@Racsowar Really? Because you killed him obviously. Yes, Alpha 1 gave you the option to bring him back to your side in the last mission, but he is hardly the only secret character they left dead.
Err... no. The official canon is that Ingram was convinced by Ryusei but disappeared after the final battle. Cobray's storyline is the only one which touches on what happened to him after that (Astranagant absorbed his body, Astranagant was severely damaged at some point during that time, etc.)
The Char's Counterattack story came in Alpha 2. Except Amuro survived and Char did not. The team already had enough trouble with the government due to Blue Cosmos, it would be that much harder to not be seen as an enemy if Char was still around and on your team.
Char dies no matter what you do. Though a non-cannon end to Alpha 2 would have Haman surviving and on your team. It is understandable that this game assumed you made the other choice and she and Char joined up instead.
2. The message from Minmie and other people from your time (the events at the end the previous mission knocked the team thousands of years into the future). Their purpose was to boost morale, which they succeeded in doing with the help of the ghosts.
What is there to be confused about? Ingram never betrayed the SRX team and the others of his own will. Now he's encouraging them to fight the true threat.
As for Cobray the two of them have a connection including Cobray's mech largely consisting of Ingram's Astranagant and Ingram spends much of the early game trying to take over Cobray's body before giving up and letting Cobray do what he wants.
Ingram tells the team to beat Keiser Ephes. Ryusei is amazed that he's seeing his former instructor. He had prepared them to beat the guy because he was under Yuuzes control and couldn't do so himself and that only got worse when he lost his body. He also apologizes for the stuff he did (like nearly killing Aya). Aya says it's okay now. Ingram then says he's "leaving the rest to her," which she accepts.
Ingram confirms that he was once the soul the resided in Cobrey (Cobrey never actually sees Ingram's face). Cobrey notes that Ingram doesn't exist in him anymore. Ingram says that's fine, as they aren't each other (despite being clones). He than says goodbye to Ingram, another person of himself.
(note that this is rough translations; I'm probably mistaken on a few points)
Roy never dies in the Alpha canon, despite doing so in Macross, Macross DYRL, AND Robotech. Super Robot Wars does that a lot, although going by this video, less than you'd expect in Alpha 3.
Most of those characters died before Alpha 3. The Gundam characters all died in Alpha 2 (except Lalah who was dead before Alpha 1 even started, killed in the One Year War which was background to the Alpha series). Alpha 2 was also true for the Mazinger and Jeeg professors, Heinel and Richter and Musashi. Ingram died in Alpha 1.
Amuro, like Roy, is one of the main characters that SRW Alpha decided to save. Really, Amuro surviving the events of CCA is one of the LEAST contrived canon changes in SRW, and I can't think of one game where it doesn't happen.
Char usually does too, at least in games where he remains a good guy.
Never happens in SRW Reversal, where the main characters fights with Londo Bell and CCA did occur with Amuro and Char dying.
However, Duminuss comes and something happens with the Time Flow Engine making the main char go back to the past or into another dimension and you meet Amuro from MSG.
Another example would be the lack of CCA in SRW Destiny.
Amuro not dying from CCA has occured less and less in the more recent times.
Well, SRWR, true, but as you said, it gets immediately reversed, and once you go back you eventually stop Char from leaving the AEUG/Londo Bel in the first place.
The other route is more amusing, since it's the Nadesico movie - Duminuss just says lol to that film's deus ex machina ending and starts killing everyone, then thankfully the Time Flow Engine kicks in and you go back and stop the film from ever starting (if only we could go back in time and stop it from being made.)
Thats impossible because he is a principal character in the game..come on its srw everything happen...this ists a good game but i still dont know how to play in this scenario...i
Hey, would someone be willing to do a Fansub/Fandub of this game at the very least (I want to see/play Cobray's arc, Selena's arc, and Kusuha's arc), and more if they feel like it (the Entire Alpha Series, Advance Portable, OGS, and OGG to be precise)? If they do that, would they kindly post a link to a site where we can download everything (the original game converted to ROM, as well as the translation patch)? I ask this of any willing translation group viewing this clip and post. Thanks!!!
Alpha Gaiden has already got a fan translation (you will have look for yourself, I won't link to it) by the same group that did the SNES version of SRW3, and they still working other SNES games and Alpha 1
If a group of people were actually dedicated to subbing this game they would have to playthrough it at least 4 times to sub it 100% and due to the games large amount of text your simply asking too much for normal people with lives and are not getting paid to dedicate years of their life to subbing a game not THAT many people even know about :(
In other words its seriously faster if you just learn Japanese and import it :(
Four isn't dead, and she is on your team. She was a secret character in Alpha 1, when the Zeta plot was covered, and the rest of the series continues as if you saved her.
Trieze is not alive, he died way back in Alpha 1 and is involved in the event. Zechs mentions his name near the end. There are number of characters mentioned that you don't see the dialouge for.
That one song that takes up most of the vid makes me think of Rai's theme, Baran doban's theme, and Brave sword braver soul from soulcalibur2, all smooshed into one big uber-pwnful song!
its hardly a secret. amuro and bright need 60 kills each and since amuro is the best gundam pilot there is, 60 kills is easy. bright may have a problem, but nearly all the ra kailum's weapons are map or all so its easier. of course, if u dont field them...
Wouldn't it just be awesome fighitng side with these guys. Sure in reality the world might no longer exists, but wait......no thats a bad thing where would we live.....Crap......
can someone pls translate the whole dialogue??
pigifi 9 months ago
Kinda gets to me when Lin Min May, Lacus Clyne, and Nekki Basara promised to do a joint concert... what would the song be? :D
it'll be epic if each singer could sing together on REAL stage! XD wwwww
RX93NuGundam 11 months ago
@RX93NuGundam I know this is kinda late but I think you should still know this:
The song that Minmay, Lacus and Basara sang together was no other than the famous Nyan cat song.
mingzl81065 2 months ago
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JAP"S GAME SUCKS
z26837129 1 year ago
@z26837129 Then why the hell are here? If you don't like it,just get lost.
FlameOfSpirt 2 weeks ago
Either it's just me or Skill would've been more fitting. An epic ending to an epic game nonetheless. LET 'EM HAVE IT, GUYS!
wingedswordslayer 1 year ago
God I wish I knew what they were saying.
Gatman720 1 year ago
Why Ingram is Dead?
Racsowar 1 year ago
@Racsowar Really? Because you killed him obviously. Yes, Alpha 1 gave you the option to bring him back to your side in the last mission, but he is hardly the only secret character they left dead.
suchiuomizu 1 year ago
@suchiuomizu Sorry for the question... But never played Alpha, im only playing Original Generation 1, in the GBA, (Im in Stage 33)
Racsowar 1 year ago
@suchiuomizu
Err... no. The official canon is that Ingram was convinced by Ryusei but disappeared after the final battle. Cobray's storyline is the only one which touches on what happened to him after that (Astranagant absorbed his body, Astranagant was severely damaged at some point during that time, etc.)
countrybluegrass 1 year ago
manly tears were shed
it's been more than 2 years since I finished @3, but this scene will remain forever in my heart
doraemonpawnz 1 year ago
why shinn is not in??
pigifi 1 year ago
@pigifi Shinn Asuka didn't even exist when this game was made.
ShuHibiki 1 year ago
I hope for the day on that I can understand all the dialogue in a scene that seems to be the most epic thing ever witnessed
buntado6 1 year ago
i see dead people!
kingofbraves 1 year ago
Anybody ever endeavoured to translate this entire scene?
RitaChan00 2 years ago
I certainly hope so...
Camtech076 2 years ago
Irui is hot.
KingLazerman 2 years ago
5:11 did irui just open her eyes?
pigifi 2 years ago 3
@pigifi
Yes, yes she did.
Zenjin000 2 years ago
ONE short! oh noes! well you can always use replay data and read FAQs!
SantomPh 2 years ago
so char is dead. wtf....
BennyNars 2 years ago
The Char's Counterattack story came in Alpha 2. Except Amuro survived and Char did not. The team already had enough trouble with the government due to Blue Cosmos, it would be that much harder to not be seen as an enemy if Char was still around and on your team.
Char dies no matter what you do. Though a non-cannon end to Alpha 2 would have Haman surviving and on your team. It is understandable that this game assumed you made the other choice and she and Char joined up instead.
suchiuomizu 2 years ago
i wonder why some of my friend hate srw for some season
keroro1122 2 years ago
Oh wow that must be frustrating.
faizalsotilleo 2 years ago 2
why did a group of excelions come just to be destroyed?
Samuraiedge2 2 years ago
1. They were unmanned
2. The message from Minmie and other people from your time (the events at the end the previous mission knocked the team thousands of years into the future). Their purpose was to boost morale, which they succeeded in doing with the help of the ghosts.
suchiuomizu 2 years ago
they are drones, with huge space amplifiers to boost Minmay's sound level to 11 (million)
SantomPh 2 years ago
LAWL
I love how they made Char and Quattro into two different spirits!
IngramPlisken 2 years ago 5
Camille will always see Char as Quattro, and always differently than Amuro, who has much more to hate Char for.
Camille would see Char as more of his teacher, even after he learned who Quattro actually was.
SantomPh 2 years ago 3
there is one thing that I'm confused about....what di ingram said when he talked to SRX team and cobray?
GahaldMills 2 years ago
What is there to be confused about? Ingram never betrayed the SRX team and the others of his own will. Now he's encouraging them to fight the true threat.
As for Cobray the two of them have a connection including Cobray's mech largely consisting of Ingram's Astranagant and Ingram spends much of the early game trying to take over Cobray's body before giving up and letting Cobray do what he wants.
suchiuomizu 2 years ago
ahh..I C...i don't realy understand japanese...thans for the info... :)
GahaldMills 2 years ago
Ingram tells the team to beat Keiser Ephes. Ryusei is amazed that he's seeing his former instructor. He had prepared them to beat the guy because he was under Yuuzes control and couldn't do so himself and that only got worse when he lost his body. He also apologizes for the stuff he did (like nearly killing Aya). Aya says it's okay now. Ingram then says he's "leaving the rest to her," which she accepts.
Cashino0 2 years ago
Ingram confirms that he was once the soul the resided in Cobrey (Cobrey never actually sees Ingram's face). Cobrey notes that Ingram doesn't exist in him anymore. Ingram says that's fine, as they aren't each other (despite being clones). He than says goodbye to Ingram, another person of himself.
(note that this is rough translations; I'm probably mistaken on a few points)
Cashino0 2 years ago
I C...thanks....
GahaldMills 2 years ago
I laughed when Char appeared to Amuro as himself, then immediately after went as Quattro to Camille.
Changing outfits and throwing on shades must be very easy in the afterlife.
JukeboxHero12345 2 years ago 31
When dead people starts to talking to the heroes, expect the bad guy to get f*cked up
blackordus 2 years ago 20
@blackordus amen
firem78910 1 year ago
Stupid question, but isn't Roy Fokker DEAD? Shouldn't he appear to Rick Hunter as well?
Phoenix8492 2 years ago
I think this is only for units you had sortied.
FurnaxIkki 2 years ago
Roy never dies in the Alpha canon, despite doing so in Macross, Macross DYRL, AND Robotech. Super Robot Wars does that a lot, although going by this video, less than you'd expect in Alpha 3.
nerdorama009 2 years ago
Most of those characters died before Alpha 3. The Gundam characters all died in Alpha 2 (except Lalah who was dead before Alpha 1 even started, killed in the One Year War which was background to the Alpha series). Alpha 2 was also true for the Mazinger and Jeeg professors, Heinel and Richter and Musashi. Ingram died in Alpha 1.
suchiuomizu 2 years ago
even amuro is supposed to be dead; should you follow the timeline
Aznavour0079 2 years ago
Amuro, like Roy, is one of the main characters that SRW Alpha decided to save. Really, Amuro surviving the events of CCA is one of the LEAST contrived canon changes in SRW, and I can't think of one game where it doesn't happen.
Char usually does too, at least in games where he remains a good guy.
nerdorama009 2 years ago
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Never happens in SRW Reversal, where the main characters fights with Londo Bell and CCA did occur with Amuro and Char dying.
However, Duminuss comes and something happens with the Time Flow Engine making the main char go back to the past or into another dimension and you meet Amuro from MSG.
Another example would be the lack of CCA in SRW Destiny.
Amuro not dying from CCA has occured less and less in the more recent times.
IngramPlisken 2 years ago
Well, SRWR, true, but as you said, it gets immediately reversed, and once you go back you eventually stop Char from leaving the AEUG/Londo Bel in the first place.
The other route is more amusing, since it's the Nadesico movie - Duminuss just says lol to that film's deus ex machina ending and starts killing everyone, then thankfully the Time Flow Engine kicks in and you go back and stop the film from ever starting (if only we could go back in time and stop it from being made.)
nerdorama009 2 years ago
Thats impossible because he is a principal character in the game..come on its srw everything happen...this ists a good game but i still dont know how to play in this scenario...i
brickbardot 2 years ago
it's a fucking game. but yes he's dead., but it's cool to put dead people in the game. heheeheh
StriderHiryu1200 2 years ago
LOL AT
Amuro - "Char..."
then..
Quattro XD
xX20AxFreedomx 2 years ago 2
funny that the boss is just listening
naruto80986577 3 years ago
Hey, would someone be willing to do a Fansub/Fandub of this game at the very least (I want to see/play Cobray's arc, Selena's arc, and Kusuha's arc), and more if they feel like it (the Entire Alpha Series, Advance Portable, OGS, and OGG to be precise)? If they do that, would they kindly post a link to a site where we can download everything (the original game converted to ROM, as well as the translation patch)? I ask this of any willing translation group viewing this clip and post. Thanks!!!
setsunafseieiGN0000 3 years ago
Alpha Gaiden has already got a fan translation (you will have look for yourself, I won't link to it) by the same group that did the SNES version of SRW3, and they still working other SNES games and Alpha 1
suchiuomizu 3 years ago
Could you at least give me a hint as to where to search for it? Google Search Keywords, or something like that?
setsunafseieiGN0000 3 years ago
"Alpha gaiden translation" should give you the patch as the first result, I bought the game though so I never needed to bother looking for the ISO.
suchiuomizu 3 years ago
setsunafseieiGN0000
If a group of people were actually dedicated to subbing this game they would have to playthrough it at least 4 times to sub it 100% and due to the games large amount of text your simply asking too much for normal people with lives and are not getting paid to dedicate years of their life to subbing a game not THAT many people even know about :(
In other words its seriously faster if you just learn Japanese and import it :(
PrismMage 2 years ago
They don't have to replay through it. They export the text file, replace the japanese tekst with the english and then put it back in.
The problem is getting it translated and then getting the text to appear correctly. It took Alpha Gaiden 3 years to get translated.
kaioraven 2 years ago
Four seems like a better spectre to cheer Kamille on than Char.
blind51de 3 years ago
Four isn't dead, and she is on your team. She was a secret character in Alpha 1, when the Zeta plot was covered, and the rest of the series continues as if you saved her.
suchiuomizu 3 years ago
This scene is more epic if you can understand what they're saying.
No matter how many times I've seen this, it always gets my blood burning.
Cashino0 3 years ago 3
Translation would be nice
Gamer2002 3 years ago
Oh My God! Epic As Hell!
Leo Shishou and his wife from Gaogaigar
Char from the Gundam Series...
And a whole bunch of dead characters appearing to give them hope! At the sound of GONG!!! DAMN!!! EPIC EPIC EPIC
371312 3 years ago 2
Not to mention the LEGENDARY MUSASHI, FROM SHIN GETTER!!!
371312 3 years ago 7
We all know Zeta Gundam runs on dead people... so is it allowed to run on all of them? Sounds like it might be a tad overpowered that way XD
KingMeglion 3 years ago 3
Where are Trieze and Coach?
Armetius 3 years ago
Treize is alive and Coach is too shy to appear (lol)
27volt 3 years ago
I think that the ships where they were got destroyed before he had the shot.
371312 3 years ago
Trieze is not alive, he died way back in Alpha 1 and is involved in the event. Zechs mentions his name near the end. There are number of characters mentioned that you don't see the dialouge for.
suchiuomizu 3 years ago
sorry i was actually thinking of Zechs there, I keep mixing those two up....
27volt 3 years ago
gaint robot at 2:01 ?
also whats he saying?
lighth4zard 3 years ago
Koteshuin
and hes surprised to see the professor again.
27volt 3 years ago
what did kaworu say? at around 3:35-37.
Aznavour0079 3 years ago
I agree. And Cobray should be making a grand appearance in the OG universe soon.
180223 3 years ago
he already did.
27volt 3 years ago
I don't think having your name as ??? and your face covered with black is considered grand.
180223 3 years ago
Merging his mech with the SRX is not considred Grand?
27volt 3 years ago
I'm talking about the OG games, not the anime.
180223 3 years ago
but how will i know if i get 57 skill points?
jemilicee 3 years ago
hey how can you get the good ending? can you tell it to me?
jemilicee 3 years ago
Get 57 or more skill points.
SunsetKlD 3 years ago
@SunsetKlD Also reach the final stage with a turn count of 420 or less.
MechagirlSachiko 1 year ago
@SunsetKlD
that means alot of playthroughs then
TheChoujinVirus 1 year ago
That one song that takes up most of the vid makes me think of Rai's theme, Baran doban's theme, and Brave sword braver soul from soulcalibur2, all smooshed into one big uber-pwnful song!
TrombeX2 3 years ago
wait, y isnt amuro in the hi-nu? u get it for free and it comes upgraded with nu's upgrades...is it just for sentimentality reasons>
icezera 3 years ago
...No you don't, Hi-Nu is a secret. He may not have met the requirements. Or he may have put someone else in it/chosen not to use it.
suchiuomizu 3 years ago
its hardly a secret. amuro and bright need 60 kills each and since amuro is the best gundam pilot there is, 60 kills is easy. bright may have a problem, but nearly all the ra kailum's weapons are map or all so its easier. of course, if u dont field them...
icezera 3 years ago
you just gave the exact reason for why he doesnt have hi-nu
tigera6 3 years ago
3:46. Best of the dead characters... MUSASHIIIIIIII!
rei336 3 years ago
HOLY CRAP, Ephes stopped Basaras song! 0_0
27volt 3 years ago
Yes. Ephes can override Fire Bomber, but not Trombe!
FurnaxIkki 3 years ago 3
Trombe overrides God!?..........awesome
27volt 3 years ago 3
There is *nothing* that truly overrides Trombe. You can only drown it out with louder music.
But Elzam needs only to destroy yours speakers, and then it is again time for TROMBE!
FurnaxIkki 3 years ago
well there IS one thing........ANOTHER Trombe!
27volt 3 years ago
Wouldn't it just be awesome fighitng side with these guys. Sure in reality the world might no longer exists, but wait......no thats a bad thing where would we live.....Crap......
StressedoutGamer 3 years ago
Good thing music CAN be heard in space in the future apparently.
HalfDemonThomas 3 years ago 4
Yes, but only with sound booster(Macross 7)
tyaty 3 years ago
keisar ephes... you stupid goon...
most of the spirits do not side with you anymore
feel the power of "GONG"....
BDTXIII 3 years ago
From what I can understand, other dead spirits appeared but were not shown. Examples were Natarle, Nicol and Kinryu.
180223 3 years ago
Hey Sunset, any idea what the special OG thing is about after completing the game with all main characters?
180223 3 years ago
you get to play a special stage with all the Original present
tigera6 3 years ago
I am so happy I subsrcibed to your vids.
180223 3 years ago
I think the guy with the monocle is Hiroshi's (Jeeg) father.
The guy with wings is Richter, enemy of Kazuya (Daimos) and brother of Erika, Kazuya's love interest.
The guy with the horns is Hainel, the first enemy of the Voltes V team and brother of 3 of them.
SunsetKlD 3 years ago
Created for the game or do they come from an anime?
BrienBoru 3 years ago
They are all from anime. The only original there is Ingram (blue-haired guy).
SunsetKlD 3 years ago
Oh, and not the guy with the monocle, the guy with the glasses.
BrienBoru 3 years ago
Basara Nekki, the main character of Macross 7.
SunsetKlD 3 years ago
LOTS OF QUESTIONS TIME.
Who is the guy with the brown hair and glasses?
And who are the two guys with wings and horns?
BrienBoru 3 years ago