I think people should calm down a little bit - we need to look to the future while not forgetting the past. Still, we need to remember that revenge would lower ourselves to the level of the British and the French, so instead, we must continue the course of economic development and beat them without ever firing a shot. Oh, and work harder to make the British Museum and Louvre return national treasures taken from the Old Summer Palace.
The irony of the Old Summer Palace is that a good portion of it was built along European Baroque lines, with input from European (mostly Italian) architects. Odd how the Qing wanted to copy "barbarian" palace architecture. Hence the preponderance of stone at the site--traditional Chinese buildings are almost all made of wood. If not for European architects, the stone ruins you see today would not be there. History is funny how it works sometimes.
Yeah, we see the stone remains because they didn't turn into ashes, unlike the Chinese part (which was very large) built from wood which had been completely razed by the fire. And even if there were no European architecture, the Chinese-style canals and bridges (made from stone) would still be present.
Don't see how the point can even be debated. France and England went to China and insisted that it must trade with them? Why should China be obligated to do that? and that it must allow drugs to be peddled in its country because they insist? Failing which UK and France invades, kills its citizens and loots. The protagonists are not even border states where disputes can be expected. The French/British traveled a long way to find trouble with a peaceful China that just wanted to be left alone
You are fucking uneducated that you don't understand history , you country well know you were robbers and you goverment rely on unfair war to become rich country .and you country want to cover this shameless british/french robbers history therefore they never mention it in you history book, however you now you were barbaric country , who rely on plunder and ruin human civilaztion because western power full country .We feel shame on you small countries rude behavore
This place will always be in this state, so that our descendants will not forget to always be strong and have dignity, that when others try to bring enslave them, they will resist. That is the lesson that is being taught and will continue to be taught by this event.
@Chinastar85 During the Opium Wars, the Chinese captured and tortured POW's from the British and French armies In retaliation, their militarys looted and burned down most of the palace (and most of them hated it, as it was demoralizing work). as SaveChinaTiger said below, there are always two sides to every story.
@zennnbuddha you shames stupit , do not understand history , how british educate you.you should say sorry and feel shame that you had destroyed human civilation .if barbaric is correct way in british rich police , you should go back to school and ask you british teach if it is right thing that you have done!
@Liuyifeng19 okay, 1. I am not a brit. 2. you have a problem with your temper. I suggest you control it. 3. the british aren't going to simply allow people from your nation to burn down their palace just because of a crime / war they had in the past.
The British obviously do not want it, but if China ever grows strong enough, that may be done. After all, did the Chinese want the Europeans and Japanese to burn down the Old Summer Palace? Bismarck was right - it is all about blood and iron.
just look at you comments , you British obeviously do not want it , but in the history british Colonial other countries development great britain 's economic , that has been said you were good on sicent ,but that doesnt mean british were the most rich country such as China.
as the world people know Gardens and Garden were collection every individual masterpieces large from western and eastern 's even little small things such as jewelry and the most famous master piece of panting,you should feel shame of you barbaric behave ,
you british/Frech ruin the most beautiful world wonder , it is not just pity for chinese , it also pity for the world people who will never see the master piece of western and esatern architectures and human civilaztion .we don't blame you , but you robbers name will mark in every generation 's heart.
Oh - and the British still have stuff they looted from the palace on display at the British Museum, and have said they will not return them. If they want to stop pouring salt into old wounds, they should reconsider that. Or should the Chinese make them into debt slaves in order to have them change their minds?
No matter how the British and French tried to spin their version of their story to show how civilized they were, the Chinese only know that they were the barbarians who pushed dope to the Chinese people.
"Two robbers breaking into a museum, devastating, looting and burning, leaving, laughing hand-in-hand with their bags full of treasures; one of the robbers is called France and the other Britain." - Victor Hugo.
Those so-called "priests" raped young Chinese girls! I'm amazed that sorfinn has the guts to defend such barbarian things in the name of god. It's laughable that drug dealers, opium traders, rapists, thieves, war mongers, and bullies think that they somehow occupy moral highland in the world. Delusion? Arrogance? Or simply inhuman mentality?
I think people who are the Chinese should watch this film. Although this had been the history , invaders souldn't forget what they had done. They burn the most beautiful building in 1800s. It's very unbelievable.
snorfinn, someone kick you in the face, if you hit back, he will be inocent? and you will be also a barbarian? your barstard logic just prove you are stupid and mentally retarded.
snorfinn ,I think you just want to justify what the British and French had done to chinese. I think the chinese had the right kill the British and French invaders, they were over there illegaly. so, why don't you just shut up snorfinn, you are just one stupide son of bitch justifying these shit invisions by your bastard salop ancestors.
Sir, you are wrong. I know snorfinn was a little over-reacting, but unlike what you think, colonism was strong at that time. They sold opium and getting land and money everywhere. They have done a lot of bad things which we probably cannot feel but those are obiously written in the history of other countries(not only China but also other countries). Cololism obviously helped europe becoming the richest place, and of course you feel different from ppl there and maybe learned differerntly too
All Chinese people seem to know about this "humiliation", but none of them seem to care about WHY the invaders decided to burn it. If China had not tortured and executed prisoners of war (also a big "humiliation"), Yuanming Yuan would still be standing today. YES, Europeans had no right to invade China, but please forget about your nationalism for a second and try to learn all aspects of this tragedy before you start your your racist tirades.
I am not justifying "barbarism". The only reason you could describe the burning of Yuanmingyuan as unprovoked and unilateral barbarism is if you are ignorant of the fact that it was carried out in retribution of the Chinese torture and murder of 20 Westerners sent to negotiate with the Chinese under a flag of truce, an act more "barbaric" than burning down a palace if you ask me. Chinese people don't learn about THAT in school, which is why they talk about "humiliation".
Well you are actually justifying barbarism by simply defending this act! One of the only positive legacies that the human race leaves on this earth is its priceless heritage in art and architecture. This act flys in the face of civilized practice. In retribution for the acts of the "uncivilized chinamen" the british and french acted ; yes, you guessed it; like uncivilised animals!
Again, I am NOT defending it, I am merely pointing out that there were TWO acts of barbarism here, not just one. Most Chinese people fully believe that the sacking was entirely unprovoked because their government has been feeding them a politicized account of the events that conveniently skips the part about the torture and murders the Chinese committed (the direct cause for the destruction of the palace) and then goes on about how the Westerners were "barbaric". It's a deceitful account.
You want us CHINESE PEOPLE think why Europeans committed a crime in China?Sorry ,I can't undertand why ,because I can't undertand your uncivilized culture.
SuperQQ11: I had to wait until I left China to reply to you since YouTube is blocked there. (Apparently your "civilized" country can't handle such "barbaric" things as freedom of speech.) Anyway, the real reason why you can't understand why the Europeans did this is because you are ignorant. Chinese kids probably don't learn about this in school, but the fact is that the Europeans sent three dozen men to negotiate with the Chinese under a flag of truce.
What we learned in school was 己所不欲，勿施于人DO NOT TO DO OTHERS WAHT YOU DONT WANT TO BE DONE TO YOU！We have mature standard of behavior and ethics,so we know what we is right or not and we have the courage to be responsible for consequence if we do something wrong.Not quibble because of someone have the same behavior before so what you have done is right!!That is gangster logic！！！
Did I say it was right? No, I didn't. I explicitly said it was WRONG. Several times. Please learn to read. Was it right of the Chinese to torture and murder those prisoners? No, that was wrong too. Or perhaps you disagree? In any case, again all I am asking here is that you fucking acknowledge the actual chain of events and not try to make it seem as if the sacking of Yuanmingyuan was entirely unprovoked.
As we can see you are a good sample of barbarian,chinese people never ask for repayment for what the Europeans has done to us,even we never blame of their sin,we just exposit the history what had happened in China.
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They were all tortured by the Chinese, and 20 of them were killed after being tortured so bad that their bodies could barely be recognized. That's why the Europeans decided to sack Yuanmingyuan. It was intended as punishment for these murders. Again, I am not saying the Europeans were innocent, they certainly were not, but don't pretend that the Chinese weren't guilty of barbaric acts themselves and that the burning of Yuanmingyuan was entirely unprovoked.
chinese immense culture can't be understood by the other historyless country forever; chinese origion is almost equal to the whole human history, when some foreigner is to accuse china, just look at your poor country first,what it have?
"chinese origin is almost equal to the whole human history, when some foreigner is to accuse china, just look at your poor country first,what it have?"
If China were "almost equal to the whole of human history" we would not have computers, the Internet, electricity, cars, trains, telephones, planes, sattelites, clocks, nuclear power, radio, TV, video, antibiotics, capitalism, communism, liberalism, etc, etc.
The guy you dissed is from Hong Kong! Don't blame Taiwanese. Get your facts straight. Do look at kingrichard91's comment. He said "i hope china rebuilds the desecrated palace in the future when they get prosperous!!! i really want to see how it looks like in there w/ the eastern and western architecture." This guy is from Taiwan! Now who's more educated?
i hope china rebuilds the desecrated palace in the future when they get prosperous!!! i really want to see how it looks like in there w/ the eastern and western architecture.
They are not going to do it. They are going to keep it like this to teach future generations the consequences of being invaded or dominated by foreigners...
I'm UK born & after seeing Yaun Ming Yuan 4 the 1st time in my life I felt regret being British. We destroyed the eighth wonder of the world not because we needed to, just because we could. How far have we fallen? We can't even build an air port terminal in UK that works after 20yrs trying, Beijing built theirs with Lord Foster in just 4yrs, the largest building in the world. Now every thing in my home in OZ is made in China, even the wife.
It was nothing to do with just because we could, it was in revenge for the torture and murder of diplomats sent to negotiate a peace and their escorts. A note was left on the gates informing them excatly why it was done. I state this to correct your post, i do not condone what happend to the gardens and from articles i have read the troops and intellectuals were not to happy about doing it either. You regret being British and clearly have an issue with the place, good riddance.
Dear sepiasilence, not quite fair because why did we have to be there trying to "make Peace" in the 1st place. The Chinese did NOT invade England and demand we do business with them or we would sail their navel ships into our harbors and bombard their cities. We did that to them. We started the opium wars and grabbed Hong Kong. I don't regret being British but I do apologize for the things we did in the Empire's name, & not just in China, we were bastards to all equally.
RESPECT, if the rest of the people in the world would think the way you do, their will be much less arguments among the countries. Greetings from China.
Well, China did get back Hong Kong from England. I think that it's a start of a new relation between the two countries. France on the other hand...anybody have any comment(s)?
I still feel pain when I am watching this.Meanwhile I think the ruins themselves could better serve as a reminder for all Chinese presenting how importent it is to be a strong power in this world where nothing but power really matters.I hate it to say like this though but we've learned our lesson.
I don't feel hatred,I only mourn for the beauty lost. What was done was awful.I believe if they truly believe in justice and what they believe is right that they would return the things they robbed us of some many years ago.
To remember humiliation is not to revenge, but is to understand how important is being strong. We will protect the ruins forever, and the sleeping dragon is awake now.
every time when some foreigners say there is no human rights in china, I remember what they did to us before. Where did their human rights go at that time. Return those treasure they robbed and stole away from China.
I think what's more important is to learn the lesson that we should spend more efforts on protecting the historic heritage. During wenge(culture revolution) in China, there're probably more Chinese cultural heritage destroyed. Yuanmingyuan is indeed an extremely sad issue, but hatred can never solve the problem, all we have to know is not to let the cultural heritage be destroyed again, whether indirectly by foreigners or directly by ourselves. Just my personal humble opinions, no offense..peace
This movie is amazing!!! Thanks to these scientists and artists for making them shown so vividly again!!! I think it is meaningless to remember what people did this to us, but why we allowed them to do this and who gave them the chance to destroy this beautiful construction? There is nothing right or wrong, just rule of "the weak are the prey of the strong", the law of jungle, the human nature - greedy. In other words, I don't think China never invaded, robbed and destroyed others' homes.
Europeans and Americans never taught their children about their incredible deeds in China eh? And they think they have the right to criticize China about everything and anything.
dont be stupid, coming from a country whos web access is highly censored by the state, the youth only know foggy details of the tiananmen square incident if knowing of it at all and people so desperate they set themselves alight in the street, the list is endless, europe and america are far from perfect i admit, but neither is china
I got this movie too. I am thinking of uploading it to the youtube for broader coverage. It is really nice. But the movie is 330M. Does anyone know how to break the movie into smaller part < 100M?
good luck, they have been dead for quite a while now kid, can i punc you becuase a chinese man punched my great great great grandfather? Europes imperial past is over, if any world power invaded another nuclear weapons would just start flying, this is why conflicts happen in weak countries as battlefields with world powers funding them and pumping troops in, nobody will pay twice for anything, grow up
I think people should calm down a little bit - we need to look to the future while not forgetting the past. Still, we need to remember that revenge would lower ourselves to the level of the British and the French, so instead, we must continue the course of economic development and beat them without ever firing a shot. Oh, and work harder to make the British Museum and Louvre return national treasures taken from the Old Summer Palace.
Bournetolive 1 week ago
The irony of the Old Summer Palace is that a good portion of it was built along European Baroque lines, with input from European (mostly Italian) architects. Odd how the Qing wanted to copy "barbarian" palace architecture. Hence the preponderance of stone at the site--traditional Chinese buildings are almost all made of wood. If not for European architects, the stone ruins you see today would not be there. History is funny how it works sometimes.
pdruiz2005 2 months ago
@pdruiz2005
Yeah, we see the stone remains because they didn't turn into ashes, unlike the Chinese part (which was very large) built from wood which had been completely razed by the fire. And even if there were no European architecture, the Chinese-style canals and bridges (made from stone) would still be present.
Bournetolive 1 week ago
Don't see how the point can even be debated. France and England went to China and insisted that it must trade with them? Why should China be obligated to do that? and that it must allow drugs to be peddled in its country because they insist? Failing which UK and France invades, kills its citizens and loots. The protagonists are not even border states where disputes can be expected. The French/British traveled a long way to find trouble with a peaceful China that just wanted to be left alone
thesoapboxstand 9 months ago
@thesoapboxstand
You are fucking uneducated that you don't understand history , you country well know you were robbers and you goverment rely on unfair war to become rich country .and you country want to cover this shameless british/french robbers history therefore they never mention it in you history book, however you now you were barbaric country , who rely on plunder and ruin human civilaztion because western power full country .We feel shame on you small countries rude behavore
TheUndine27 1 week ago
This place will always be in this state, so that our descendants will not forget to always be strong and have dignity, that when others try to bring enslave them, they will resist. That is the lesson that is being taught and will continue to be taught by this event.
Bournetolive 10 months ago
@Chinastar85 During the Opium Wars, the Chinese captured and tortured POW's from the British and French armies In retaliation, their militarys looted and burned down most of the palace (and most of them hated it, as it was demoralizing work). as SaveChinaTiger said below, there are always two sides to every story.
gamingspawner 1 year ago
@gamingspawner British and French shouldn't be in China in the first place and the Westerners drugged China with opium.
zennnbuddha 1 year ago
@zennnbuddha you shames stupit , do not understand history , how british educate you.you should say sorry and feel shame that you had destroyed human civilation .if barbaric is correct way in british rich police , you should go back to school and ask you british teach if it is right thing that you have done!
TheUndine27 1 week ago
@gamingspawner fuck you britan sold opium to chinese that is crime against humanity you brits need buckingham palace burned
Liuyifeng19 1 year ago
@Liuyifeng19 okay, 1. I am not a brit. 2. you have a problem with your temper. I suggest you control it. 3. the british aren't going to simply allow people from your nation to burn down their palace just because of a crime / war they had in the past.
gamingspawner 1 year ago
@gamingspawner
The British obviously do not want it, but if China ever grows strong enough, that may be done. After all, did the Chinese want the Europeans and Japanese to burn down the Old Summer Palace? Bismarck was right - it is all about blood and iron.
Bournetolive 10 months ago
just look at you comments , you British obeviously do not want it , but in the history british Colonial other countries development great britain 's economic , that has been said you were good on sicent ,but that doesnt mean british were the most rich country such as China.
TheUndine27 1 week ago
as the world people know Gardens and Garden were collection every individual masterpieces large from western and eastern 's even little small things such as jewelry and the most famous master piece of panting,you should feel shame of you barbaric behave ,
TheUndine27 1 week ago
you british/Frech ruin the most beautiful world wonder , it is not just pity for chinese , it also pity for the world people who will never see the master piece of western and esatern architectures and human civilaztion .we don't blame you , but you robbers name will mark in every generation 's heart.
TheUndine27 1 week ago
@gamingspawner
Oh - and the British still have stuff they looted from the palace on display at the British Museum, and have said they will not return them. If they want to stop pouring salt into old wounds, they should reconsider that. Or should the Chinese make them into debt slaves in order to have them change their minds?
Bournetolive 10 months ago
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@Bournetolive Hi British barbaric , here you answere are THE CHINESE PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENT MUST NOT TRUST THEM 100%
WESTERNERS HAVE 2 FACES, ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS THEM IS GOOD.
WE MUST BE RICH AND STRONG AND WELL EDUCATED SO AS NOT TO BE BULLIED AGAIN. WE WILL GET BACK THOSE TREASURES ONE DAY FOR SURE
TheUndine27 1 week ago
@gamingspawner
@gamingspawner
No matter how the British and French tried to spin their version of their story to show how civilized they were, the Chinese only know that they were the barbarians who pushed dope to the Chinese people.
"Two robbers breaking into a museum, devastating, looting and burning, leaving, laughing hand-in-hand with their bags full of treasures; one of the robbers is called France and the other Britain." - Victor Hugo.
twenlil 6 months ago
Those British and French behaved like Talibans back then, and now they are preaching democracy and human rights to China, how hypocritical is this!
whateverrule 1 year ago
I'm from the United States, where can I find the documentary? I couldn't find it in ebay or amazon. Thanks.
llz611 1 year ago
@llz611 NM...i found it! Can't wait!
llz611 1 year ago
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@llz611 ihave a chinese version with english caption. if u want it just email me, weikaiyu@hotmail.com
weikaiyu 1 year ago
There is always two sides to a story.
SaveChinaTiger 1 year ago
Those so-called "priests" raped young Chinese girls! I'm amazed that sorfinn has the guts to defend such barbarian things in the name of god. It's laughable that drug dealers, opium traders, rapists, thieves, war mongers, and bullies think that they somehow occupy moral highland in the world. Delusion? Arrogance? Or simply inhuman mentality?
russiangymfan 2 years ago
I think people who are the Chinese should watch this film. Although this had been the history , invaders souldn't forget what they had done. They burn the most beautiful building in 1800s. It's very unbelievable.
mitsuhiko45 2 years ago 4
snorfinn, someone kick you in the face, if you hit back, he will be inocent? and you will be also a barbarian? your barstard logic just prove you are stupid and mentally retarded.
colguy11 2 years ago
snorfinn ,I think you just want to justify what the British and French had done to chinese. I think the chinese had the right kill the British and French invaders, they were over there illegaly. so, why don't you just shut up snorfinn, you are just one stupide son of bitch justifying these shit invisions by your bastard salop ancestors.
colguy11 2 years ago
Sir, you are wrong. I know snorfinn was a little over-reacting, but unlike what you think, colonism was strong at that time. They sold opium and getting land and money everywhere. They have done a lot of bad things which we probably cannot feel but those are obiously written in the history of other countries(not only China but also other countries). Cololism obviously helped europe becoming the richest place, and of course you feel different from ppl there and maybe learned differerntly too
choikyo 2 years ago
national humilation is unforgettable.
niagu 2 years ago 3
Thank for sharing !
red8hk 2 years ago
All Chinese people seem to know about this "humiliation", but none of them seem to care about WHY the invaders decided to burn it. If China had not tortured and executed prisoners of war (also a big "humiliation"), Yuanming Yuan would still be standing today. YES, Europeans had no right to invade China, but please forget about your nationalism for a second and try to learn all aspects of this tragedy before you start your your racist tirades.
snorfinn 2 years ago
as you said, "Europeans had no right to invade China" so dont justify the barbarism of this act!
xxxcutchie 2 years ago 3
I am not justifying "barbarism". The only reason you could describe the burning of Yuanmingyuan as unprovoked and unilateral barbarism is if you are ignorant of the fact that it was carried out in retribution of the Chinese torture and murder of 20 Westerners sent to negotiate with the Chinese under a flag of truce, an act more "barbaric" than burning down a palace if you ask me. Chinese people don't learn about THAT in school, which is why they talk about "humiliation".
snorfinn 2 years ago
Well you are actually justifying barbarism by simply defending this act! One of the only positive legacies that the human race leaves on this earth is its priceless heritage in art and architecture. This act flys in the face of civilized practice. In retribution for the acts of the "uncivilized chinamen" the british and french acted ; yes, you guessed it; like uncivilised animals!
xxxcutchie 2 years ago
Again, I am NOT defending it, I am merely pointing out that there were TWO acts of barbarism here, not just one. Most Chinese people fully believe that the sacking was entirely unprovoked because their government has been feeding them a politicized account of the events that conveniently skips the part about the torture and murders the Chinese committed (the direct cause for the destruction of the palace) and then goes on about how the Westerners were "barbaric". It's a deceitful account.
snorfinn 2 years ago
You want us CHINESE PEOPLE think why Europeans committed a crime in China?Sorry ,I can't undertand why ,because I can't undertand your uncivilized culture.
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
SuperQQ11: I had to wait until I left China to reply to you since YouTube is blocked there. (Apparently your "civilized" country can't handle such "barbaric" things as freedom of speech.) Anyway, the real reason why you can't understand why the Europeans did this is because you are ignorant. Chinese kids probably don't learn about this in school, but the fact is that the Europeans sent three dozen men to negotiate with the Chinese under a flag of truce.
snorfinn 2 years ago
What we learned in school was 己所不欲，勿施于人DO NOT TO DO OTHERS WAHT YOU DONT WANT TO BE DONE TO YOU！We have mature standard of behavior and ethics,so we know what we is right or not and we have the courage to be responsible for consequence if we do something wrong.Not quibble because of someone have the same behavior before so what you have done is right!!That is gangster logic！！！
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
Sorry ,a little bit mistake .The translation is "Do not do to others what you don't want to be done to you."Something like this.
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
Did I say it was right? No, I didn't. I explicitly said it was WRONG. Several times. Please learn to read. Was it right of the Chinese to torture and murder those prisoners? No, that was wrong too. Or perhaps you disagree? In any case, again all I am asking here is that you fucking acknowledge the actual chain of events and not try to make it seem as if the sacking of Yuanmingyuan was entirely unprovoked.
snorfinn 2 years ago
As we can see you are a good sample of barbarian,chinese people never ask for repayment for what the Europeans has done to us,even we never blame of their sin,we just exposit the history what had happened in China.
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
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They were all tortured by the Chinese, and 20 of them were killed after being tortured so bad that their bodies could barely be recognized. That's why the Europeans decided to sack Yuanmingyuan. It was intended as punishment for these murders. Again, I am not saying the Europeans were innocent, they certainly were not, but don't pretend that the Chinese weren't guilty of barbaric acts themselves and that the burning of Yuanmingyuan was entirely unprovoked.
snorfinn 2 years ago
But now you blame us that we wouldn't exposing the truth because we deserve to be invaded without any legitimate reasons.
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
what a ridiculous theory!
SuperQQ11 2 years ago
勿忘国耻 牢记历史 !
caojingyu 3 years ago
哈哈，世界奇迹就是当时被打的这么惨!
不要在缅怀过去啦，要向前看，向前向前!
loveinbabyCN 3 years ago
不要了，我们不要那些狗头猫头驴头的了，二炮准备，目标卢浮宫，轰
qiaoermiao 3 years ago
世界奇迹就这样被强盗洗劫并焚烧了 真的让人痛心啊，这可是世界人民的文化遗产啊！想想现在法国来在拍卖圆明园的东西真为他们感到羞耻！
fnite20034 3 years ago
chinese immense culture can't be understood by the other historyless country forever; chinese origion is almost equal to the whole human history, when some foreigner is to accuse china, just look at your poor country first,what it have?
backaway2008 3 years ago
"chinese origin is almost equal to the whole human history, when some foreigner is to accuse china, just look at your poor country first,what it have?"
If China were "almost equal to the whole of human history" we would not have computers, the Internet, electricity, cars, trains, telephones, planes, sattelites, clocks, nuclear power, radio, TV, video, antibiotics, capitalism, communism, liberalism, etc, etc.
snorfinn 2 years ago
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聯外抗清,燒得好!燒得好!
感謝外國友人我們終於從pigtail和野蠻人的統治中解放出來了^^
onewayticket2007 3 years ago
疯人院放假了？
wazgrm 3 years ago
不,是猪圈垮了
opeeum69 3 years ago
面对你的无知，我不晓得该说什么了，你要知道，圆明园不只是清朝统治者或者满族的遗产，而是中华民族几千年来的智慧所凝结！它属于的是整个中华民族！如果你是大陆人我不相信大陆学生还有你这种无脑儿，如果你是台湾人，我真替台湾教育感到悲哀，难道台湾政界一天到晚打架，你们也在打架？
uum007 3 years ago
The guy you dissed is from Hong Kong! Don't blame Taiwanese. Get your facts straight. Do look at kingrichard91's comment. He said "i hope china rebuilds the desecrated palace in the future when they get prosperous!!! i really want to see how it looks like in there w/ the eastern and western architecture." This guy is from Taiwan! Now who's more educated?
raininthesouth 3 years ago
i hope china rebuilds the desecrated palace in the future when they get prosperous!!! i really want to see how it looks like in there w/ the eastern and western architecture.
kingrichard91 3 years ago
They are not going to do it. They are going to keep it like this to teach future generations the consequences of being invaded or dominated by foreigners...
cooki33girl 3 years ago 2
I'm UK born & after seeing Yaun Ming Yuan 4 the 1st time in my life I felt regret being British. We destroyed the eighth wonder of the world not because we needed to, just because we could. How far have we fallen? We can't even build an air port terminal in UK that works after 20yrs trying, Beijing built theirs with Lord Foster in just 4yrs, the largest building in the world. Now every thing in my home in OZ is made in China, even the wife.
Templemain 3 years ago 3
It was nothing to do with just because we could, it was in revenge for the torture and murder of diplomats sent to negotiate a peace and their escorts. A note was left on the gates informing them excatly why it was done. I state this to correct your post, i do not condone what happend to the gardens and from articles i have read the troops and intellectuals were not to happy about doing it either. You regret being British and clearly have an issue with the place, good riddance.
sepiasilence 3 years ago
Dear sepiasilence, not quite fair because why did we have to be there trying to "make Peace" in the 1st place. The Chinese did NOT invade England and demand we do business with them or we would sail their navel ships into our harbors and bombard their cities. We did that to them. We started the opium wars and grabbed Hong Kong. I don't regret being British but I do apologize for the things we did in the Empire's name, & not just in China, we were bastards to all equally.
Templemain 3 years ago
RESPECT, if the rest of the people in the world would think the way you do, their will be much less arguments among the countries. Greetings from China.
sunzhenyufrank 3 years ago
it was burnt down by stupid Europeens at that time
wearejusthumanbeing 3 years ago
我们都很气愤，但是要记住，骂人发脾气是没用的。
最重要的是，要自己先自强，我们祖先的过错已经是很好的教训，希望我们将来强大，没有人再"敢"欺负我们！
自己多学本事将来为祖国献份力是爱国的最好方法。
还有永远记住，不要为了已有的成就而感到自满，骄傲，这样反而再次会导致悲剧的发生。中国曾经就是太自以为 是，才会被日欧赶超！
永远要保持低调和谦虚！
shishila 3 years ago 2
Well, China did get back Hong Kong from England. I think that it's a start of a new relation between the two countries. France on the other hand...anybody have any comment(s)?
goodwillchy 3 years ago
I still feel pain when I am watching this.Meanwhile I think the ruins themselves could better serve as a reminder for all Chinese presenting how importent it is to be a strong power in this world where nothing but power really matters.I hate it to say like this though but we've learned our lesson.
Peace to everybody.
provisos 4 years ago 2
I think the garden & park should be restored though. Just the pools, lake & bridges, but not the buildings. It would be beautiful.
vsovereign 4 years ago
I don't feel hatred,I only mourn for the beauty lost. What was done was awful.I believe if they truly believe in justice and what they believe is right that they would return the things they robbed us of some many years ago.
AzureSunrize 4 years ago
To remember humiliation is not to revenge, but is to understand how important is being strong. We will protect the ruins forever, and the sleeping dragon is awake now.
grasille 4 years ago 9
Britain+France=2Robbers
grasille 4 years ago 3
awful.....
catmandy0805 4 years ago
Let's burn down Barkingham Palace and Louvre. It should be fun.
YinduDalit 4 years ago
-_- All you people can think about is vengence...
dojokonojo 4 years ago
fuck Europeans!!!!!!!!!!
hym1216 4 years ago 2
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poor fuck
GermanicRose 4 years ago
Are you RACIST?!?! Please show some respect for other people's culture. Because you are only making a complete jackass of yourself.
goodwillchy 3 years ago
every time when some foreigners say there is no human rights in china, I remember what they did to us before. Where did their human rights go at that time. Return those treasure they robbed and stole away from China.
TallestAlba 4 years ago 29
I think what's more important is to learn the lesson that we should spend more efforts on protecting the historic heritage. During wenge(culture revolution) in China, there're probably more Chinese cultural heritage destroyed. Yuanmingyuan is indeed an extremely sad issue, but hatred can never solve the problem, all we have to know is not to let the cultural heritage be destroyed again, whether indirectly by foreigners or directly by ourselves. Just my personal humble opinions, no offense..peace
sandietje 4 years ago 2
This movie is amazing!!! Thanks to these scientists and artists for making them shown so vividly again!!! I think it is meaningless to remember what people did this to us, but why we allowed them to do this and who gave them the chance to destroy this beautiful construction? There is nothing right or wrong, just rule of "the weak are the prey of the strong", the law of jungle, the human nature - greedy. In other words, I don't think China never invaded, robbed and destroyed others' homes.
sandietje 4 years ago
Europeans and Americans never taught their children about their incredible deeds in China eh? And they think they have the right to criticize China about everything and anything.
hellowjp 4 years ago
dont be stupid, coming from a country whos web access is highly censored by the state, the youth only know foggy details of the tiananmen square incident if knowing of it at all and people so desperate they set themselves alight in the street, the list is endless, europe and america are far from perfect i admit, but neither is china
sepiasilence 3 years ago
never forget what they did to US!
fbfamous 5 years ago
I think the Europeans still remember what they did to us.
That's why they bark of 'China threat' all the time.
We Chinese don't have any reason to forget what happened.
fkeuropean 5 years ago 2
and what is your reason for blaming us still? more hate in the world? what a logical and typical chinese statement ;)
GermanicRose 4 years ago
my opinion locates on it was not only western invaders's fault,china was too weak at that time. But it will never be again; )
kylie131 4 years ago
where to get the movie?
vsovereign 5 years ago
I got this movie too. I am thinking of uploading it to the youtube for broader coverage. It is really nice. But the movie is 330M. Does anyone know how to break the movie into smaller part < 100M?
bllshb 5 years ago
I just want to cry
baby7258 5 years ago
very nice, i got this movie
siewsphone 5 years ago
who ever destoried yuanmin yuan, they will pay twice price for it.
thanks88 5 years ago
good luck, they have been dead for quite a while now kid, can i punc you becuase a chinese man punched my great great great grandfather? Europes imperial past is over, if any world power invaded another nuclear weapons would just start flying, this is why conflicts happen in weak countries as battlefields with world powers funding them and pumping troops in, nobody will pay twice for anything, grow up
sepiasilence 3 years ago