@gregrutz Are you kidding me? The time scale of the Earth was changed to FIT the Evolutionary theory of how the live on Earth began and evolved. Charles Darwin was a Christian himself, but became futile towards his religion when his daughter died. Clearly! He were experiencing emotional problems which made him attempt to remove God from his theory. During the Modernistic movements, these fallacies became truth.
The web site talkorigins addresses the problem with finding carbon 14 in coal as possible fungi and bacteria contamination. However they admit this is a hypothesis and “research is ongoing.” The talkorigins article was from 2002, so has there been any progress, or is “research is ongoing” the only answer?
Burn the gospel of lunacy, my ritual has begun. Bathe in the darkness, it is Satan's creation. For life eternal in the demon's lodge. Burn the book of lies with flames. Choose the darkened spiraling path. Unholy world of doom and gloom awaits. Breath of demons soon flow. Darkness in your soul for all time. A gathering storm in a shadowy realm. Black clouds boiling in the sky. Signed in the shrine of blood 'n fear. The diabolical temple of hell. Satan's feet mark the ground.
Re:20:2: And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,Re:20:3: And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
@TheDarkLordLucifer Re:20:10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. WE WIN !
@TheDarkLordLucifer There is no life eternal in the demons lounge. Its the eternal lake of fire and you shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. How stupid can someone be to worship satan. He may offer you gain or riches in life but its not worth your soul. Life is so short. eternity is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
Embrace me darkened one, strengthen my soul. Spew thy darkness into our world. And through the rotting gates heaven. Shadowy wisps will heal my wounds. Shadowy wisps will wound their prayers. Send me the loving peace of Lucifer. Send me the battered pieces of jesus christ. It is now time, we begin to move forward. Hordes of terror are waiting to strike them. Following a great leader into his war. With hoofs of steel, he'll crush thy body. You will give in to the might of Satan.
@TheDarkLordLucifer you are praying to the wrong person. Satan does not give love nor peace. I read the end of the book and know how it turns out. I hope you would open your mind and truly think things through. God does not want anyone to to be cast in the lake of fire, that is why the Bible says that He waits for people to reent and turn to him because, He loves you so much that He sent His Son to take the punishment for all of our sins. It's free, all you have to do is accept salvation.
Darkened powers caressing my mind. In my unveiling, a body of shade. My heart, his infernal tongue. Blasphemous rituals lead the way to Lucifer. We adore the work of the devil. On the path of evil incarnation. He is below and above you. His life is ecstasy in yours. Under the inverted cross of the lord. See your soul in the black dimension. Pray to the weak gods of infinity. Your shattered prayers are forgotten. You are a stranger to our champion. I will lead you to the throne of Old Nick.
@TheDarkLordLucifer Hi. Is this a self-written poem or what? And what is it's meaning/purpose? I'm curious because I've seen you post it several times.
Burn the gospel of lunacy, my ritual has begun. Bathe in the darkness, it is Satan's creation. For life eternal in the demon's lodge. Burn the book of lies with flames. Choose the darkened spiraling path. Unholy world of doom and gloom awaits. Breath of demons soon flow. Darkness in your soul for all time. A gathering storm in a shadowy realm. Black clouds boiling in the sky. Signed in the shrine of blood 'n fear. The diabolical temple of hell. Satan's feet mark the ground.
humans are not intelligent enough yet to ponder our origins. lets wait for ET to tell us the story of life and the universe. meanwhile to each his own, believe whatever you want to, evolution or creationism both are unprovable theories.
@hanlee666 The fact is that evolution has all the facts on its side, whilst creationism doesn't. That's like saying that gravity and the theory that angels pin you down to the floor are equally viable theories, given that they cannot be proven conclusively either way
@williamstdog9 If there was any evidence at all, people would be publishing in respectable peer review, scientific journals about intelligent design, yet that has not ever come to pass. They do all this screaming about being right but they never put their money where their mouth is!
@irishbarrycooper Phylogenetics, the fossil record, comparative anatomy, radiometric dating, ERVs etc along with tons of other stuff. Just ask any university biology lecturer and they will explain very thoroughly and convince you through logic and evidence that evolution is the only rational theory out there
@TheGamanic I asked for your best evidence, not how you may try to find evidence or just naming scientific techniques. Just tell me one piece of concrete evidence. Considering you seem to know a lot about your religion, oops sorry i mean evolution it shouldn't be hard to give one example.
@irishbarrycooper I guess I would say that would it be the fact that all those separate disciplines of science fit together to give a coherent picture of world history which is only explicable through evolution. For example the fossil record fits perfectly with genetic differences. This cannot be explained by biblical creation without resorting to ridiculous explanations, which you no doubt believe in
@TheGamanic that depends on how indoctrinated a person is in evolution. I truly believe if you or any other person would honestly think through both scientific evidences for evolution and creation, instead of being closed minded to the creation evidences, you will see that the evidences for creation is a lot more viable. It's a lot more scientific and not as conjectural. as evolution is. the RATE project predicted correctly as to where the graph would fall before they got the results back.
@AndyG792 It's not about indocrination, it's about fact! Unfortunately creationists can't come to deal with that and so have to come with this plot that everyone is being brainwashed by someone into evolution. Quite frankly, don't you think it is odd that you, an uneducated person in this area believes in this theory, whilst all the experts another? Creation has no scientific basis whatsoever, hence why no scientific paper have been written on it EVER.
Hey, Berean Beacon, I have a question. If god is nice then why does the bible say "When a man strikes his male or female slave that the slave die sunder his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property -Exodus 21:20-21"?
@TheGeneralBurn God is not "nice", but corrects those that require it. The man would have been punished if death resulted, if not then the man lost several days of labor (money) because of his unnecessary severity. God always warned his people about sin and what he would do to them if they didn't stop. Now to learn about the free gift of God and his love for all, listen here.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
@raponte1955 WTF? No one made the assumption that evolution is true, it was proven with facts. Geologists proved the earth is old with facts. Geologists proved there was never a global flood with facts.
That's right, BBbrain, you take refuge in your book of words.That'll make those troublesome thoughts go away. You don't want to think, BB, there's dangers in thinking. If you let yourself think about it, before you know what you're doing, you'll be asking how God can be true and be sending people delusions at the same time.
So keep on regurgitating the texts, BB. They'll be sure to make you feel better.
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Corinthiians 2:9,10
@opmike343 People are converted by the words of God, that is to say, first they didn't believe, then if interested, God did this for them.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
Lovely quote from Thessalonians, there, BB. Says that God sends the delusion, (that is, He's a liar) and then sends us all to Hell for believing it. Nice guy you worship.
@puffin51 When people want a reason to reject him (God), he is very accommodating and provides many delusions that will keep them on the broad way to destruction. All the false religions provide their own vehicles of destruction by imposing invented laws to keep their people in bondage. To really understand a true Christian position listen to this and then comment on it.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
So you admit your God deludes people - that He's a liar. And after Jesus told you who was the father of lies, too. This explains a lot about you, BB. Your own delusional state, for instance.
@puffin51 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Romans 3:3,4
That last might as well be spam. It's a canned screed, always the same, that this loon puts up whenever anyone tells the truth on one of his nutbar little videos.
@puffin51 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thessalonians 2:7-12
@puffin51 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Ever wonder why their "cutting edge" RATE research isn't presented at an international Physics conference? Because It is fabrication, falsification, and academic dishonesty to the highest degree. A Physics undergraduate student could debunk it. That is why they present their rubbish at fundamentalist churches and "Creatard" conferences. The people attending are scientifically illiterate and will believe whatever they are told without any scrutinization.
@jknengr796 All evolutionists have is hot air on the mostly anonymous Internet. We have the real science backed up by the $10,000 Life Science Prize. You can evolve from a chicken and win the prize or make cowardly remarks on websites until you ultimately die and become a creationists after it's too late. My last remark to you is something that everyone understands: CLUCK, CLUCK
You are starting thinking that you know the answer and are selecting evidence to prove your "truth". Your bizarro reverse "science" will never trump the tried-and-true method of the scientific method. You could use the creationist way of doing "science" to "prove" nearly anything.
@BereanBeacon1 Evolution has been heavily supported by the scientific method; it is real science with lots of evidence. If you believe that is "science fiction", you are a hypocrite for using a computer and living in a house. Look for evidence from people who aren't predisposed to any position.
@Blarghonius Again, real science is fine, but something exploding from nothing and non living chemicals coming alive and here we are is science fiction. Evolutionists won't debate because they know they will lose. Present evidence that a computer was produced by real science and you will win. Present scientific evidence that evolution is a fact (such what produced a computer) and you will win.
@BereanBeacon1 Evolution does not concern the origins of the universe; that is cosmogony. Evolution does not concern the origins of life: that is abiogenesis. I watch videos like these to learn what creationism is so I can form opinions on it and be knowledgeable about the subject. You should do the same: study evolution and learn what it actually is instead of going on your preconceived notions.
Carl never said ''Billions and Billions''. Really, watch the show again. He used the word 'billions' a lot because the universe is billions of years old and there are billions of stars.
These people don't deserve to call themselves "scientists." No scientist sets out to prove a preconceived notion and tosses out all data that doesn't reflect this notion. This completely violates both the scientific method and the philosophy of science.
I don't understand...I was raised Lutheran and the Bible repeatedly admonishes against lying. It's one of the Ten Commandments.
Yet this is exactly what the RATE team is doing...lying. Their "findings" are nothing more than baldfaced lies.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
@PeiperJ2 if you examined the truth and managed to think on your own and not waste your time on meaningless theory's. aka the big bang. you would see there is plenty of truth out there and it does not speak loudly in the scientific community or in the public school system. many Scientist have been wrongfully black listed because they have proven creation time and time again with cold hard facts. get with it man...
@melaniedhall2 products of science the phone, PC, toilets, fridge in your home etc etc
products of creation science ................................................................................................nada
people blacklisted because they have "Proven" creation with stone cold fact .....0
And just in case, there is no conspiracy against creation science papers being submitted for peer review, they just do not get trough the proces because they do not meet scientific standards
@Toudiyama Gravity was discovered by Creationists (Isaac Newton), also that bigger things do not necessarily fall faster than small things (Galileo Galilee), that the earth is not flat (also Galileo Galilee) and the mechanism from work to heat (James Prescott Joule). You say something like that creation is against science, which is not true. Science is indeed very good, it has disproved evolution just fine, but theses atheists don't want to admit that.
@eagleeye2102 they might have believed in a god but they were no creation scientist, they were scientist who believed in a creation, which wasa pitty as that kept Newton from developing a theory of gravity
Gallileo Gallilei did not find the earth was round the greeks did that way before him, he did have the heritic idea that the earth was not the center of it all
where are the scientific peer reviewed papers disproving evolution? and the 13.7 billion year old universe?
@eagleeye2102 the thing you mentioned weren't the products of creationism, it was despite creationism or it did not have any influence at all
we don't see scientist reading the bible in search for scientific predictions and coming up with the discoveries and inventions. I do not say creation sciense is against science, I say it is not science, if the evidence disproves the premise, reject the premise, not reject the evidence, like YECs do
@Toudiyama it's creation, not creationism. Well, science itself is descended from the Christian religion which also includes Creation. But I understand what you mean, Creation is not part of science but creationists did never claim to be it. Creation science means the research for scientific evidence which supports Creation and contradicts Evolution. Once again, creationists don't claim to be part of science nor do we want Creation in school, we simply want religion -Evolution- out of science.
@eagleeye2102 "Creation is not part of science but creationists did never claim to be it. Creation science means the research for scientific evidence which supports Creation and contradicts Evolution"
You got to be kidding, this is a shinning example of "words mean what I want them to mean"
the ID trials have shown that they tried to get creation in the schools. last they do not just want evolution out of science but anything showing an old earth or universe
@eagleeye2102 creation science means the search for materials from real researchers and editing it such that it apears to say the opposite of what the author meant.
it is targeted at lay people that have had little to no science education.
Strawmanning real science and then rediculing that and coming up with half asses hypothesis that explain much less than the theories they try to explain
@Toudiyama Why do then so many scientists believe in Creation rather than Evolution? Why does then so much evidence support Creation? Why do then evolutionists use so many lies to support their theory? Because low educated stupid people believe in Creation? I don't think so!
There have surely been some people who tried to get Creation into the school, but this is wrong, they shouldn't have done so. But no, I for instance do not want Creation nor Evolution in science classes.
@eagleeye2102 1) because no scientist would "believe" in evolution, they accept it
2) like what I haven't seen any evidence that can best be explained with creation
3) Again like what, which lies are you talking about?
4) there surely have been? Sorry but the people behind the wedge document are still attempting to do so
5) if evolution isn't science, it should be easy to write paper about why it is not and get it published in a peer reviewed paper after being reviewed
@Toudiyama Well, there is no evidence that an animal can change one of its body parts, for instance its fins to non-fins. Evolutionists say so, they say that some fish type animals evolved their fins into non-fins; legs. There is no proof for that, so why do we have to learn this stuff in school? Evolution uses lies like embryology, the whale evolution, the horse evolution, etc. The teachers, in our school, still teach this stuff.
@Toudiyama Yes but there isn't even evidence that the fish developed non-fins over time. There is only this theory, this hypotheses which is called Evolution which says so, but the evidence itself says the contrary. So because there isn't evidence you simply say that I don't understand the evidence, but this isn't how science works, show me some evidence.
@Toudiyama Well if there are people who try to get Creation into the school then it's because they know that evolution is no fact, so if we can teach a non-fact in schools then we can also teach religions like Creation in school. Either both or none.
Evolution is still science because most scientists don't understand that little changes over time don't change, for instance, fins into non-fens. Sure big changes happen, but not new creations! Evolution is really not science.
18:06 , God provided the money for research, God provided the answers that they were looking for, but God was fucked if he could make the projector work.
The trouble with this video can be traced to the unstated axioms: The Bible is a divine dictation, infallible and literal. Once these assumptions have been discarded, there is no a longer a need to come up with twisted and tortured arguments in an attempt to promote the absurd and exhaustively discredited assertion that the Earth is only a few thousand years old.
What is a day to GOD? Is it one rotation of the Earth? Is it one revolution of the Earth around the sun? Is it one galatic day? Is it one galatic year? Is it longer? How are we to concive such a dimention from the perspective of GOD, the Creator: the Alpha, the Omaga. GOD, who percieves time as a whole and is every when and then and now...
There are numberous conditions which can alter the sample durring and after formation, just as with carbin-14 dateing: how much is unknown...
Anyone that brings scripture (The bible in whatever form) clearly demonstrates they have bias. Ancient literature has nothing to do with archeological, biological, or any scientific discoveries.
@bttrflykiss7701 In a scientific debate religion is not necessary. Evolutionist always use that straw man argument to avoid a scientific controlled debate in a public forum because they know they will lose. Bring your "facts" to The Life Science Prize and be the hero of evolution.
@BereanBeacon1 What? I absolutely think that religion is of no use in a debate that is centered around scientific research. I have no attachment to evolution... I can just identify when people are trying to discredit something by way of biased information (i.e. the mention of an ancient text over and over again).
There is no one called creationist as just to believe a story of a week long program of creation by the god one doesn't need of a full brain, but just brain stem will do the job. Whereas to understand modern science one need a fully grown human brain, because it is the accumulation of human knowledge of the last 20 thousand years.
so they did a "scientific study" to find a young-earth alternative. They came up with a conclusion, and tried to find evidence to support it. As anyone who's done a 6th-grade science project will tell you, that's the opposite of science
@richard4president actually Darwin came to a conclusion which was based on the evidence. Do you see the difference between making a conclusion based on the evidence you find and inventing a conclusion and then only looking at that evidence which supports it? Because that's what creationists do. The answer was written 2000 years ago, so ignore all the discoveries we've made since then.
@yablebab Actually I was thinking that's what darwinian scientist did. Anything that is found that doesn't fit darwinism, they ignore and pretend it never happened. Real science isn't sticking your pathetic little heads in the sand. See the difference?
@bttrflykiss7701 a moron i may be. however you never happened to share you knowledge with me. If the earth is billions of years old why is it only 2011 .... Can you tell me please?
Geologists went looking for evidence of a global flood over 200 years ago. They did not find any.
They found distinct layers of different kinds of rock with different fossil in them. Floods don't do that. They discovered it must have taken millions of years to make what we see. The knew it was millions of years old before radiometric dating showed it was Billions of years old.
They want to be respected and called Christians yet all they do is lie. They disort and manipulate and have been shown over and over to be frauds on this issue.
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature(creation) more than the Creator
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
im sorry, i didnt pay attention to much of what was said, so anything i say about it would be kind of off topic...he does remind me of an actor from the 80s though.. i think it was the dad from e.t.
google "Albert Renshaw" and travel to his physics website... read the article found in the section titled, 'old universe' then you will find out how old the universe really is.
@jason1973tl The earth is round!, the bible clearly ststes this in Job 35:38, and the roundness of the earth, not flat, Bible also speaks of radio waves, "and God said you will send their voices in lightings so that they may be heard in the far kindom,
ohh man its stupid that i believed the big bang and stuff because they showed it to me @ school (on a christian school?) ghanyways i know better now :D
for ppl who do not believe in God ill pray for you :D
@Calypsis4 Get this through your head, the target audience of this "research" is not other scientists, but young earth believers. The young earth creation science community has been trained to accept the words of young earth creation scientists, without question. To question a young earth scientist's work is equivalent to mutiny...it just isn't done.
Upon reviewing some of their work, they did not use "independent labs", they didn't site sources, and they were dishonest beyond reproach.
@joelkness You said 'Upon reviewing some of their work, they did not use "independent labs", they didn't site sources, and they were dishonest beyond reproach.' REALLY? Would you care to debate some of the data? You may want to take a quick look at some of my comments on a thread to a PhD nuclear physicist regarding RATE's work before you start casting ignorant aspirations:
@Calypsis4 Normally, scientific research of this magnitude, especially considering that it supposedly disproves radiometric dating, would be released through peer-reviewed journals. If it really is scientifically sound, the young earth researchers should release it in the normal manner, and their results would truly rock the scientific world. Why do you suppose they did not attempt to release it via peer review? Much of their work was conducted via unethical means with religious bias.
Calypsis4: You've convinced me. The earth is a flat circle supported by 4 pillars lying in the center of the Universe with the sun revolving around it. Rain falls through from windows in the heavenly firmament. I am descended from Noah and the English I speak arose from the Tower of Babel.
There is nothing repeatable in the data they mis-produced. At least I have the background to review their questionable work. You don't. You just parrot the crap they tell you and believe it.
Where does the Bible say the earth is flat? Concerning the pillars...how can you ascertain that which is invisible and how do such pillars function?
That's right; you are descended from Noah and the English you speak eventually descended from the Tower of Bable. No apologies.
You should have listened more closely to the evidence Dr. Vardiman gave you in the video clip. But bigoted evolutionists don't like facts that counter their beliefs.
@Kirkwhisper Where does the Bible say the earth is flat? All refer to the "flatness", ends or circle of the earth. Isaiah 11:12 , Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13 , Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Matthew 4:8, Isaiah 40:22. There are more.
Descended from Noah and "Tower of Babel". - LMAO
Vardiman's "work" has been shown to be a fraud. If it was so groundbreaking, they would have it published. However, due to the fraudulent nature of this work, it can only be peddled in fundamentalist churches.
@jknengr796 I looked up the Bible verses you noted, not one of them states the earth to be flat! one talkes about the fore corners, but thats seriously reaching. another talks about the end of the earth but its referring to the sky? as a matter of fact it really says Job 26:7" He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." which no one in that time could have conceived of. I suspect all you criticism to be the true fraud.
@eshb4u That is some real "science" referring to the 4 corners of the earth, the pillars of the earth, the 4 winds, the circle of the earth. I can easily go on. It doesn't say "sphere" and it doesn't in any translation. Creationists want to be literal, then take it as such instead of picking what is literal and what maybe isn't and trying to fit it to your preconceived brainwashing. You're the fraud.
joe: They already did but you do not care what the quality of their evidence is or even the fact that independent secular labs reproduced the same results. It is useless to communicate with someone who will not accept the data. The only 'lie' here is your opinions as opposed to the documented facts that R.A.T.E. and the independent sources have provided us.
I don't care what kind of education you claim to have. The R.A.T.E. analysis was verified by a number of different labs and there isn't anything you can do about it. Not only so but other independent sources came up with much the same results.
Your bigotry is really showing, fella. I'm not impressed.
Scripture (Genesis) is not a guess; it is God's Word. I believe it because I have seen the power of it and so have many of my companions. You're only giving opinions.
@Calypsis4 Like I said, these clowns need to "put up or shut up". Independent labs by ass. You should say Independent "creationist labs". You are repeating their lie.
At least my "opinions" are based on sound scientific practices and principles backed up by many years of research, data collection and the like.
Yours are based on a particular interpretation of the Old Testament Genesis story. Long since accepted as faith based myth stories some of which was taken from other cultures.
I find it sad that some people have twisted the Bible to their personal gain. And people follow these "evangelists" like sheep. It is insulting to me as a Christian to see people make fools out of themselves by bearing false witness the way they do.
Being Christian means accepting the Lord Jesus as your personal savior. That's it! Not parroting all this garbage for Jesus sake, forcing it on others, turning people away and ticking them off. That is what these people do.
joe: Because peer reviews in the secular world are controlled by bigoted individuals like you who refuse to consider evidence against their views, that's why.
You aren't talking 'real science' you are talking guesswork becaus that is what evolution is...a big guess. Not a good one either.
You and your Darwinian crony buddies are the dishonest ones. You won't even look at the independent sources that verified their conclusions. It makes me sick.
Any "real" scientific work must withstand scrutiny. Theirs is not, which is the reason it is laughed at. Astrology is not Astronomy, Alchemy is not Chemistry, Magic is not Physics, Aliens didn't build the Pyramids, and Creationism is NOT science. The "independent sources" cited are other creationist quote mines and pseudoscience from other creationists. The 7 "Ph.D."'s cited by Vardiman have a history of academic dishonesty and dubious credentials.
@Calypsis4 If I didn't have an education in the sciences or know anything about dating techniques, I may be wowed by his presentation also. That is what they count on. Fortunately, I have done radioactive decay experiments, and there are real experts in the various fields of study that can scrutinize this work for the sham it is.
As far as evolution being a "guess", the scientific process would have discovered that man originated from dirt in 4004 bc if that was indeed the case.
joe: I'll say it forthrightly - you don't know what you're talking about. Calypsis4 is NOT the author of the information: R.A.T.E. is...and those experts know EXACTLY what they are talking about and their findings have been verified by several independent sources. I am the one laughing at you. You don't care what the evidence really tells us. See you on judgment day.
people are so quick to push God away, it truly breaks my heart. if only they knew that God is love, believing in God is trusting in love. you see the Father is a spirit, and they who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
we all hold a spirit in our hearts, just as God has a spirit. you cannot draw over the fact that we have live souls, and it takes life to make life (as observed by all creation, mother gives birth to child. it all started we we're given life by the father) its a natural process.
anyone can look at animals, and find that we are in a catogory all of our own; animals are seperate from us. Look upon Jesus and find one guilt, for he to be charged? there is none. therefore just as the pharisee's of his time, you charge an innocent man with false accussations. worthy is the lamb who was slain, worthy is the sacrifice that cleansed all of us.
RATE Group assumes the rate of radioactive decay changed to fit the bible. LOL
Carl NEVER say ''billions and billions'' Stop making shit up.
gregrutz 3 weeks ago
@gregrutz Are you kidding me? The time scale of the Earth was changed to FIT the Evolutionary theory of how the live on Earth began and evolved. Charles Darwin was a Christian himself, but became futile towards his religion when his daughter died. Clearly! He were experiencing emotional problems which made him attempt to remove God from his theory. During the Modernistic movements, these fallacies became truth.
MrVirtualCoder 2 weeks ago
@MrVirtualCoder Darwin's daughter died so that helped him make a great discovery ?!?
''Are you kidding me''?
The time scale of the earth is defined by the fossil record.
The K-T boundry is defined by the extinction event, whenever it was.
The Age of the Dinosaurs is when the dinosaurs live, is that too hard for you to understand.
gregrutz 2 weeks ago
The web site talkorigins addresses the problem with finding carbon 14 in coal as possible fungi and bacteria contamination. However they admit this is a hypothesis and “research is ongoing.” The talkorigins article was from 2002, so has there been any progress, or is “research is ongoing” the only answer?
Entropy56 2 months ago
TheDarkLordLucifer 3 months ago
Re:20:2: And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,Re:20:3: And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@irishbarrycooper
The Bible is proof of..... what exactly?
Primordialfan1 3 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer Re:20:10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. WE WIN !
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer Joh:1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh:1:2: The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh:1:3: All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh:1:4: In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh:1:5: And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Ro:6:23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer There is no life eternal in the demons lounge. Its the eternal lake of fire and you shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. How stupid can someone be to worship satan. He may offer you gain or riches in life but its not worth your soul. Life is so short. eternity is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
TheDarkLordLucifer 3 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer you are praying to the wrong person. Satan does not give love nor peace. I read the end of the book and know how it turns out. I hope you would open your mind and truly think things through. God does not want anyone to to be cast in the lake of fire, that is why the Bible says that He waits for people to reent and turn to him because, He loves you so much that He sent His Son to take the punishment for all of our sins. It's free, all you have to do is accept salvation.
AndyG792 2 months ago
TheDarkLordLucifer 2 months ago
@TheDarkLordLucifer Hi. Is this a self-written poem or what? And what is it's meaning/purpose? I'm curious because I've seen you post it several times.
luke8670 2 months ago
TheDarkLordLucifer 3 months ago
humans are not intelligent enough yet to ponder our origins. lets wait for ET to tell us the story of life and the universe. meanwhile to each his own, believe whatever you want to, evolution or creationism both are unprovable theories.
hanlee666 7 months ago
@hanlee666 The fact is that evolution has all the facts on its side, whilst creationism doesn't. That's like saying that gravity and the theory that angels pin you down to the floor are equally viable theories, given that they cannot be proven conclusively either way
TheGamanic 7 months ago
@TheGamanic Glad to see you paid attention to the video! ;-)
BTW Creationists never claim proof, just evidence. Strong and varied evidence. Tons and tons of evidence.
(Please ask me to go into it. Please.)
williamstdog9 6 months ago
@williamstdog9 If there was any evidence at all, people would be publishing in respectable peer review, scientific journals about intelligent design, yet that has not ever come to pass. They do all this screaming about being right but they never put their money where their mouth is!
TheGamanic 6 months ago
@williamstdog9
Find a Scientific journal and publish your ''TONS AND TONS of evidence''.
See how far your ''evidence'' goes.
Primordialfan1 6 months ago
@Primordialfan1 what is your best evidence for evolution
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@irishbarrycooper
150 years of scientific research, the fossil record, the confirmation of evolution by the discovery of DNA and Genetics.
Evidence for creationism?
Primordialfan1 3 months ago
@TheGamanic what is your best evidence for evolution?
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@irishbarrycooper Phylogenetics, the fossil record, comparative anatomy, radiometric dating, ERVs etc along with tons of other stuff. Just ask any university biology lecturer and they will explain very thoroughly and convince you through logic and evidence that evolution is the only rational theory out there
TheGamanic 3 months ago
@TheGamanic I asked for your best evidence, not how you may try to find evidence or just naming scientific techniques. Just tell me one piece of concrete evidence. Considering you seem to know a lot about your religion, oops sorry i mean evolution it shouldn't be hard to give one example.
irishbarrycooper 3 months ago
@irishbarrycooper I guess I would say that would it be the fact that all those separate disciplines of science fit together to give a coherent picture of world history which is only explicable through evolution. For example the fossil record fits perfectly with genetic differences. This cannot be explained by biblical creation without resorting to ridiculous explanations, which you no doubt believe in
TheGamanic 3 months ago
@TheGamanic that depends on how indoctrinated a person is in evolution. I truly believe if you or any other person would honestly think through both scientific evidences for evolution and creation, instead of being closed minded to the creation evidences, you will see that the evidences for creation is a lot more viable. It's a lot more scientific and not as conjectural. as evolution is. the RATE project predicted correctly as to where the graph would fall before they got the results back.
AndyG792 2 months ago
@AndyG792 It's not about indocrination, it's about fact! Unfortunately creationists can't come to deal with that and so have to come with this plot that everyone is being brainwashed by someone into evolution. Quite frankly, don't you think it is odd that you, an uneducated person in this area believes in this theory, whilst all the experts another? Creation has no scientific basis whatsoever, hence why no scientific paper have been written on it EVER.
TheGamanic 2 months ago
Hey, Berean Beacon, I have a question. If god is nice then why does the bible say "When a man strikes his male or female slave that the slave die sunder his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property -Exodus 21:20-21"?
TheGeneralBurn 7 months ago
@TheGeneralBurn God is not "nice", but corrects those that require it. The man would have been punished if death resulted, if not then the man lost several days of labor (money) because of his unnecessary severity. God always warned his people about sin and what he would do to them if they didn't stop. Now to learn about the free gift of God and his love for all, listen here.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
8 years of study but starting with the assumption that radioactive decay can be changed to match the bible story. NOT Science.
gregrutz 7 months ago
@gregrutz Not different from neo-Darwinists who start with the assumption that evolution is true NO MATTER WHAT.
raponte1955 7 months ago 2
@raponte1955 WTF? No one made the assumption that evolution is true, it was proven with facts. Geologists proved the earth is old with facts. Geologists proved there was never a global flood with facts.
gregrutz 7 months ago
Carl never said ''Billion and Billions'' NIce lie.
gregrutz 7 months ago
That's right, BBbrain, you take refuge in your book of words.That'll make those troublesome thoughts go away. You don't want to think, BB, there's dangers in thinking. If you let yourself think about it, before you know what you're doing, you'll be asking how God can be true and be sending people delusions at the same time.
So keep on regurgitating the texts, BB. They'll be sure to make you feel better.
puffin51 7 months ago
@puffin51 OK and thank you.
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Corinthiians 2:9,10
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1
Written by man. Quoting the Bible doesn't reinforce your argument in the eyes of ANYONE who doesn't already believe what you believe.
opmike343 7 months ago
@opmike343 People are converted by the words of God, that is to say, first they didn't believe, then if interested, God did this for them.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
Lovely quote from Thessalonians, there, BB. Says that God sends the delusion, (that is, He's a liar) and then sends us all to Hell for believing it. Nice guy you worship.
puffin51 7 months ago
@puffin51 When people want a reason to reject him (God), he is very accommodating and provides many delusions that will keep them on the broad way to destruction. All the false religions provide their own vehicles of destruction by imposing invented laws to keep their people in bondage. To really understand a true Christian position listen to this and then comment on it.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
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BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
So you admit your God deludes people - that He's a liar. And after Jesus told you who was the father of lies, too. This explains a lot about you, BB. Your own delusional state, for instance.
puffin51 7 months ago
@puffin51 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Romans 3:3,4
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
That last might as well be spam. It's a canned screed, always the same, that this loon puts up whenever anyone tells the truth on one of his nutbar little videos.
puffin51 7 months ago
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@puffin51 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thessalonians 2:7-12
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@puffin51 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
Ever wonder why their "cutting edge" RATE research isn't presented at an international Physics conference? Because It is fabrication, falsification, and academic dishonesty to the highest degree. A Physics undergraduate student could debunk it. That is why they present their rubbish at fundamentalist churches and "Creatard" conferences. The people attending are scientifically illiterate and will believe whatever they are told without any scrutinization.
jknengr796 7 months ago
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@jknengr796 All evolutionists have is hot air on the mostly anonymous Internet. We have the real science backed up by the $10,000 Life Science Prize. You can evolve from a chicken and win the prize or make cowardly remarks on websites until you ultimately die and become a creationists after it's too late. My last remark to you is something that everyone understands: CLUCK, CLUCK
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
You are starting thinking that you know the answer and are selecting evidence to prove your "truth". Your bizarro reverse "science" will never trump the tried-and-true method of the scientific method. You could use the creationist way of doing "science" to "prove" nearly anything.
Blarghonius 8 months ago
@Blarghonius Your "tried-and-true method" is science fiction (evolution). Stay with real science and all will be well.
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Evolution has been heavily supported by the scientific method; it is real science with lots of evidence. If you believe that is "science fiction", you are a hypocrite for using a computer and living in a house. Look for evidence from people who aren't predisposed to any position.
Blarghonius 8 months ago
@Blarghonius Again, real science is fine, but something exploding from nothing and non living chemicals coming alive and here we are is science fiction. Evolutionists won't debate because they know they will lose. Present evidence that a computer was produced by real science and you will win. Present scientific evidence that evolution is a fact (such what produced a computer) and you will win.
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Evolution does not concern the origins of the universe; that is cosmogony. Evolution does not concern the origins of life: that is abiogenesis. I watch videos like these to learn what creationism is so I can form opinions on it and be knowledgeable about the subject. You should do the same: study evolution and learn what it actually is instead of going on your preconceived notions.
Blarghonius 8 months ago
You can't be a creationist and a scientist..Deal with it..
Stevoukos 8 months ago
Carl never said ''Billions and Billions''. Really, watch the show again. He used the word 'billions' a lot because the universe is billions of years old and there are billions of stars.
gregrutz 9 months ago
These people don't deserve to call themselves "scientists." No scientist sets out to prove a preconceived notion and tosses out all data that doesn't reflect this notion. This completely violates both the scientific method and the philosophy of science.
I don't understand...I was raised Lutheran and the Bible repeatedly admonishes against lying. It's one of the Ten Commandments.
Yet this is exactly what the RATE team is doing...lying. Their "findings" are nothing more than baldfaced lies.
TheZooCrew 9 months ago
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@TheZooCrew Your time is near.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@Mii20230201 SURE I BELIEVE IN THE BIG BANG THEORY....GOD SPOKE BANG IT HAPPENED
melaniedhall2 10 months ago
@PeiperJ2 if you examined the truth and managed to think on your own and not waste your time on meaningless theory's. aka the big bang. you would see there is plenty of truth out there and it does not speak loudly in the scientific community or in the public school system. many Scientist have been wrongfully black listed because they have proven creation time and time again with cold hard facts. get with it man...
melaniedhall2 10 months ago
@melaniedhall2 products of science the phone, PC, toilets, fridge in your home etc etc
products of creation science ................................................................................................nada
people blacklisted because they have "Proven" creation with stone cold fact .....0
And just in case, there is no conspiracy against creation science papers being submitted for peer review, they just do not get trough the proces because they do not meet scientific standards
Toudiyama 9 months ago
@Toudiyama Gravity was discovered by Creationists (Isaac Newton), also that bigger things do not necessarily fall faster than small things (Galileo Galilee), that the earth is not flat (also Galileo Galilee) and the mechanism from work to heat (James Prescott Joule). You say something like that creation is against science, which is not true. Science is indeed very good, it has disproved evolution just fine, but theses atheists don't want to admit that.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 they might have believed in a god but they were no creation scientist, they were scientist who believed in a creation, which wasa pitty as that kept Newton from developing a theory of gravity
Gallileo Gallilei did not find the earth was round the greeks did that way before him, he did have the heritic idea that the earth was not the center of it all
where are the scientific peer reviewed papers disproving evolution? and the 13.7 billion year old universe?
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 the thing you mentioned weren't the products of creationism, it was despite creationism or it did not have any influence at all
we don't see scientist reading the bible in search for scientific predictions and coming up with the discoveries and inventions. I do not say creation sciense is against science, I say it is not science, if the evidence disproves the premise, reject the premise, not reject the evidence, like YECs do
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@Toudiyama it's creation, not creationism. Well, science itself is descended from the Christian religion which also includes Creation. But I understand what you mean, Creation is not part of science but creationists did never claim to be it. Creation science means the research for scientific evidence which supports Creation and contradicts Evolution. Once again, creationists don't claim to be part of science nor do we want Creation in school, we simply want religion -Evolution- out of science.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 "Creation is not part of science but creationists did never claim to be it. Creation science means the research for scientific evidence which supports Creation and contradicts Evolution"
You got to be kidding, this is a shinning example of "words mean what I want them to mean"
the ID trials have shown that they tried to get creation in the schools. last they do not just want evolution out of science but anything showing an old earth or universe
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 creation science means the search for materials from real researchers and editing it such that it apears to say the opposite of what the author meant.
it is targeted at lay people that have had little to no science education.
Strawmanning real science and then rediculing that and coming up with half asses hypothesis that explain much less than the theories they try to explain
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@Toudiyama Why do then so many scientists believe in Creation rather than Evolution? Why does then so much evidence support Creation? Why do then evolutionists use so many lies to support their theory? Because low educated stupid people believe in Creation? I don't think so!
There have surely been some people who tried to get Creation into the school, but this is wrong, they shouldn't have done so. But no, I for instance do not want Creation nor Evolution in science classes.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 1) because no scientist would "believe" in evolution, they accept it
2) like what I haven't seen any evidence that can best be explained with creation
3) Again like what, which lies are you talking about?
4) there surely have been? Sorry but the people behind the wedge document are still attempting to do so
5) if evolution isn't science, it should be easy to write paper about why it is not and get it published in a peer reviewed paper after being reviewed
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@Toudiyama Well, there is no evidence that an animal can change one of its body parts, for instance its fins to non-fins. Evolutionists say so, they say that some fish type animals evolved their fins into non-fins; legs. There is no proof for that, so why do we have to learn this stuff in school? Evolution uses lies like embryology, the whale evolution, the horse evolution, etc. The teachers, in our school, still teach this stuff.
Complexity can be explained by Creation.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 an animal will not change into another animal, evolution isn't like the pokemons
most of Science doesn't work with Proof but with evidence. And there is ample evidence
Just because you do not understand or accept th evidence does not mean it isn't there
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@Toudiyama Yes but there isn't even evidence that the fish developed non-fins over time. There is only this theory, this hypotheses which is called Evolution which says so, but the evidence itself says the contrary. So because there isn't evidence you simply say that I don't understand the evidence, but this isn't how science works, show me some evidence.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 tiktaalik
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 The list of species which possess transitional features continues to grow. Epidexipteryx hui, Protoavis, Protarchaeopteryx, Archeopteryx, Avimimus, Sinosauropteryx, Caudipteryx, Rahonavis, Shuvuuia, Sinornithosaurus, Beipiasaurus, Microraptor, Nomingia, Epidendrosaurus, Cryptovolans, Scansoriopteryx, Yixianosaurus, Dilong, Pedopenna, Jinfengopteryx, Sinocalliopteryx, Sinornis, Ambiortus, Hesperornis, Ichthyornis
gregrutz 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 ''they say that some fish type animals evolved their fins into non-fins; legs. There is no proof for that''
Except >> tiktaalik
gregrutz 8 months ago
@gregrutz yeah, I will research about them!
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@Toudiyama Well if there are people who try to get Creation into the school then it's because they know that evolution is no fact, so if we can teach a non-fact in schools then we can also teach religions like Creation in school. Either both or none.
Evolution is still science because most scientists don't understand that little changes over time don't change, for instance, fins into non-fens. Sure big changes happen, but not new creations! Evolution is really not science.
eagleeye2102 8 months ago
@eagleeye2102 Funny how scientist in a field do not "understand" how certain claims, made by people with no training in the field, could ever be true
Toudiyama 8 months ago
@melaniedhall2 What ''cold hard facts'' prove creation? Feathers on dinosaurs? The Cambrian Explosion?
gregrutz 9 months ago
18:06 , God provided the money for research, God provided the answers that they were looking for, but God was fucked if he could make the projector work.
thejacalofskaro74 10 months ago
The trouble with this video can be traced to the unstated axioms: The Bible is a divine dictation, infallible and literal. Once these assumptions have been discarded, there is no a longer a need to come up with twisted and tortured arguments in an attempt to promote the absurd and exhaustively discredited assertion that the Earth is only a few thousand years old.
stargate153 10 months ago
...I'll continue to use physics and not really worry about how old everything is. There are much more important issues at hand in the present.
TurbotortoiseStickle 10 months ago
What is a day to GOD? Is it one rotation of the Earth? Is it one revolution of the Earth around the sun? Is it one galatic day? Is it one galatic year? Is it longer? How are we to concive such a dimention from the perspective of GOD, the Creator: the Alpha, the Omaga. GOD, who percieves time as a whole and is every when and then and now...
There are numberous conditions which can alter the sample durring and after formation, just as with carbin-14 dateing: how much is unknown...
TurbotortoiseStickle 10 months ago
@PeiperJ2 If Atheism is true, then why do you exist?
TheAntiochus 11 months ago
@TheAntiochus No reason. I simply exist. Why do you think that something has to intend it?
puffin02 11 months ago
@TheAntiochus ask your parents about the birds and the bees
Toudiyama 9 months ago
Poking fun of Carl Sagan was enough to make me want to punch him.
TheCharliehatmaker 11 months ago
''The age issue really says Evolution requires long periods of time.'' WHAT?!?
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So he really doesn't care about the age of the earth, he is just trying to prove evolution wrong. FAIL.
gregrutz 11 months ago
Carl never said ''billions and billions'' Nice lie.
Geologists knew the earth was millions of years old before nuclear chemists told them it was 4,545 Million years old, + or - 2 million years.
gregrutz 11 months ago
Anyone that brings scripture (The bible in whatever form) clearly demonstrates they have bias. Ancient literature has nothing to do with archeological, biological, or any scientific discoveries.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 In a scientific debate religion is not necessary. Evolutionist always use that straw man argument to avoid a scientific controlled debate in a public forum because they know they will lose. Bring your "facts" to The Life Science Prize and be the hero of evolution.
BereanBeacon1 1 year ago
@BereanBeacon1 What? I absolutely think that religion is of no use in a debate that is centered around scientific research. I have no attachment to evolution... I can just identify when people are trying to discredit something by way of biased information (i.e. the mention of an ancient text over and over again).
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@BereanBeacon1 Which part of 'science is not done in a courtroom' are you having a problem grasping?
TheScienceFoundation 11 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Science does not use the supernatural, it changes no experiment.
gregrutz 11 months ago
''we did 8 years of intensive study''
that's 0.0000000000000000000000000000002 seconds by their reckoning
al3699 1 year ago
@al3699, nicely done.
scottp118 1 year ago
@al3699 I found 8 to be a pathetic number as well.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
0:26 = Actually it's "…billions and billions of stars" .
creamaster 1 year ago
There is no one called creationist as just to believe a story of a week long program of creation by the god one doesn't need of a full brain, but just brain stem will do the job. Whereas to understand modern science one need a fully grown human brain, because it is the accumulation of human knowledge of the last 20 thousand years.
johnpad0791 1 year ago
so they did a "scientific study" to find a young-earth alternative. They came up with a conclusion, and tried to find evidence to support it. As anyone who's done a 6th-grade science project will tell you, that's the opposite of science
yablebab 1 year ago
@yablebab Which is exactly what evolution did. Great observation.
richard4president 1 year ago
@richard4president actually Darwin came to a conclusion which was based on the evidence. Do you see the difference between making a conclusion based on the evidence you find and inventing a conclusion and then only looking at that evidence which supports it? Because that's what creationists do. The answer was written 2000 years ago, so ignore all the discoveries we've made since then.
yablebab 1 year ago
@yablebab Actually I was thinking that's what darwinian scientist did. Anything that is found that doesn't fit darwinism, they ignore and pretend it never happened. Real science isn't sticking your pathetic little heads in the sand. See the difference?
richard4president 1 year ago
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@richard4president Really? Tell me one piece of evidence that contradicts Darwinian evolution. Please!
yablebab 1 year ago
@richard4president WTF is a "Darwinian Scientist"? And do you have examples of such scientists doing the things you claim?
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 Aww dear girl, what a waste of your pretty little face.
richard4president 1 year ago
@richard4president Are you really that big of a pathetic POS? Please answer the question I asked,
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@richard4president What did "evolution" do? Pretty sure evolution isn't an entity that could "do" anything.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
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@bttrflykiss7701 Evolution did nothing, you are correct. Evolution doesn't exist nor has it ever existed. Therefore it could have done nothing.
richard4president 1 year ago
@richard4president Evolution doesn't exist? Hmm... Perhaps you should return to the 3rd grade....
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 Perhaps you should research.
richard4president 1 year ago
@richard4president Research what?
bttrflykiss7701 11 months ago
@yablebab Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's science in reverse.
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Calenfeyn41 1 year ago
Carl Never said ''Billions and Billions''. Not once.
The universe is 13 billion years old.
The solar system is 4,545 million years old.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Flood? What flood? There is no evidence for a flood. The Chinese have a long history with many floods, they did not all die.
gregrutz 1 year ago
If the Earth is billions of years old why is it only 2010?
KELBYL 1 year ago
@KELBYL I really hope you are kidding.
bttrflykiss7701 11 months ago
@bttrflykiss7701 sorry i didn't mean to disturb you haha
KELBYL 11 months ago
@KELBYL You didn't disturb me; I was just wondering if you were actually serious about your question.
bttrflykiss7701 11 months ago
@bttrflykiss7701 sure i was serious ...
KELBYL 11 months ago
@KELBYL Oh, well then you are a moron.
bttrflykiss7701 11 months ago
@bttrflykiss7701 a moron i may be. however you never happened to share you knowledge with me. If the earth is billions of years old why is it only 2011 .... Can you tell me please?
thats what i thought.
KELBYL 11 months ago
@KELBYL Why did you write "That's what I thought" as if I didn't have an answer? Ok... here's why the year is 2011:
calendar-origins
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com/calendar-origins
Amazing what a little research will do.
bttrflykiss7701 11 months ago
@bttrflykiss7701 thank you . you are brilliant!
KELBYL 11 months ago
Geologists went looking for evidence of a global flood over 200 years ago. They did not find any.
They found distinct layers of different kinds of rock with different fossil in them. Floods don't do that. They discovered it must have taken millions of years to make what we see. The knew it was millions of years old before radiometric dating showed it was Billions of years old.
gregrutz 1 year ago
They want to be respected and called Christians yet all they do is lie. They disort and manipulate and have been shown over and over to be frauds on this issue.
jamespiperca 1 year ago
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Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature(creation) more than the Creator
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
mfraser123 1 year ago
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Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
mfraser123 1 year ago
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
The fool in his heart says there is no God.
mfraser123 1 year ago
no, it was gremlins i think
longfootbuddy 1 year ago
im sorry, i didnt pay attention to much of what was said, so anything i say about it would be kind of off topic...he does remind me of an actor from the 80s though.. i think it was the dad from e.t.
longfootbuddy 1 year ago
this guy can barely breathe or make his laptop work.
meinLiebsterFeind 1 year ago
@meinLiebsterFeind Yes and just think, hes still more intelligent than you will ever be!.
Aheadstix85 1 year ago
@Aheadstix85
Perhaps you overestimate his intelligence because you, yourself, are the one lacking in intellectual capacity.
meinLiebsterFeind 1 year ago
google "Albert Renshaw" and travel to his physics website... read the article found in the section titled, 'old universe' then you will find out how old the universe really is.
orangegold1 1 year ago
Oh yea by the way did you know the earth is actually flat and it is the center of the universe?
jason1973tl 1 year ago
@jason1973tl The earth is round!, the bible clearly ststes this in Job 35:38, and the roundness of the earth, not flat, Bible also speaks of radio waves, "and God said you will send their voices in lightings so that they may be heard in the far kindom,
Aheadstix85 1 year ago
"Thousands...Not Billions " I get it now. Creationists can't count! All this time I thought reading was their main problem.
wuezili 1 year ago
Carl never said ''Billion and Billions''. Not once. He said 'Billions'' a lot of times.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@elliotbonsall hmm maybe you are not the smartest but i dont c anny sarcasm in my comment?
MrZannkimaru 1 year ago
@PeiperJ2
Lol
Sulcuscentralis 1 year ago
trash
superfisto 1 year ago
trash
superfisto 1 year ago
and some people call muslims fanatics
Robfoxman 1 year ago
ohh man its stupid that i believed the big bang and stuff because they showed it to me @ school (on a christian school?) ghanyways i know better now :D
for ppl who do not believe in God ill pray for you :D
have a nice day
MrZannkimaru 1 year ago
@MrZannkimaru Heheh I love sarcasm, you do it quite well. Good job.
Gabumon54321 1 year ago
Ho hum... More lies from creationists. If this stuff were real it should rock the world, but it can't even get off the ground it is so full of holes.
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Try the following for a start.
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gondwanaresearch (dot) com/rate.htm
Noisegator 1 year ago
@Calypsis4 Get this through your head, the target audience of this "research" is not other scientists, but young earth believers. The young earth creation science community has been trained to accept the words of young earth creation scientists, without question. To question a young earth scientist's work is equivalent to mutiny...it just isn't done.
Upon reviewing some of their work, they did not use "independent labs", they didn't site sources, and they were dishonest beyond reproach.
joelkness 1 year ago
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@joelkness You said 'Upon reviewing some of their work, they did not use "independent labs", they didn't site sources, and they were dishonest beyond reproach.' REALLY? Would you care to debate some of the data? You may want to take a quick look at some of my comments on a thread to a PhD nuclear physicist regarding RATE's work before you start casting ignorant aspirations:
w w w[.]youtube[.]com/watch?v=gPynJVPq74Q
gavinmatthewcox123 1 year ago
@Calypsis4 Normally, scientific research of this magnitude, especially considering that it supposedly disproves radiometric dating, would be released through peer-reviewed journals. If it really is scientifically sound, the young earth researchers should release it in the normal manner, and their results would truly rock the scientific world. Why do you suppose they did not attempt to release it via peer review? Much of their work was conducted via unethical means with religious bias.
joelkness 1 year ago
Calypsis4: You've convinced me. The earth is a flat circle supported by 4 pillars lying in the center of the Universe with the sun revolving around it. Rain falls through from windows in the heavenly firmament. I am descended from Noah and the English I speak arose from the Tower of Babel.
There is nothing repeatable in the data they mis-produced. At least I have the background to review their questionable work. You don't. You just parrot the crap they tell you and believe it.
joelkness 1 year ago
"You';ve convinceed me. The earth is flat...
Where does the Bible say the earth is flat? Concerning the pillars...how can you ascertain that which is invisible and how do such pillars function?
That's right; you are descended from Noah and the English you speak eventually descended from the Tower of Bable. No apologies.
You should have listened more closely to the evidence Dr. Vardiman gave you in the video clip. But bigoted evolutionists don't like facts that counter their beliefs.
Kirkwhisper 1 year ago
@Kirkwhisper Where does the Bible say the earth is flat? All refer to the "flatness", ends or circle of the earth. Isaiah 11:12 , Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13 , Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Matthew 4:8, Isaiah 40:22. There are more.
Descended from Noah and "Tower of Babel". - LMAO
Vardiman's "work" has been shown to be a fraud. If it was so groundbreaking, they would have it published. However, due to the fraudulent nature of this work, it can only be peddled in fundamentalist churches.
jknengr796 1 year ago
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@jknengr796 Circles are flat, 2D.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@jknengr796 I looked up the Bible verses you noted, not one of them states the earth to be flat! one talkes about the fore corners, but thats seriously reaching. another talks about the end of the earth but its referring to the sky? as a matter of fact it really says Job 26:7" He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." which no one in that time could have conceived of. I suspect all you criticism to be the true fraud.
eshb4u 1 year ago
@eshb4u That is some real "science" referring to the 4 corners of the earth, the pillars of the earth, the 4 winds, the circle of the earth. I can easily go on. It doesn't say "sphere" and it doesn't in any translation. Creationists want to be literal, then take it as such instead of picking what is literal and what maybe isn't and trying to fit it to your preconceived brainwashing. You're the fraud.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@eshb4u Isaiah 40 : 22-24
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers
I can draw a circle on a flat piece of paper, they are 2D.
gregrutz 1 year ago
i don't know why people are giving you thumbs up you and them obviously don't have enough knowledge of the bible, creationists and science.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@joelkness Cry baby
Codenamelumiere 1 year ago
joe: They already did but you do not care what the quality of their evidence is or even the fact that independent secular labs reproduced the same results. It is useless to communicate with someone who will not accept the data. The only 'lie' here is your opinions as opposed to the documented facts that R.A.T.E. and the independent sources have provided us.
Post someone else.
Calypsis4 1 year ago
I don't care what kind of education you claim to have. The R.A.T.E. analysis was verified by a number of different labs and there isn't anything you can do about it. Not only so but other independent sources came up with much the same results.
Your bigotry is really showing, fella. I'm not impressed.
Scripture (Genesis) is not a guess; it is God's Word. I believe it because I have seen the power of it and so have many of my companions. You're only giving opinions.
Calypsis4 1 year ago
@Calypsis4 Like I said, these clowns need to "put up or shut up". Independent labs by ass. You should say Independent "creationist labs". You are repeating their lie.
At least my "opinions" are based on sound scientific practices and principles backed up by many years of research, data collection and the like.
Yours are based on a particular interpretation of the Old Testament Genesis story. Long since accepted as faith based myth stories some of which was taken from other cultures.
joelkness 1 year ago
@Calypsis4
I find it sad that some people have twisted the Bible to their personal gain. And people follow these "evangelists" like sheep. It is insulting to me as a Christian to see people make fools out of themselves by bearing false witness the way they do.
Being Christian means accepting the Lord Jesus as your personal savior. That's it! Not parroting all this garbage for Jesus sake, forcing it on others, turning people away and ticking them off. That is what these people do.
joelkness 1 year ago
joe: Because peer reviews in the secular world are controlled by bigoted individuals like you who refuse to consider evidence against their views, that's why.
You aren't talking 'real science' you are talking guesswork becaus that is what evolution is...a big guess. Not a good one either.
You and your Darwinian crony buddies are the dishonest ones. You won't even look at the independent sources that verified their conclusions. It makes me sick.
Calypsis4 1 year ago
@Calypsis4 Sure, it's a big conspiracy.
Any "real" scientific work must withstand scrutiny. Theirs is not, which is the reason it is laughed at. Astrology is not Astronomy, Alchemy is not Chemistry, Magic is not Physics, Aliens didn't build the Pyramids, and Creationism is NOT science. The "independent sources" cited are other creationist quote mines and pseudoscience from other creationists. The 7 "Ph.D."'s cited by Vardiman have a history of academic dishonesty and dubious credentials.
joelkness 1 year ago
@Calypsis4 If I didn't have an education in the sciences or know anything about dating techniques, I may be wowed by his presentation also. That is what they count on. Fortunately, I have done radioactive decay experiments, and there are real experts in the various fields of study that can scrutinize this work for the sham it is.
As far as evolution being a "guess", the scientific process would have discovered that man originated from dirt in 4004 bc if that was indeed the case.
joelkness 1 year ago
joe: I'll say it forthrightly - you don't know what you're talking about. Calypsis4 is NOT the author of the information: R.A.T.E. is...and those experts know EXACTLY what they are talking about and their findings have been verified by several independent sources. I am the one laughing at you. You don't care what the evidence really tells us. See you on judgment day.
Calypsis4 1 year ago
people are so quick to push God away, it truly breaks my heart. if only they knew that God is love, believing in God is trusting in love. you see the Father is a spirit, and they who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
reepeetrandum 1 year ago
we all hold a spirit in our hearts, just as God has a spirit. you cannot draw over the fact that we have live souls, and it takes life to make life (as observed by all creation, mother gives birth to child. it all started we we're given life by the father) its a natural process.
reepeetrandum 1 year ago
anyone can look at animals, and find that we are in a catogory all of our own; animals are seperate from us. Look upon Jesus and find one guilt, for he to be charged? there is none. therefore just as the pharisee's of his time, you charge an innocent man with false accussations. worthy is the lamb who was slain, worthy is the sacrifice that cleansed all of us.
reepeetrandum 1 year ago