Sun of God

[WebskiDesign]

lol and this is still a lie even though it sounds so logical and fresh. It is a lie and manipulation. Yes, it is. The truth is even more out of this world. Just like us.

[etsprout]

I really enjoy this whole video, and it's very interesting! I agree with you in most everything, my only issue is that the sun is lowest on Dec. 25 and the cross appears, but jesus died right before Easter, in the spring.

[Icaguuroth]

All religions are just a way to brain wash followers into conforming to the agendas of their leaders. There is no god no allah and so on. We are quite simply floating through space bound by gravity to a ball of space dust left over from the birth of our sun. There are trillions of stars just like ours out there in galaxies and nebula as far as our strongest telescopes can see, Most of witch have planets orbiting them. I have to wonder if the inhabitants of those planets are any better off.

[Rameeez420517]

@ all

Thats why i m happy being a muslims... we muslims do not believe in any of the fact abt jesus mentioned in this video which are similar to pagan gods

For muslims jesus was

A man

A prophet of God

The messiah

Was not crucified

Didnt resurect from the dead

[Rameeez420517]

@Rameeez420517

Typing mistake

*Muslim*

[fifibeauteous]

Darkness is hate, anger, lust, pride and so on. thats why you most walk in the spirit which is love, kindness and so on thats how we will over come.

[fifibeauteous]

Darkness is hate, anger, lust, pride and so on.

[tommijinsaen]

Jesus is Horus et al, all the foundations of truth come from Africa. Romans and Greeks learnt from African teachers in Eiritrea, Ethiopia and Eqypt. The story is so common is the message had to reach the world. This is proof Jesus existed. Whatever happens in the skys affects us on earth - The moon on water and emotions, the Sun on life etc...

[tommijinsaen]

Everyone has a star - that is why stars are born and die - the length of a stars life shows reincarnation is possible. "Thy will be done on Earth as it is Heaven."

[YouthComplex]

I love how all you fuckpots are finding one or two flaws in this video, and using them to stand by your religion. When it comes down to it, you're worshipping a guy that your parents, maybe your teachers told you to worship. There is absolutely no proof that Jesus ever existed, and a few long gone historians don't count as good enough witness. So, those of you that want to continue walking blindly, you may do so. But stop preaching, because nobody gives a shit.

[55mautak]

KRISHNA was not crucified and he was'nt born on Dec.25...He is the SUPREME GOD. If you read the PURANAS and the VEDAS (which i douth), He is even worship by the SUN god. He said in the BHAGABAD GITA, "I COULD ONLY BE KNOWN BY DEVOTIONAL SERVICE". He is above all the DEMI GODS. He even destroyed the NAGAS (reptilian snake) by dancing and stomping on their heads. So smileycoyote, stop creating your imaginary theory.

[Wintblash]

google Doe's Account.

[yahyamsy]

at the bottom of your fast scrolling list of examples you have Mohammad of Arabia .. i can say this is completly false - we all know his biography very well and none of your claims match - none. stick to what you're good at only.

[sagitarian000028]

we need to have more videos about the astrology and the bible so that less people are brain washed I am amused at the fact that people believe that god created everything out of nothingness I think pantheistic paganism makes more sence to me than that

[harryfmk]

This vid has a lot of inaccuracies.

[jacobromu]

This isn't that good of a connnection once you read into it. Jesus has little to no evidence, but he likely isn't a sun based dude.

[Valerian1]

It's not one or the other. It's both.

It's astrology, and its much, much more.

There is significance on many levels.

Why is that so difficult to grasp?

[Valerian1]

Jesus is called an incarnation of God -- must we assume that he was "stolen"? What if he was the latest "incarnation" of the wisdom which Horus was also an "incarnation" of? Perhaps Christianity became the present model for ancient teachings, and that a new model was needed. Perhaps Jesus and the Church were deputized to exoterically carry on the esoteric traditions. The Romans might have refused Horus, but they accepted Jesus -- perhaps there's a reason "Jesus" and not Horus was "sent" to them?

[Valerian1]

The Bible can be read on a number of levels. Many people discover a new level, or a level which they had not been aware of, or which some sects had not been aware of, and assume that they have negated all other interpretations and found the true one. There is a lot going on.  A lot of myths, personalities, sayings, legends, and histories got all mixed up, first for religious and then for political motives.

[SolidArch]

nobody knows when Jesus was born, but the Dec 25 was just a competition thing.

[DManneh89]

this is based on alot of weak theology...

[gregorysams1]

Countless pre-Christian cultures saw the Sun as living being, an intuitive understanding that Christianity wiped from our culture, hijacking dates and legends in the process. But the interesting question is: Were the ancients right - is the Sun a living being? My book on the subject looks at the implications of the 'yes' answer and the science supporting it. Sun of gOd takes the lid off the biggest cover up of all time! Google or Amazon it for more. Gregory Sams, author.

[TheMrSpam]

this just shows that the divine word of god is truth.

there are a lot more stuff like this in the bible. why wouldnt god give meaning to all that he/his son does?he made everythig and loved it!

[TheMrSpam]

haha this is so fake. in that list i saw muhamud/mohamed of arabia in the bottom of the list......ever read the koran. he said even himself that god has no son. ppl dont believe this ...

btw. bible says much more about jesus than those attributes.

[TheMessanjah]

Jesus is Lord

[chjoezen]

I've seen this stuff debunked. There are so many factual errors, it is astoundingly irresponsible on the part of the film maker and I can't even take him seriously on any given subject because of that.

[cipantat92]

fuck sun god!

[UltimateBiohazard]

all religions are fake its just an egyptian myth to scare robbers etc..

[karan30612]

Man this ass hole Knows Nothing......Like he was wrong about almost all the Gods he was talking about............ and the coordination were freaky

[Kairusan]

Look it up. It is historically accurate. Your pathetic fairy tale religion is based off of other fairy tales. The truth hurts, doesn't it. Why don't you just ignore it and run away scared and pray to your imaginary friend?

[mikeolatunji]

This is twisting the truth of the bible; it is wicking it, hence the word wicked! It's the truth with a twist at the end of it! John 19:5 for one is referring to when Pilate was presenting Christ to those persecuting him!!!

[Silentsam7532]

Its not twisting the bible to study history. The jesus story is an old story and the church is lucky the old religions are not around to charge it with plagarism.

[Questfortruth86]

Why don't you people do some research on your own instead of blindly accepting the conclusions presented to you by an internet documentary?

[Kairusan]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAaaaaa. That is so hillarious. Do you realise how much of a hippocrit you are being? You are saying we should not "blindly" believe what we read on the internet, but what are you doing when you read the fairy tales in the Bible? You are BLINDLY BELIEVING! What's worse, the thing YOU are blindly believing has no supporting evidence. This video DOES!

[Questfortruth86]

Hmm interesting. My point was that this video has absolutely no proof, which is why I ask you to do some kind of fact-checking. None of these "gods" resemble Jesus Christ in anyway. Furthermore, I do not blindly accept anything, it took me 6 philosophy classes to find my faith; maybe you should devote some time to this pretty important issue.

[Kairusan]

I find it very admirable that you took 6 philosophy classes to find your faith. I apologize for assuming you did not. 

I have devoted a lot of time, and even gave Christianity a chance, but I am Agnostic by choice. I have taken Philosophy courses, also. I think Descartes made wonderful arguments about God.

Either way, whether they are all linked or not, you can't deny the Astrological references in the Bible. Not to mention most of Christianity is stolen from Paganism in the first place.

[Questfortruth86]

"Not to mention most of Christianity is stolen from Paganism in the first place."

Like?

[Kairusan]

"Like?"

where do I start? Yule-tide (Christmas)

How about Easter? Originally, it was the pagan holiday of Ostara celebrating the spring equinox. Ostara was a time of rebirth, so what's a better holiday to steal and use for the resurrection of Jesus?

How about your precious cross?

Jesus' Birth? The "Three Kings" (Orions belt) followed the north star (Polaris) to the son (SUN) on Dec. 25th. It all lines up.

There's so much more than that. I hope this helps you at least start to see.

[Questfortruth86]

Where is Christmas or Easter mentioned in the bible? Jesus birthday is unknown, but historians believe it was sometime in october. Since his birthday has nothing to do with the december 25th equinox, your argument is completely void. Though it is true that Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays.

[Kairusan]

"Where is Christmas or Easter mentioned in the bible?"

Part 1:

I have not wasted my time reading all of the fairy tales in the Bible. I have only read whatever the pastor was preaching when I was forced to go to church as a child.

I am aware that Jesus' birth was unknown, but most Christians think it's Dec 25th. The main point was: On Dec. 25th, Orion's Belt and Polaris line up to point at the sun rise. Hence, the fairy tale of three kings following the north star to the birth of the son.

[Questfortruth86]

Yes, but none of that has anything to do with Jesus or the bible. I am utterly uninterested in religious politics, which is what you're focusing on. Pope Gregory the first directed Augustine, the archbishop of Cantebury in the year 600ad to include the previous pagan traditions. To use this as the focal point of your argument, which attempts to disprove Jesus' existence is intellectually dishonest. If Jesus was around today he would burn all the Christmas trees.

[Kairusan]

"none of that has anything to do with Jesus or the Bible"

Did you read part 2? Plenty of it does. 

You seem to think I'm trying to prove that Jesus himself is a fairy tale. I do not think so. I am quite confident he existed. He preached some very nice things. My point is that Christianity itself is a copy Pagan religion and is chock full of Bronze Age logic that needs to be realized as myth, not truth.

[Questfortruth86]

Pleas take your time to read my actual responses in their totality. I expose the lies about Dionysus turning water into wine, and the Heaven and Hell issue you raised.

[Kairusan]

It looked like comments were disabled when I tried responding so I started making you a message. Here is the message, as I am not very motivated to split them to your respective responses.

Part 1:

You seem to be one of the rare Christians that is well educated and doesn't take the bible as factual history. I have more respect for you, if this is so. You seem to know your history very well.

[Kairusan]

Part 2:

I did know that Dec. 25th was a famous Pagan holiday chosen as Jesus' birth to make transition into Christianity easy. That is a Christian idea stolen from Pagans, whether you are ignorant enough to believe that Jesus was really born then, or know that he was not.

The point of Dionysus was that he promised water turning into wine. The fact that it isn't identical to Jesus' story isn't the point. The story was taken from Pagans.

[Kairusan]

Part 3:

The Pagan cross does not rely on Jesus being born on the 25th. The fact that the cross was taken from a Pagan artifact is the point I am making. I think it is also admirable that you knew that crucifixions were common. Some Christians say "how could you do something so horrible to Jesus?" and don't realize that such things were common.

[Kairusan]

Part 4:

I had NO IDEA that Heaven and Hell were highly debated in the Christian community! I am surrounded by Christians and they all fervently believe in Heaven and Hell. In fact, sad as it is, many Christians are their faith because they don't want to go to Hell.

As with the previous responses, the Heaven and Hell IDEAS were Pagan in origin, not Christian. It's the basic idea of a place of everlasting torment and a place of everlasting joy.

[Questfortruth86]

Yes, many Christians do believe in everlasting joy/love and hate/pain in the afterlife. And other previous religions have similar beliefs. But these religions also believe in a supreme God, like Christianity. Does that mean that Christians stole their notion of an all powerful god from previous pagan religions? Like Hinduisms Brahman for example. This is the only similarity you were able to find, and it's not that similar, nor have you linked it to religious plagiarism.

[Kairusan]

"Yes, many Christians do believe..."

They took the idea of a location for such things as for a specific person in charge of such places. I'm surprised they didn't steal Purgatory. That seems like a true Christian idea: the chance to improve and get a second chance.

Did they steal the idea of an all powerful God? No, that seems to be the human nature to create such things. At least Christianity was original in having only one God (though "Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost" screams polytheism)

[Questfortruth86]

"(though "Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost" screams polytheism)"

Yes, this is why the people in the Middle East and other various parts all over the world have embraced Islam rather than Christianity. These are legitimate problems, but people who claim that Jesus didn't exist, but was plagiarized from various pagan religions have not done their homework, or have some kind of agenda. These questions are for you to answer, I choose to follow Christianity, you dont have to.

[Kairusan]

"Yes, this is why..."

I see. Once again, I do believe Jesus existed, but not as a God.

My agenda is but to question ignorant people in hopes that, when confronted with the truth, they can at least process it.

You have the complete freedom to follow Christianity, and I don't fault you for it. You seem to be one of the few intelligent Christians that reject Bronze Age beliefs. I hope so.

I think the golden rule Jesus preached is wonderful. The one thing I do like about Christianity.

[Questfortruth86]

If you read the true teaching of Jesus Christ I'm sure you will find many many things that you like. I have nothing against atheists, I was one my self. But there are many atheists that are very hostile to people who have some kind of faith. It's counter-productive and only serves to further divide us.

[Kairusan]

I agree that hostility should not be, on either side and that it's very counter-productive, and divides us.

[Questfortruth86]

Furthermore, December 25th was a very significant holiday for the Romans, it was called Saturnalia; and it was incorporated in 313 ad to Christian cannon;long after the death and resurrection of our Lord. That date was arbitrarily decided to be the birth date of Jesus. Now even if we knew the exact date of Jesus' birth, I'm sure that you and people like you would attach some kind of arbitrary significance to some kind of astrological event. But that date has nothing to do with Jesus.

[Kairusan]

Part 2:

There's many more. How about Hades (Satan and Hell)?

Promises of happy eternal life in Elysian Fields (Heaven)?

Dionysus turning water into wine?

The idea that dreams are messages from God?

How about God speaking through the Pope? (Like Apollo speaking through the oracle at Delphi)

There are many more, and I bet if I wasted my time reading the Bible, I would find even more! These are just ones from memory. Another thing I have not wasted time with is making a list of stolen

[Questfortruth86]

Again, none of that comes from the bible, except the idea of Heaven and Hell, but even that is heavily debated by the Christian community. Also, Heaven and Hell are dramatically different than Hades and Elysian. And again, Dionysus did not turn water into wine, it was said that the temple of Dionysus would turn water into wine on January 5th and 6th. All of your so called facts are either lies, or meaningless.

[Questfortruth86]

"How about your precious cross?"

What, you don't believe that the Romans used crucifixion as a form of punishment?

[Kairusan]

Guess I should have elaborated. Your cross is based off of the pagan chart of the twelve signs of the zodiac. The center contains the sun and the chart is crossed with the two equinoxes. If you take the circle of the sun and the crossing equinoxes, you get the celtic Christian cross.

[Questfortruth86]

"Your cross is based off of the pagan chart of the twelve signs of the zodiac. The center contains the sun and the chart is crossed with the two equinoxes. If you take the circle of the sun and the crossing equinoxes, you get the celtic Christian cross."

Do you read my responses? Jesus was not born on December 25th, meaning it has nothing to do with equinox's. The cross is what Jesus was crucified on; unless you can somehow prove that Romans did not crucify people.

[Questfortruth86]

Horus is the god of the sky, and the son of Osiris, the creator (whose own birth was thought due to the Ogdoad). Horus became depicted as a falcon, or as a falcon-headed man, leading to Horus' name, (in Egyptian, Heru), which meant The distant one. Since Horus was said to be the sky, it was natural that he was rapidly considered to also contain the sun and moon. It became said that the sun was one of his eyes and the moon the other, and that they traversed the sky when he, a falcon, flew across

[Silentsam7532]

Its not hard to see that Jesus was just another sun god. Not all religions say it straight out but that is were it came from.

If your not part of the religion its not hard to see.

[OneEyedJack1970]

So I guess is Spanish Jesus is "el sol de Dios." That's just stupid. He is "el Hijo de Dios."

See how the words are completely different in other languages?

[sandroeleven]

He is a sun god? Astrology.

[OneEyedJack1970]

Sorry -- meant to say "whole world" there.

[OneEyedJack1970]

I can't believe how many idiots seem to think that the whole speaks and has always spoken English. "Sun" and "son" don't sound anything alike in most other languages -- the fact that they do in English is simply a coincidence.

[sandroeleven]

no coincidence at all...the bible is full of astrology..read the birth story.

[Kairusan]

Very true. It is a coincidence. "Sun" and "Son" don't sound the same in other languages. I think the author is trying to make their argument speak to Americans.

It makes me sad to say that most Americans are evangelical Christians who are ignorant on just about everything that isn't related to the Bible. I wish it weren't so, but it is.

I think Americans, more than anyone else, need a wake up call that Christianity is a fairy tale based on astrology --and based on other religions.

[reaperofgenocide]

And also its no surprised astrology is used in many religions. But Despite that, How can we confirm any of this as true? Any notable sources besides zeitgiest? BTW modern christianity is like swiss cheese... it has too many holes in it. Although i do still believe that jesus christ existed im still in my epic search in religion. Also is anyone still reading this if you know of any way to show that anything said in here is even slightly true just let me know how to confirm it as fact.

[reaperofgenocide]

"Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[30] as either 18th or 21st July 3228 BCE.[31]"-wiki,idk about india using crucifixion as a execution method. "virgin born crucified saviors all over the world." buddah was on that list and he wasnt of virgin birth and i doubt he was crucified. "The time of his birth and death are uncertain"-wiki BTW wheres the authenticity of this information.

[nagaril]

Truth is vindictively sweet and sorrow and for truth one should discover first hand.Buddha is also similar to Jesus and people can believe to whatever it is cause that's their faith even the universe can't stop them believing that Jesus is the sun of god . Amen is also the way the ancient Egyptian pray so find the truth !

[TheKingAndPie]

I dont think that Dionysus was born of a virgin. His mother was impregnated by one of the Olympian gods (I think it was hermes?). Or does having sex with a god not count as losing your virginity?

[AnonymousCommentator]

Zeitgiest is Big Fucking Lie!

You got to be Stupid to believe anything that talks about the New World Order!

Zeitgeist Directors are High Degree Free-Masons.

And NONE OF THEM were born December 25th, or performed miracles! That's a fucking lie!

People are too lazy to find the REAL TRUTH!

[AnonymousCommentator]

BTW. Alex Jones is a CIA Agent, his job is to create dissent among people to attack governement with mix truth-lies.

David Icke is MI6 Agent, he's got an Agenda too. To make you believe the BIGGEST FUCKING LIE: The BOGUS Human Evolution of Conciousness!

Agents are erverywhere! The NEW WORLD ORDER needs EXPOSURE to work! LIES mix with TRUTH so they can push Martial Laws on America, Canada and Europe.

[xdesmex]

Corredtion to my previous comment Christ was born on Apr. 6.

[xdesmex]

Interesting, in the Bible, a witness of Christ, Luke 1 verse 26 it states that the angel came to Mary in the sixth month. Using either the Roman or Jewish calendar it places the birth date in the March-April range. Christ was not born Apr. 6. Kinda changes things. The fact that a Christ figure was known to so many different cultures only promotes my believe in Him. That He loves all and talks to all people. Then pagan religions are only degenerate Christians, not the other way.

[thetruthone]

degenerate Christians that predate Christianity?

[xdesmex]

Adam the first man was the first Christian that is he was the first to believe in Christ he may not have called himself a Christian but he believed in Christ. Many prophets have prophesied of Christ long before he came, Moses, Isaiah, Abraham- all int he Bible, there are more, and in the Book of Mormon, Nephi, Almaand many others. they all predate Christ. So yes men believed in Him before he came.

[martynuuucha]

I saw all this film ...

[vathuglife101]

horus wasnt baptised, crucified, or born on December 25th.

[kerpal2343]

Really like the video, watched the whole zeitgeistmovie o c0/\/\ movie. The only reservation I have against this particular segment is the historical correlation in terms of the works of paul and other apostles who seem to have a historical record within the period, please feel free to mail me, I would love to converse.

[metedude2]

sweet vid!

thanks :)

PEACE AND LOVE

[grizzle741]

whoever made this video is a nut

[smileycoyote]

..and you highlight the pride you take in your ignorance nicely. I'm betting you are American.

[sexyxrs]

@smileycoyote is a good work awfull sounds quality .

should make bigger vid with better sounds quality :D

cheers and thx for upp.

[aliearia03]

@grizzle741 Ignorance is bliss but knowledge is POWER! All one has to do is investigate the original truth.. Some can't handle the truth.. especially the western world where Christianity rules.. I should know, I was once calling myself a Christian since birth but have gained knowledge outside of the dark box of illusion. I suggest the spiritual knowledge of ALL things be your choice of focus in these end of days as they have been known. THE REVEALING IS NOW!

[mayaluvsmusic]

krishna born on dec 25th?