is that negative BAM (0:47) on him just simply because his should and elbow are lifted beyond its bracing angles, or are you making contact with the ulnar nerve or something to "startle" the arm? i cant remember if i've posted or asked this before. forgive me :p
Nice handspeed and very sophisticated reasoning displayed here. Looks alot like kali and wing chun drills.Body manipulation for nueral exploitation? Very freeeakin impressive! Stil should be a swifter way to do that without the whole tap-index-top of the arm tap.What about a right upward parry+right downward tap/check/yank with a simultaneous full powered left to the nerve? Are there other ways to more directly and optimally deflect manipulate expose and strike the punching arm and nerve target?
@ATACXGYM It is a very rudimentary drill sir taught to beginners to facilitate additional instruction, and ultimate technique applications later in the curriculum. It is not a curriculum technique or application persé. It is a snapshot indices of information for the purposes of education culled from our curriculum explicitly for this video. In practice, we do not even do it as depicted, but that version is too subtle to observe the principles in this limited medium. It's an educational tool.
@rchapel Swear to God,Doc...you sound every bit the "doctor" when you elaborate upon the nuances and intricacies of Kenpo.I am constantly impressed with the complex concepts encapsulated within your curriculum yet (for the most part) clearly expressed through physical movement.Very well done sir! Thank you for informing me that what you showed isn't how you actually do it in class.That goes a long way toward relieving my mind.
@ATACXGYM Additionaly sir, it is called NMP or Neuro-Muscular Programming, that is a component of all basics, forms, sets, and explicit applications of SubLevel Kenpo. The purpose is not always easily discernible because its applications and use may not be a part of the immediate lesson, but instead laying a platform for physicality later in the curriculum.
@rchapel I heard of that,or something similar to be honest.I heard it long ago but a decade o so ago a program called SCARS made some waves using a similar concept.
@ATACXGYM My teacher embraced continuing education as a part of his, and my philosophy. Some of our methods are now used by my medical professional students as treatment protocols in their practices. Our approach is educationally broad and truly emphasizes the differences between Martial Arts, and the Martial Science we teach. This may only be accomplished by stepping completely out of the arts world, into real disciplines of science and requires a significant, and very broad advanced education.
@rchapel That's very interesting.Very.Interesting.So you're advocating the practical combat application of nueral manipulative sciences and using drills that refine motor movements for that purpose? Now...do you have any video of guys sparring? Especially against other disciplines? That's be thee most illuminating by far.
@ATACXGYM Conventional sparring counters the process, and promotes bad habits and corrupts synapsis. Functional directed sparring is more purposeful, without corrupting the process and leads to real skills, as opposed to limited applications. Mr. Parker had it right, he just didn't finish expanding upon the concept, which is already used in law enforcement, military, and combat training as he taught me and recognized.
@rchapel Sooo functional directed sparring is more purposeful? How does that get measured? I'd figure that at some point functional directed sparring would be compared head to head with conventional sparring,so a SL-4 guy should be able to reliably outperforming a standard Kenpo,bjj,wrestling,kickboxing,or military guy.Or say a Kenpo boxing wrestling hybrid guy. Did you and your guys ever perform such a test or did you use other edifying methods?
@ATACXGYM We have, all with very positive results. Especially our MMA component in Puerto Rico who test it more of it than anyone. But those are still limited venues, I do not subscribe to.
@rchapel That's really amazing stuff,Doc Chapel! I mean...that stuff would be invaluable to watch and learn from. If you ever get around to letting out videos of you guys sparring non-Kenpo martial artists? Letcha boi know.
@ATACXGYM That would be Juan Mercado our Director, at Puerto Rico MSU - SubLevel Kenpo, which also contains a sizable Wing Chun component. He's "Professormental" on KenpoTalk, and a very well educated man. Conventional sparring is much to limited and its very nature introduces strategies not utilized in the real world of confrontations, both physically, emotionally, and psychologically. The military utilizes similar training, and is why there are fatalities in the training process.
@rchapel Continuing; Fortunately we can raise the bar in physicality to the brink without serious injury in training because of prior knowledge of expectations between students, yet still prove the efficacy of applications. The problem with mixed venues is others moving at street speed and intensity tend to get injured rather quickly. Last year and this, we've had a spike in civilian students getting attacked. All have not only survived but prevailed inflicting serious injury on attackers.
@rchapel COntinuing: and of course our law enforcement officer have the luxury of means testing on a day-to-day basis, also with extreme positive results. Conventional sparring might comprise perhaps 5% of needed skills, and they may be a bit generous.
Dis-association taking structural integrity, reassigning the muscles causing the consciousness to abandon protection in its attempt to maintain structural integrity thus leaving the nervous system open for energy transfer, brilliant!
It is spelled "SubLevel Four Kenpo," or simply SL-4 Kenpo. It is as Mr. Parker taught me. I created the name based on what Mr. Parker would say when he wanted to work on certain things with me. Or as he put it, "The sub-level material." Thus I named it SubLevel Kenpo, not he. I did that to differentiate it from the commercial kenpo that most are familiar with based on "motion." Between he and I, it was just "Kenpo." To avoid confusion you have to make distinctions. It's just the Kenpo I know.
@rchapel hi,.. im from Holland 2nd degree Shaolin Kempo,.. cant really see a difference in the moves only in the m and the n,..you know why this is maybe?
@Artsjurt Sorry t it is not my place to determine what you are, or are not capable of discerning. Everyone based on the their level of skill, experience, and knowledge subjectively interprets what they see based on their own point-of-view. The proof is in the application on the mat, or as I prefer as a cop for thirty plus years, on the street.
@rchapel So then is the Kenpo you were taught what is being taught in the commercial American Kenpo? Can I get the same out of both? Are you saying that your style or version is better?
@muclesmarinara Because of the conceptual, subjective nature of "Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate," (the commercial Kenpo based on motion), I am unable to comment on the validity of the art, as it varies from student to student, school to school, and teacher to teacher. I can tell you that I am an expert at what Mr. Parker taught me, and a larger percentage of my students are Police, Deputies, and Federal Agents who use it regularly. No one has ever reported a deficiency in real world applications.
Sir, i have been studing kenpo for over 25 years. I respect what you are saying but, "sub-level 4" is this your thought or a thought from Parker. I have never heard any thing but, i see the benefit of learning points and targets. Also, i see how energy is manuvered with checking. Again, i appreciate your thoughts can you give me insight what this is.
Double tap with a trap. Whats so unorthodox about this brandomar1? Thanks Grandmaster for putting up these videos. BTW Grandmaster if you would be so kind, what are your thoughts about Kajukenbo?
I remind my students constantly of the knowledge they have that has not come to light yet. The secret to pressure points is posture and body mechanics, not thinking you know where they are.
There are probably a lot of things you can't see. By the way, it's a drill designed to teach certain principles. It's not a fight, anymore than doing a form and you don't understand the movements. Trust me, after 30 years of being a street cop, and 50 years in the arts - it works.
Dr. Chapel! Nice to view these vids as well as others from other Grandmasters. But these really capture my attention. I've been out of the arts for quite some time. I wished I'd kept going.
I am pleased to see that someone is changing the way they do kenpo, rather than trying to expand upon what they were shown as beeing Kenpo. Thank you Mr. Chapel for your insight inot the future for your students.
It appears complicated but it really isn't when taught and given proper information. The students do it all the time in class, and it's really easy to demo in-person.
FMA hubud drill, with nerve and limb destruction applications. It's certainly not garbage. A 3 count movement that can be made into 1 strike that takes out an attacker. Far from trash.
Where is your studio located? I would very much like to come and at least check it out. I'll always be inspired by the fighting arts, no matter how old I get. Something I just can't explain. . .
How can you possibly say this is Garbage? I've trained in Many arts & Kenpo under Master Rose (BKKU) and have also experienced SL4 concepts and can tell you it is not Garbage! maybe when you have an understanding of Kenpo & SL4 you can make a comment, until then i suggest you keep quiet.
great training drill, I would like to learn this system, where is his school located?
liotta75 5 months ago
@liotta75 Sorry sir, that information is not available
rchapel 5 months ago
is that negative BAM (0:47) on him just simply because his should and elbow are lifted beyond its bracing angles, or are you making contact with the ulnar nerve or something to "startle" the arm? i cant remember if i've posted or asked this before. forgive me :p
madeku 6 months ago
@madeku docchapel@gmail.com
rchapel 6 months ago
Nice handspeed and very sophisticated reasoning displayed here. Looks alot like kali and wing chun drills.Body manipulation for nueral exploitation? Very freeeakin impressive! Stil should be a swifter way to do that without the whole tap-index-top of the arm tap.What about a right upward parry+right downward tap/check/yank with a simultaneous full powered left to the nerve? Are there other ways to more directly and optimally deflect manipulate expose and strike the punching arm and nerve target?
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM It is a very rudimentary drill sir taught to beginners to facilitate additional instruction, and ultimate technique applications later in the curriculum. It is not a curriculum technique or application persé. It is a snapshot indices of information for the purposes of education culled from our curriculum explicitly for this video. In practice, we do not even do it as depicted, but that version is too subtle to observe the principles in this limited medium. It's an educational tool.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel Swear to God,Doc...you sound every bit the "doctor" when you elaborate upon the nuances and intricacies of Kenpo.I am constantly impressed with the complex concepts encapsulated within your curriculum yet (for the most part) clearly expressed through physical movement.Very well done sir! Thank you for informing me that what you showed isn't how you actually do it in class.That goes a long way toward relieving my mind.
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM Additionaly sir, it is called NMP or Neuro-Muscular Programming, that is a component of all basics, forms, sets, and explicit applications of SubLevel Kenpo. The purpose is not always easily discernible because its applications and use may not be a part of the immediate lesson, but instead laying a platform for physicality later in the curriculum.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel I heard of that,or something similar to be honest.I heard it long ago but a decade o so ago a program called SCARS made some waves using a similar concept.
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM My teacher embraced continuing education as a part of his, and my philosophy. Some of our methods are now used by my medical professional students as treatment protocols in their practices. Our approach is educationally broad and truly emphasizes the differences between Martial Arts, and the Martial Science we teach. This may only be accomplished by stepping completely out of the arts world, into real disciplines of science and requires a significant, and very broad advanced education.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel That's very interesting.Very.Interesting.So you're advocating the practical combat application of nueral manipulative sciences and using drills that refine motor movements for that purpose? Now...do you have any video of guys sparring? Especially against other disciplines? That's be thee most illuminating by far.
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM Conventional sparring counters the process, and promotes bad habits and corrupts synapsis. Functional directed sparring is more purposeful, without corrupting the process and leads to real skills, as opposed to limited applications. Mr. Parker had it right, he just didn't finish expanding upon the concept, which is already used in law enforcement, military, and combat training as he taught me and recognized.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel Sooo functional directed sparring is more purposeful? How does that get measured? I'd figure that at some point functional directed sparring would be compared head to head with conventional sparring,so a SL-4 guy should be able to reliably outperforming a standard Kenpo,bjj,wrestling,kickboxing,or military guy.Or say a Kenpo boxing wrestling hybrid guy. Did you and your guys ever perform such a test or did you use other edifying methods?
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM We have, all with very positive results. Especially our MMA component in Puerto Rico who test it more of it than anyone. But those are still limited venues, I do not subscribe to.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel That's really amazing stuff,Doc Chapel! I mean...that stuff would be invaluable to watch and learn from. If you ever get around to letting out videos of you guys sparring non-Kenpo martial artists? Letcha boi know.
ATACXGYM 8 months ago
@ATACXGYM That would be Juan Mercado our Director, at Puerto Rico MSU - SubLevel Kenpo, which also contains a sizable Wing Chun component. He's "Professormental" on KenpoTalk, and a very well educated man. Conventional sparring is much to limited and its very nature introduces strategies not utilized in the real world of confrontations, both physically, emotionally, and psychologically. The military utilizes similar training, and is why there are fatalities in the training process.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel Continuing; Fortunately we can raise the bar in physicality to the brink without serious injury in training because of prior knowledge of expectations between students, yet still prove the efficacy of applications. The problem with mixed venues is others moving at street speed and intensity tend to get injured rather quickly. Last year and this, we've had a spike in civilian students getting attacked. All have not only survived but prevailed inflicting serious injury on attackers.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel COntinuing: and of course our law enforcement officer have the luxury of means testing on a day-to-day basis, also with extreme positive results. Conventional sparring might comprise perhaps 5% of needed skills, and they may be a bit generous.
rchapel 8 months ago
Why all the slapping? I like the style but all the video's have a ton of self slapping.
Murph1102 8 months ago
fantastic explanation..
MrByaeger 10 months ago
Good sound concepts masterfully instructed. Ooos sir.
MrCuldee 1 year ago
Ron Chapel rocks!!
Pauljos79 1 year ago
very impressive, when you index underneath do you have to strike a ceartin part or do you just simply put your arm under the arm
18Dmar1 1 year ago
This is one one the best examples & well explained videos I've seen in a long time. this is also a fantastic partner drill. Thank you very much Sir.
1pathseeker 1 year ago
I use this drill as well. It's great to build speed and coordination with some flow. That was a really great step by step break down.
mikereis77 1 year ago
Great Stuff Master Chapel thumbs up.
DTGtaihojutsu 1 year ago
Dis-association taking structural integrity, reassigning the muscles causing the consciousness to abandon protection in its attempt to maintain structural integrity thus leaving the nervous system open for energy transfer, brilliant!
losfoley1 2 years ago
mr chapel i notice this drill looks similar to the fma hubud drill is there any connection ?
Kenpohi 2 years ago
Dr. Ron Chappell is a martial scientist
elegba 2 years ago
It is spelled "SubLevel Four Kenpo," or simply SL-4 Kenpo. It is as Mr. Parker taught me. I created the name based on what Mr. Parker would say when he wanted to work on certain things with me. Or as he put it, "The sub-level material." Thus I named it SubLevel Kenpo, not he. I did that to differentiate it from the commercial kenpo that most are familiar with based on "motion." Between he and I, it was just "Kenpo." To avoid confusion you have to make distinctions. It's just the Kenpo I know.
rchapel 2 years ago
@rchapel hi,.. im from Holland 2nd degree Shaolin Kempo,.. cant really see a difference in the moves only in the m and the n,..you know why this is maybe?
respect and greetings
Artsjurt 1 year ago
@Artsjurt Sorry t it is not my place to determine what you are, or are not capable of discerning. Everyone based on the their level of skill, experience, and knowledge subjectively interprets what they see based on their own point-of-view. The proof is in the application on the mat, or as I prefer as a cop for thirty plus years, on the street.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel So then is the Kenpo you were taught what is being taught in the commercial American Kenpo? Can I get the same out of both? Are you saying that your style or version is better?
muclesmarinara 8 months ago
@muclesmarinara Because of the conceptual, subjective nature of "Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate," (the commercial Kenpo based on motion), I am unable to comment on the validity of the art, as it varies from student to student, school to school, and teacher to teacher. I can tell you that I am an expert at what Mr. Parker taught me, and a larger percentage of my students are Police, Deputies, and Federal Agents who use it regularly. No one has ever reported a deficiency in real world applications.
rchapel 8 months ago
@rchapel Well then, I get out of it what I put into it.
muclesmarinara 8 months ago
@muclesmarinara As do we all sir.
rchapel 8 months ago
Sir, i have been studing kenpo for over 25 years. I respect what you are saying but, "sub-level 4" is this your thought or a thought from Parker. I have never heard any thing but, i see the benefit of learning points and targets. Also, i see how energy is manuvered with checking. Again, i appreciate your thoughts can you give me insight what this is.
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Deloa7Armando 2 years ago
Double tap with a trap. Whats so unorthodox about this brandomar1? Thanks Grandmaster for putting up these videos. BTW Grandmaster if you would be so kind, what are your thoughts about Kajukenbo?
teamkaji 2 years ago
Kajukenbo sir, is just like every other art in that how good it is, depends upon who's doing and teaching.
rchapel 2 years ago
Mr. Chapel, I was just wondering, at what point in your students' training do you start go get into the SL4 pressure point nerve attacks and theory?
kempobrad 3 years ago
From the beginning it is a part of our methodology, but subtle. Students learn without knowing what they are getting.
rchapel 3 years ago
then later on when you explain it, it all seems to click right? very cool.
kempobrad 3 years ago
I remind my students constantly of the knowledge they have that has not come to light yet. The secret to pressure points is posture and body mechanics, not thinking you know where they are.
rchapel 3 years ago
This guy is almost believable lol..
spr2682 3 years ago
Thank you for posting these clips Dr. Chapel, your students are very lucky indeed.
steamboat13 3 years ago
eso es la IKKA?
this is IKKA?
estivaloso 3 years ago
There are probably a lot of things you can't see. By the way, it's a drill designed to teach certain principles. It's not a fight, anymore than doing a form and you don't understand the movements. Trust me, after 30 years of being a street cop, and 50 years in the arts - it works.
rchapel 3 years ago
Dr. Chapel! Nice to view these vids as well as others from other Grandmasters. But these really capture my attention. I've been out of the arts for quite some time. I wished I'd kept going.
woodie62 3 years ago
Thank you sir. It's never too late.
rchapel 3 years ago
dont see how that would work against someone that knows hot to fight that is strong and aggressive(not saying it wouldn't. just don't see it).
chazzi1 3 years ago
Very nice(:!!!!
qachaqi 3 years ago
I am pleased to see that someone is changing the way they do kenpo, rather than trying to expand upon what they were shown as beeing Kenpo. Thank you Mr. Chapel for your insight inot the future for your students.
akumaryukenpo 3 years ago
Thank you sir, but I am not "changing" my Kenpo, I am teaching what, and the way I was taught Kenpo by Mr. Parker.
rchapel 3 years ago
Your skills amaze me Professor Chapel thank you for sharing. 5 stars.
takeninj 3 years ago
NO WAY how in the hell dose that nerve work im impressed
mungrus 3 years ago
It appears complicated but it really isn't when taught and given proper information. The students do it all the time in class, and it's really easy to demo in-person.
rchapel 3 years ago
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk
BELGOROD777 4 years ago
FUCK!!! im always impressed watching these videos!!!!! He is GOOOOOD!!!!!!! ahhhh crap if only I could learn there..........
I'd give 5 stars if i could!!
mrmrmanhuman 4 years ago
garbage... haha i don't think so... i like u to fight this man ... and see what happens...roflmao
kenpo9599 4 years ago
This guy is the shit
milnusthegnome 4 years ago
Awesome concepts. I wish there were more Kenpo Schools in the East Coast. Great work doc.
TheBXSici1ian 4 years ago
that was awesome. mad skillz. you know it when you see that speed man. awesome!
cubworld 4 years ago
Jammin' at the end there! Fast Kenpo!
jamesejudy3 4 years ago
FMA hubud drill, with nerve and limb destruction applications. It's certainly not garbage. A 3 count movement that can be made into 1 strike that takes out an attacker. Far from trash.
wulfyson 4 years ago
Its not FMA. The count is a 5 count drill.
rchapel 4 years ago
Where is your studio located? I would very much like to come and at least check it out. I'll always be inspired by the fighting arts, no matter how old I get. Something I just can't explain. . .
woodie62 3 years ago
The school is located in Southern California sir.
rchapel 3 years ago
garbage
EnterTheBukti 4 years ago
How can you possibly say this is Garbage? I've trained in Many arts & Kenpo under Master Rose (BKKU) and have also experienced SL4 concepts and can tell you it is not Garbage! maybe when you have an understanding of Kenpo & SL4 you can make a comment, until then i suggest you keep quiet.
kenpopaul 4 years ago
That's funny. Cliff doesn't think that it's garbage. & you know Cliff, don't you? heh.
jamesejudy3 4 years ago