi! where can i learn this urban farming from? is there any way i can get a hold of you guys? i think this is the best way to produce better food for humanity.please let me know where i can learn this from.
hi! where can i learn this urban farming from? is there any way i can get a hold of you guys? i think this is the best way to produce better food for humanity.
This is an old number. It is now around 1.8 to 2 lbs. But even so, the fish in the system described eat a vegetarian diet. By far most of the forage fish caught in the ocean go to feed chickens, pigs and yes, your pet cat.
@krxlhubxu it looked like rockwool but there is a better product out called suretogrow its not natural because its made from recycled food grade plastic but that means it won't leak harmful chemicals into the water. If you are looking at organics expanded clay pellets are the way to go, they are reusable and ph neutral. rockwool has to have its ph adjusted and its not reusable and neither is the suretogrow.
Started trying to attract the attention of my Congressman Jim Himes to take a look at the Bridgeport Aquaculture Center, a high school in his district. This is a good find! The periphyton-based aquaculture technology used in Haiti, and in SE Asia has a much lower cost, but I do like this professor's idea for indoor tilapia in high-rise buildings. Catfish and Carp raised in a tall urban building is already being done in Europe.
Localization is likely to use less time and materials, but the value of that time and materials might be much cheaper in other locations. So it might be better to use the resources near the city to build things the farming in the country side can't make then trade with them. Everyone gets more of what they need and want.
true we need a local source...the tilapia i find a the grocery store and walmart are all farm raised in China...who knows what kind of lead and everything else might be in them.
The problem with university food systems is they don not take into account the massive energy they require to run. I bet backyardaquaponics [dot] com has people who produced more food that they did in their back yard!
I have 17 tilapia in my 60 gallon aquarium. Over the summer, their babies were in an aquaponics system in our backyard that produced 25 lbs. of meat, 30 pounds of tomatoes (that is a _lot_ of cherry tomatoes), and more basil than I could give away. Next year I am going to try to get a greenhouse. :)
@ElizabethAGreene i read recently that talipia flesh may cause alzeimers disease so scientists say from a survey .have you heard or know anything about that .
@aussiebluemax - I haven't seen any papers on it and can't make an informed comment. My gut feeling is it comes down to how the fish are raised. I would be surprised if it was reproducible with fish raised in a low stress clean water environment with a quality feed.
It is my uninformed opinion that many Alzheimers patients are misdiagnosed and have Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. Ruminant bone meal is (was) a very common ingredient in fish feed and may be a vector for CJD.
It can be made profitable, becuase of all the implications of transport and energy required currently for imports. This is also a way of saving water some of these systems may only lose 3%water as evaporation, the rest is taken up by the plants and fish. It has been done before but most commercial aquaculture does not do this very wasteful. Vegetarianism is great, however maybe eat less, and starving people causes wars, so solutions are needed unfortunately. Aus.
This is not a radical new idea hell my high school builders team did the same thing for a competition they had sea bass in a giant vat with a filter system and grew grain, tomatos, oregano, and basil from the nutrients of the fish waste then they grilled the bass put the chopped tomatos and spices on top of it and they even made pasta and put their own sauce on it they won first place
yeah its not a new idea.. I work in hydroponics and we get customers everyday buying equipment to set up aquaculture systems. I really like the sea bass and filtration idea man :).. freshwater fish would be easier and less costly to maintain.. But salt water fish generally are the tastiest :)
Well, all beings are unconsciously stimulated by environment in one way or another. Seems like higher fecal/bacteria presence and the density of fish in tanks would cause more anxiety/discomfort than some other situation less likely to inspire fight/flight response.)
seems like they're probably just swimming around, constantly surprised at how freaked they are.
Lack of memory probably means the effect of the the environment doesn't well up enough to make them 'depressed fishies," but the effect probably appears physically elsewhere in the animal -- physiological effects of increased adrenaline(?) or whatever hormones(?) released in response.
There is weird stuff about the chains of fat cells differing in farmed vs wild fish, and they don't really know why (maybe just breeding.) It does mean less healthy Omega 3 for their lucky dinner companions tho.
The idea is to consume the fish as well as the plants produced. I guess you would need a fast growing tasty salt water plant, and it would be much more costly and difficult to control the onductivity levels due to eveporation :)
this is a pretty cool idea but won't the people who make a living off of importing fish and sea food products complain due to lack of demand because of the local market?
That's the problem. Traditional fishing has basically depleted us of fish and other sea life so they're already getting hit pretty hard. They must adapt to a new system quick anyway because they're not going to survive as fishermen.
The fact remains that more than 80% of US seafood is imported from overseas (along with their diseases and contamination). Our oceans cannot yield enough product to feed the masses as it is - and if the ocean yields a 1-2% decrease, that means hundreds of thousands of people will NOT HAVE PROTIEN IN THEIR DIET AT ALL. So aquaculture will not bankrupt the fishermen - only make more food, that is clean, local, and safe for us to eat. Aquaculture is the solution for the world food crisis.
I know. Marti is the greatest and that is why I know this will eventually become a reality. Yes, someone has to step up to the plate. Martin Schreibman will be the person to call if I find the way to finance this great cause.
Mr.Schreibman has done a great job of presenting the value and need of aquaculture in our present society. However, why has his dream not become a reality? Everything is there...even the space. New York City has many roofs that would be ideal for such a venture. I only hear Marti, but I don't see his actual involvement. What are you waiting for...the oceans to be depleted fully? Sounds like a great story but far from reality. Perhaps Disney is behind this fairy tale.
Hi I do workstudy at this lab!
amberled 2 months ago
Iam thinking fish farming, hydroponic spinach,tomato and wheat there we go I grow my own sandwich!
mrtigretiger 4 months ago
Everybody should one of these in their basement or garage.
mrtigretiger 4 months ago
Even better than "close to where the product is consumed" would be "grown by the person who is nourished by this life." Product and Consumer are ugly words.
RioLuna829 4 months ago
@RioLuna829 indeed
Swansen03 1 month ago
This is awesome!!!
istudywater 5 months ago
I thought that was aquaponics.
brad238899 9 months ago
it is!
Discipleforchrist 7 months ago
too much weird music, montage, and factoids and not enough info on what the system looks like and how functions
chir0pter 9 months ago 4
@chir0pter Exactly
valdezorbust 4 months ago
I agree we have overfished our enviroment.... 2 1/2 million taxpayer dollars. Dude! drop off the key, lee. You are part of the problem. Do you know how many people 2 1/2 million dollars will feed? You are a government drain on the economy.
TheBuilderguy1 11 months ago
Amazing. This is the move.
mhmdulce 11 months ago
CONSUMERS WILL PAY MORE!!!!!!
Not correct not right!!!
Despicable
Greed!!!
and on and on
If production is closer to the population center, should the cost not be less??
This production should be to improve all no t to increase the gain othe UPPERS!!!
for PETE'S sake!!! MECHANICAL SYSTEM =holy friehoiles Mother Earth has the system. I am beyond nute and these statements are pushing me farther down the rode.
It is amazing how such smart IQ folke can be so clueless.
and end with GREED!!!
willholl69 11 months ago
@willholl69 Geez don't try to act smart. Hello have you seen the housing cost in NYC? Space is expensive. Greed is good, too much of it is bad. And if you are not greedy. I can spend you a po box to spend me your money.
sbhuiyan 6 months ago
@willholl69 I would like to see what it is that you are saying but the way you type makes that impossible.
valdezorbust 4 months ago
CONSUMERS WILL PAY MORE!!!!!!
Not correct not right!!!
Despicable
Greed!!!
and on and on
If production is closer to the population center, should the cost not be less??
This production should be to improve all no t to increase the gain othe UPPERS!!!
for PETE'S sake!!!
willholl69 11 months ago
@willholl69 you talk about greed. Greedy is the person who keeps on wanting to pay less for his food when farmers can't even make a decent wage and farm workers are imported for cheap labour.
A sustainable system brings decent wages to local people which builds a stronger economy and gives the consumer a better/fresher product because it is bought locally. A win a win situation.
eric24weber 9 months ago
@drahm33 the electricity used to transport fish to the city from farms elsewhere is much more than that required to run a local water pump/filtration system. and fish food is not expensive at all.
coolymcool 11 months ago
@coolymcool Fish food is made form fish by products. We go to the ocean to catch fish in order to feed fish.
valdezorbust 4 months ago
I hate aquaculture videos by academics that do not address the cost of electricity or fish food. We live in the real world.
drahm33 1 year ago 2
2:17....
AaaaghJOE 1 year ago
Telapia is banned in Australia unfortunately as a live fish source. But I have seen perch & barramundi live in local fish stores.
Fire4FX 1 year ago
Cool : this is an industrial ecology.
( At least it doesn't look like another one of those hippie dirty ecological stupidity! )
philoposos 1 year ago
Its better then soil erosion and contamination...its self sustaing...its environmentally friendly...all you need is water...and an old guy with a masters degree approves of it...
I'M IN, WHERE CAN I SIGN UP!
davedavedaveannoy1 1 year ago
so where do they get the food for fish? if it's from an outside source then it's not really substantial
WaiWu 1 year ago
Just want to add that you could have save a lot of research by talking to the Chinese farmers who has been using hydroponic system for thousands of years - rice field with carps and shrimps. In fact, my grandfather was farming fishes from mountain spring filled pond that cascade to his vegetable/rice field, which then cascade down to an duck farm, which the waste was dried and used as fertilizer. The ducks loves to hike 300m up to swim at the fish pond and eat insects from the vegetable farm.
sok8888 1 year ago 2
I wish i could do this.
InKa4484 1 year ago
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chengaun 1 year ago
hi! where can i learn this urban farming from? is there any way i can get a hold of you guys? i think this is the best way to produce better food for humanity.please let me know where i can learn this from.
surebenwin 1 year ago
hi! where can i learn this urban farming from? is there any way i can get a hold of you guys? i think this is the best way to produce better food for humanity.
surebenwin 1 year ago
Dont forget to house a few chickens in the room also. They produce a lot of BTU's of heat, and eggs. They eat anything left over also.
danman911 1 year ago
I wonder if one day every city would have a beautiful aquarium where we could admire fish, learn about sustainability, and supply local markets...
paperhummingbird 2 years ago 15
@paperhummingbird lets get one city to that first. its a grand dream of mine
RoyalJackofSpades 1 year ago
It takes three pounds of feeder fish to make one pound of fish for humans to consume. Thus exploiting the other fish that we need to save as well.
canandie 2 years ago
This is an old number. It is now around 1.8 to 2 lbs. But even so, the fish in the system described eat a vegetarian diet. By far most of the forage fish caught in the ocean go to feed chickens, pigs and yes, your pet cat.
speedolite 1 year ago 2
You don't know anything about tilapia fish. They are herbivores. They eat plant matter. So, where did you pull that figure from?
dontlikenumbers 1 year ago
@canandie then how about farming those feeder fish and feed them a meat type diet like they do with cows
2266money 1 year ago
Can somebody please tell me what's the medium used as an alternative to soil that was made to stick to styrofoam? Thanks!
krxlhubxu 2 years ago
@krxlhubxu it looked like rockwool but there is a better product out called suretogrow its not natural because its made from recycled food grade plastic but that means it won't leak harmful chemicals into the water. If you are looking at organics expanded clay pellets are the way to go, they are reusable and ph neutral. rockwool has to have its ph adjusted and its not reusable and neither is the suretogrow.
foggelus 2 years ago
@krxlhubxu hydroponic
lianghaochen 1 year ago
some people use shredded coconut husks.
dontlikenumbers 1 year ago
Started trying to attract the attention of my Congressman Jim Himes to take a look at the Bridgeport Aquaculture Center, a high school in his district. This is a good find! The periphyton-based aquaculture technology used in Haiti, and in SE Asia has a much lower cost, but I do like this professor's idea for indoor tilapia in high-rise buildings. Catfish and Carp raised in a tall urban building is already being done in Europe.
WalkingTourCommunity 2 years ago
Localization is likely to use less time and materials, but the value of that time and materials might be much cheaper in other locations. So it might be better to use the resources near the city to build things the farming in the country side can't make then trade with them. Everyone gets more of what they need and want.
MarkProffitt 2 years ago
true we need a local source...the tilapia i find a the grocery store and walmart are all farm raised in China...who knows what kind of lead and everything else might be in them.
Plum369 2 years ago
HAHA SUPER FISH! 3:04
thakook 2 years ago
Nutty Professor. Love it. I wish I was back in college studying this sort of stuff.
mountfujiave 2 years ago
LOVE IT RESPECT IT , great invention we truly need more people like you Mr Schreibman.
Muradthekhan 2 years ago
the problem here is people cannot stop seeing the world and all its living things solely as PRODUCTS for our consumption.
If we can fix this flaw in our thinking then were well on our way towards the right path.
peace
kellaneric 2 years ago
its called the better alternative, your two steps ahead of everyone else
Arsenic916 2 years ago
lovely
waterwingit13 2 years ago
i want to work there in college
2266money 2 years ago
I want to ((and can)) build a system larger then what he has there... now if I could find the capital.......
PakaNoHida 2 years ago
Try to use scavenged free materials. Start small. Focus on one high value item. Use the profits from the small system to expand.
MarkProffitt 2 years ago
@MarkProffitt nice i can dig that
foggelus 2 years ago
drahm33- you could always find a way to supplement the lesser omega3 in their food. Say by mixing in hemp seed somehow?
LaserKittensGoPewPew 2 years ago
Yeah agree. Obviously not. -but goes a step ahead in trying to do so... :P
istvansm87 2 years ago
Well done guys!
Save the world!
istvansm87 2 years ago
It takes lot of energy to grow things in a closed system like he shows.For every one to to do that doesn't save the world.
venturadog 2 years ago
2 much pvc... don't b stupid...
mjtrustfund 2 years ago
svi vimeni idete na kurac, zašto toliko gladnih ima na svijetu, oće li itko to proučit,pička vam materina znanstvena
jarcekozlinu 2 years ago
2 mill for that ? LOL
The problem with university food systems is they don not take into account the massive energy they require to run. I bet backyardaquaponics [dot] com has people who produced more food that they did in their back yard!
GreenLearning 2 years ago 2
Hi Prof, i don't have half a million dollars but i will like to start my own small fis farm, i ve tried but it all died. any tips
labolagi 2 years ago
I have some low-budget tips. Come say Hi!
Aimrehtopyh 2 years ago
Sunlight
drahm33 3 years ago
soon all meat will just be grown in vats through cloning anyway
javierenchina 3 years ago
MAYBE US =D
NWforager 3 years ago
2.5 million dollar facility??? I don't think I have that much loose change in the house?? LOL!!
eyeofra69 3 years ago
Would have been nice to see how much food they generated. 2.5 mil may be little compared to their output in fish/reduction of costs of fishing.
ExDeeXD 3 years ago
I'd like to know how feasible this might be for the apartment dweller or home gardener.
SpiketheDesertDog 3 years ago
I have 17 tilapia in my 60 gallon aquarium. Over the summer, their babies were in an aquaponics system in our backyard that produced 25 lbs. of meat, 30 pounds of tomatoes (that is a _lot_ of cherry tomatoes), and more basil than I could give away. Next year I am going to try to get a greenhouse. :)
ElizabethAGreene 3 years ago 23
thats very good setup...
was it difficult to setup?
ycats1000 3 years ago
yeah, that is impressive. How difficult and expensive was it to set up?
crock703 3 years ago
@ElizabethAGreene i read recently that talipia flesh may cause alzeimers disease so scientists say from a survey .have you heard or know anything about that .
aussiebluemax 1 year ago
@aussiebluemax
Google it. Tilapia is often included in diets as a TREATMENT for alzheimers.
Alacritous 1 year ago
@aussiebluemax - I haven't seen any papers on it and can't make an informed comment. My gut feeling is it comes down to how the fish are raised. I would be surprised if it was reproducible with fish raised in a low stress clean water environment with a quality feed.
It is my uninformed opinion that many Alzheimers patients are misdiagnosed and have Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. Ruminant bone meal is (was) a very common ingredient in fish feed and may be a vector for CJD.
Best of Luck.
ElizabethAGreene 1 year ago
@ElizabethAGreene you are awesome!!!!!!!!!! can you send me pics?
sexy52637 1 year ago
@ElizabethAGreene that sounds amazing, i know you commented a year ago on this video... but are u still doing that?
bakeee 1 year ago
This is a very clever design. Thanks GoodMagazine for showing me this.
Agric0la 3 years ago 2
Soylent Green is people...
eventide925 3 years ago
It can be made profitable, becuase of all the implications of transport and energy required currently for imports. This is also a way of saving water some of these systems may only lose 3%water as evaporation, the rest is taken up by the plants and fish. It has been done before but most commercial aquaculture does not do this very wasteful. Vegetarianism is great, however maybe eat less, and starving people causes wars, so solutions are needed unfortunately. Aus.
AqwaJ 3 years ago
This is not a radical new idea hell my high school builders team did the same thing for a competition they had sea bass in a giant vat with a filter system and grew grain, tomatos, oregano, and basil from the nutrients of the fish waste then they grilled the bass put the chopped tomatos and spices on top of it and they even made pasta and put their own sauce on it they won first place
VideoCre8 3 years ago
yeah its not a new idea.. I work in hydroponics and we get customers everyday buying equipment to set up aquaculture systems. I really like the sea bass and filtration idea man :).. freshwater fish would be easier and less costly to maintain.. But salt water fish generally are the tastiest :)
YouToobPresident 3 years ago
What is the maturation timescale of the fish you can do this with? How long from fertilization to harvest?
I gotta say, I'd be bummed to be one of those fish - looks boring.
crock703 3 years ago
their memory is shit...
every time they turn their head it's a new view
ycats1000 3 years ago
Well, all beings are unconsciously stimulated by environment in one way or another. Seems like higher fecal/bacteria presence and the density of fish in tanks would cause more anxiety/discomfort than some other situation less likely to inspire fight/flight response.)
seems like they're probably just swimming around, constantly surprised at how freaked they are.
crock703 3 years ago
Lack of memory probably means the effect of the the environment doesn't well up enough to make them 'depressed fishies," but the effect probably appears physically elsewhere in the animal -- physiological effects of increased adrenaline(?) or whatever hormones(?) released in response.
There is weird stuff about the chains of fat cells differing in farmed vs wild fish, and they don't really know why (maybe just breeding.) It does mean less healthy Omega 3 for their lucky dinner companions tho.
crock703 3 years ago
Less omega 3 because there food has less omega 3 in it.
drahm33 3 years ago
Really? What's the deal with the 'increased' omega 6, effect of diff food?
crock703 3 years ago
Brilliant! how much for a system? Do you think you could adapt this system to a salt water version?
speedsk8r010 3 years ago
The idea is to consume the fish as well as the plants produced. I guess you would need a fast growing tasty salt water plant, and it would be much more costly and difficult to control the onductivity levels due to eveporation :)
YouToobPresident 3 years ago
@speedsk8r010 This system can be used for ANY version. Hot, cold, fresh, salty, clear, murky, anything. He taught me that like last week.
Lugo428 1 year ago
this is a pretty cool idea but won't the people who make a living off of importing fish and sea food products complain due to lack of demand because of the local market?
OmgDiscoDied 3 years ago
That's the problem. Traditional fishing has basically depleted us of fish and other sea life so they're already getting hit pretty hard. They must adapt to a new system quick anyway because they're not going to survive as fishermen.
Gargess 3 years ago
The fact remains that more than 80% of US seafood is imported from overseas (along with their diseases and contamination). Our oceans cannot yield enough product to feed the masses as it is - and if the ocean yields a 1-2% decrease, that means hundreds of thousands of people will NOT HAVE PROTIEN IN THEIR DIET AT ALL. So aquaculture will not bankrupt the fishermen - only make more food, that is clean, local, and safe for us to eat. Aquaculture is the solution for the world food crisis.
onlinedesign 3 years ago
Why would a reduction of ocean yield deprive people entirely of protein? There are many other sources of protein besides fish.
arcusdog 3 years ago 2
they don't taste the same...
chasingcowboydust 3 years ago
lol AGGHHHHHH!!!!!, its really good
beanbag1985 3 years ago
Skip the fish---go vegetarian!
LeoHareMusic 3 years ago
dont go veg
people need to eat animals for population control
youtoobkid 3 years ago
Yeah I agree, people that eat factory farmed animals deserve to die from it!
bert3976 3 years ago
Free the fish!
RarewareLover 3 years ago
Imports are cheaper, I like your system but if you can't make it cheap and efficient than fuck you.
WatanukiProductions 3 years ago
I dont think I would be able to handle breeding fish only for people to eat them.
PockyEater101 3 years ago
also if your worried about the environment how about not having kids, and adopting one already on this planet.
ya19375 3 years ago
this feeds like 1% of ppl?
iamthe404 3 years ago
awsome cant wait to get my own house so i can live green
Swif41 3 years ago
MARTIN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! this guy is an example and hope for this f...* up planet!
danclim 3 years ago
huh hydroponic plants fed by the animals? wtf i want one in my basement. Oi guvalt
cruxbucket 3 years ago
If we continue to road we are on then this will not be an alternative but rather a last resort. Fingers crossed for some funding.
icecreamforlunch 3 years ago
I know. Marti is the greatest and that is why I know this will eventually become a reality. Yes, someone has to step up to the plate. Martin Schreibman will be the person to call if I find the way to finance this great cause.
Geo2495 3 years ago
Sometimes Fairytales just need to be funded and supported at a local level. Awesome video, thank you for opening us to this new alternative.
JonnaDW 3 years ago
Mr.Schreibman has done a great job of presenting the value and need of aquaculture in our present society. However, why has his dream not become a reality? Everything is there...even the space. New York City has many roofs that would be ideal for such a venture. I only hear Marti, but I don't see his actual involvement. What are you waiting for...the oceans to be depleted fully? Sounds like a great story but far from reality. Perhaps Disney is behind this fairy tale.
Geo2495 3 years ago