Plasma Electrolysis with tap water

[RobotN001]

it is boiling =) not efficient electrolysis 

[marthinus007]

@RobotN001 You are correct, having water boil during electrolysis wastes a lot of energy, but since this is plasma electrolysis and not conventional electrolysis, the story is a little different. You actually WANT to produce the heat, cause heating an element will at a certain temperature change it into the fourth state of matter - plasma. Unfortunately a lot of the energy is in a form where you cannot directly use it. I have suggestions to utilize wasted energy to enhance the process...

[freakqnc]

What's the liters per minute production you get?

[marthinus007]

@freakqnc Unfortunately I could never measure it, I moved on to miniturizing the entire process. What I can tell you is that there are 2 x 6mm holes in the plastic lid and they are not enough to release the gas and the pressure. The lid goes soft from the heat and stops sealing the container and gas comes from below the lid also. I am quite sure that the gasses consist of more steam than HHO, but the result is still spectacular...

[moniker127]

Did someone fire up one of those guns from the amiga game other world too long?

[tonysie]

does this thg goes explode after a long time?

[marthinus007]

@tonysie Nope, it just stops working since the electrodes wear off and go too far appart

[mophead319]

so is this just high voltage electrolosis?

ive done electrolosis with like a battery...but what is this?

[marthinus007]

@mophead319 This is called plasma electrolysis, plasma is the fourth state of matter, after gas. Some call it cold fusion but I believe that the two processes are slightly different but go hand in hand

[badgerman6666]

Does this actully produce more energy then it uses?

[marthinus007]

@badgerman6666 It doe definitely, BUT... a lot of the energy will go missing since it is in the wrong form. It generates HHO gas, heat, light both in the visible as well as invisible spectrums, magnetic radiation and ion flux

[Arnold454545]

Fascinating, I am going to try to feed the engine of a generator with this system.

[marthinus007]

@Arnold454545 Good luck, try feeding some very fine water vapour with you gas...

[Arnold454545]

Is it the fuel gas which you obtain at the top of your box?

[marthinus007]

@Arnold454545 Yes. I gathered some of the gas in test tube and brought it near a flame, it ignited with a loud band so it must be HHO. There is also a lot of steam present, but water separates at 1500 degrees C and HHO burns at around 3000 degrees C, so the steam is also burnt up.

[Arnold454545]

The reaction with only the tap water is grand!

Use you a condenser after the bridge of diodes?

Produce you a lot of hydrogen?

Thank you for your answers.

[marthinus007]

@Arnold454545 Thanx :-)

Well, I use a single diode to half wave rectife the incoming AC, then I have a bifilar wound choke connected and a clamping system to cut any high spikes coming back from the device, if i don't do this the power keeps on tripping. After the chokes I have a homemade non-polar cap connected in parallel with the device. The amount of gas produced is quite a lot. There are 2x 6mm holes drilled in the lid, but they are not enough to let the gas and steam out.

[Arnold454545]

Hello, what electrolyte use you in the video?

Thank you.

[marthinus007]

@Arnold454545 Just plain old tap water. Thats why it draws so such small current

[smartpartzzkidd]

is that an explosion hazard?

[marthinus007]

@smartpartzzkidd Depends, as long as you are in control of the reaction it should be safe, just never put it under pressure

[sifuclen]

how much HHO gas does this produce, ie liters per minute?

[marthinus007]

@sifuclen Have no idea, my container does not seal tightly enough to take an accurate measurement

[XxVizzinixX]

Is this more or less efficient than normal low voltage electrolysis?

Seems like you would be wasting a lot more energy with the spark and all the excess heat. Have you done a comparison of the hydrogen produced with both methods?

[marthinus007]

@XxVizzinixX It should deffinately be more efficient, cant measure how much this process produces though, my container does not seal good enough

[renatekriegler]

SJOE! jong hardloop met die ding en word skatryk! baie trots op jou! xxx

[adrian5b]

what is the temperature reached by that?

[marthinus007]

Not 2 sure yet, my temp meter cuts out after 100 deg C. Trying to find a better meter. Also keep in mind that the presure the water is under will aslo detirmine the max temp it would reach.

[egn83b]

I want one! Is this a microwave transformer?

[marthinus007]

Nope. Normal variac with retifiers and some other components

[jesslessthemess]

I keep killing variacs.  Does anyone know a good way to regulate/limit current?

[marthinus007]

Try putting a choke and a diode in series in your positive rail. It works for me. The chocke prevents the rapid changing of current.

[dankiewfc]

Yep , that is spectacular .