Saudi Author On The Saudi Society relation to Allah

[j40505]

Allah is severe in punishment

he is also the most gracious most merciful

He forgives sin, he loves for his slaves to return to him and " he doesnt wrong his servants"

as he is all just

Its false claim to say God is love, because if God loves everyone then we're all ok, even if your a criminal who disobeys Allah all your life. In fact its a lie against Allah, its a great honour for Allah to love someone, and we should all STRIVE to reach that status, not just sit back with lip service.

[jspeaker1]

Allah IS the tormenter and anyone who believes in Allah will be subjected to torment. God IS love and He sacrificed His son Jesus Christ for you because He loves you! Don't expect to get into His kingdom without making it right with the king first.

[j40505]

Allah is severe in punishment

he is also the most gracious most merciful

He forgives sin, he loves for his slaves to return to him and " he doesnt wrong his servants"

as he is all just

Its false claim to say God is love, because if God loves everyone then we're all ok, even if your a criminal who disobeys Allah all your life. In fact its a lie against Allah, its a great honour for Allah to love someone, and we should all STRIVE to reach that status, not just sit back with lip service.

[jspeaker1]

If it is a false claim to say God is love than His "most gracious and merciful" claim would have to be false too. He loves His slaves that turn to Him from the depths of darkness. That is why Jesus saved the lost and not the righteous. A mass murderer who repents to Jesus before his death will enter Heaven unlike a religious person who believed in God all his life but never did His will....

[sddane]

What this Christian fundamentalist doesn't understand is that he is just as bad as the Islamic fundamentalist. What you both need is a little reality check - science has historically ALWAYS trumped religious stupidity and ideology. The sooner you start seeing each other as humans with the same passions, desires, opinions, and life expectations, and as "Muslim" or "Christian," the better our world will become.

[jspeaker1]

What I understand is all people have the same emotions. We all have the same needs. God made us did He not? I believe in Jesus Christ as much as a Muslim believes in Muhummed. My faith just leads me to know that Jesus Christ is greater than Muhummed. Dont get me wrong but we are all in this human struggle together. We all believe in God! Muslim and Christians and Jews are on a deep spiritual path. Just READ your BIBLE and the quran to understand why we believe Jesus IS God.....

[sddane]

No God did not make us. We evolved. And the Bible (along with the Koran) is riddled with violent passages, sanctioning slavery, forbidding the consumption of pork and shellfish, permitting the execution of disobedient children or breaking the Ten Commandments, and teaching the eternal servitude of women. Read Leviticus, Deuteromony, Exodus, and Corinthians. If these books don't absolutely appall you, I question your morality.

[jspeaker1]

The holy bible is fierce. The quran is fierce. God is love. He loved us so we sugarcoated Him. He was Just, so we brought out His anger and He put out His wrath through the Prophets. The torah is over. Moses DID give God's law but Satan corrupted it to the point where God brought out a new law through His son Jesus Christ. He wrote the law on our hearts through the holy spirit and never again on stone because the "this is god" was getting old and now He said it for Himself, "I AM God".

[sddane]

And didn't Jesus say that the law does not change? The New Testament reasserts the inferior position of women and instructs slaves to remain obedient. And you agree with these positions? Since when did life suck so badly, that you couldn't think for yourself?

[jspeaker1]

God gives you the freewill through Jesus Christ, His Son, to think for yourself completely. God wants us to be ourselves in all ways but to love Him. He doesn't want us to be involved in particular traditions set up by men that Satan only perverted. God is not judging us on our actions and works, but on our faith alone in Jesus Christ. The sins of the flesh do not compare to the sins of the soul. God is love and the king winnows all evil with His eyes....

[sddane]

It seems like God, for some unknown reason, decided to start life and put us in this inescapable situation of choosing between belief in his "son" (ludricous) or death. Why? Why start anything? He knows all yet we have free will (sounds like a contradiction) If Jesus is the only path to salvation, then why were billions of people left out of that message? What wrong did they do? Were you just lucky JS?

[jspeaker1]

Jesus is mentioned in the Quran over a hundred times! Billions of people were NEVER left out of that message. The Quran denouces Jesus purpose but considers Him still a prophet. God is punishing them for blaspheming His holy spirit. Jesus has always been in the spiritual world and everyone knows His message. Muslims believe One God, One way. Well they are right, but one way is not one people it is the one truth. Jesus is this truth and is the king of God's kingdom.

[sddane]

I was thinking more the billions of Chinese and Indians.  And you ignored everything else I wrote. Listen. Anyone who ascribes to a non-scientific factually-devoid ideology is in my mind, a naive hopeless idiot. Good luck believing in fairytales. Leave the real work to those who esteem action, facts, and knowledge. You know..those heathen who cure cancer.

[jspeaker1]

God IS science in the first place. Man never created science, only God did. The Bible (fairy tales or not) still promote a loving God and portray symbolism for His purpose. The real work has been left to the ones who esteem action, facts and knowledge. They say you cant even pick up the scriptures without the Holy Spririt behind you. Belief shows character and prudence. Non belief in the end is just mans laziness coming out....

[sddane]

so who discovered a cure for polio. human science or "God?" Is praying or reading the Bible going to ultimately reveal a cure for cancer? Laziness is accepting what your force-fed without reflection.

[jspeaker1]

God is the cure for everything including disease. We are instruments of God's will so he uses his instruments to invent what He has already invented. Praying to God is different to talking to God and we need to be real to Him because He is so real to us but if He is real to us but we don't acknowledge His voice, He will not be real to us in return. Anything force fed is an object to acception and accepting it is reflection. Listening to His spirit and unhardening the heart.

[sddane]

You keep referencing this invisible man who allegedly does all these magical things without giving your doctor/scientist a shred of credit for all their daily discoveries. But we should trust in "God" (the invistible deity) and nothing really concrete because if we don't, he won't be real to us. This is ridiculous.

[jspeaker1]

God is real. Why cant we?

[sddane]

God is not real. There is no proof that there is some all-powerful omnipotent deity that occasionally intervenes in human society. There is also no proof that he doesn't exist. But again, there's also no proof that pink unicorns rule Pluto. Why ask a pointless question? We are better off finding out answers for ourselves.

[jspeaker1]

Your better off finding answers to God's mysteries and purposes. God makes Himself real to you when you make yourself real to Him. God doesn't believe in atheists just as much as atheists dont believe in God. God is so loving, but that has already been said on stone since the beginning. It is God's love in the heart that truly reveals His purpose to you through the Lord Jesus Christ.

[sddane]

I get it - the Christian fundi is saying his God is love - with strings attached. You need to love and worship him or else you die. How is that different from the Islamic fundi? You both need jobs.

[j40505]

sddane, look, me and js are happy to speak to each other, and discuss so we get to the truth, but you, deny the creator, you cant even put aside your arrogance and accept that someone created this great creation, so theres nothing to discuss with you.

if you want to take ur scientist as ur prophets then its up to you, but realise that science cant disprove the creator.

[sddane]

I assert the obvious. There's no proof of God. There's also no proof that Pluto was once colonized by pink unicorns.

[jspeaker1]

God IS science! God did create the world and us! But He is real as well....Meaning God has feelings just as much as we have feelings. Therefore, He judged the nations of old. The nations thought belief in God is enough but because they believed in what their fathers told them, God distanced Himself. God knew us and when the Arabs barred out the world again, God cursed them tenfold. They were to believe full-heartily but never experience the Holy city.

[sddane]

wow - you have the right to vote. red stater?

[feaddy22]

the first verse of the Quraan says: 1:1 In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. so maybe this guy should have tried reading it instead of being brain-defiled by the media, society, etc.

[stockshunter]

He's expressig his childhood life. Watch the whole clip he eventually declares his love for Allah.

[Mobbin01]

HEs saying thats what he was taught!!Not that what he believes, the people that taught him that are idiots *to you* you dont you let god be the judge of people, and you keep your day job!

[Abd216]

This guy is an idiot.

[Iasmuslimah]

"allah punishes and never forgives"?? Did this guy even read the holy qur'an? Seems he has not......

[00SLY00]

No God but Allah the most Merciful, the most Gracious..

What a shame indeed!! and this is a person who livid in this Country!! Judgmentday is getting sooner and sooner.. thats why people aren't holding to their right faith anymore..they gave up the afterlife.. to live shortly in this unperfect life!

[sddane]

While you worry about a non-existent afterlife, we in the West try to build a better real life.

[00SLY002]

Why bolcking me?!

Hehe "a non-existent afterlife" ask yourself this.. who created you and why? and what a better life in west you are talking about? living like pigs?? eating, sleeping, f***ing , stealing, killing,..... what a better life is that?? WAKE UP >> you've been informed you have no excuse in the aftrelife!

[sddane]

Thinking, creating, inventing, philosophizing, treating others with respect, alleviating suffering, moving up in your jobs, obeying the law, paying taxes, loving, having sex, etc....THERE IS NO AFTERLIFE. LEAVE US ALONE.

[00SLY002]

We Muslims are the one with the greatest inventions, science, and medical breakthroughs..Islam started 1427 years ago.. It gave women freedom while in thye west you were debating if women had souls!! we led the world and made it a better place till you took over with your lies and savagery.. and turned everyone against the other!!

[sddane]

Look around you today. Enough said.

[00SLY002]

Its an Islamic saying:

"Do for your life as if you will live forever, Do for your afterlife as if you will die tomorrow"

We work and worship ... and looking for a reward in the afterlife

[sddane]

That's the problem here. We don't believe in a mythical afterlife and you do. So we do all the work on Earth while you do nothing. We believe in science; you believe in fairytales. And you're so infected by your hideous religion, that you're willing to kill for it.

[00SLY002]

We believe in the afterlife and that means that we must work in earth for it.. Allah told us its a working place were worship the one and only God comes first than exploring earth ..

Ps* can figure out how you can hear or see or move your hand? Muslims and those who Allah grant them his mercy will live forever in a place where sickness, hate, jealousy, greed, and all bad things do not exist.. I believe in this 'cause I believe my God ,, my Creator.. YOU"VE BEEN INFORMED!

[sddane]

Does that mean Muslims have to keep living as if there is no today?

[00SLY002]

Sddane you talk like if Muslims do not work or do anything?! what you are talking about is very strange!

I don't know from where do you brought that we don't work?! And believing in the afterlife doesn't mean not working ..its totally the other way around.. knowing that there is an afterlife make us fear not to cheat, steal, or do any injust in work or life in general!

A good Muslim would work and work better than anyone else because he/she does it with a GodFearing heart!

[sddane]

So do Swedes or the Japanese fear the afterlife to treat their citizens and the rest of humanity with such noble civility? These are nations with among the highest rates of atheism but also the strongest families, best universities, richest economies, and highest quality of life and happniess. why?

[j40505]

ur judging by the wrong ruler my friend.

economic prosperity doesnt mean someone is on the truth. Allah said that he favours some over others in provision or wealth.

look, one day this person is rich and the other day his poor or the next person is rich.

The qs u hav to ask is, what r there values? whats there perception of life, why are we here?

yes u can be rich as a muslim, but is gaining wealth your only purpose? is that why we;re in this life?

jus something to think about.

[mokmaht]

shameless person who doesnt have any shame to tell lies to satisfy his american master,, he is living in USA most of his life and he want the nationality.. why he cannot comment about the god that the american claimed that he cannot forgive without killing someone.