both balls have good snap at the backend, the first ball i would recommend for medium to heavy oil conditions, second ball would be for extremely heavy conditions
well my venom is drilled like the venom 2. but last time i seen it move like that was .... have i seen it move like that??? lol i need 2 get around the ball more.
i also have a black widow works perfect for me. my first two games was 265 and 258. the core is very nice and suits the ball. if you know how to release it. nice video . one of my friends has the pearl the venom and pearl is one heck of a ball
The captain of varsity on my school's team has this ball. Or at least I think he does. I know it's a Black Widow, has the spider on it. But I'm not sure if it's a Venom...
Dude the pearl sucks lol but Venom is amazing. Takes alot to control. Dont put too many revs in cause it will shoot all the way across the lane in no time lol
I have the Black Widow Pearl and I love it!!! It's my baby Lol :) I recomend it for its quality. It's a wonderful ball. I'm still not sure about the Venom. I believe the ball quality and drilling is definitly important but if the bowlers not good then the ball is useless. The person in the video is definitly experienced so I'll have to do more research. I've been bowling for 9 years and i definitly recomend the Pearl :)
i dont think there is a white widow, i spoke to a knowledgeable guy about the subject working at a proshop and he said black widows next ball is going to be the slash released late july early august 09
I carry a 199 average with the "Too Hot" by storm. I bought this ball and first game after drilling was a 266. It took 2 frames to get it figured out and then struck out. I followed it with a 245 and 235.
Their is an exclusive bowling ball called "The Chalk" made by Hammer and is white and grey, it is a nice ball. Since they only made 700 of them in the world, not everyone can get it. So, soon they are coming out with a ball called "THE WHITE WIDOW" It will be the same thing as "The Chalk"
At my local pro shop the guy who works their is on the hammer staff so word gets around. I don't know when the ball will be released though. I sure hope the White Widow isn't a rumor though
I don't know, maybe their just not telling anyone. But the guy at my shop told me, and research the ball called "The Chalk" its the same thing as the White Widow will be
too bad this ball will only hook and hit like this for 40-80 games just like all hammer and ebonite stuff.The only good hammer balls lately were the black widow, cherry vibe,emerald vibe, and psycho.All the rest die out.
personally i liked this ball, i shot 300 and 817 with it but it didnt hook nearly as much as hammer made it sound like but i personally think that storm makes the best balls out there i just got this ball because its cheaper through the university
out of all the black widows i think i like the bite better because my high series wit it is a 702 and my best with the other is 609 bite has better snap on any lane condition for me for some reason and im only 14! and i use a 16 pound ball
u dont need all that weight thats why your sets are lower u will shoot 50 to 65 pins higher i was the same way until a pro suggested i go down in weight from 16 to 14.9 pounds my accuracy increased and i left less 10 pins...........
I have been bowling with a Roto-Grip Rush for two years- highest series was a 450. I bought a Hammer Black Widow Venom and first series out of the box was a 420!!! So, I am kinda partial to the Hammer Venom, highly aggressive and it creates awesome pin-smashing action! Hope this helps!
i had the tornado, its pretty weak unless u surface it way down to grip the lane. i just got my venom like 2 weeks ago and i rolled 233-237-238 right out of the box. highest score of the year with the tornado was 220 so the venom does wonders
my layout of my BWV im not sure what it is, but it has nowhere near the hook it should have, the HMB is to the left of the thumb, and the two dots(yellow and the small white circle are at the 11 oclock and 7oclock positions on my ring finger(i throw left handed) is this supposed to be an agressive layout or is this tailored for a slight hook?
at 3:11 if you move about 2-3 boards right and about 3-4 inches towards the lane on the approach. it will carry those 10 pins. or sometimes its the same thing on moving except u might have to move back towards the bowlers area. it hits pocket but moving back gives the ball more time to roll. and moving up towards the lane will save some of the balls power and turn it into more carry when the ball hits.
in my opinion it depends on the type of line you play. if u throw a larger hook then you would want the cell because it reads the lane earlier. if you play a tighter line then you would want the venom because it will roll down the lane and the snap into the pocket.
The Venom, BWP, and the Bite have an extremely nice reaction i would recomend them. I bowl with a Bite and i love it. I also find this to be the most forgiving ball i own as well
dude. i went through the same problem. no joke. if your wanting a ball that will hook with a lot of speed. the only ball that i would find that would do that is the Storm Fired Up. it is a pearlized ball that hooks the most out of any ball ive ever thrown.i put a lot of speed on the ball but i got rid of it though because i got my speed down and i only throw hammer now.
im a mid to high rev rate bowler... and this ball is an animal to control.. if your a high rev rate bowler i would recomend this only if you throw it hard enough.. my friend has it and whips it down the lane and it still hooks and hes a stroker.. its a beast
I've got a Pearl and the original Black Widow. The Pearl has very little ball deflection once it gets around the corner and headed to the pocket. I noticed the Venom # 1 has a lot of ball deflection. The # 2 layout is much better but look out for those 9 pins. My Pearl leaves them on solid pocket hits. It blows through the rack.
The Venom was a hell of a ball.. My favorite Widow tbh.
DrivillianGenocide 10 months ago
both balls have good snap at the backend, the first ball i would recommend for medium to heavy oil conditions, second ball would be for extremely heavy conditions
tikibird1970 1 year ago
Dies To Quick
XxUnStoppableForcexX 1 year ago
The name of the first song is prelude 12/21 By AFI.
xXlBERSERKIXx 1 year ago
well my venom is drilled like the venom 2. but last time i seen it move like that was .... have i seen it move like that??? lol i need 2 get around the ball more.
ilike2cudance 1 year ago
i also have a black widow works perfect for me. my first two games was 265 and 258. the core is very nice and suits the ball. if you know how to release it. nice video . one of my friends has the pearl the venom and pearl is one heck of a ball
jjramd2i 1 year ago
dammit i wanna try pba oil patterns so bad
Kingbisket08 1 year ago
what's the name of the the second song
dirtyolbum96 1 year ago
@dirtyolbum96 no one knows by queens of the stone age
alb9110 1 year ago
i just got the ball, the first game i through with it was a 203, a reccomend it strongly
acdclover013 1 year ago
i have both of those balls and i love them
nightshift1100 2 years ago
what is the name of first song?
MrRoottori23 2 years ago
kiss my eyes and lay me to sleep
acdclover013 1 year ago
The captain of varsity on my school's team has this ball. Or at least I think he does. I know it's a Black Widow, has the spider on it. But I'm not sure if it's a Venom...
RCROX5000 2 years ago
Love It ................PERIOD
aadamskr 2 years ago
what the song at the begining
curtiscurtis2 2 years ago
prelume 12/24 by afl
dingdongditcher123 2 years ago
Miss Murder
itsmystory2 2 years ago
Dude the pearl sucks lol but Venom is amazing. Takes alot to control. Dont put too many revs in cause it will shoot all the way across the lane in no time lol
Thrall747 2 years ago
@Thrall747 u have no ball speed if not u cant ajust :)
bowlingroo 2 years ago
That makes absolutely no sense. Ball speed has almost nothing to do with it, it is all drive.
Thrall474 2 years ago
Ball speed is what effects the ball the most..
itsmystory2 2 years ago
Apparently you didn't read my conversation with bowlingroo.. Read it and see how stupid you really are (:
Thrall474 2 years ago
Insult me all you want, I call it like I see it.. No need to be childish for a mistake.
itsmystory2 2 years ago
Learn to read and I might not be.
Thrall474 2 years ago
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thegarrethasketsong 1 year ago
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thegarrethasketsong 1 year ago
@thegarrethasketsong why don't you think before you post? That was a month ago, it's old news. Get the fuck over it.
HurrikaneZero 1 year ago
not really i could put all the revs i want i just couldnt stand in the spot i wanted to be
dingdongditcher123 2 years ago
5:56 so dirty
st3alth212 2 years ago
wen it says dark
lildsax 2 years ago
prelude 12/21 i think
vstri1 2 years ago
im sorry i mean the first song
lildsax 2 years ago
wats the name of this song
lildsax 2 years ago
I have the Black Widow Pearl and I love it!!! It's my baby Lol :) I recomend it for its quality. It's a wonderful ball. I'm still not sure about the Venom. I believe the ball quality and drilling is definitly important but if the bowlers not good then the ball is useless. The person in the video is definitly experienced so I'll have to do more research. I've been bowling for 9 years and i definitly recomend the Pearl :)
squigles94 2 years ago
I love this ball! my high game with it is a 297 =]]
yimmiezgonewild 2 years ago
I think u mean the chalk its a white bowling ball
Low1973 2 years ago
HOW OLD ARE YOU
igetamercedes 2 years ago
i dont think there is a white widow, i spoke to a knowledgeable guy about the subject working at a proshop and he said black widows next ball is going to be the slash released late july early august 09
mikezukie 2 years ago
The newest Black Widow is the Sting, just showed up on Hammers web site, and by looking at the video it is going to be the best widow yet.
arhskr81 2 years ago
i totally agree wit u on it being the best one yet
superfreako8 2 years ago
what's a good backup ball to the venom
shaddog95 2 years ago
I carry a 199 average with the "Too Hot" by storm. I bought this ball and first game after drilling was a 266. It took 2 frames to get it figured out and then struck out. I followed it with a 245 and 235.
biglopr 2 years ago
Their is an exclusive bowling ball called "The Chalk" made by Hammer and is white and grey, it is a nice ball. Since they only made 700 of them in the world, not everyone can get it. So, soon they are coming out with a ball called "THE WHITE WIDOW" It will be the same thing as "The Chalk"
hamm3rhead300 2 years ago
Where did you hear about Hammer making a "White Widow"?
arhskr81 2 years ago
At my local pro shop the guy who works their is on the hammer staff so word gets around. I don't know when the ball will be released though. I sure hope the White Widow isn't a rumor though
hamm3rhead300 2 years ago
I hope so too. The reason I asked is beacuse I emailed Hammer and they did not say thry were.
arhskr81 2 years ago
I don't know, maybe their just not telling anyone. But the guy at my shop told me, and research the ball called "The Chalk" its the same thing as the White Widow will be
hamm3rhead300 2 years ago
this is a really good ball
bowljuggles 2 years ago
too bad this ball will only hook and hit like this for 40-80 games just like all hammer and ebonite stuff.The only good hammer balls lately were the black widow, cherry vibe,emerald vibe, and psycho.All the rest die out.
Storm900Global 2 years ago
the toxic is good too
FSTCHEMIDS 2 years ago
keep your ball clean and keep resurfacing after 60 games and your balls wont die out lol
spankydubbs 2 years ago
sucks that hammer is disscontinuing black widow ={
bowlingprodogy 2 years ago
r they really
superfreako8 2 years ago
doesnt look like it
pokemon989359 2 years ago
yea they keep putting out more and more balls....doesnt look like they will
scottietobias 2 years ago
well if they do, i am gonna buy about 6 of each!
spankydubbs 2 years ago
That is not true!!!
1st: Black widow solid
2nd: Black widow Bite
3rd: Black Widow Pearl
4th: Black Widow Venom
*NEW* 5th: Black Widow Harv *NEW*
(Coming Soon)
teothedemon 2 years ago
no the black widow harv is a european ball not made in the u.s
lostkid4life88 2 years ago
Yes but that still doesn't mean u can't order it!!!! here are some i missed!!!
Black Widow Solid
Black Widow Clear
Black Widow Bite
Black Widow Pearl
Black Widow Venom
Black Widow Harv (European)
Black Widow Harv II (European)
Black Widow Sting (European)
Just order them online!!!
teothedemon 2 years ago
u also missed the black widow bite bpr(european)
superfreako8 2 years ago
personally i liked this ball, i shot 300 and 817 with it but it didnt hook nearly as much as hammer made it sound like but i personally think that storm makes the best balls out there i just got this ball because its cheaper through the university
emoney279713 2 years ago
out of all the black widows i think i like the bite better because my high series wit it is a 702 and my best with the other is 609 bite has better snap on any lane condition for me for some reason and im only 14! and i use a 16 pound ball
Tw1sTedxInFeRn0 2 years ago
u dont need all that weight thats why your sets are lower u will shoot 50 to 65 pins higher i was the same way until a pro suggested i go down in weight from 16 to 14.9 pounds my accuracy increased and i left less 10 pins...........
Liteskintreat 2 years ago
can any1 help me?
i really want to buy a bowling ball
which one is best for me?
i played with a normal ball 14lbs from the alley with two fingers and i want a reactive with fingertip :D - highest score: 188
Brunswick Avalanche / Ebonite Tornado / Tropical Storm / other?
HansTheBoss 3 years ago
I have been bowling with a Roto-Grip Rush for two years- highest series was a 450. I bought a Hammer Black Widow Venom and first series out of the box was a 420!!! So, I am kinda partial to the Hammer Venom, highly aggressive and it creates awesome pin-smashing action! Hope this helps!
Americansoldier7688 3 years ago
i had the tornado, its pretty weak unless u surface it way down to grip the lane. i just got my venom like 2 weeks ago and i rolled 233-237-238 right out of the box. highest score of the year with the tornado was 220 so the venom does wonders
spankydubbs 3 years ago
I prefer vocal analyticals, not music videos.
mortson978 3 years ago
my layout of my BWV im not sure what it is, but it has nowhere near the hook it should have, the HMB is to the left of the thumb, and the two dots(yellow and the small white circle are at the 11 oclock and 7oclock positions on my ring finger(i throw left handed) is this supposed to be an agressive layout or is this tailored for a slight hook?
wingnutters 3 years ago
in my opinion i think the pearl has a snappy more reaction than the venom
Alden229 3 years ago
what are the weights of the balls?
sideshow45 3 years ago
6-16lbs
hgjybrandon2 3 years ago
oh sorry i meant the weihgt of the actual ball being used. i should have been more descriptive.
sideshow45 3 years ago
nice ball...song?
Lzenna 3 years ago
no one knows- queens of the stone age
Redsoxwsc07 3 years ago
its was either this on the track uprising. i bought the uprising. hope i made the right choice. this ball looks tough
gowylde 3 years ago
you made a great choice. the uprising hits lick a mack truck
superfreako8 3 years ago
that's a lot of free advertising for d&j sandwich shop
mediumsteve 3 years ago 9
This thing has a nasty snap and pocket entry.
DCsnowboarder14066 3 years ago 7
Ive got Venom . and it's perfect for my style. I really like it. Now you know (;
sjundeapril 3 years ago
at 3:11 if you move about 2-3 boards right and about 3-4 inches towards the lane on the approach. it will carry those 10 pins. or sometimes its the same thing on moving except u might have to move back towards the bowlers area. it hits pocket but moving back gives the ball more time to roll. and moving up towards the lane will save some of the balls power and turn it into more carry when the ball hits.
XxCGxDAxB3ASTxX 3 years ago
which ball would be better in heavier oil!!like thick oil??roto grip cell or venom??
freshskater757 3 years ago
Get the cell. I had a black widow venom and the curve dies out after about 18 games. Better off buying the cell. Its also newer too.
steveak93 3 years ago 2
in my opinion it depends on the type of line you play. if u throw a larger hook then you would want the cell because it reads the lane earlier. if you play a tighter line then you would want the venom because it will roll down the lane and the snap into the pocket.
XxCGxDAxB3ASTxX 3 years ago
I just got one and it is great. huge backend
littleirv43 3 years ago
i think i'm getting this ball for christmas.
i have every ball in the series and i can honestly say my black widow solid hooks more than the bite for some reason.
any ideas?
rideemerica07 3 years ago
I need someones advice.
I throw my ball extremely fast and I need a ball that can hook. Will this do it?
JacobAndrewCastro 3 years ago
what do u have now?
superfreako8 3 years ago
I have columbia 300. It does not hook at all for my power.
JacobAndrewCastro 3 years ago
The Venom, BWP, and the Bite have an extremely nice reaction i would recomend them. I bowl with a Bite and i love it. I also find this to be the most forgiving ball i own as well
RochambeauEC 3 years ago
dude. i went through the same problem. no joke. if your wanting a ball that will hook with a lot of speed. the only ball that i would find that would do that is the Storm Fired Up. it is a pearlized ball that hooks the most out of any ball ive ever thrown.i put a lot of speed on the ball but i got rid of it though because i got my speed down and i only throw hammer now.
XxCGxDAxB3ASTxX 3 years ago
im a mid to high rev rate bowler... and this ball is an animal to control.. if your a high rev rate bowler i would recomend this only if you throw it hard enough.. my friend has it and whips it down the lane and it still hooks and hes a stroker.. its a beast
PistonsChargers21 3 years ago
on the cheetah ur shot broke down with venom 1... oil moved and u hooked up 2 much
williebowler243 3 years ago
Great ball kid@ Excellent Video!!!
Haryazz 3 years ago
I got this ball a few months ago and it has been great for me ever sence
kbob432 3 years ago
id be scared to throw the ball out as far as u did with the venom #2 on the cheatah. but then again i cant hook it as much
1337ScubaTal 3 years ago
what is the name of the song when he is throwing the ball
super9mario9 3 years ago
the end one is this aint a scene its a arm race
maty2632079 3 years ago
The first one is No one Knows by Queens of the Stone Age.
starter777 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the worst way to play the chettah is how u r playing it .
maty2632079 3 years ago
yea, you should have skooched right a bit
parkerhoda5 3 years ago
how is he supposed to play it?
FSTCHEMIDS 3 years ago
His breakpoint is aroud 5 and he is striking so please tell me what else he is supposed to do?
kadaj1313 3 years ago
you really want to play straight up because straiter is greater
maty2632079 3 years ago
I've got a Pearl and the original Black Widow. The Pearl has very little ball deflection once it gets around the corner and headed to the pocket. I noticed the Venom # 1 has a lot of ball deflection. The # 2 layout is much better but look out for those 9 pins. My Pearl leaves them on solid pocket hits. It blows through the rack.
dbt302 3 years ago
This ball is awesome on shorter pattens. Mainly cheetah and viper.
KenJones300 3 years ago
I like the ball on chameleon :P. It was perfect when i tried it.
krusbar87 3 years ago
loooks just like the bite just a little less hook potential
bigzboland 3 years ago
What kind of reaction Does Venom has
BM2504X 3 years ago
why don't you look at the video and it will show you
FSTCHEMIDS 3 years ago
whos bowling? looks familiar
bowlerwannabes 3 years ago
ball is awesome
towens365 3 years ago
Ya looks good!!! Lots of carry and rather insane backend movement eh! Cross my fingers that it doesn't die out in weeks like the Bite... =X
Xeloque91 3 years ago
getting tomoz hopefully if they come into the shop on time! yey!
fitzy336 3 years ago
wut song is at the beginning???
lovedatgirl 3 years ago
songs are
AFI-Prelude 12/21
Queens Of The Stone Age-No one knows
Fall Out Boy-
This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race
mullinat 3 years ago
Hooks alot! But will it be as great of a ball as the BWS. None of the other BW's have lived up to the solid.
Dpyankeesfan17 3 years ago
Uhmm. . . I got the BWP when it came out. It still hasnt lost its power, idk wtf your talkin about there. -.-
Dwannakno 3 years ago
Would have liked to see it compared to the Bite, I bet they are almost the same ball.
NodTheBowler 3 years ago
yep thats what it looks like
f00tballkid20 3 years ago
another great comparison, the Venom has some raw power, gotta love the almost 7-9 leave
svstar34 3 years ago
very nice video i think i decided wat ball i want. btw which layout did u like better?
olie2832 3 years ago
very good ball !
chiller4everrr 3 years ago