I'm not apologetic. I'm firm upon traditional Islam.
But, I've found that the path of genuine respect is more effective in disarming the hatred Ahmadis have against "Mullahs", and lets them be honest, not emotional.
Most ex-Ahmadis-turned-Muslims have told me that kindness towards them was a reason why they considered it, while most Ahmadis hate Islam because of the hatred they receive.
Even if they never accept Islam, don't hate. It is not the way of our Prophet SAAWS
@farhan00 If you are absolutely certain (100.00000%) that you are on the right path, then why can't you call a spade a spade. OK you can feel pity for some ordinary Qadiyanis but their leadership is the scum of the earth. Please don't shy away from speaking about what you believe is right.
@farhan00 Thank you for your ethical approach towards an open dialogue and not following the fanaticism of people like ranamuhammadarif. I have been asking you the question regarding the translation of nakhtimu. Also, I E-MAILED you some questions as you asked me to be in touch via e-mail. However, your absolute silence to my requests is really confusing for me. Does this mean you don’t have answers?
to expose the falsehood of mirza i think a better a way is to expose the life and death of mirza as described by mirza and his followers from the very early days of this movement.
cz quran and hadith is there and they refuse to accept it. but even none muslims after learning about habits and way of life of mirza would conclude that he was a cursed man and no sane person in their right mind can follow him.
the youth today are educated and need to study his real life to understand
Do you believe that Jesus as prophet will come or not?
Do you believe that Imam Mahdi will come..?
If its true then let me tell you my dear brother that Imam Mahdi is described as Nabiullah, Nabiullah, Nabiullah, Nabiullah 4 times in a single hadith.
Now decide are you telling truth or Hadhrat Mohammad Mustafa Sallallaho alaihi wasallam is telling truth....?
Random question, right? Just like how you randomly change the topic when it is clear that Ahmadiyya has lost. This video had NOTHING to do with 'Esa (AS) dying, but you decided it would be a nice random topic change.
You are following a false prophet, while I hope to follow the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS.
@muzaffarahmadnoori The Qira'at = The variant readings of the Qur'an. The Qur'an that you are reading from is the Hafs Qira'a. Your own Murabbis acknowledge this fact. It is only some ignorant Ahmadis who deny the words of the Prophet SAAWS because it goes against their beliefs.
@TheWegweiser I suggest you do research on the different Qira'ah. Some of the Ahmadi leaders accept the variant Qira'a.
Regardless, only after a few years have I realized that this point, while correct, is too difficult for the average person to understand without a background in the history of the Qur'an.
@farhan00: إِنَّا لِلَّـهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ. Somehow you got the authorization to amend Quran. I have checked all available Quran’s on famous Islamic websites and the word خَاتَمَ is mentioned in all of them.
@xiaahmad: As mentioned by Mr Farhan, there are 10 authentic qira’at of the Holy Quran. Ignoring 9 and following one as it suits his hypothesis is an amendment in Quran. Your hatred campaign against Mirza sb is going too far as it is causing injury to characteristics of Allah, Quranic text & prophethood of Muhammad SAW. For example, Mr Farhan has confirmed in his previous comments that Allah is DEAD & prophecy of Mohammad SAW regarding Mujdadeen has failed Noazobillah.
@masieha There is no contradiction between the 10. All are correct, all are authentic. So, if one says 'Khaatim', that is just as legitimate.
Btw, one of the Ahmadi books acknowledges this and attempts to argue that even though it says 'khaatim', and as Mirza Bashir said, that would mean Finality, it somehow does not. In other words, they'll even go against their own 'Khalifahs' to maintain their beliefs.
@farhan00: I like your political approach :) that all qira’at are correct but you will stick with one. Anyhow, in reality, you have gone against Allah & Mohammad SAW to maintain your beliefs as you have confirmed that Allah has lost the characteristics of a true God mentioned in 7:148 and the prophecy of Mohammad SAW regarding Mujadadeen has failed (noazobillah). May Allah open your heart so that you may recognize the Messiah of the time Ameen.
@masieha I stick to all, not just one. I read from Hafs primarily, but in our masjid the Imams from different parts of the world routinely recite from Duri, Warsh or Qaloon. They are all legitimate. Taking from one does not entail rejecting the others.
Mirza Bashir said IF it said khaatim, it would mean last of the prophets as the Muslims say. It DOES also say khaatim, per the Prophet SAAWS
I now recognize that this argument goes over the heads of most Ahmadis and even most Muslims
@farhan00: If all qira’at are correct and are confusing for Muslims. Let’s follow the general logical role, “Give preference to that qira’at which is more consistent with other Quranic concepts”. For example if Allah still has the characteristics of a True God mentioned in 7:148 – Let’s recite Khaatam. Similarly, if Allah has lost the characteristics of a True God and is disable at this moment – Let’s recite Khaatim
@masieha For 1400 years the Muslims have acknowledged the different Qira'at and no one got confused. We cannot "pick and choose" which qira'a we will accept or reject. That's not logical, that's subjective. Instead, we affirm what the Prophet SAAWS was conveyed from Allah.
If you are new to the topic of the Qira'a, I can respect that. I recognize that its not an easy topic to understand, especially coming from a western background. But, its not a new thing and a reality in Islam.
@farhan00: I respect your research on this topic; however, previously you claimed that it goes over the heads of most of the Muslims and now you are stating that from the past 1400 hundred years no one got confused. Nevertheless, many of the prominent Muslims including Hadrat Ayesha RA, Hadrat IbneArabi, Maulana Romi, Hadrat Shah Walli Ullah etc have interpreted this word in the same way as Ahmadies do. Also, in 36:65 the word khatim is mentioned. How do you recite and translate it?
@masieha My book makes reference to the very statements the Ahmadis cite from Aisha (RA), Ibn 'Arabi, Shah Waliullah, and several others. In short, Ahmadis are taking their statements completely out of context - in some cases, making up stuff. The vast majority of the Ahmadis never double-check what their "murabbis" tell them.
The Qira'a difference isn't something the average Muslim of today has in depth knowledge of. I recognize that. But historically Muslims were more aware of such things.
@masieha For information on that ayah, go to altafsir (dot) com, then click on علم القراءات on the right side. Go to the ayah in question and see how the different Qira'at are in regards to it.
@farhan00 : Thanks, the website is really awesome. Anyhow, could you please explain the meaning of 36:65 yourself so that I may better understand your point of view
@xiaahmad: Thanks for your comments. You have all the right to think whatever you want. I repeat my question which I asked Mr Farhan and still waiting for his response: In 36:65 the word khatim is mentioned. How do you recite and translate it? You seem to be a knowledgeable person. I would appreciate if you could give me your thoughts on my question.
So true brother thank you for posting, u are highly educated and a very excellent explanation...Please the recitation from the beginning is soo nice please tell me where I can get it from please....
Important !!! This boy is going to change the Quran. I promise you if you check the quran then the quoted verse has been changed by this boy. First he is reciting wrong. 2nd see the specific word on which he is emphasizing. That word he has changed. So if you see the actual meanings of that word then its meanings are best/top/ring and are in the favour of Mirza Ghulam ahmad of Qadian. Why ? What have you done? and Why are you changing the Quran? May Allah protect our Quran. Ameen
@mahmood128 I challenge you to ask you to question your Murabbis about the topic of the Qira'at. Your own Murabbis accept it! But, they do not tell their followers, because they want them to remain Ahmadis, not Muslims.
@farhan00 I recommend you check the writings of Ahmadi Maulvi Adam Hani Walker. He accepted the Qira'at, but tried to provide a work-around explanation.
You have not understood the claim of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) to zilli / buruzi Prophethood. His claim was not that he himself was a Prophet in any sense comparable to that of previous Prophets. His status was only attained as a result of the Holy Prophet's (saw) final and supreme spiritual status. Therefore, if you truly understand his claim you will know that proving that khatam means last in no way changes or reduces the claim of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Would be happy to discuss.
@haqeeqatulwahi Zill/Buruz are unknown terms in the Muslim world. The closest thing is Fana' fi al-Rasul (obliteration in the prophet). But, this was never understood that you literally become him or literally become a prophet. Its a distortion of a Sufi concept.
If anyone would have 'become' the Prophet SAAWS, it would have been Abu Bakr, whose daughter married the Prophet SAAWS, looked like him, spent his time with him and even died at the same age. But no, literal Zill/Buruz is madeup.
@farhan00 We want to Islam of our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh. Many many prophecies (predictions) had fulfilled on/ for the truth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. Like the eclipse of Sun and Moon in which no human hand can involve. Further you are not a person to decide that who is Muslim and who is not. We believe all of the prophets including imam Mahdi. So we dam care of people who say us non muslim or so. Our faith is with our God. BYE with sorry !
Allah wants to guide us.If there would have been any prophet after Mohammad(SAW) it would have mentioned quite clearly.Behold another one or many will come.Qadianis try to twist the ayats.But everyone can see that they r not on the right path.
Qadiyanis is Kuffer in the guise of Islam, Mirza Ghulam was a fale messiah, he has been proven wrong on every twist and turn, But yet ignorant people still follow his Cult!
It is true that that woman (Mohammadi) has not been married to me But she will certainly be married to me as has been stated in the prophecy. .The woman in still alive. She will inevitably come to my wedlock. I expect this to happen, rather, I have full faith in this. These are divinely ordained matters and are bound to occur. (MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD QADIYANI
Al-Hakam Qadian, August 10, 1901)
But Mohammadi begum never ever got married to mirza ghulam ahmad qadiani
Islam is so great millions of morons from failure Muslim countries come to the west begging for bread. Then we have dumbass westerners like this guy who convert.
Jazaka Allah khair brother.May Allah reward you for your great work,very good video. I pray to Allah that more qadianis revert to Islam and abandon their deceitful ways.
Ghulam Qadiyani said: "I have never claimed that I am Messiah Ibne Maryam and he who accuses me of such a thing, he is absolutely a liar and a fabricator." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 192)
BUT in another of his books :
"I claim that I am the Promised Messiah, about whom all the Holy Books of God have foretold that he will appear in the last days." (Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.295)
READ THE SOURCES YOURSELVES PEOPLE. HOW CAN HE BE A PROPHET? HE ISN'T
Ask yourself this question... according to the hadith sunnah that imam mahdi come from the prophet lineage and that he carry the ark of convenant that prophet moses,arron, then passes down to prophet david and solomon and loss in time.. in time of imam mahdi he shall carry this ark as a sign of god and he will appear in dasmucus in syria not miza gulam at bangladesh. he's a false messiah you all should indulge in the sunnah of the holy prophet rather than read all his nonsense
Farhan00: I challenge you to present a single example from Arabic Literature where the word "Khaatam" when attributed to humans means "THE LAST". There were too many LAST of the kings belonging to various families like "Mughal Family" etc. Was ever the Word "Khaatam" used for Bahadur Shah Zafar - The Last of the Mughal Kings????? If not then why??????
Similarly, you can never present a single example from Arabic literature where the Word "Khaatam" when used for human, is merely used for "LAST"
dawah2: Malik Ghulam Farid's dictionary, the official Ahmadi dictionary of the Qur'an, claims to be based off of Mufridaat al-Qur'an, Taj al-'Uroos, Lisaan al-'Arab, Lane's Lexicon, etc.
I looked up these dictionaries and all of them say it means "Last", and some even give the example of Khaatam an-Nabieen.
If you want to check for yourself, do a google search for Lane's Lexicon, Volume II, Page 339
or lexicons,sakhr,com and look it up in the classical lexicons listed there
The word ختم has always meant 'Seal' in the sense of "nothing more".
I challenge you to show me where in the classical dictionaries referenced by Malik Ghulam Farid the meaning of ختم ever means "Seal" in the sense of "Embellishment". If you cannot, kindly acknowledge that this is a made-up definition of the word.
I've looked them up myself. "Seal" is used to mean "Nothing more", "Barrier", "Finality", etc
Farhan00: I repeat my challenge that you to present a single example from Arabic Literature where the word "Khaatam" WHEN ATTRIBUTED TO HUMAN means "THE LAST". There were too many LAST of the kings belonging to various families like "Mughals" etc. Was ever the Word "Khaatam" used for Bahadur Shah Zafar - The Last of the Mughal Kings? If not then why???
Similarly, you can never present a single example from Arabic literature where the Word "Khaatam" when used for human, is merely used for "LAST"
The British government is also supporting this movement and making it easy for their followers to get positions in world vernments, corporate administration and consulates.Some of them are also high-ranking officers in the secret services.
Why the unbelievers support them because they're against Islamic teachings. They Quran says "The unbelievers will not help you don't take them friends." So it means that Qadianism is anti Islamic Teachings . They are Hypocrites.
The Majlis al-Ummah in Pakistan (the central parliament) debated with the Qadiani leader Mirza Naasir Ahmad, and he was refuted by Shaykh Mufti Mahmood (may Allaah have mercy on him). The debate went on for nearly thirty hours but Naasir Ahmad was unable to give answers and the Kufr of this group was exposed, so the Majlis issued a statement that the Qadianis should be regarded as a non-Muslim minority.
Qadianiyyah is a movement that started in 1900 CE as a plot by the British colonialists in the Indian subcontinent, with the aim of diverting Muslims away from their religion and from the obligation of jihaad in particular, so that they would not oppose colonialism in the name of Islam.
brother farhan00, which sect of Islam are you in? have you seen other sect in side you tube (wahabi, deobandi, chakrealvi, shia, ismaili and etc) each one of them have their own opinion regarding Islam. And each one of the sect publish their own fatwa that wahabi is kafir, shia is kafir? please give comment on this matter. Thank you.
All minor groups combined (including Ahmadiyyah) make up less than 15% of the global Muslim community.
The beliefs within Ahl as-Sunnah Islam are 95% the same. The other differences lay in deep issues of 'Aqeedah which the average person does not even involve himself with.
To say Deobandi, Wahabi, etc are separate sects is a gross mis-characterization. One will only realize the difference between them after asking *probing* questions. Otherwise, same thing.
Dear brother Farhan,sincerely many thanks for you, including Ahmadiyyah inside "Global Muslim community". Hopefully many same of "Brother Farhan00" simply did not produce Kafir or Murtad as a "flying darts" to other person or community. and thanks for you clarification and explanation. And I personally appologise for any mistake or etc. Again thanks.
No, because if you look at the Muslims, yes disagree on certain issues, but agree on the FUNDAMENTALS of the religion. One of the fundamentals of which there is no compromise is that Muhammad Sal Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam is the last Prophet.
Ahmadiyya believes in another Prophet. This is no minor issue of disagreement. This is a MAJOR deviation from Islam.
Great video brother, Jazakallah khair for the research, the evidence, the clear presentation and the upload. May Allah reward you, and guide the ahmediyyah back to Orthodox Islam.
mashallah rehan god bless you I am agree with you.very nice explaination.we muslim proud of you.thanks for your time u gave, and came in your mind to explain these things.
Mirza created a NEW religion taking coverage of few verses of Noble Quran, twisted in his favor and a couple of Hadiths.
He deleted Jihad abd Zakat to please British Ruler of the time and for his family's welfare.
MIRZA claims himself various personalities (1) God (2) Rebirth of Mohammed (PBUH) (3) Hazrat Isa AS (4) Imam Mahdi (5) Lord Krishna (Hindue God) (6) New Reformer
He has tried to portray himself a super natural person to nullify all holy and pious persons sent by Allah time to time.
The level of your knowledge is stunning (in a dissapointing manner). You don't even know that Durr-e-Manthur is a sunni work, written by a sunni scholar. What more are you going to surprise me with tomorrow? Get your facts straight.
By the way - you didn't answer mine either. But don't worry, you shall get your response in my video which shall be posted in response to latest response video.
His (ra) tafsir,hahaha. A few days ago you disagreed with him as a legitimate scholar and now you advance his tafsir? And you were the one who said Ahmadis use any scholar they can get their hands on. I have his tafsir here on my bookshelf in Arabic and he does not oppose the Ahmadi contention. His words are quite neutral.
"And the Finality of the Prophethood was granted to him not only because he appeared last of all, in period of time, but also because all the excellences of prophethood came to an end with him." [Lecture Islam, Sialkot (2nd November 1904), p.6]
Please provide any reference from the books of mirza Ghulam ahmed that the word KHATAm was not used a Final/last prophet it was used for BEST but not last? Just a single proof will be appriciated.
"And surely our Messenger is Khatam an-Nabiyyin and with him is cut off the chain of messengers, so no one has the right to claim substantial prophethood (mustaqil nubuwwat) after our Messenger, the Chosen one, and nothing remains after him except abundance of communication." [Haqiqat al-Wahy, Supplement, p. 64.] Why dont u belive in ur prophet?.
Just re-read your last response, you don't make any sense whatsoever. The narration posted by Sarmad is supported by Suyuti - durr-e-manthur is his work, therefore its a sunni work (its not rocket science). You agree to his tafsir, but you don't agree to the authenticity of his other narrations?!
MR farhan00, simply Quran has no contradictions in it what so ever. ***accept that first***hope to agree*** now what about verse 69, CH 4, """Whoso obeyeth Allah and the messenger, they are with those unto whom Allah hath shown favour, of the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they! (69)""""
Hadhrat Abdrur Rahman narrates that he used to teach Hadhrat Hasan and Hussein (as). Once Hadhrat Ali (ra), passed nearby him whilst he was teaching them. He said to him, 'Teach them Khataman Nabiyyeen with the vowal a (fat'ha) on ta.
[Durr-e-Manthur, Vol.5, Pg.386]
Can Farhaan00 present a single quote from the Prophet (saw) or his 4 Khulaf Rashideens which says that reading "Khatim" in 33:40 is also correct? If not then how could he claim that both Qira'ats of 33:40 are of same authenticity?
sarmadahmad, non Ahmadi Muslims would accept to create contradictions in the Holly Quran but ppl like farhan00 would not accept the truth that prophets can come...they are helpless...we can just pray for these poor people...MAy Allah Guide All NON AHMADI MUSLIMS TO THE RIGHT PATH...
Ali taught them how to pronounce, since there are 8 different styles, Khatam and KhatiM leads to the same conclusion. Ali(r.a) was not the narrator of Quran, the hadith on this subject is mentioned below:
Ibn Abbas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Gabriel taught me to recite in one style. I replied to him and kept asking him to give more (styles), till he reached seven modes (of recitation). Ibn Shihab said: It has reached me that these seven styles are essentially one, not differing about what is permitted and what is forbidden. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.390).
Why would Allah send a prophet of Israel to the ummah of Muhammad (saw)? If "Khatam" is also valid (i.e. seal) according to you, why send a prophet who does NOT bear the seal of Muhammad (saw)?
I want to close by saying I appreciate the dignity and polite manner with which you speak.
Muslim Ummah would have so bad and crypt that there would no one in the Whole Muslims who could become prophet then they will have to barrow a prophet of another religion who will put the muslim ummah to the right path... What a non sense... LA HO LA WA QUA TA... INA LILLAH... NON AHMADI MUSLIMS WILL HAVE TO GET JESUS OF ISRAEL WHO WILL THEN GUIDE THE MUSLIMS... MAKES ME LAUGH...
Coralsnakes: Hazrat Isa was a Muslim in present terminology, moreover he will return back as a ummati of Muhammed(PBHU. You believing in Ghulam Ahmed is nothing but kufr.
Hazrat Isa (as) may have been a Muslim by the definition of righteousness of that time, but after the shining example of the Holy Prophet (saw), what is he? He bears neither the seal of Muhammad (saw), nor is he anything but a prophet of the Israelites.
You preface your argument by saying there are 10 qira'ah and none is more authentic/correct than the other, but yet your whole argument is based on your preference for the qira'ah that translates to "end". Why?
Also, your argument about Isa (as) being the last prophet on earth but not the end is entirely misguided. It does not take a religious scholar to tell you it sounds like a loophole, but let's examine this.
Farhan, on one hand you are saying that no prophets can come after Holy Prophet (saw), yet you believe that Jesus (as) will descend. If your argument is that Jesus (as) was already a prophet and his coming back will not cause any difference to the Khatam e Nabuwwah, then please tell me who will be the last prophet on earth?
Sahih Bukhari states a Hadith in which Ibn e Abbas (ra) told someone to recite the word Khatam with a fath (zabar) on the letter "ta". What was in his mind when he said that?
They claim to be champions of islam, what a joke, their so called mosques are desserted at salah time, at fajr u would be lucky if the place opened. Their leader is not a scholar but an ignorant unread farmer.
The few of them that are sincere see thru the rubbish and become muslims, the rest, they are competing to enter the fire, and may Allah protect us. ameen.
They do not discuss or debate with any logic or evidence, because they are not really interested in iman. I thought when i was young it was because they had not seen the hadiths, but even when I showed them they dont care. they spilt hairs like the munafiqeen of madina.
these people behave exactly like munafiqs of medina, their only arguement is against Ulema and the Muslims. No jew or christian has as much hatred for muslims as these people. Islam and Muslims are labels they use to gain credibilty, it is infact a money making scheme.
Brother farhan, I am laughing at the fact that u find ahmadis elusive. I have discussed with these people for years. Most of them have their hearts sealed. They dont give a hoot about daleel, in the Quran or hadith. Mirza the murtad stated he would throw out any hadith that rejected him.
Why do you believe in some random Asian dude? No offense but All prophets have either been Jew or Arab(Ishmael and Muhammed pbut) Muhammed pbuh was a PURE Arab an Adnanian Arabia directly from Abraham pbuh. This guy is a Random Half Asian quater Persia dude..
why are you going against Islam by saying only Arab's or Jews can be prophets. Do you not know that Muhammad(saw) said that there are 124,000 prophets sent by Allah. Also the Qu'ran says that there is not a nation to which a messanger was not sent. So do you still hold to the veiw that prophets can only be Arab or Jews????????????????
I try to avoid inter-Muslim disputes. I love and respect all Muslims, regardless of their schools of thought, especially at this difficult time for Islam and the Muslims.
mash'allah brother im only 14 years of age and im disgust in people thinking that there is a prophet after the last rasool'allah (saw)
you look like an awesome guy..and a true muslim u can see this buy the noor on your face..keep it up with these videos and can you put some videos up of sal'aah because i have many confused people and it would most probably help the converts...thanks w/salaam
I belive in Imam malik, imam shulatat rector of jamat al azhar university cairo, r u deaf, but where it is written that and new prophet will come in quran, do u know arabic?
I don't know much about Ahmadi (Mazhab) but I would like to know this important thing. There are 25 prophets of Islam (from Adam AS to Muhammad SAW). And there are 4 Rasuls (Messenger of Allah: Musa AS, Dawud AS, Isa AS and Muhammad SAW). Any Ahmadi's out there DISAGREE with this? That is all I need to know. The rest is just another interpretation. Peace be upon you all.
well im sorry borther but i think to need 2 re-check the Qu'ran & Hadith. The qu'ran says that prophets were wsent to every people & in an authenik hadith the prophet (saw) sed that there 124,000 prophets. 25 have just been named in the qu'ran
quran at each and evey place says that no new peophet will emerge, AKMAL, KAMIL, are the wordings used in quran, no new good news is inside quran for new prophet like in injeel that "of people a prophet will come from you and he will speak with your language". its you pethetic people trying to get the meaning wrong. show me just one verse.
O CHILDREN OF ADAM! IF MESSENGERS COME TO YOU FROM AMONG YOURSELVES, REHEARSING MY SIGNS UNTO YOU, FEAR GOD AND DO GOOD DEEDS AS THEN, NO FEAR OR GRIEF SHALL TOUCH YOU (Al Quran, 7:36)
HE IT IS WHO HAS RAISED AMONG THE UNLETTERED A MESSENGER FROM AMONG THEMSELVES WHO RECITES UNTO THEM HIS SIGNS, AND PURIFIES THEM, AND TEACHES THEM THE BOOK AND WISDOM, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD BEEN, BEFORE, IN MANIFEST MISGUIDANCE. AND AMONG OTHERS FROM AMONG THEM WHO HAVE NOT YET JOINED THEM. HE IS THE MIGHTY, THE WISE (The Holy Quran, 62:3-4)
becuase you people blive in pick and choose method which is abided by quran itsself, u pick the surrah which descrbies the meaning to support u and leave the rest like ur khalifas do. even in pick and choose you make huge mistakes like farhan has shown inshallah i ll show you each and everything hold on
do not speak without knowledge brother the qu'ran says of people lyk you wu beleuev no messanger will ever be raised up agin And Joseph did come to you before with clear proofs, but you ceased not to be in doubt concerning that with which he came to you till, when he died, you said: 'Allah will never raise up a Messenger after him.' Thus does Allah adjudge as lost those who transgress, (and) are doubters. (Al Quran: 40:35
u need lot of things to tell you and i think this comments window wont allow me to do so, your khalifas have brainwahsed you like lime soda, i will inshallah answer your each and every question in the message, we will see who got the knowledge and dont, i all also discuss the curcumstances in which the surrah was revealed inshallah hold on.
Ahmadis, do you reject the Ayah which I showed you in this video? If no, and the Prophet Muhammad is the LAST of the Prophets, how does MGA fit into the picture?
Because we do. We have right to disagree with your interpretation as much as you have a right to disagree with ours and Allah will judge which is right.
"He wishes to try you by that which He has given you. Vie then with one another in doing good works. To Allah shall you all return; then He will inform you of that wherein you differed"
the word is not missinterpreted do not play with quran i know your language is not arabic neither your prophet was arabic but quran was made for pure arabs 1400 years ago as their native language was like quran, no body had any objection with this ayat untill 1300 many kazib claimed to be the prophet by chaning the meaning of ayata.
so thata why rasool allah said that there ll 30 dajjal in my claiming to be the prophet so how come a person claim to be prophet if quran doenst support him in his theory? so in every kazibs theory quran supports him that he is the new prophet but rasool allah finished the story with this hadith,
ye well did u not read the hadoith in which the prophet s.a.w sed dat Isa (a) will be a prophet ????? The 30 Dajjals would be ppl claiming to bring a new religion etc. How can u say the final messge of Allah wud not be sent with a Messiah 2 revive the religion???? u fink we wud b in such bad luck to revceive 30 dajjals but not 1 Truthful???????
ok for instance if anyone do not belive about the comming isa back? what will u say then? and if he says that all the people who claim to be the prophet of God after rasool allah are liars. what do you say then?
End of the peophets not only law, quran would have mentioned if he was only the law bearing prophet, quran didnt mentioned it that he was the end of law bearing its what the mentality of qadianis/bhais who missinterpret those ayat. if someone do not belive in 2nd comming of isa how would u treat him?
OK IF THERE QURAN DOES NOT MEntion that he is the last law bearinf peophet does that mean anybody will be able to add to Islam???????????? well how can you not believe in the second coming (im not sayin literally how muslim nowadays & jews i nterpretated as in the old prophet will literally come down)
no i just asked the word show me LAW BEARING in quran? where does it written in whole quran just give me a hint.Khatam means best for instance not law bearing and you are fail to provide anything untill now? r u there?
where is law, do u know the arabic of law? or ur forefather know? even khatam doesnt mean law bearing, could u please give me the arabic of law bearing?
Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not heard"; and Ra'ina; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. Surah 4.46
Ahmadis, do you reject the Ayah which I showed you in this video? If no, and the Prophet Muhammad is the LAST of the Prophets, how does MGA fit into the picture?
of corurse we elieve in this Ayah, Muhammed is the best prophet & to prove it he brought the final message & he was the last aw breaing prophet (no contradiction there).
Qadianiyyah is a movement that started in 1900 CE as a plot by the British colonialists in the Indian subcontinent, with the aim of diverting Muslims away from their religion and from the obligation of jihaad in particular, so that they would not oppose colonialism in the name of Islam.
the Christians worship Isa as God & the Quran bears witness to this aswell but then the Qu'ran also states:
"And those on whom they call beside Allah create not anything, but they are themselves created. They are DEAD NOT LIVING and they know not when they will be raised." (16:21-22)
I answered you before. Read it in context. Issa AS is not mentioned by name. Regarding Issa AS I showed u the verse which states clearly that Allah saved him from the cross and raised him up to Himself.
ok we all know why mirza could not be a prophet/mahdi/nabi etc.
but you really do not need quran or hadith to prove it.
instead we need to look at the person and life of Mirza himself, what were his habits preferences way of life and the way he died.
all this is narrated by early ahmadis themself especially in the early books about him by ahmadis.
The proof of Allahs curse on him is in his life. This i belive is a better way to show the falsehood of this cursed man.
mozdec 7 months ago
No need to be apologetic or diplomatic about the bastard Qadianis.
ranamuhammadatif 1 year ago
@ranamuhammadatif salaamz,
I'm not apologetic. I'm firm upon traditional Islam.
But, I've found that the path of genuine respect is more effective in disarming the hatred Ahmadis have against "Mullahs", and lets them be honest, not emotional.
Most ex-Ahmadis-turned-Muslims have told me that kindness towards them was a reason why they considered it, while most Ahmadis hate Islam because of the hatred they receive.
Even if they never accept Islam, don't hate. It is not the way of our Prophet SAAWS
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00 If you are absolutely certain (100.00000%) that you are on the right path, then why can't you call a spade a spade. OK you can feel pity for some ordinary Qadiyanis but their leadership is the scum of the earth. Please don't shy away from speaking about what you believe is right.
ranamuhammadatif 1 year ago
@ranamuhammadatif What? Aren't we on the same team here?
I agree, their leadership is quite evil, I don't disagree. But our objective is Da'wah, not just to sit around and yell at people.
I have found that Da'wah with kindness towards them is highly effective.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00 Thank you for your ethical approach towards an open dialogue and not following the fanaticism of people like ranamuhammadarif. I have been asking you the question regarding the translation of nakhtimu. Also, I E-MAILED you some questions as you asked me to be in touch via e-mail. However, your absolute silence to my requests is really confusing for me. Does this mean you don’t have answers?
masieha 1 year ago 5
Don't follow the Jahil Murabbis.
farhan00 1 year ago
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@farhan00 What's the translation of Nakhtimu?
masieha 1 year ago
@farhan00
to expose the falsehood of mirza i think a better a way is to expose the life and death of mirza as described by mirza and his followers from the very early days of this movement.
cz quran and hadith is there and they refuse to accept it. but even none muslims after learning about habits and way of life of mirza would conclude that he was a cursed man and no sane person in their right mind can follow him.
the youth today are educated and need to study his real life to understand
mozdec 7 months ago
according to a hadith then believe me you have your answer that is it Khatam or Khatim
If you believe that Hadrat Imam Mahdi is supposed to appear then its a very important message for you that IMAM MAHDI HAS COME.....
Thats all.....
muzaffarahmadnoori 1 year ago 2
@muzaffarahmadnoori Either you have not been reading my comments or you do not know what the variant Qira'at are. Which one is it?
Its not Khaatam OR Khaatim, its both.
Your own Murabbis accept the different Qira'at, but you reject it?
Again, Khaatim and Khaatam are both correct. If you disbelieve in that, you disbelieve in the Qur'an.
farhan00 1 year ago
The day is clear to the world and we, Ahmadis, believe in Hadhrat Mohammad Mustafa Sallallaho alaihi wasallam...
We love him that is why we are ready to die for this name too....
I think this is the end of our discussion.
My motto is not to hurt you but I asked my last question, thou it was not a random question, because it is concerned with the discussion.
Let me tell you if you believe that Prophet Jesus a.s.was the prophet and Mahdi Alaihissalam will also be a prophet according,,(contd.)
muzaffarahmadnoori 1 year ago
Do you believe that Jesus as prophet will come or not?
Do you believe that Imam Mahdi will come..?
If its true then let me tell you my dear brother that Imam Mahdi is described as Nabiullah, Nabiullah, Nabiullah, Nabiullah 4 times in a single hadith.
Now decide are you telling truth or Hadhrat Mohammad Mustafa Sallallaho alaihi wasallam is telling truth....?
You decide!
muzaffarahmadnoori 1 year ago
@muzaffarahmadnoori Do you believe that Khidr was a prophet or not?
Random question, right? Just like how you randomly change the topic when it is clear that Ahmadiyya has lost. This video had NOTHING to do with 'Esa (AS) dying, but you decided it would be a nice random topic change.
You are following a false prophet, while I hope to follow the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS.
Muhammad or Mirza. You decide!
farhan00 1 year ago
@muzaffarahmadnoori
No he is not Mahdi is Imam not Prophet.
and ESA(AS) is already a Prophet
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad
Excellent man....
You are the real example of Summum Bukmum umyun fahum laa yarjeoon.....
I beleive you believe in this Qirat too.....
muzaffarahmadnoori 1 year ago
@muzaffarahmadnoori So, when someone defeats Ahmadiyya, they are summum Bukmum Umyun? haha
Islam is better than Ahmadiyya :-)
farhan00 1 year ago
@muzaffarahmadnoori
again no proper answering.
thing is u assume stuff which u cant back it up and then try to change the topic :)
xiaahmad 1 year ago
I am amazed that you translate the words from Qirats not the actual Quran.
Do you really believe in the finality (Khatam) of this book or not..
No one can change this Holy book. So, beware! Allah is watching you. Come with the real meanings.
muzaffarahmadnoori 1 year ago
@muzaffarahmadnoori The Qira'at = The variant readings of the Qur'an. The Qur'an that you are reading from is the Hafs Qira'a. Your own Murabbis acknowledge this fact. It is only some ignorant Ahmadis who deny the words of the Prophet SAAWS because it goes against their beliefs.
farhan00 1 year ago
Why have you changend the koran? You have no arguments my friend..!
KhatAm and not Khatim!!!!!
TheWegweiser 1 year ago
@TheWegweiser I suggest you do research on the different Qira'ah. Some of the Ahmadi leaders accept the variant Qira'a.
Regardless, only after a few years have I realized that this point, while correct, is too difficult for the average person to understand without a background in the history of the Qur'an.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00: إِنَّا لِلَّـهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ. Somehow you got the authorization to amend Quran. I have checked all available Quran’s on famous Islamic websites and the word خَاتَمَ is mentioned in all of them.
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha
firstly MGA himself translated it as "Nabiyoon ka Khatam karney wala"
secondly please check the Warsh Qirat (its audio recitation is also available on my channel) by Qari Abdul Basit as Samad
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@masieha
you can check quranflash(dot)com
there go to english > downloads > warsh quran
also I have connected its recitation as respond to this video
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad: As mentioned by Mr Farhan, there are 10 authentic qira’at of the Holy Quran. Ignoring 9 and following one as it suits his hypothesis is an amendment in Quran. Your hatred campaign against Mirza sb is going too far as it is causing injury to characteristics of Allah, Quranic text & prophethood of Muhammad SAW. For example, Mr Farhan has confirmed in his previous comments that Allah is DEAD & prophecy of Mohammad SAW regarding Mujdadeen has failed Noazobillah.
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha There is no contradiction between the 10. All are correct, all are authentic. So, if one says 'Khaatim', that is just as legitimate.
Btw, one of the Ahmadi books acknowledges this and attempts to argue that even though it says 'khaatim', and as Mirza Bashir said, that would mean Finality, it somehow does not. In other words, they'll even go against their own 'Khalifahs' to maintain their beliefs.
May Allah guide the Ahmadis to Islam!
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00: I like your political approach :) that all qira’at are correct but you will stick with one. Anyhow, in reality, you have gone against Allah & Mohammad SAW to maintain your beliefs as you have confirmed that Allah has lost the characteristics of a true God mentioned in 7:148 and the prophecy of Mohammad SAW regarding Mujadadeen has failed (noazobillah). May Allah open your heart so that you may recognize the Messiah of the time Ameen.
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha I stick to all, not just one. I read from Hafs primarily, but in our masjid the Imams from different parts of the world routinely recite from Duri, Warsh or Qaloon. They are all legitimate. Taking from one does not entail rejecting the others.
Mirza Bashir said IF it said khaatim, it would mean last of the prophets as the Muslims say. It DOES also say khaatim, per the Prophet SAAWS
I now recognize that this argument goes over the heads of most Ahmadis and even most Muslims
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00: If all qira’at are correct and are confusing for Muslims. Let’s follow the general logical role, “Give preference to that qira’at which is more consistent with other Quranic concepts”. For example if Allah still has the characteristics of a True God mentioned in 7:148 – Let’s recite Khaatam. Similarly, if Allah has lost the characteristics of a True God and is disable at this moment – Let’s recite Khaatim
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha For 1400 years the Muslims have acknowledged the different Qira'at and no one got confused. We cannot "pick and choose" which qira'a we will accept or reject. That's not logical, that's subjective. Instead, we affirm what the Prophet SAAWS was conveyed from Allah.
If you are new to the topic of the Qira'a, I can respect that. I recognize that its not an easy topic to understand, especially coming from a western background. But, its not a new thing and a reality in Islam.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00: I respect your research on this topic; however, previously you claimed that it goes over the heads of most of the Muslims and now you are stating that from the past 1400 hundred years no one got confused. Nevertheless, many of the prominent Muslims including Hadrat Ayesha RA, Hadrat IbneArabi, Maulana Romi, Hadrat Shah Walli Ullah etc have interpreted this word in the same way as Ahmadies do. Also, in 36:65 the word khatim is mentioned. How do you recite and translate it?
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha My book makes reference to the very statements the Ahmadis cite from Aisha (RA), Ibn 'Arabi, Shah Waliullah, and several others. In short, Ahmadis are taking their statements completely out of context - in some cases, making up stuff. The vast majority of the Ahmadis never double-check what their "murabbis" tell them.
The Qira'a difference isn't something the average Muslim of today has in depth knowledge of. I recognize that. But historically Muslims were more aware of such things.
farhan00 1 year ago
@masieha For information on that ayah, go to altafsir (dot) com, then click on علم القراءات on the right side. Go to the ayah in question and see how the different Qira'at are in regards to it.
Btw, that website is awesome.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00 : Thanks, the website is really awesome. Anyhow, could you please explain the meaning of 36:65 yourself so that I may better understand your point of view
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha
I think ur statement is based upon lack of knowledge about the subject
I have provided the reference u can check
even MGA referred to Qirat thing in one of his argument then u gona accept this Qiraat subject if I provide u proof?
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad: Thanks for your comments. You have all the right to think whatever you want. I repeat my question which I asked Mr Farhan and still waiting for his response: In 36:65 the word khatim is mentioned. How do you recite and translate it? You seem to be a knowledgeable person. I would appreciate if you could give me your thoughts on my question.
masieha 1 year ago
@masieha Nakhtimu
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00 What's the translation of nakhtimu? I am also waiting for your e mail response for the last week or so. Please reply.
masieha 1 year ago
@farhan00 What's the translation of Nakhtimu?
masieha 1 year ago
what the hell do u think u r doing online
why dont u haf a face to face sitting with our murabbis
and then post those cideos
cz u know we r ryt nd u wrong
may allah guide u
shazbi1 1 year ago
If God has said falsehood will vanish, it will vanish.
MrESC831 1 year ago
here you go buddy. You long awaited answer ! youtube / ...watch?v=dP81V29knb8
Revpins2000 1 year ago
So true brother thank you for posting, u are highly educated and a very excellent explanation...Please the recitation from the beginning is soo nice please tell me where I can get it from please....
AA4EVA19 1 year ago
what you beleive is not necessarily right or true.
gittu79 1 year ago
farhan i really appreciate & encourage your brave sincere & religious efforts may ALLAH bless your efforts please keep it up!jazakallah!
sallu05 2 years ago
Important !!! This boy is going to change the Quran. I promise you if you check the quran then the quoted verse has been changed by this boy. First he is reciting wrong. 2nd see the specific word on which he is emphasizing. That word he has changed. So if you see the actual meanings of that word then its meanings are best/top/ring and are in the favour of Mirza Ghulam ahmad of Qadian. Why ? What have you done? and Why are you changing the Quran? May Allah protect our Quran. Ameen
mahmood128 2 years ago
@mahmood128 I challenge you to ask you to question your Murabbis about the topic of the Qira'at. Your own Murabbis accept it! But, they do not tell their followers, because they want them to remain Ahmadis, not Muslims.
farhan00 2 years ago
@farhan00 I recommend you check the writings of Ahmadi Maulvi Adam Hani Walker. He accepted the Qira'at, but tried to provide a work-around explanation.
farhan00 2 years ago
You have not understood the claim of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) to zilli / buruzi Prophethood. His claim was not that he himself was a Prophet in any sense comparable to that of previous Prophets. His status was only attained as a result of the Holy Prophet's (saw) final and supreme spiritual status. Therefore, if you truly understand his claim you will know that proving that khatam means last in no way changes or reduces the claim of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Would be happy to discuss.
haqeeqatulwahi 1 year ago
@haqeeqatulwahi Zill/Buruz are unknown terms in the Muslim world. The closest thing is Fana' fi al-Rasul (obliteration in the prophet). But, this was never understood that you literally become him or literally become a prophet. Its a distortion of a Sufi concept.
If anyone would have 'become' the Prophet SAAWS, it would have been Abu Bakr, whose daughter married the Prophet SAAWS, looked like him, spent his time with him and even died at the same age. But no, literal Zill/Buruz is madeup.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00 We want to Islam of our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh. Many many prophecies (predictions) had fulfilled on/ for the truth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. Like the eclipse of Sun and Moon in which no human hand can involve. Further you are not a person to decide that who is Muslim and who is not. We believe all of the prophets including imam Mahdi. So we dam care of people who say us non muslim or so. Our faith is with our God. BYE with sorry !
mahmood128 2 years ago
shame & lanat on u!
sallu05 2 years ago
jazakallah kher
meSGdude 2 years ago
Allah wants to guide us.If there would have been any prophet after Mohammad(SAW) it would have mentioned quite clearly.Behold another one or many will come.Qadianis try to twist the ayats.But everyone can see that they r not on the right path.
shaiqer 2 years ago
I really miss having that beard :-(
farhan00 2 years ago
mashallah good explanation
monumonu2007 2 years ago
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Qadiyanis is Kuffer in the guise of Islam, Mirza Ghulam was a fale messiah, he has been proven wrong on every twist and turn, But yet ignorant people still follow his Cult!
ShaitanKhan 2 years ago
It is true that that woman (Mohammadi) has not been married to me But she will certainly be married to me as has been stated in the prophecy. .The woman in still alive. She will inevitably come to my wedlock. I expect this to happen, rather, I have full faith in this. These are divinely ordained matters and are bound to occur. (MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD QADIYANI
Al-Hakam Qadian, August 10, 1901)
But Mohammadi begum never ever got married to mirza ghulam ahmad qadiani
lahoria007 3 years ago
I'm confused, your page seems to indicate that you are an Ahmadi, but you are quoting from MGA's book that clearly indicates his falsehood.
Even if the Ahmadis have a way around that quote, he's still chasing around a married lady. That's VERY disrespectful.
farhan00 3 years ago
im not a qadiani . im just pointing out a famous prediction of mirza qadiani which didnt come true
lahoria007 3 years ago
keep up the great work bro
may allah bless u
rajaone1 3 years ago
Islam is so great millions of morons from failure Muslim countries come to the west begging for bread. Then we have dumbass westerners like this guy who convert.
LawrenceErnie 3 years ago
funny thing is. on top of "khatima", it says " khatimun nabiyeen, and the definition is "seal of the prophets"
h4k6h1 3 years ago
are you pakistani?
h4k6h1 3 years ago
Dear brother Mashallah i am very impressed.
where i can get more information about qadyani.
tahiraccountant 3 years ago
thanks my brother for all your beaty video
i love you for allah
أني أحبك في الله
Karim137 3 years ago
Jazaka Allah khair brother.May Allah reward you for your great work,very good video. I pray to Allah that more qadianis revert to Islam and abandon their deceitful ways.
briefjourney 3 years ago
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Ghulam Qadiyani said: "I have never claimed that I am Messiah Ibne Maryam and he who accuses me of such a thing, he is absolutely a liar and a fabricator." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 192)
BUT in another of his books :
"I claim that I am the Promised Messiah, about whom all the Holy Books of God have foretold that he will appear in the last days." (Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.295)
READ THE SOURCES YOURSELVES PEOPLE. HOW CAN HE BE A PROPHET? HE ISN'T
4minus3 3 years ago
From where I can download that "Quran in warsh)
Hope you tell me please.
Miniclip420 3 years ago
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Ask yourself this question... according to the hadith sunnah that imam mahdi come from the prophet lineage and that he carry the ark of convenant that prophet moses,arron, then passes down to prophet david and solomon and loss in time.. in time of imam mahdi he shall carry this ark as a sign of god and he will appear in dasmucus in syria not miza gulam at bangladesh. he's a false messiah you all should indulge in the sunnah of the holy prophet rather than read all his nonsense
iceberk007 3 years ago
Farhan00: I challenge you to present a single example from Arabic Literature where the word "Khaatam" when attributed to humans means "THE LAST". There were too many LAST of the kings belonging to various families like "Mughal Family" etc. Was ever the Word "Khaatam" used for Bahadur Shah Zafar - The Last of the Mughal Kings????? If not then why??????
Similarly, you can never present a single example from Arabic literature where the Word "Khaatam" when used for human, is merely used for "LAST"
dawah2 3 years ago
dawah2: Malik Ghulam Farid's dictionary, the official Ahmadi dictionary of the Qur'an, claims to be based off of Mufridaat al-Qur'an, Taj al-'Uroos, Lisaan al-'Arab, Lane's Lexicon, etc.
I looked up these dictionaries and all of them say it means "Last", and some even give the example of Khaatam an-Nabieen.
If you want to check for yourself, do a google search for Lane's Lexicon, Volume II, Page 339
or lexicons,sakhr,com and look it up in the classical lexicons listed there
farhan00 3 years ago
The word ختم has always meant 'Seal' in the sense of "nothing more".
I challenge you to show me where in the classical dictionaries referenced by Malik Ghulam Farid the meaning of ختم ever means "Seal" in the sense of "Embellishment". If you cannot, kindly acknowledge that this is a made-up definition of the word.
I've looked them up myself. "Seal" is used to mean "Nothing more", "Barrier", "Finality", etc
farhan00 3 years ago
lol sarmad or dahwa2 you even cant challange yourself.
awais123 3 years ago
Farhan00: I repeat my challenge that you to present a single example from Arabic Literature where the word "Khaatam" WHEN ATTRIBUTED TO HUMAN means "THE LAST". There were too many LAST of the kings belonging to various families like "Mughals" etc. Was ever the Word "Khaatam" used for Bahadur Shah Zafar - The Last of the Mughal Kings? If not then why???
Similarly, you can never present a single example from Arabic literature where the Word "Khaatam" when used for human, is merely used for "LAST"
dawah2 3 years ago
Uhh, scroll up and re-read what I wrote
farhan00 3 years ago
Qadianism exposed...
The British government is also supporting this movement and making it easy for their followers to get positions in world vernments, corporate administration and consulates.Some of them are also high-ranking officers in the secret services.
Why the unbelievers support them because they're against Islamic teachings. They Quran says "The unbelievers will not help you don't take them friends." So it means that Qadianism is anti Islamic Teachings . They are Hypocrites.
Miniclip420 3 years ago
Qadianism exposed...
The Majlis al-Ummah in Pakistan (the central parliament) debated with the Qadiani leader Mirza Naasir Ahmad, and he was refuted by Shaykh Mufti Mahmood (may Allaah have mercy on him). The debate went on for nearly thirty hours but Naasir Ahmad was unable to give answers and the Kufr of this group was exposed, so the Majlis issued a statement that the Qadianis should be regarded as a non-Muslim minority.
Miniclip420 3 years ago
Qadianiism exposed...
Qadianiyyah is a movement that started in 1900 CE as a plot by the British colonialists in the Indian subcontinent, with the aim of diverting Muslims away from their religion and from the obligation of jihaad in particular, so that they would not oppose colonialism in the name of Islam.
Miniclip420 3 years ago
brother farhan00, which sect of Islam are you in? have you seen other sect in side you tube (wahabi, deobandi, chakrealvi, shia, ismaili and etc) each one of them have their own opinion regarding Islam. And each one of the sect publish their own fatwa that wahabi is kafir, shia is kafir? please give comment on this matter. Thank you.
libertyoffreedom 4 years ago
All minor groups combined (including Ahmadiyyah) make up less than 15% of the global Muslim community.
The beliefs within Ahl as-Sunnah Islam are 95% the same. The other differences lay in deep issues of 'Aqeedah which the average person does not even involve himself with.
To say Deobandi, Wahabi, etc are separate sects is a gross mis-characterization. One will only realize the difference between them after asking *probing* questions. Otherwise, same thing.
farhan00 4 years ago
Dear brother Farhan,sincerely many thanks for you, including Ahmadiyyah inside "Global Muslim community". Hopefully many same of "Brother Farhan00" simply did not produce Kafir or Murtad as a "flying darts" to other person or community. and thanks for you clarification and explanation. And I personally appologise for any mistake or etc. Again thanks.
libertyoffreedom 4 years ago
No, because if you look at the Muslims, yes disagree on certain issues, but agree on the FUNDAMENTALS of the religion. One of the fundamentals of which there is no compromise is that Muhammad Sal Allahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam is the last Prophet.
Ahmadiyya believes in another Prophet. This is no minor issue of disagreement. This is a MAJOR deviation from Islam.
Therefore, Ahmadis are not Muslims.
farhan00 4 years ago
Mashalla..
May Allah give you Jaza.
koolbravo 4 years ago
Great video brother, Jazakallah khair for the research, the evidence, the clear presentation and the upload. May Allah reward you, and guide the ahmediyyah back to Orthodox Islam.
nightwolf1453 4 years ago
I have noticed that sometimes I present evidence to Ahmadis and they *themselves* acknowledge that it is correct, but they do not leave Ahmadiyyah...
farhan00 3 years ago
I agree with you. Thank you for uploading.
rehanrehanrehan 4 years ago
mashallah rehan god bless you I am agree with you.very nice explaination.we muslim proud of you.thanks for your time u gave, and came in your mind to explain these things.
ArmanKhanPKNLIE 4 years ago
Mirza created a NEW religion taking coverage of few verses of Noble Quran, twisted in his favor and a couple of Hadiths.
He deleted Jihad abd Zakat to please British Ruler of the time and for his family's welfare.
MIRZA claims himself various personalities (1) God (2) Rebirth of Mohammed (PBUH) (3) Hazrat Isa AS (4) Imam Mahdi (5) Lord Krishna (Hindue God) (6) New Reformer
He has tried to portray himself a super natural person to nullify all holy and pious persons sent by Allah time to time.
Rizkhanae 4 years ago
The level of your knowledge is stunning (in a dissapointing manner). You don't even know that Durr-e-Manthur is a sunni work, written by a sunni scholar. What more are you going to surprise me with tomorrow? Get your facts straight.
amahmoodkhan 4 years ago
You didn't answer my question. Do you agree with his Tafseer?
farhan00 4 years ago
You will get an answer in the video I shall post tomorrow.
amahmoodkhan 4 years ago
By the way - you didn't answer mine either. But don't worry, you shall get your response in my video which shall be posted in response to latest response video.
amahmoodkhan 4 years ago
His (ra) tafsir,hahaha. A few days ago you disagreed with him as a legitimate scholar and now you advance his tafsir? And you were the one who said Ahmadis use any scholar they can get their hands on. I have his tafsir here on my bookshelf in Arabic and he does not oppose the Ahmadi contention. His words are quite neutral.
haqeeqatulwahi 4 years ago
You still have yet to comment regarding his Tafseer. Do you accept it or not?
btw, we responded to this point in our first video series.
farhan00 4 years ago
Mirza Ghulam ahmed:
"And the Finality of the Prophethood was granted to him not only because he appeared last of all, in period of time, but also because all the excellences of prophethood came to an end with him." [Lecture Islam, Sialkot (2nd November 1904), p.6]
Why dont you belive in your prophet?
looking4right 4 years ago
Please provide any reference from the books of mirza Ghulam ahmed that the word KHATAm was not used a Final/last prophet it was used for BEST but not last? Just a single proof will be appriciated.
And Belive what your prophet says.
looking4right 4 years ago
Mirza ghulam ahmed Said:
"And surely our Messenger is Khatam an-Nabiyyin and with him is cut off the chain of messengers, so no one has the right to claim substantial prophethood (mustaqil nubuwwat) after our Messenger, the Chosen one, and nothing remains after him except abundance of communication." [Haqiqat al-Wahy, Supplement, p. 64.] Why dont u belive in ur prophet?.
looking4right 4 years ago
Just re-read your last response, you don't make any sense whatsoever. The narration posted by Sarmad is supported by Suyuti - durr-e-manthur is his work, therefore its a sunni work (its not rocket science). You agree to his tafsir, but you don't agree to the authenticity of his other narrations?!
amahmoodkhan 4 years ago
Brother, read a biography on Imam Al-Suyuti, he is a great sunni scholar, and even studied under sunni teachers.
Please get your facts straight before you make such assertions. I'm sorry to say you do that a lot.
amahmoodkhan 4 years ago
MR farhan00, simply Quran has no contradictions in it what so ever. ***accept that first***hope to agree*** now what about verse 69, CH 4, """Whoso obeyeth Allah and the messenger, they are with those unto whom Allah hath shown favour, of the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they! (69)""""
coralsnakes 4 years ago
They are with the one, but they cant become Prophets?they are with martyrs but they are not martyrs, they are with Saints but they are not saints.
Hope you understand
looking4right 4 years ago
Hadhrat Abdrur Rahman narrates that he used to teach Hadhrat Hasan and Hussein (as). Once Hadhrat Ali (ra), passed nearby him whilst he was teaching them. He said to him, 'Teach them Khataman Nabiyyeen with the vowal a (fat'ha) on ta.
[Durr-e-Manthur, Vol.5, Pg.386]
Can Farhaan00 present a single quote from the Prophet (saw) or his 4 Khulaf Rashideens which says that reading "Khatim" in 33:40 is also correct? If not then how could he claim that both Qira'ats of 33:40 are of same authenticity?
sarmadahmad 4 years ago
sarmadahmad, non Ahmadi Muslims would accept to create contradictions in the Holly Quran but ppl like farhan00 would not accept the truth that prophets can come...they are helpless...we can just pray for these poor people...MAy Allah Guide All NON AHMADI MUSLIMS TO THE RIGHT PATH...
coralsnakes 4 years ago
May Allah guide all Ahmadis to Islam.
Ameen Ya al-Hadi!
farhan00 4 years ago
Ali taught them how to pronounce, since there are 8 different styles, Khatam and KhatiM leads to the same conclusion. Ali(r.a) was not the narrator of Quran, the hadith on this subject is mentioned below:
looking4right 4 years ago
Ibn Abbas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Gabriel taught me to recite in one style. I replied to him and kept asking him to give more (styles), till he reached seven modes (of recitation). Ibn Shihab said: It has reached me that these seven styles are essentially one, not differing about what is permitted and what is forbidden. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.390).
looking4right 4 years ago
Why would Allah send a prophet of Israel to the ummah of Muhammad (saw)? If "Khatam" is also valid (i.e. seal) according to you, why send a prophet who does NOT bear the seal of Muhammad (saw)?
I want to close by saying I appreciate the dignity and polite manner with which you speak.
mirzmaster 4 years ago
Muslim Ummah would have so bad and crypt that there would no one in the Whole Muslims who could become prophet then they will have to barrow a prophet of another religion who will put the muslim ummah to the right path... What a non sense... LA HO LA WA QUA TA... INA LILLAH... NON AHMADI MUSLIMS WILL HAVE TO GET JESUS OF ISRAEL WHO WILL THEN GUIDE THE MUSLIMS... MAKES ME LAUGH...
coralsnakes 4 years ago
Coralsnakes: Hazrat Isa was a Muslim in present terminology, moreover he will return back as a ummati of Muhammed(PBHU. You believing in Ghulam Ahmed is nothing but kufr.
May Allah guide qadiani bros and sis to Islam.
irfan786in 4 years ago
Hazrat Isa (as) may have been a Muslim by the definition of righteousness of that time, but after the shining example of the Holy Prophet (saw), what is he? He bears neither the seal of Muhammad (saw), nor is he anything but a prophet of the Israelites.
mirzmaster 4 years ago
You preface your argument by saying there are 10 qira'ah and none is more authentic/correct than the other, but yet your whole argument is based on your preference for the qira'ah that translates to "end". Why?
Also, your argument about Isa (as) being the last prophet on earth but not the end is entirely misguided. It does not take a religious scholar to tell you it sounds like a loophole, but let's examine this.
mirzmaster 4 years ago
What will be the status of Jesus son of Mary (as) when he is sent at the end of times?
The Promised Messiah will be called "Prophet of God," Nabiyullah. Muslim, Vol. 2, p.515
Does this not contradict your translation of the verse?
SaifullaKhalid 4 years ago
No.
farhan00 4 years ago
Farhan, on one hand you are saying that no prophets can come after Holy Prophet (saw), yet you believe that Jesus (as) will descend. If your argument is that Jesus (as) was already a prophet and his coming back will not cause any difference to the Khatam e Nabuwwah, then please tell me who will be the last prophet on earth?
SaifullaKhalid 4 years ago
what a stupid thing to say....but it doesnt surprise me, u people r at war with islam
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago
Sahih Bukhari states a Hadith in which Ibn e Abbas (ra) told someone to recite the word Khatam with a fath (zabar) on the letter "ta". What was in his mind when he said that?
SaifullaKhalid 4 years ago
They claim to be champions of islam, what a joke, their so called mosques are desserted at salah time, at fajr u would be lucky if the place opened. Their leader is not a scholar but an ignorant unread farmer.
The few of them that are sincere see thru the rubbish and become muslims, the rest, they are competing to enter the fire, and may Allah protect us. ameen.
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago
They do not discuss or debate with any logic or evidence, because they are not really interested in iman. I thought when i was young it was because they had not seen the hadiths, but even when I showed them they dont care. they spilt hairs like the munafiqeen of madina.
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago
these people behave exactly like munafiqs of medina, their only arguement is against Ulema and the Muslims. No jew or christian has as much hatred for muslims as these people. Islam and Muslims are labels they use to gain credibilty, it is infact a money making scheme.
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago
Asalamalaykum,
Brother farhan, I am laughing at the fact that u find ahmadis elusive. I have discussed with these people for years. Most of them have their hearts sealed. They dont give a hoot about daleel, in the Quran or hadith. Mirza the murtad stated he would throw out any hadith that rejected him.
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago
Abu Sufiyan fought against Islam for his entire life and accepted Islam in the very end of his life.
We do not know who Allah will guide...or misguide.
farhan00 4 years ago
After Ibrahim pbuh that is. Their linege is respectable.
josevanreyes 4 years ago
Why do you believe in some random Asian dude? No offense but All prophets have either been Jew or Arab(Ishmael and Muhammed pbut) Muhammed pbuh was a PURE Arab an Adnanian Arabia directly from Abraham pbuh. This guy is a Random Half Asian quater Persia dude..
josevanreyes 4 years ago
why are you going against Islam by saying only Arab's or Jews can be prophets. Do you not know that Muhammad(saw) said that there are 124,000 prophets sent by Allah. Also the Qu'ran says that there is not a nation to which a messanger was not sent. So do you still hold to the veiw that prophets can only be Arab or Jews????????????????
saadb1990 4 years ago
I posted a video response to this.
Everyone check it out!
farhan00 4 years ago
great video. brother keep it up. all muslims are with you.
reply2qadanis 4 years ago
This video has been on for 8 days, not a single person has given me a straight, direct response.
Either people have tried to change the subject to 'Isa, or rejected the Qira'at all together.
No straight answers!!
I wonder why...
farhan00 4 years ago
dear brother would u reccomend sufi'ism
i partially understand it but i just
politely request a video on ur view on sufi'ism shukru.w/salaam
windowsit 4 years ago
I try to avoid inter-Muslim disputes. I love and respect all Muslims, regardless of their schools of thought, especially at this difficult time for Islam and the Muslims.
Best I not comment either way lol
farhan00 4 years ago
mash'allah brother im only 14 years of age and im disgust in people thinking that there is a prophet after the last rasool'allah (saw)
you look like an awesome guy..and a true muslim u can see this buy the noor on your face..keep it up with these videos and can you put some videos up of sal'aah because i have many confused people and it would most probably help the converts...thanks w/salaam
windowsit 4 years ago
FATWA BY AL-AZHAR UNIVERSITY (HIGHEST SEAT OF SUNNI LEARNING) ON THE DEATH OF ISA(AS:
pzsdftp (DOT) googlegroups (DOT)com/web/FatwaArabicEngF (DOT) pdf
saadb1990 4 years ago
i do belive in these fatwa as i told u if somebody do not belive in return of isa? r u sleeping or crazy?
looking4right 4 years ago
I belive in Imam malik, imam shulatat rector of jamat al azhar university cairo, r u deaf, but where it is written that and new prophet will come in quran, do u know arabic?
looking4right 4 years ago
FATWA BY AL-AZHAR UNIVERSITY (HIGHEST SEAT OF SUNNI LEARNING) ON THE DEATH OF ISA(AS:
pzsdftp (DOT) googlegroups (DOT)com/web/FatwaArabicEngF (DOT) pdf
saadb1990 4 years ago
I don't know much about Ahmadi (Mazhab) but I would like to know this important thing. There are 25 prophets of Islam (from Adam AS to Muhammad SAW). And there are 4 Rasuls (Messenger of Allah: Musa AS, Dawud AS, Isa AS and Muhammad SAW). Any Ahmadi's out there DISAGREE with this? That is all I need to know. The rest is just another interpretation. Peace be upon you all.
skalor2 4 years ago
well im sorry borther but i think to need 2 re-check the Qu'ran & Hadith. The qu'ran says that prophets were wsent to every people & in an authenik hadith the prophet (saw) sed that there 124,000 prophets. 25 have just been named in the qu'ran
saadb1990 4 years ago
quran at each and evey place says that no new peophet will emerge, AKMAL, KAMIL, are the wordings used in quran, no new good news is inside quran for new prophet like in injeel that "of people a prophet will come from you and he will speak with your language". its you pethetic people trying to get the meaning wrong. show me just one verse.
looking4right 4 years ago
O CHILDREN OF ADAM! IF MESSENGERS COME TO YOU FROM AMONG YOURSELVES, REHEARSING MY SIGNS UNTO YOU, FEAR GOD AND DO GOOD DEEDS AS THEN, NO FEAR OR GRIEF SHALL TOUCH YOU (Al Quran, 7:36)
saadb1990 4 years ago
who is the target here first tell me by ur self? is that we or... please tell me by urself.
looking4right 4 years ago
HE IT IS WHO HAS RAISED AMONG THE UNLETTERED A MESSENGER FROM AMONG THEMSELVES WHO RECITES UNTO THEM HIS SIGNS, AND PURIFIES THEM, AND TEACHES THEM THE BOOK AND WISDOM, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD BEEN, BEFORE, IN MANIFEST MISGUIDANCE. AND AMONG OTHERS FROM AMONG THEM WHO HAVE NOT YET JOINED THEM. HE IS THE MIGHTY, THE WISE (The Holy Quran, 62:3-4)
saadb1990 4 years ago
becuase you people blive in pick and choose method which is abided by quran itsself, u pick the surrah which descrbies the meaning to support u and leave the rest like ur khalifas do. even in pick and choose you make huge mistakes like farhan has shown inshallah i ll show you each and everything hold on
looking4right 4 years ago
do not speak without knowledge brother the qu'ran says of people lyk you wu beleuev no messanger will ever be raised up agin And Joseph did come to you before with clear proofs, but you ceased not to be in doubt concerning that with which he came to you till, when he died, you said: 'Allah will never raise up a Messenger after him.' Thus does Allah adjudge as lost those who transgress, (and) are doubters. (Al Quran: 40:35
saadb1990 4 years ago
u need lot of things to tell you and i think this comments window wont allow me to do so, your khalifas have brainwahsed you like lime soda, i will inshallah answer your each and every question in the message, we will see who got the knowledge and dont, i all also discuss the curcumstances in which the surrah was revealed inshallah hold on.
looking4right 4 years ago
The main question is this:
Ahmadis, do you reject the Ayah which I showed you in this video? If no, and the Prophet Muhammad is the LAST of the Prophets, how does MGA fit into the picture?
farhan00 4 years ago
farhan, We do not reject the Ayah - we interpret it differently.
You have your interpretation, we have ours. So lets just leave it at that.
There is no point in trying to force your interpretation on anyone as what you interpret from Quran is ultimately between you and Allah.
fivex5 4 years ago
fivex5, If you interpret "Seal of the Prophets" differently, I disagree, but I can see how you would do so.
But, how do you interpret "End of the Prophets" differently?
farhan00 4 years ago
Because we do. We have right to disagree with your interpretation as much as you have a right to disagree with ours and Allah will judge which is right.
"He wishes to try you by that which He has given you. Vie then with one another in doing good works. To Allah shall you all return; then He will inform you of that wherein you differed"
[Quran 5:49]
fivex5 4 years ago
fivex5,
How exactly do you interpret "End of the Prophets" to anything but "End of the Prophets"?
farhan00 4 years ago
Because you misinterpret the word "Seal".
Does the word 'Seal' in "Seal of the United States" mean that all other states that are united are false states?
fivex5 4 years ago
the word is not missinterpreted do not play with quran i know your language is not arabic neither your prophet was arabic but quran was made for pure arabs 1400 years ago as their native language was like quran, no body had any objection with this ayat untill 1300 many kazib claimed to be the prophet by chaning the meaning of ayata.
looking4right 4 years ago
continue..
so thata why rasool allah said that there ll 30 dajjal in my claiming to be the prophet so how come a person claim to be prophet if quran doenst support him in his theory? so in every kazibs theory quran supports him that he is the new prophet but rasool allah finished the story with this hadith,
looking4right 4 years ago
ye well did u not read the hadoith in which the prophet s.a.w sed dat Isa (a) will be a prophet ????? The 30 Dajjals would be ppl claiming to bring a new religion etc. How can u say the final messge of Allah wud not be sent with a Messiah 2 revive the religion???? u fink we wud b in such bad luck to revceive 30 dajjals but not 1 Truthful???????
saadb1990 4 years ago
ok for instance if anyone do not belive about the comming isa back? what will u say then? and if he says that all the people who claim to be the prophet of God after rasool allah are liars. what do you say then?
looking4right 4 years ago
End of the law bearing prophets
saadb1990 4 years ago
whiach ayat says that end of LAW BEARING prophets only? please quote it i am here.
looking4right 4 years ago
Khatim means last, Muhammed(saw) vrought thwe last law, so Muhamme(saw) was the last law bearing prophet
saadb1990 4 years ago
Saadb1990,
The Ayah says "Last of the Prophets" not "Last of the Law-bearing Prophets"
That would be "Khaatim ar-Rusul"
farhan00 4 years ago
No we dont we take it in its real meanig the Best & last law breaing prophet.
saadb1990 4 years ago
End of the peophets not only law, quran would have mentioned if he was only the law bearing prophet, quran didnt mentioned it that he was the end of law bearing its what the mentality of qadianis/bhais who missinterpret those ayat. if someone do not belive in 2nd comming of isa how would u treat him?
looking4right 4 years ago
OK IF THERE QURAN DOES NOT MEntion that he is the last law bearinf peophet does that mean anybody will be able to add to Islam???????????? well how can you not believe in the second coming (im not sayin literally how muslim nowadays & jews i nterpretated as in the old prophet will literally come down)
saadb1990 4 years ago
no i just asked the word show me LAW BEARING in quran? where does it written in whole quran just give me a hint.Khatam means best for instance not law bearing and you are fail to provide anything untill now? r u there?
looking4right 4 years ago
i need ur words please
looking4right 4 years ago
where is law, do u know the arabic of law? or ur forefather know? even khatam doesnt mean law bearing, could u please give me the arabic of law bearing?
looking4right 4 years ago
Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not heard"; and Ra'ina; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. Surah 4.46
see it clearly and give it 2 ur murabi too.
looking4right 4 years ago
yes i know its a shame U are displacing words & like the Jews rejecting the TRU messiah because he did not come according to YOUR interpretations.
saadb1990 4 years ago
The main question is this:
Ahmadis, do you reject the Ayah which I showed you in this video? If no, and the Prophet Muhammad is the LAST of the Prophets, how does MGA fit into the picture?
farhan00 4 years ago
of corurse we elieve in this Ayah, Muhammed is the best prophet & to prove it he brought the final message & he was the last aw breaing prophet (no contradiction there).
saadb1990 4 years ago
The Ayah says "Last Prophet", Khaatim an-Nabieen. It does not say anything about law-bearing vs non-law bearing Prophets.
Even if you say Khaatam means "Best", one cannot reject the fact that Khaatim means "Last"
farhan00 3 years ago
Qadianiism exposed...
Qadianiyyah is a movement that started in 1900 CE as a plot by the British colonialists in the Indian subcontinent, with the aim of diverting Muslims away from their religion and from the obligation of jihaad in particular, so that they would not oppose colonialism in the name of Islam.
Miniclip420 3 years ago
To aimalkhan:
also you didnt answer ma Q
the Christians worship Isa as God & the Quran bears witness to this aswell but then the Qu'ran also states:
"And those on whom they call beside Allah create not anything, but they are themselves created. They are DEAD NOT LIVING and they know not when they will be raised." (16:21-22)
(THIS INCLUDES ISA(as)
saadb1990 4 years ago
I answered you before. Read it in context. Issa AS is not mentioned by name. Regarding Issa AS I showed u the verse which states clearly that Allah saved him from the cross and raised him up to Himself.
Surah 4:157-158
aimalkhan 4 years ago