Buddhagem Speaks with Noam Chomsky on May Day, 2009 (1/4)

[themaniusedtob]

mr1001nights should be the one to have done this interview buddhagem is a feminist idiot who doesnt understand that feminism also keeps the capitalist agenda moving around and around.

[johnnysecular]

"If you are a serious revolutionary, and you are not looking for an autocratic revolution but a popular one which will move towards freedom and democracy, you wanna have the mass of the population implementing this revolution and carrying it out and solving problems and so on. And they're not gonna do it until they have discovered for themselves that there are limits to reform. So a sensible revolutionary will try to push reform to the limit."

[allanps1979]

I just want to hug noam chomsky he seems like such a great old guy

[Gettinghitonattheban]

That's what I mean. We don't to reform the 18th amendment, we need to ABOLISH it. Reformation isn't saying get rid of a law. It's saying tweak the vocabulary. That's what happened to slavery. You had reformist and abolitionist. Reformist said slavery would always be there, so I suppose the least we can do is improve slave conditions. Abolitionists saw through the bullshit. What I mean is those wishy washing moderate liberal Democrats who think health care reform actually reformed healthcare.

[leland61]

Great interview with a truly great thinker. Thanks for posting this.

[matsutakneatche]

the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776

Bolshevik Revolution October 1917- ??????

[Gettinghitonattheban]

Reformation is masturbation. It's simply the state's why of putting more obligations onto it's subjects. It's a mere accommodation.

[beejusbeejus]

I just don't understand how this guy gets anything done. He mustn't have any research responsibilities anymore. He spends his whole day giving interviews.

And it's not like he's saying anything he hasn't already said a thousand times.

[beejusbeejus]

Wow, this is a rare find: an interview with Noam Chomsky!

[Chomskyan]

is that sarcasm?

[beejusbeejus]

nothin' but

lol :)

[Mechelle68]

Wow...his office looks a lot like mine. HIs books are as unorganized and scattered as mine are. Now I don't feel so bad...heh.

Great interview, Dave.

[getplaning]

oiuoiu988 is just a troll who spends his days spamming videos with copy and paste slogans. Block him and forget him.

[realizerealitynow]

You cannot change a closed mind.

[oiuoiu988]

i love how in the fantasy world these 2 douchebags live in anarchy means totalitarianism and freedom means either forcing people to do things or everyone just magically agreeing on what to do.

Great Job!

[oiuoiu988]

wow, a video of two morons talking about their conspiracy theories. chomsky looks like he's almost dead, thats awesome.

[Chomskyan]

which part of it was about conspiracy theories? I missed that.

[oiuoiu988]

the part about how your boss and your landlord are your oppressors, dont act like you dont know.

[Chomskyan]

that's just institutional analysis. maybe you don't know the difference?

[oiuoiu988]

hahaha. ok have fun with your imaginary class war!

PANTENE FOR EVERYONE!!!

right??

[Chomskyan]

why not.

have fun trolling.

[oiuoiu988]

one man's trolling is another man's quest to find the person who will prove him wrong or change his mind...

[99missingperson99]

Imaginary class war? What world do you live in? Ingnorance is bliss , apparently.

[oiuoiu988]

its called reality...

i was a leftist when i was your age too.

[DefenceSpeech]

"If you get to a point where the existing institutions simply will not bend to the popular will, well you've got to eliminate the institutions."

~ Noam Chomsky

[peterfdrucker]

Thanks for posting this!

Keep it up.

[redwoodforesttwo]

For confederalsocialist: Why? Can you explain this more specifically?

[djboony]

he means a man who belives he is doing good is capable of great inhumanity. every tyrant in history belived he was doing good by his fellow man

[redwoodforesttwo]

For djboony: This is not true at all. Everybody in politics believes they are doing good in one way or another. But not everybody in politics is causing great inhumanity. There are political activsts today who claim to do good, but promote hate and war. And there are political activsts who also claim to do good, but they promote peace and love. And visions of spectacular beauty are not a prelude to barbarism at all. It depends on what people find beautiful. Preferences are often created by TV.

[djboony]

yes but everyone who does do great inhumanity belives they are doing good

[redwoodforesttwo]

For djboony: Not everyone of the crooks thinks they are doing good, some of them are aware that they are stealing from the planet, but they don't care, they have no conscience. But I guess most of them kid themselves into believing that they are doing good things. I have seen it how some people twist the facts in their minds to feel better about what they are doing. This is what a corrupt mind is. That's why strong positive and some strict incentives are necessary in a political system.

[redwoodforesttwo]

Why can't people move out of the big cities? Why did they stay? People can stand up peacefully and say no to oppression of any sort. They can walk out. They can move to less populated areas and homestead land and build simple homes. Today there is only one solution to the world's crisis, and that is becoming localized and simple in our life styles. The largest problem in our society is that people want what they see on TV, they want what is portrayed as important. But it is really not important.

[spits32]

correct, it's what chomsky refers to as "fashionable consumption"

[djdtpackers]

Chomsky is looking terrible.

But he is brilliant!

[jammoexii]

Considering he's 80 years old and his wife of 60 years just died, he's looking fantastic. If I'd put that kind of work in for as long as he has, I'd be dead.

[lucretius4]

I second that.

[oiuoiu988]

no, he looks like he's about to die, and that makes me think im about to laugh.

[leeason1]

@jammoexii I wish all leftists would die.

[Nederlandac]

He is old.

He looks cute:).

[tristramshandy3]

when 900 years old you reach, look this good you will not.

[franks2732]

In comradeship from Australia

[onlywhenprovoked]

great interview

[Kingarthur305]

How lame can you be? Grammer checking YouTube entries and coming to a conclusion on education level by that. I wonder what kind of education you have.

[Xsublime28xX]

Thanks Buddhagem and Chomskyan

[7jerryv7]

@3:00 -3:50 - I assume that Chomsky, when speaking about changing institutions, is talking about violent change after reform does not align the governent with popular attitudes. Also, he argues strongly in favor of legitimate authority. At what point do people have the legitimate authority to use violence against the state?

Health care - 45-50 million Amercans go without.. Would this make it legitimate to use force if reforms are not passed?  What type of force?

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Thanks Buddhagem. Must have been great to interview him.

The talk about pushing reform to the limits is really interesting.

[7jerryv7]

Buddhagem - great interview. Thanx

[mogem]

Noam does look tired. It must be, besides age, the burden of caring so much information.

[leeason1]

@mogem Noam is a millionaire. His fee to lecture at universities is $12,000. He couldn't care less about the poor.

[aGothicStory]

@leeason1 No he's a hypocrite in many ways who still manages to care about the poor by working tirelessly to spread information that you could not hope to receive through any mainstream news giant.

[leeason1]

@aGothicStory Oh, so it's alright to be a millionaire as long as you "spread information". Got it.

[ZamatoElite]

Chomsky is right about Wilson. That president was so oppressive.

[metalorg]

Boy, Chomsky is looking more and more like Billy Crystal in The Princess Bride - just less crazy and more intelligent.

[Kingarthur305]

Reagan is the man. He stuck a knive in the labor moment. God Bless his soul. I hope Chomsky can do something instead of living his whole life in a University. No wonder he's so wishy washy and unreal. All the things he stands on are unrealistic fantasies.

I guess the young liberal college kids love him. O well they'll grow up.

[SmokiSounds]

I guess you love sucking some government dick. Oh well, to each their own.

[Kingarthur305]

lol, I have to admit, I like you. That's funny.

[SmokiSounds]

Oh I know, I'm that kinda guy.

[onlywhenprovoked]

kingarthur305

don't worry about things like education, that doesn't concern people like you. Just leave these discussions to people with average intelligence and above.

oh and by the way :

singular = knife

plural = knives

[Kingarthur305]

Another petty English teacher you are.

[Kingarthur305]

What's your education level?

[7jerryv7]

Trolling,eh?

[dbrockttu]

"cool" @ 3:50 lol

[7jerryv7]

I have rarely heard Chomsky discuss changing institutions and regimes, especially the US, and the argument of using coercion as self-defense is really astounding

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Yes, quite rare to hear Chomsky talk of force.

[leeason1]

@CapitalistHolocaust Yeah because it's not like Stalin invaded all of the Baltic states in the USSR or anything. Yeah, communism never used force, LOL.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

@leeason1

How is this relevant? 

[ADumbUsername]

I don't think this is a very radical position -certainly no more so than the "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends (i.e. life, liberty, persuit of happiness), it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it" in the U.S. constitution. Note that he only advocates coercion where (when?) existing institutions do not admit reform.

[7jerryv7]

True, but Chomsky, from my understanding, tends towards peaceful solutions. He is not a pacifist but does not talk often (I have actually never heard him before) discuss when coercion is acceptable. Given his argument that authority must justify itself, and most people would argue that the authority to use coercion should have the highest threashold, he actually provides a fairly easy litmus test for the use of coercion. You are right - he is consistent with Thomas Jefferson and DofI.

[bigchuck333]

Enlightening interview!

[Costign]

A truly beautiful human being.