Many a time 'practising scientists' (in bio/medical-science in particular?) tense to tell you how much is known & are quick to tell his/her theories/opinions about this & that while leaving behind the other half of the story - the uncertainties. Astonished people then tense to swallow them all until they are falsified or harm being done. Learning that there are so much to be found out always gives one a sense of liberation & would help people maintain a healthy skepticism towards all claims.
@miceech indeed it is the job of a philosopher (or of philosophy as a discipline)... to introduce people to the frontiers of the universe where we are confronted by mystery, where answers and knowledge lie still yet to be acquired or possessed by humankind!
I'm sorry but some one has to set the agenda for scientific research - Who knows what would happen if we left that job to the scientists! They might turn into philosophers! o.O *shudders at that thought*!!
wow the scale of those problems seems impossible- and she sums them up well - I think there has to be a fundamental change (paradigm shift- excuse me it's so cliche- lol) because we can't solve half of those problems with the current mechanisms/explanations/methodologies for sure- This is one of the best lectures I've seen by her-
im saying ,when we see a cup, we have thoughts about it without , and we have dreams about it within, our thoughts link to our sences, sight taste touch, our dreams have an equal and oposit power cherubim seraphim i offer as describing words only ? we then internalise or reconcile or reason the oposits which creates percieveable memory
not to internalise them is to loose reconciliation or the polarisation of oposits the cherabim or seraphin or should i say alpha and beta waves are damaged threw non use atrophy
does a dream live within a thought and a thought live within a dream is this the nature of conciousness its self , that the whole or part of the brain makes sence of it, ie sees the arising within and without
from the internal to the external , the thought that thought of dreaming and the dream that dreampt of thinking is the one ness of conciousness the all seeing I there must be a part or whole of the brain that understands the within and without that reconciles oposits
I think the cliche paradigm shift we will see will have more to do with how we think of the "external world" than it will with how we think of consciousness. If the brain constructs a world, how is it that we scientific brains are smart enough to realize what that external world really is? Or maybe we don't assume we can know what it is, but then how do we know the brain is just constructing a model of reality? It seems like the ground is quickly slipping from beneath our feet.
I like how she is moving toward the conclusion that neurons are essentially organizationally closed. They don't usually stand in for things already in the world; rather, they construct internally coherent relationships among themselves. Maybe all that "spontaneous activity" she is talking about has to do with principles of self-organization in the brain and body, which cannot be understood reductionistically or representationally.
Long way to go yet...
1simonmatthews 7 months ago
Many a time 'practising scientists' (in bio/medical-science in particular?) tense to tell you how much is known & are quick to tell his/her theories/opinions about this & that while leaving behind the other half of the story - the uncertainties. Astonished people then tense to swallow them all until they are falsified or harm being done. Learning that there are so much to be found out always gives one a sense of liberation & would help people maintain a healthy skepticism towards all claims.
litsyt 9 months ago
Hope you got up to this part DF!!
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Mthooz 1 year ago
@Mthooz Now I do! Thanks... a very interesting series.
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DragonflyGirl09 1 year ago
As a neuroscientist, I'm sorry but I don't think this lecture said much of anything but then I guess that is the job of a philosopher
miceech 2 years ago
@miceech indeed it is the job of a philosopher (or of philosophy as a discipline)... to introduce people to the frontiers of the universe where we are confronted by mystery, where answers and knowledge lie still yet to be acquired or possessed by humankind!
I'm sorry but some one has to set the agenda for scientific research - Who knows what would happen if we left that job to the scientists! They might turn into philosophers! o.O *shudders at that thought*!!
Mthooz 1 year ago
This really helped me understand a lot about myself and basically how I am able to know anything. Thanks Lenny.
Enuvrack 2 years ago
wow the scale of those problems seems impossible- and she sums them up well - I think there has to be a fundamental change (paradigm shift- excuse me it's so cliche- lol) because we can't solve half of those problems with the current mechanisms/explanations/methodologies for sure- This is one of the best lectures I've seen by her-
robotaholic 3 years ago
"Real magic, the magic that can be done, is not real magic." - Dan Dennett
Rybot9000 3 years ago
which is the i am
cardellacole1 4 years ago
im saying ,when we see a cup, we have thoughts about it without , and we have dreams about it within, our thoughts link to our sences, sight taste touch, our dreams have an equal and oposit power cherubim seraphim i offer as describing words only ? we then internalise or reconcile or reason the oposits which creates percieveable memory
cardellacole1 4 years ago
not to internalise it is to loose memory...mat
cardellacole1 4 years ago
not to internalise them is to loose reconciliation or the polarisation of oposits the cherabim or seraphin or should i say alpha and beta waves are damaged threw non use atrophy
cardellacole1 4 years ago
or whole of course
cardellacole1 4 years ago
the part that reconciles thoughts from dreams
cardellacole1 4 years ago
we internalise it to create memory
cardellacole1 4 years ago
we habitualy internalise it to escape some sort of solipsism
cardellacole1 4 years ago
im obviously saying that conciousness and un conciousness exist without and within the brain
cardellacole1 4 years ago
does a dream live within a thought and a thought live within a dream is this the nature of conciousness its self , that the whole or part of the brain makes sence of it, ie sees the arising within and without
cardellacole1 4 years ago
from the internal to the external , the thought that thought of dreaming and the dream that dreampt of thinking is the one ness of conciousness the all seeing I there must be a part or whole of the brain that understands the within and without that reconciles oposits
cardellacole1 4 years ago
I think the cliche paradigm shift we will see will have more to do with how we think of the "external world" than it will with how we think of consciousness. If the brain constructs a world, how is it that we scientific brains are smart enough to realize what that external world really is? Or maybe we don't assume we can know what it is, but then how do we know the brain is just constructing a model of reality? It seems like the ground is quickly slipping from beneath our feet.
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
I like how she is moving toward the conclusion that neurons are essentially organizationally closed. They don't usually stand in for things already in the world; rather, they construct internally coherent relationships among themselves. Maybe all that "spontaneous activity" she is talking about has to do with principles of self-organization in the brain and body, which cannot be understood reductionistically or representationally.
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago