he smelled the fish an said "My son, this is another fish!"..in 1917 I had met him in Baghdad, without talking I kisses his hand, he took my hand and he had recognized me. In the Modi Hüzzam, Nihavend, Bestenigar, Sabâ, Hüseynî and Rast he have beatiful songs. His time of dead I couldn't found. ....."
I think that the photo's, with arabic letters, Uthman Al Musilli, is taken in Baghdad.
but unfortunately the Gazels belong to Sasi osman Efendi my brother.
i read that hafiz osman sasi may be a different person from musullu hafiz osman, but unfortunately, there isnt much information in Arabic here about their recordings in Istanbul, and even their voice sounds very similar to me. so I'm sure there is a mix up somewhere. the only way to make sure is to find an odeon catalogue from that time period so we can make sure.
they are the same person, i am almost sure, their is a radio broadcast show in Iraq, that speaking about him and giving the Isfahan Ghazel in the end, says also that he recorded with Tanburi Cemil Bey, all of the records mention "Sasi".........
Ibnul Emin Mahmoud Kemal bey says in his book: "...Musili, had his personal Kanun style, he had beautiful dua and Hutbah improvusations, in Çemberlitas (istanbul) he had a bookshop, there he had meetings with musicians. in Incir Köyü we had once a week meetings, there we eat and do music conversations and play music, Musilli osman participated with his Kanun, onetime he was late, everybody had 'Pisi" fish on his plate, but wen he come it was finish, Osman got another fish, a "Uskumru",
this is a very wrong information and a big mistake in the name of the Gazelhan Haffiz Sasi Osman Efendi, in many internetsites comes his name over as "Uthman al Musili (Musullu Hafiz Sasi Osman Efendi)".. first of all Musullu and Sasi are different persons, like i say before, the gazels, Ussak, Isfahan, Acem Kizi, belongs to Hafiz Sasi Osman Efendi, Not Mussullu Hafiz Osman, Sasi is diffirent, Musili is Diffirent, Sasi is famious with that gazel, and Musilli has another background
correction to your info: he was born in mosul in 1853. he bcame blind because of smallpox. traveled to baghdad in the 1870s then to syria and egypt and stayed many years in istanbul between 1905 and 1912 as recitor for the ottoman court and he taught many turkish singers the iraqi gazel and maqam style of mosul. he has at least 2 records with tanburi cemil. he was blind and played qanun, ney, tabla and daf. his teachers were iraqis from baghdad, im sure u r mixing him up with another osman.
They are the same person. I have three cylinder recordings of him in Arabic recorded in Iraq (1895-1905) and it is the same voice and style. Ask people who know about it and please don't troll my videos and type stuff without research. There is another Hafiz Osman but he was younger than Mulla Uthman and had a much different voice.
first you can hear how the accent is, its a pure clearly Istanbul-accent, he sing it in Turkish its a "Gazel" what we call
and second, these record are from the albums of the great Musician Tanburi Cemil Bey
if you read his life, you can see that Cemil Bey also had worked with hafiz Sasi Osman efendi, Sasi means Squint-eyed, you can see the name of Sasi Osman efendi at the musiclist, Acem Kizi, Isfahan Gazel, Ussak Gazel, Cifte Telli, is of Sasi Osman Efendi
In the book "Hos Sadâ" witch means Beatiful Sound" of Ibnul Emin Mahmoud Kemal Bey (1870-1957), the book is about biograpy's of musicians, composers since 1750 until 1918, there you can read the life of Uthman Al Musili, he was born in 1840, he was getting blind because of his foster mother, his theachers was zekai Dede, Bolahenk Nuri Bey and the Mawlawi sheikh of the Bahariye zawiye Houssein Fahraddin Dede, you can see at the picture Osman wearing a Mawlawi Turban;)
Thanks for your information. Where can I find this book you mention? I have several books and articles in Arabic about his life. My information is directly from students of students of Mulla Uthman who are still alive in Iraq. He composed many famous Iraqi and Turkish songs. Some of his melodies from religioius muwashah are still being played as "folk songs" and "Turkish songs" in Balkan countries and some compositions are now attributed to others (such as sayid darwish).
Ok, brothers you are probably right but this singing and style isn't for sure Arabic. I love Arabic musiv by the way Umm Kulthum and other masters but I love this hafiz as a great singer of Turkish classical style and music. We also have great singers and players of origin Greek, Armenia, Jew. They didn't emphasize where they were from when they were playing music. Seperation is the invention of last century unfortunately.
I don't want to emphasize any kind of nationalism or something but how do you know he is Iraqi since he has a good Turkish accent and style? Do you have any documents (written or spoken)? Just curious?
come here to mosul and I'll take you to his house and the school that he graduated from lol what you write about othman al mosuli is just something makes me lough.. and the reason that he sings Turkish songs because at that time the othmani empire has a big influence on the culture and education even now still lots of ppl loves Turkish music and singing Turkish and i think anyone can sing Turkish doesn't mean he is Turkish. Ibrahim sings turkish and he is not Turkish same with mahsun..
His life is well known. He hailed from a prominent Iraqi Arab family in Mosul, and he only travelled to Turkey later in his life. Also, many subjects of the Ottoman state spoke Turkish fluently because it was the only language allowed in public education at the time by the authorities.
Ok brothers, you are probably right. But what he is singing isn't for sure Arabic music and style. (I love Arabic music by the way, Umm Kulthum and other great masters all the way.) We also have great singers and players who are of origin Armenia, Greece, Arabic and Turkish. I know and respect and like him very much as a great player of Turkish classical music. No offense ... Selam Aleykum...
Good argument but we were all part of the Turkish Ottoman empire nationalaties didn't matter I remeber seeing the last of the mavlavi darvishes in Cairo were they Egyptian or Turks that didn't matter till the 50s almost
he smelled the fish an said "My son, this is another fish!"..in 1917 I had met him in Baghdad, without talking I kisses his hand, he took my hand and he had recognized me. In the Modi Hüzzam, Nihavend, Bestenigar, Sabâ, Hüseynî and Rast he have beatiful songs. His time of dead I couldn't found. ....."
I think that the photo's, with arabic letters, Uthman Al Musilli, is taken in Baghdad.
but unfortunately the Gazels belong to Sasi osman Efendi my brother.
do you have listnen Hafiz Sami?
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
@friendsofmehdi
i read that hafiz osman sasi may be a different person from musullu hafiz osman, but unfortunately, there isnt much information in Arabic here about their recordings in Istanbul, and even their voice sounds very similar to me. so I'm sure there is a mix up somewhere. the only way to make sure is to find an odeon catalogue from that time period so we can make sure.
IraqiMaqam 1 year ago
@IraqiMaqam
they are the same person, i am almost sure, their is a radio broadcast show in Iraq, that speaking about him and giving the Isfahan Ghazel in the end, says also that he recorded with Tanburi Cemil Bey, all of the records mention "Sasi".........
mousaking21 1 year ago
Ibnul Emin Mahmoud Kemal bey says in his book: "...Musili, had his personal Kanun style, he had beautiful dua and Hutbah improvusations, in Çemberlitas (istanbul) he had a bookshop, there he had meetings with musicians. in Incir Köyü we had once a week meetings, there we eat and do music conversations and play music, Musilli osman participated with his Kanun, onetime he was late, everybody had 'Pisi" fish on his plate, but wen he come it was finish, Osman got another fish, a "Uskumru",
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
my brother
this is a very wrong information and a big mistake in the name of the Gazelhan Haffiz Sasi Osman Efendi, in many internetsites comes his name over as "Uthman al Musili (Musullu Hafiz Sasi Osman Efendi)".. first of all Musullu and Sasi are different persons, like i say before, the gazels, Ussak, Isfahan, Acem Kizi, belongs to Hafiz Sasi Osman Efendi, Not Mussullu Hafiz Osman, Sasi is diffirent, Musili is Diffirent, Sasi is famious with that gazel, and Musilli has another background
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
correction to your info: he was born in mosul in 1853. he bcame blind because of smallpox. traveled to baghdad in the 1870s then to syria and egypt and stayed many years in istanbul between 1905 and 1912 as recitor for the ottoman court and he taught many turkish singers the iraqi gazel and maqam style of mosul. he has at least 2 records with tanburi cemil. he was blind and played qanun, ney, tabla and daf. his teachers were iraqis from baghdad, im sure u r mixing him up with another osman.
IraqiMaqam 1 year ago
The Singer Is Hafiz Sasi Osman Efendi
but the pictures is of Musullu Hafiz osman Efendi, he was blind
he played Kanun
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
@friendsofmehdi
They are the same person. I have three cylinder recordings of him in Arabic recorded in Iraq (1895-1905) and it is the same voice and style. Ask people who know about it and please don't troll my videos and type stuff without research. There is another Hafiz Osman but he was younger than Mulla Uthman and had a much different voice.
IraqiMaqam 1 year ago
@IraqiMaqam
my friend
first you can hear how the accent is, its a pure clearly Istanbul-accent, he sing it in Turkish its a "Gazel" what we call
and second, these record are from the albums of the great Musician Tanburi Cemil Bey
if you read his life, you can see that Cemil Bey also had worked with hafiz Sasi Osman efendi, Sasi means Squint-eyed, you can see the name of Sasi Osman efendi at the musiclist, Acem Kizi, Isfahan Gazel, Ussak Gazel, Cifte Telli, is of Sasi Osman Efendi
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
@IraqiMaqam
In the book "Hos Sadâ" witch means Beatiful Sound" of Ibnul Emin Mahmoud Kemal Bey (1870-1957), the book is about biograpy's of musicians, composers since 1750 until 1918, there you can read the life of Uthman Al Musili, he was born in 1840, he was getting blind because of his foster mother, his theachers was zekai Dede, Bolahenk Nuri Bey and the Mawlawi sheikh of the Bahariye zawiye Houssein Fahraddin Dede, you can see at the picture Osman wearing a Mawlawi Turban;)
friendsofmehdi 1 year ago
@friendsofmehdi
Thanks for your information. Where can I find this book you mention? I have several books and articles in Arabic about his life. My information is directly from students of students of Mulla Uthman who are still alive in Iraq. He composed many famous Iraqi and Turkish songs. Some of his melodies from religioius muwashah are still being played as "folk songs" and "Turkish songs" in Balkan countries and some compositions are now attributed to others (such as sayid darwish).
IraqiMaqam 1 year ago
Hafız Şaşı Osman, great gazelhan. He was usualy work with Tanburi Cemil Bey. Also check Hafız Sami.
sercos72 1 year ago
translations plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11azazel23 1 year ago
الله معك الى الأبد!
FUNERALBIZARRE 1 year ago
اول صورة النسخة النسخة الاصلية عد عمتي
iraqisun 2 years ago
ماشء الله :))) والله لك الشرف :) انت محظوظ لإمتلاكها
m6alle3 2 years ago
wala he brought tears to my eyes
nashpola 2 years ago
i think that Mulla Uthman Al Mousili, is probebly one of the most underated singer and compuser in the Arab world. and even in Iraq, exept Mosul.
he compused dozens of popular songs and gave a lot of influence to the Iraqi, Arab and even the Turkish music.
in Turkey their is stil video of Classic music that give him a cradit with the name Musullu Sasi Othman Efendi....
mousaking21 2 years ago
Are you sure this is Mulla 'Uthman al-Musili singing?! How was that this recording from 1920 is so clear?!!
abuhm 2 years ago
It's a remastered 7" disk recorded in Istanbul between 1910 and 1920. Check the other videos of Mulla Uthman. Not all are this clear.
IraqiMaqam 2 years ago
Thanks replying my question. Now I can hear this amazing recording for Uthman al-Musili with no doubts.
I have checked out all of his recordings available in youtube but as opposed to the others this one was extremely clear.
Anyway, Uthman al-Musili is GREAT musician and singer.
abuhm 2 years ago
Absolutely agree. And these are very rare recordings that nobody knew existed until recently.
IraqiMaqam 2 years ago
Ok, brothers you are probably right but this singing and style isn't for sure Arabic. I love Arabic musiv by the way Umm Kulthum and other masters but I love this hafiz as a great singer of Turkish classical style and music. We also have great singers and players of origin Greek, Armenia, Jew. They didn't emphasize where they were from when they were playing music. Seperation is the invention of last century unfortunately.
No offense, selam aleykum...
Dogan979 2 years ago
I don't want to emphasize any kind of nationalism or something but how do you know he is Iraqi since he has a good Turkish accent and style? Do you have any documents (written or spoken)? Just curious?
Dogan979 2 years ago
couse he lived in the Uthman Empire, they leared turkish in all ..
he lived in istanbull for long time.
mousaking21 2 years ago
come here to mosul and I'll take you to his house and the school that he graduated from lol what you write about othman al mosuli is just something makes me lough.. and the reason that he sings Turkish songs because at that time the othmani empire has a big influence on the culture and education even now still lots of ppl loves Turkish music and singing Turkish and i think anyone can sing Turkish doesn't mean he is Turkish. Ibrahim sings turkish and he is not Turkish same with mahsun..
hardyrzgar 2 years ago
His life is well known. He hailed from a prominent Iraqi Arab family in Mosul, and he only travelled to Turkey later in his life. Also, many subjects of the Ottoman state spoke Turkish fluently because it was the only language allowed in public education at the time by the authorities.
IraqiMaqam 2 years ago
Ok brothers, you are probably right. But what he is singing isn't for sure Arabic music and style. (I love Arabic music by the way, Umm Kulthum and other great masters all the way.) We also have great singers and players who are of origin Armenia, Greece, Arabic and Turkish. I know and respect and like him very much as a great player of Turkish classical music. No offense ... Selam Aleykum...
Dogan979 2 years ago
Um Kulthum type of style was classic arabic.
Mulla Uthman was a Sufi Reader of Iraqi Maqam, Turkish Ghazels, Tanzila and more religous types of style.
i will upload some of his ghazels records with the iraqi broadcasts.
mousaking21 2 years ago
Good argument but we were all part of the Turkish Ottoman empire nationalaties didn't matter I remeber seeing the last of the mavlavi darvishes in Cairo were they Egyptian or Turks that didn't matter till the 50s almost
elghazoli 1 year ago
what a voice he has
i cant stop to hear this Gazel
mousaking21 2 years ago
beautiful ma shaa Allah
nayoud1 2 years ago
He is playing the qanoon and singing simultaneously!
talalrahman 2 years ago
This is unbelievable! A real treasure!
Thank you Ustadh for this pearl!
Talal
talalrahman 2 years ago
5 نجوم
shaalan1408 2 years ago
شكرا اخي على التقييم
IraqiMaqam 2 years ago
wow !!
amazing
thanks
mousaking21 2 years ago
I'm glad you liked it. Enjoy!
IraqiMaqam 2 years ago