Its a damn shame the amount of liberal long haired socialists there are in california....they are seriously holding back the states potential to be successful...instead high taxation and biggest unions in america
What a joke, voted in by the pension whores, there answer is more taxes!!!!! They cant manage there money in the highest taxed state in the nation and there answer is WE NEED MORE!!! and only the schools will suffer if we dont get it???? really???
Im sure the people who voted for him are hiding there heads.
What a real winner. Now who are the brite-lites who voted this guy in?!?! Here's some words of wisdom for ya... a person who bullshits ya ALL THE WAY to the finish line and then confesses, is NOT as you nuts continue to say 'an honest person who's got *** to speak the truth' ...rather he's the brown noser who's right now trying to steal your job... A REAL Person will be honest straight from the get go. You are not thinking straight.
Other people from other states have commented on how could the people of California reelect brown, boxer?
To many socialists, progressives and liberals, to many who live on those who pay the taxes, and to many illegals. This is caused by to many progressives (demorcats in sheeps clothing)
California is one of the highest tax gluttous states in the Union!
@MULSIPHER ''Alexandre Dumas pere wrote over 400 historical novels expsoing world tyranny(Roman Catholic Empire). Alexandre Dumas pere was born near paris in 1802 and 'coincidentally' in 1902 The Society of Gesu(Jesuits) were expelled from France for the 3rd and alst time. The Society of Jesu(Jesuits) have been expelled from 83 countries and their pope is ARAMIS AND HE IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE COUNT OF MONTE CHRISTO(GENERAL OF THE JESUITS). ''
@MULSIPHER "The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them."
~ Albert Einstein, letter to Sigmund Freud, 30 July 1932
@MULSIPHER 'It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country(USA) are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religous liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe.' Marquis de LaFayette
@MULSIPHER A cover is always necessary. In concealment lies a great part of our strength. Hence we must always hide ourselves under the name of another society. --Die neusten ararbeiten des Spartacus and Philo in dem Illuminaten-Orden, 1794, p: 165
This is taken from page 491 of Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. 'Coincidentally' Umberto Eco has written the introduction to the newly printed version of Alexandre's The Count of Monte Christo.
@MULSIPHER This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
He is the rare, almost only, politician that is honest. -His point was merely that pols love to make all kinds of promises, but that at the end of the day they must work with the situation once they are elected. Most don't, and then just spin about 'keeping promises.' his career has proven good results.
Sacramento is a mess right now absolute mess seriously need new people in not working right now to say the least D.C. is a mess this state is worse off and need new people in there
The only honest politician. And, you fools rag on him. Morons. What are conservitave values? Are they starting wars for personal profit? Are they cheeting on your spose and having a baby out of wedlock? That is not what they say, but that is what they do. And Conservitaves HATE everything and HATE everyone.
@ogpeckerwood This guys a Milk Toast Sissie... a patsy... a idiot... he had no competition .. Meg Whitman ... and that looser Arno Swats -nigger ... U know that one that fucked his Mexican maid in his bed... and got her PG , the same time his wife was PG... what a little dick looser. Next yr its gonna be Jose... from Mec-E-Ko
But Arnold did... take as much from the state as he could, pay extremely high wages to his friends appointed to his offices and pretend to govern. Promise the world and... but, that's right, that's what all republicans have done for the past 36 years as Governors in California.... screw the state...
@spamvigilante It was NOT 100 million of her own cash. It was Ebay money which is linked to the fraudulent estate of Honey R. Siegal deceased. Jerry Brown as Attorney General was hand delivered the information about the fraud linked to Bank of America and the real estate division Equitable Deed Company.
Both are just crooks.
Nancy Pelosi may be linked to the real estate frauds from this with Senator Diane Feinstein.
Talk about manipulating the demise of the United States of America.
@HoneySiegalSurvivor I just had to come back to read your foolishness. Jesus Christ on a Ritz cracker... you might want to take off that tinfoil beanie.
@spamvigilante Whitman lost because Californ ia is a welfare state filled with government dependent idiots and corrupt unions. We all know this, including you!
@EscapeNewJersey Right, it had nothing to do with her hiring and maintaining employment of an illegal immigrant for nine years. When that story broke, she dropped another ten points.
Try paying attention to fact and reality for a change.
@spamvigilante Bullshit, why would a woman worth hundreds of millions of dollars want to knowingly hire an illegal alien. Use your brain. Whitman was paying her $25 per hour for years!!! Sounds like Whitman treated that woman more than fair and was not a racist because she hired her for years at a great wage!! The problem rests with the liberal California and federal governments that refuse to enforce the immigration laws laws on the books!! This was a cheap smear campaign by Brown - you idiots!
@spamvigilante LOL Change!!! Like Obama, what a load of crap. Brown said once that he didn't have to lie anymore after leaving the governors office 28 years ago. He knows people like you are too uneducated and stupid to know his incompetent and corrupt history.
@EscapeNewJersey Your lunatic rants are not increasing your level of credibility. The question isn't whether or not she knew (she did). If you cross state lines with automatic weapons in the trunk of your car, is your claim of defense that you didn't know it was illegal to do so?
Have a nice day. You have proven my every point. I need not respond to your idiocy any longer.
@spamvigilante You are an idiot!! Why would Whitman pay an illegal alien $25 per hour when she could have paid her close to minimum wage?!?! Why did the US government allow her to enter the USA in the first place?!?! Why doesn't the USA government enforce the immigration laws?!?! It is illegal to accuse a person of being illegal because the US government does not like citizens to put pressure them and expose their corruption!! US government wants Mexican slaves dependent on them!!
@EscapeNewJersey You are exceedingly unlearned. Quite the accomplishment.
I only returned to this discussion because someone posted a comment supporting my position. The owner of this clip censored him. No surprise. Censorship is the second favorite tool used by you Conservative Einsteins. The first? Disinformation.
Don't bother with a reply, you fool. Your idiocy has been sufficiently documented.
@spamvigilante LOL, censored my ass. Face it, you voted for a three time loser because you know nothing about Jerry Brown's history!! As for you personal attack on my intelligence, I have a degree in Finance and Computer Science and I paid cash for my home - what do you have big shot?!?!
@EscapeNewJersey Wake up and pay attention, you fool. I voted in California once. I only lived there two years early in this century. You assume too much. Typical Cuntservative fool.
Yeah, you're rich and powerful. I bet you tell people you're slim also as long as you're hiding behind that keyboard, you fat tub of goo.
Typical liar Republican asshole. You have a degree? Aside from the 98.6 of them that you hold? Bullshit. Tell lies to someone who might believe your idiocy. Stop assuming.
@spamvigilante LOL, so you have hardly lived in California and you are uneducated and you think you that has somehow qualified to judge Jerry Browns qualifications?!?!? You are an idiot!!
@EscapeNewJersey Wow, you are a stupid one. Where did I make a comment about Jerry Brown? Can you cite a single one? Of course not. I didn't judge him at all. Not a single comment. But you are making ad hominem attacks on me that I am not qualified to make such comments.
Go away and hide, little boy. You can crawl back into your hole now and hide your tail between your legs. You have been outed as the fool that you are. Adios, you fat tub of goo. You have been PWNED!
@EscapeNewJersey Another ad hominem. How lame. Juvenile. Puerile. I bet you're proud of yourself, asswipe. Aren't you?
You cannot bear to admit that you were wrong and I never said a thing in comments here supporting Jerry Brown. You were WRONG, asswipe. Be a man, admit it.
@spamvigilante I feel good, yep I do!! Ofcourse you don't want to admit your Jerry Brown support. Such a position is a dirty little secret for you where you revel your character hiding behind YouTube!!
@EscapeNewJersey Sorry Dumbo. I challenged you to cite a single comment of mine ANYWHERE regarding my supposed support for Jerry Brown. You failed. Simply because your assertion is completely unfounded and untrue.
Typical GOP fool. Caught in your lies and you lie some more.
@spamvigilante I'm right here punk. Are you still twitching. Jerry Brown is flat out admitting he is a lying politician and idiots like you still vote for him because you are like an abused child clinging to his abusing parent!! Are you that addicted to government handouts. Can't you run your own life like a man?!?!
@spamvigilante LOL, I would shrink from and deny if I voted for Brown, but ofcourse, I'm will never be stupid like you and would never vote for a failure liberal like Jerry Brown!!
@spamvigilante Hey idiot, wether you voted for Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown is irrelevant, the point is that you support Jerry Brown and liberals like him!! Therefore, you are an immoral, weak, little man idiot!!
@spamvigilante My ability to profile you is not dependent was what you say or don't say. One of my powers is to identify and shame liberals like you!!
@spamvigilante I have the greater power to detect lies and double talk and that is why I vote for the correct candidate. My wife and kids are laughing at you! Hurry up or you will be late stocking the selves at the 99 cent store!!
@EscapeNewJersey Obviously, I have gotten under your skin. You now make multiple replies to my every post. Too bad that your responses have brought the conversation this low.
Have a nice day. And a wonderful life.
You're still a miserable liar. And a foolish Conservative. Forgive me, that's being redundant.
@spamvigilante LOL - Well I win! I think you need to lookup redundant in a dictionary! Then checkout an American history book and learn about the failed history of liberals in America!!
@EscapeNewJersey Typical foolish Republican moron (three times redundant here). Claim victory even when clearly proven the loser brain-dead ignoramus that you have been in this thread.
What sense of victory do you have? On some moral ground? Perhaps something akin to having posted fact or reality? None observed.
Go get your rubber wife out for a lube. Then get yourself stuffed anally with a slotted spoon. All just your speed.
Winner? Nope. Just another GOP dittohead. Adios, last word Larry.
@spamvigilante You know, pathetically grasping at the last word won't suddenly make your flimsy arguments correct. Now go back to your bong and gay porn.
@spamvigilante This guys a Milk Toast Sissie... a patsy... a idiot... he had no competition .. Meg Whitman ... and that looser Arno Swats -nigger ... U know that one that fucked his Mexican maid in his bed... and got her PG , the same time his wife was PG... what a little dick looser. Next yr its gonna be Jose... from Mec-E-Ko
He tried to be honest. Listen to his insiteful and frank presidential campaign speech in 1980 called "The Shape of Things to Come". It lays out the same problems we face today. But nobody would listen because it's premise was America's decline after we pissed away the advantages WWII had given us just 35 years before. Regan ran on a complete denial of those facts. Now we face the SAME problems, multiplied by that denial.
What is this? A Ju Jitsu approach? You am what you am. Just be yourself. There's nothing like it. You don't like "I Will Survive?" That's a good song. Tofu burgers? Ugh. Rob Reiner!? Thanks for the tip. Yeah. He'd probably be all right. I think we need a California Tea Party. Not in the usual tea bag mold. But the Disgruntled Party. I'm disgruntled about Iraq and a military all over the world and corporate domination. There is no Tea Party in California, or anywhere - yet. Wanna start one?
Don't trip The Democrats will always win. They campaign like walking into a class room and say to everyone who got F's, D's "It's not fair to u that the hard working got A's Vote for me and I'll pull u all up to C's." A proven strategy What would the campaign plateform be of an honest politian? "Vote for me I'll give u less?" It's a despicable way to come to power: liberals acting like Santa and it's unsustainabilty is a mathmatical certainty. While Repubs. have yet to deliver on spending reduct
@mperhaps listen up joker. here's a list of Republican's running on tax cuts. Regan, Bush Jr., Bob Dole, John McCain. The only Republican not on that list is "read my lips" Bush the elder. Add all republicans running on Newt's "contract with America", all republicans running in this last election on Boehner's “Pledge to America”. Republicans have been buying votes this way for decades.
@jackhammer111 It's been awhile so I'm not sure what comment I made that you're responding to but as a
simple Barry Goldwater conservative I find no shortage of Republicans RUNNING on lower taxes and conservative values hell around election time both side sound conservative. Sadly for Republicans, the one key issue of their platform (less spending) they have never deliver on. If we pay on results, not promises then it's the tax & spend liberals Kennedy and Clinton who are the conservatives.
Hey - did you watch the video on the Jewish exploitation of white children at my channel? YouTube took it down but someone else re-uploaded. Add it to your favorites- we have to fight the real censors. They force multiracial "diversity" on us even though all of the empirical and forensic evidence categorically shows that it's unhealthy and regressive. White people need to wake up. Race is not a "social construct", it is a biological reality.
Perfect example! KurohigeStudios check the comment below this one by
keepanemptymind. This is how a liberal processes info: All Gov's & Presidents lie but Brown admitted it so he's adorable. That's the basis of his support! Obama's black! That's so fashionable! And Calif IS LOUSY WITH THESE CRYSTAL GAZING GED HOPEFULS. There was an Op.Ed. piece in a Argentinian newspaper that said it well: "The U.S. problem isn't Obama, it's a citizenry stupid enough to elect Obama." We are so proper fucked.
That's an old interview. Look at his hair. At least Brown was honest about having lied. Did Bush lie? Yes. Did Clinton lie? Yes. Did Bush lie? Yes. Did Reagan lie? Yes. And so on. Brown admitted it. None of the others did. He's the best of a bad lot. Which isn't saying much.
@david52875 California was an economic power under Reagan, but also under Pat Brown before him, and Jerry Brown and others after him. California still is an economic power. That's because of California's location and climate. People are still coming here, even a few illegals. It took a hit when Bush closed many military bases, and it now sends more to Washington than it receives. Its financial problems are partly the result of Prop 13, which should be modified. Brown encouraged Silicon Valley.
@keepaopenmind yes but, as beautiful as it is, it is still the 49th least friendly state to small business owners. I think Meg Whitman would be the least of two evils.
@david52875 Well who says it's 49th? The Chamber of Commerce? I'm a small businessman, and I like it fine. I'd rather live and do business in California than anywhere else. I voted for Brown, and I'm glad he won, but with some misgivings. He didn't support Prop 19 which I favored. But no other major candidate did either, except the Republican who ran against Pelosi in San Francisco. We'll see. One of the big problems is state salaries, pensions, etc. Arnold didn't have much luck there.
@keepaopenmind Here are some statistics on your question regarding Calif
business hospitality and why we're ranked 49th. There is actually people employed that do nothing but coach and assist the enormous caravans of businesses on their way of Calif. Google: "1990-2010 How Many Jobs and Businesses Have Left Calif." The list is staggering.
@mperhaps What statistics? Lots of businesses have been created and failed. I asked who said we're 49th? The Chamber of Commerce? As I said, California took a big hit when some military bases were closed during that time. I do business in California, and I like it here. Being "friendly to business" is not most important to me. China is friendly to business, but I wouldn't want to live there. I like a place that is healthy, sunny, liberal, and where I can earn a living. You need to get a life.
@keepaopenmind A point? Why do my rants always seem to lack one of those?
OK 1.) Me not having a life. That doesn't make you Nostradamus. That was a lucky guess. 2.) I'm pretty sure my point was we can't afford to have open borders. [now go ahead throw the race card] 3.) If we're going to reduce unemployment we might try business incentives. Your idea of handing out union
jobs wouldn't be so unrealistic if we could entice a few businesses to come
@mperhaps I look forward to your replies, but I don't get them. I never said let's have open borders. Business incentives? I'm tired of hearing we must lure business here so we have jobs. Eliminate labor and environmental laws. Anything. Let the corporations have their way. Just as long as they give us jobs. What a wage-slave mentality! Start your own job. Stop looking to others to save you or give you a job. Find a need and fill it. Employ yourself. That's the American way. Be free as you can.
@keepaopenmind UNCLE already for christsakes UNCLE. It pains me to say it but your last submission is unshakable. You understand the costs on all sides and your positions reveal thoughtful priorities. I am noticeably unspooled by my capitulation. Does this make me a liberal? What would B expected of me? I cannot stand the Grateful Dead. I assume the bicycle pants & tofu burgers R
mandatory. I guess Rob Reiner is our leader; I can't name one decent calif vineyard and I have to sell my Vette. Nuts
What is this? A Ju Jitsu approach? You am what you am. Just be yourself. There's nothing like it. You don't like "Touch of Gray?" That's a good song. Tofu burgers? Ugh. Rob Reiner!? Thanks for the tip. Yeah. He'd probably be all right. I think we need a California Tea Party. Not in the usual tea bag mold. But the Disgruntled Party. I'm disgruntled about Iraq and a military all over the world and corporate domination. There is no Tea Party in California, or anywhere - yet. Wanna start one?
@keepaopenmind Laugh it up pal, but your paying for my therapy this month. I feel like I'm running the wrong way down the field on a punt return. As for show-
ing up to a Tea Party, what with tie die t-shirts & save the whale pins? No ya I don't see a problem here. Them's ma kin w/ their eyes glazed over w/ fanaticism. Just don't say anything about John Wayne's The Alamo not being a documentary They like to fight for their Constitution but if you scare'em real good they just hand it to you.
@mperhaps All right. Forget I mentioned it. It'd make a good movie plot is all. The Tea Party movement's not going anywhere anyway. Like the Reform Party. If tax rates go back up to where they used to be when times were good, the anti-taxers won't have so much money to throw around. I'd rather see a People's Party without all the left-wing nonsense anyway. To become a party on the ballot, you have to have a certain number of signatures. You're an interesting writer. Been nice. Bye-bye.
@keepaopenmind The Republicans have always been the worst at what they claim to be most concerned with: Deficit spending. How the Repub's ever stuck the name "Tax & Spend Liberal" on Democrats I will never know but I suspect the marketing boys from Phillip Morris had something to do with it. You do well at resisting left/right mentality using an omnidirectional approach that I don't run into often enough. You hinted around self-propriety, may I ask what business your in?
@mperhaps Now you're talking plain English I can understand. Left/right is not the main axis to me. That's just economic. Authoritarian/libertarian, concentrated/decentralized power is my main axis. I definitely side with T. Jefferson in believing in spreading the power.
Right now, I'm self-employed fixing computers. I enjoy that more than anything else. But I've been other things, among them teacher, lawyer, politician, and tennis pro.
@keepaopenmind Tuscany Hills Wrought Iron Gate & Fence Lake Elsinore Ca
sole proprietor, no employees I have trust issues Before that electric awning instal in Palm Desert Started 5.5 yrs ago after 1 of R 2.5K home Association meetings dwn graded from Jerry Springer 2 overt projectile gossiping re: homeowners demanding the Assoc pay 4 rusted shot out fence repair. Assoc said no so I stepped up. I Graduated 86' U.C.I. B.A. Econ Reagan was in office
@mperhaps Well, the climate's nice there, at least. I lived in San Diego a couple winters. Liked that. Except for along the south coast, I prefer northern CA. Don't know about Ivan or Michael, but I think you should try and live your dream.
@xaviqaz I was being facetious. But what's your point? D'you want to start harping about Mexicans taking all our jobs or welfare away or something? I don't care how many illegals are in Europe. It's cheap labor. That's what business loves. That's what makes an area "friendly to business." And if we knew who was hiring all those "illegals," we might be shocked. But we never hear about big ranchers getting punished for hiring illegals. Why is that? Somebody must be hiring the illegals.
@keepaopenmind Dear keepanemptymind, have u seen those TV Ads w/ Jay Leno, Gov Arnold and Betty White standing w/ the waves lapping at the shore behind. Saying: "Dude it's so ausome here. Ca.is a way cool state. U should totally relocate yer family & Company out here" They run the ads all night, u know why? Cuz it's not true. If it was true, why would u need the ad? Liberal legisltors
R at war w/ private Bus.How can we burden R schools by dumping 1/2 mil. illiterates mex child that have paid 0
@mperhaps Dear empty head. I don't watch tv anymore. It's so 20th century. But you're absolutely correct. It's terrible in here California. It was actually cold this morning. Brr. Down in the 50's! Fortunately, the sun's shining, as usual. All I can say to you is, "Stay out of California, and if you're already here, leave." We're better off without you.
@mperhaps Miss the point? Again? What point is that? That you' don't like Liberals or Mexicans? Liberals are trying to make us all poor? And Mexicans don't work or pay taxes and are bringing down R schools? Sorry, Charlie. I've heard your point before. I just don't agree with it. I'd rather look on the bright side and be thankful for all my blessings rather than be scared and angry. Stop watching Fox News Blues and get a life.
@keepaopenmind Our whole system is based on immigrants. WE NEED THE
MEXICANS But come on, sign the guest book on your way in can't ya? Go threw
legal channels. And you really don't have any sympathy for the burden we put on
our schools.? Sure they're contributing once they're here but that doesn't help a
principle with 100's of illiterate teens he must create an entirely separate branch for. It's expensive: to schools, to hospitals,to jails And they hate the country they dont want 2 b Americans
@mperhaps Then they'll want to join the unions and be paid a fair wage. Come on yourself. Illegals are cheaper than legals. Our system is based on cheap labor. Yes. I have sympathy for the schools and especially teachers. What's your plan, anyway? I think everybody should speak English who lives here. No bilingual signs, etc. I have no problem with that. But it sounds like you just don't like Mexicans and don't want them here. How do you know Mexicans hate the country? All of them?
@keepaopenmind That might have been a teeny tadpole of an exaggeration on my part; a method I use to emphasize poorly made points. English only is a substantial concession on your part. An idea once implemented would ignite sufficient opposition to bolster my opinion of anti-Americanism. I think General Motors has shown quite well what strong unions do to a company's competitive edge when they have to compete with 3rd world labor. We'll all be unemployed union members if we can't compete.
@mperhaps I'll agree, your point was poorly made. I still have no idea what your plan is. I thought it had something to do with schools and Mexicans not speaking English. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you want. It looks like you don't like unions, either. There's a reason unions developed, you know. If you don't want to belong to a union, pick your jobs better. Or better yet, be self-employed. You haven't thought things through very well. No offense.
The fact that this did not convince Californians to not vote for Jerry Brown, whether or not they supported Meg Whitman, is just a perfect example of how stupid liberals are. We had him in the 70's, and we are still paying this price for that, and here these idiots go voting him in again. Time to move out of Ca....
Offer inexpensive 4 year degrees at Comm Colleges That is an incredibly good idea, paid w/ what? We'd still have a teensy tad pool of a problem with kids grad. from High School that can't read or write. It is unfathomable what we ask of our schools. We burdened every school with an additional 8 or 900 Mexican sixteen year olds that can't read or write and we say "make sure they're ready
for college by their senior year". There's no money for such a daunting task.
Sorry, but I can't continue this. You're an independent probably because you like to consider that you think outside the box. However your beliefs clearly belong to the democratic side because you say things that sound good without considering all the consequences. If that bill had passed you would have seen consumers hit the worst. Electricity prices would have soared, as if they aren't already going to. You think you're hurting the big bad companies but shit rolls down hill.
Saying "for a while" is simply a longer method of saying "awhile". Therefore, my grammar is still correct, if tedious. I think you should be very careful about criticizing grammar when you forgot to capitalize "Another" in the second second sentence of this crap post I just responded to. Don't use ad hominem attacks like you did in one of your posts against me. In Socratic terms, it is much more proper to attack the arguments instead. Try to be more intelligent like KStudios.
What Jerry Brown is clearly saying, if you catch the part about Bush and Clinton not having a plan, is that no politician truly has a plan when they come into office. It's no secret that politicians have no plan when they enter office. They have to formulate plans every step of the way. On account of how muddled American Politics currently is, it's not surprising that there is no real plan when one doesn't know every single variable and operator etc. in the equation.
On top of that, the plans the politicians come up with on the fly and how well they work out determine a politician's track record. Jerry Brown managed to uphold the Californian school systems despite the daunting hurdles prop 13 put in place for him. He simply did his job to the best of his ability and he did it well. If he simply let 13 take its course, his time as governor would have been shunned and the taxpayers would feel guilty for killing the school systems.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Hey guy, interpret it how you please. I understand plain english and the guy is a liar. I understand exactly what he is making a point of, but again, he is admitting to being a liar to the people to minipulate his position as govenor.
It's called playing the political game. All politicians, whether they be former businessmen or career politicians have to lie at some point. All that matters is if their lying succeeded in helping their constituents in the long run. Brown's lying about a plan beforehand but later formulating one earned California a $5 billion surplus and later mitigated prop 13's damage, while Bush's lying about Iraqi WMDs got us into a whole mess of drama more trouble than what it was worth.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Sorry to inform you that you are wrong. The fact is that Brown, when he left as Govenor in 1983, left deukmejian with a 5 billion dollar debt in his lap. Im not sure what fantasy land you come from but time to wake up.
That debt was due to Jerry Brown mitigating the revenue damages caused by prop 13. He was simply doing his job trying to keep California's infrastructure up despite the hurdles of that prop. Ever since that proposition was voted in, our state dealt with revenue problems. The reason he was voted in is because people from then remember that he actually tried as governor and did his best to advance the interest of this state. Prop 13 created a huge revenue problem for the state.
@7h3br1ckb4lls No politicians like Jerry Brown caused cali debt. Prop 13 is for the people. And obviously was passed and stood with a huge majority of the vote. You obviously believe in socialism. And again: How do you consider a debt a surplus?
I never said a debt was a surplus. I said that debt was due to Brown doing his best to lessen the detrimental effects of prop 13. In the end, prop 13 was an extreme and rash decision from the voters when the property tax system could've been simply reformed to be less damaging to homeowners. Also, considering the amount of used infrastructure California has, it is no surprise we have so many high taxes. If you don't like it, go live in Alaska.
@7h3br1ckb4lls One of the problems I think we are also having as a state is that the Democrats have exploited taxes so much that whenever they come up on any ballot people vote no. Thanks (d).
Also, It's not the exploitation of taxes by the government that are giving us problems. It's the fact that the real estate industry appraisers overpriced housing here 5 years ago. It is also because because high tech companies are shipping our jobs overseas. The fact that you conservatives shot down a bill that would heavily tax companies for outsourcing labor gives me great amusement. That bill would've given companies a huge incentive to hire over here more.
@7h3br1ckb4lls You mean Obama is shipping our companies over seas? Like Hummer, Which not only did he want to ship over seas he didnt sell. And layed off thousands if not millions. And moving to Alaska would allow (D) with obscured visions of reality, like yourself, run this state in the ground. So be thankful that there are still people that research before they vote and dont just watch and believe msnbc.
@7h3br1ckb4lls And you did state a debt was a surplus when you said "Brown made a 5 billion dollar surplus" When in fact it was a 5 billion dollar debt.
@caseyheichberger And I bet you never stopped to think that maybe property value going up so high was a stunt to get more property tax. Which is based on a apraised value.
@caseyheichberger Anyway, back to the fact in hand, Jerry Brown is a liar and a failer to the people of California and he was still elected as Govenor.
No, Prop 13 limited property tax revenues for the government. 1% Property taxes will never be close to profitable for the gov. Those appraisals were more moves to assist the elite bankers cashing in on the massive interest of $8000+ a month home loans the people living on credit couldn't afford but took on anyway. Just like the times before the great depression, our crisis is once again due to the private sector and common Americans like you abusing the credit system.
Clearly you couldn't detect the sarcasm in the last sentence. I wasn't implying that you specifically had a bad credit score(although you may). That was a simple harsh phrase against people who abuse the credit system in general and then complain about about why our economy is completely trashed like they had nothing to do with it.
Also, how did you mistake "waste" for "waist"? Clearly that's a case of bad context. Like every slogan screamer from both polar sides of the American political spectrum, you're always trying to come up with funny, new expressions to sway clueless voters to your side. Btw, I'm an American independent.
@7h3br1ckb4lls The democrats knew the anti-outsourcing bill would fail before they even brought it up for vote. It was just a political move to make the republicans look bad. They brought it up at the last minute and looking at the bill from an economic standpoint it wouldn't save a single job and doesn't give companies an incentive to "insource" jobs. It would raise prices which hurts consumers, encourage american companies to sell foreign subsidiaries, and continue to lower the dollar value.
No, we'll just raise tariffs on imported manufactured goods to the point where it is much more profitable to have factories manufacturing the goods inside our country. That's how Honda and Toyota got around the fat tariffs we slapped on their cars. They simply opened multiple assembly plants within the country and negotiated deals with parts manufacturers within the country.
In order to solve the high tech career outsourcing crisis, we'll simply have to allow our massive community college system here to award 4 year degrees. That would make higher education much less expensive and would create a massive, concentrated pool of highly skilled workers that employers cannot ignore. Inexpensive education is what allowed the silicon valley industries to flourish. We need inexpensive education again in order for this country to prosper into the future.
What bill was that you speak of? Of course the first thing that pops to mind is
that the bill would make the company uncompetitive. But if it was nation wide it might work. I'd have research the economic affects more. Don't other countries have disincentives to their companies that want to import? Do I really give a shit if France wants to keep buying from China? What happened to that bill?
@mperhaps It's called the Creating American Jobs and End Offshoring Act. If you read my earlier post the bill wouldn't have accomplished either of those tasks. It was a bad idea and the democrats simply used it as a political ploy to make republicans look bad right before the midterm election.
@KurohigeStudios I can't believe I even considered that type of legislation for a
minute. End Off Shoring Act should be filed with ab32: Bills designed to bring
about change by increasing hardship and suffering. Unfortunately there is nothing in the provisions of capitalism to discourage the use of .50 cents/day Chinese labor. On the contrary a capitalist, like myself, would be logic bound to exploit it. Until labor cost equalize from our reduced standard of living. Welcome 2 3rd world America
@mperhaps Exactly, if there's nothing from stopping you of course you're going to do it, it's a good business decision. It's the same concept as receiving welfare, most of the people on it don't really need it and could find a way to get by, but why not take it if it's available to you?
@KurohigeStudios What a terrifying thought 2 Democrats: Welfare recipients getting by without assistance. No worries; Brown sleeps like a baby. Every member of those unions he keeps in his pocket pay 925.00 in dues/ yr, $450.00 goes neg. ads 2 win the minds of the sub-100's (IQ) Joseph Gobbles was a pussy in comparison. What would the campaign platform be of an honest politician? Vote 4 me I'll give u less? The true American has been barking about unsustainabilty 4 years. Only time will tell
Whitman turned Google into a multi-billion dollar success along with employing approx. 30x the people it started with. Your right she is a buisness woman. Jerry Brown is a crook. and openly admits that he lies to the people, but thats not enough, just like obama you liberals think these politicians are gonna turn it around and help.
Don't forget he pushed for the unions to include government employees and he has his eye on removing prop 13. We need your tax dollars we're not paying enough.
This looks like old footage, plus the guy has even less hair than today. Also, everyone seems to forget this guy's track record as former governor in his first two terms where he was considered more of a economically conservative governor than Reagan was before him. His fairly conservative policies in the past assisted California in acquiring a 5 billion dollar budget surplus for a while. Keep your butthurt to yourselves Whitman lovers. Jerry Brown knows what he's doing, so let the man work.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Jerry Brown knows what he's doing? He just admitted in this interview that he had no idea what he was doing. Brown had his head in the clouds during his entire governorship and he just let the politicians tell him what to do, which is exactly what happened to Schwarzenegger. The vote was very close, half of us wanted to start along the right path like the rest of the country and the other half wanted to keep walking down the same road of failure.
hahahahahah enjoy your death Californians
TriforcePlayer2 3 weeks ago
Its a damn shame the amount of liberal long haired socialists there are in california....they are seriously holding back the states potential to be successful...instead high taxation and biggest unions in america
InfernalXpression 3 weeks ago
What a joke, voted in by the pension whores, there answer is more taxes!!!!! They cant manage there money in the highest taxed state in the nation and there answer is WE NEED MORE!!! and only the schools will suffer if we dont get it???? really???
Im sure the people who voted for him are hiding there heads.
hondane333 1 month ago
I did not vote for him, I tried.
rackopschief 1 month ago
He wouldn't be voted in anywhere on the east coast
1amsummerstar 2 months ago
What a real winner. Now who are the brite-lites who voted this guy in?!?! Here's some words of wisdom for ya... a person who bullshits ya ALL THE WAY to the finish line and then confesses, is NOT as you nuts continue to say 'an honest person who's got *** to speak the truth' ...rather he's the brown noser who's right now trying to steal your job... A REAL Person will be honest straight from the get go. You are not thinking straight.
1amsummerstar 2 months ago
Other people from other states have commented on how could the people of California reelect brown, boxer?
To many socialists, progressives and liberals, to many who live on those who pay the taxes, and to many illegals. This is caused by to many progressives (demorcats in sheeps clothing)
California is one of the highest tax gluttous states in the Union!
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@MULSIPHER ''Alexandre Dumas pere wrote over 400 historical novels expsoing world tyranny(Roman Catholic Empire). Alexandre Dumas pere was born near paris in 1802 and 'coincidentally' in 1902 The Society of Gesu(Jesuits) were expelled from France for the 3rd and alst time. The Society of Jesu(Jesuits) have been expelled from 83 countries and their pope is ARAMIS AND HE IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE COUNT OF MONTE CHRISTO(GENERAL OF THE JESUITS). ''
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@MULSIPHER "The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them."
~ Albert Einstein, letter to Sigmund Freud, 30 July 1932
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@MULSIPHER 'It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country(USA) are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religous liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe.' Marquis de LaFayette
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@MULSIPHER A cover is always necessary. In concealment lies a great part of our strength. Hence we must always hide ourselves under the name of another society. --Die neusten ararbeiten des Spartacus and Philo in dem Illuminaten-Orden, 1794, p: 165
This is taken from page 491 of Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. 'Coincidentally' Umberto Eco has written the introduction to the newly printed version of Alexandre's The Count of Monte Christo.
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@MULSIPHER This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
uriahheep108 3 months ago
@MULSIPHER
Even so,
California pays more in federal taxes than it receives in federal spending!
asphyxiafeeling 2 months ago
@asphyxiafeeling well then, why did they keep asking and borrowing more money from the federal government?
1amsummerstar 2 months ago
Who's the bigger threat? Schwarze-nigger or Jerry "Brown"?
wyecee 3 months ago
He is the rare, almost only, politician that is honest. -His point was merely that pols love to make all kinds of promises, but that at the end of the day they must work with the situation once they are elected. Most don't, and then just spin about 'keeping promises.' his career has proven good results.
clarityAwareness 3 months ago
They said "Send in the clowns" and Jerry Brown showed up.
Muzzy337 4 months ago
Holy Shit!
SuperBazoomba 4 months ago
Sacramento is a mess right now absolute mess seriously need new people in not working right now to say the least D.C. is a mess this state is worse off and need new people in there
rhersh2011 4 months ago
brown hates American citizens,he is a traitor.
1tamtom 4 months ago
wow he finally tells the truth
Taxifornia is Done
canyonrafters 5 months ago
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please watch the new video about how important open carry is.
The video is called "open carry your gun california please veto bill AB 144 victims vs. Raged killer watch!"
gunitup234 5 months ago
The only honest politician. And, you fools rag on him. Morons. What are conservitave values? Are they starting wars for personal profit? Are they cheeting on your spose and having a baby out of wedlock? That is not what they say, but that is what they do. And Conservitaves HATE everything and HATE everyone.
ogpeckerwood 6 months ago
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@ogpeckerwood This guys a Milk Toast Sissie... a patsy... a idiot... he had no competition .. Meg Whitman ... and that looser Arno Swats -nigger ... U know that one that fucked his Mexican maid in his bed... and got her PG , the same time his wife was PG... what a little dick looser. Next yr its gonna be Jose... from Mec-E-Ko
onstageagain 4 months ago
Based on Jerry Brown's personality I think (I hope...) he was just being a smart ass in this discussion.
Thycid 11 months ago
But Arnold did... take as much from the state as he could, pay extremely high wages to his friends appointed to his offices and pretend to govern. Promise the world and... but, that's right, that's what all republicans have done for the past 36 years as Governors in California.... screw the state...
Pkr 1 year ago
Hey lardass: watch?v=BOyebcrVWb4
spamvigilante 1 year ago
good job everybody who got this guy back in office.
seydelstudio 1 year ago
Fuck jerry brown!
weedheader714420 1 year ago
Oh he has a plan for California, let illegals aliens in and fund unions!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
first time honest
enpaprobertvagyok 1 year ago
Laaaammmme!
So why did Meg lose to this guy? She injected more than $100 million of her own cash into the election.
Typical GOP douchebag, you are.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante It was NOT 100 million of her own cash. It was Ebay money which is linked to the fraudulent estate of Honey R. Siegal deceased. Jerry Brown as Attorney General was hand delivered the information about the fraud linked to Bank of America and the real estate division Equitable Deed Company.
Both are just crooks.
Nancy Pelosi may be linked to the real estate frauds from this with Senator Diane Feinstein.
Talk about manipulating the demise of the United States of America.
HRSiegal
HoneySiegalSurvivor 1 year ago
@HoneySiegalSurvivor You truly are delusional. Have a nice crazed life.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@HoneySiegalSurvivor I just had to come back to read your foolishness. Jesus Christ on a Ritz cracker... you might want to take off that tinfoil beanie.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Whitman lost because Californ ia is a welfare state filled with government dependent idiots and corrupt unions. We all know this, including you!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Right, it had nothing to do with her hiring and maintaining employment of an illegal immigrant for nine years. When that story broke, she dropped another ten points.
Try paying attention to fact and reality for a change.
You've been PWNED!
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Bullshit, why would a woman worth hundreds of millions of dollars want to knowingly hire an illegal alien. Use your brain. Whitman was paying her $25 per hour for years!!! Sounds like Whitman treated that woman more than fair and was not a racist because she hired her for years at a great wage!! The problem rests with the liberal California and federal governments that refuse to enforce the immigration laws laws on the books!! This was a cheap smear campaign by Brown - you idiots!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL Change!!! Like Obama, what a load of crap. Brown said once that he didn't have to lie anymore after leaving the governors office 28 years ago. He knows people like you are too uneducated and stupid to know his incompetent and corrupt history.
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Your lunatic rants are not increasing your level of credibility. The question isn't whether or not she knew (she did). If you cross state lines with automatic weapons in the trunk of your car, is your claim of defense that you didn't know it was illegal to do so?
Have a nice day. You have proven my every point. I need not respond to your idiocy any longer.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante You are an idiot!! Why would Whitman pay an illegal alien $25 per hour when she could have paid her close to minimum wage?!?! Why did the US government allow her to enter the USA in the first place?!?! Why doesn't the USA government enforce the immigration laws?!?! It is illegal to accuse a person of being illegal because the US government does not like citizens to put pressure them and expose their corruption!! US government wants Mexican slaves dependent on them!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey You are exceedingly unlearned. Quite the accomplishment.
I only returned to this discussion because someone posted a comment supporting my position. The owner of this clip censored him. No surprise. Censorship is the second favorite tool used by you Conservative Einsteins. The first? Disinformation.
Don't bother with a reply, you fool. Your idiocy has been sufficiently documented.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL, censored my ass. Face it, you voted for a three time loser because you know nothing about Jerry Brown's history!! As for you personal attack on my intelligence, I have a degree in Finance and Computer Science and I paid cash for my home - what do you have big shot?!?!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Wake up and pay attention, you fool. I voted in California once. I only lived there two years early in this century. You assume too much. Typical Cuntservative fool.
Yeah, you're rich and powerful. I bet you tell people you're slim also as long as you're hiding behind that keyboard, you fat tub of goo.
Typical liar Republican asshole. You have a degree? Aside from the 98.6 of them that you hold? Bullshit. Tell lies to someone who might believe your idiocy. Stop assuming.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL, so you have hardly lived in California and you are uneducated and you think you that has somehow qualified to judge Jerry Browns qualifications?!?!? You are an idiot!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Wow, you are a stupid one. Where did I make a comment about Jerry Brown? Can you cite a single one? Of course not. I didn't judge him at all. Not a single comment. But you are making ad hominem attacks on me that I am not qualified to make such comments.
Go away and hide, little boy. You can crawl back into your hole now and hide your tail between your legs. You have been outed as the fool that you are. Adios, you fat tub of goo. You have been PWNED!
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Wow thats impressive, I didn't think you where capable of upwrapping your mouth from Jerry Browns cock long enough to breathe.
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Another ad hominem. How lame. Juvenile. Puerile. I bet you're proud of yourself, asswipe. Aren't you?
You cannot bear to admit that you were wrong and I never said a thing in comments here supporting Jerry Brown. You were WRONG, asswipe. Be a man, admit it.
Typical CUNTservative, you are. Grow up.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante I feel good, yep I do!! Ofcourse you don't want to admit your Jerry Brown support. Such a position is a dirty little secret for you where you revel your character hiding behind YouTube!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Sorry Dumbo. I challenged you to cite a single comment of mine ANYWHERE regarding my supposed support for Jerry Brown. You failed. Simply because your assertion is completely unfounded and untrue.
Typical GOP fool. Caught in your lies and you lie some more.
If you only had a brain, scarecrow.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey I notice you are running away from the argument the instant you realize that you are getting beaten. Like a rented mule.
Wow. Typical GOP tactics. Run, little fool. Run away.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante I'm right here punk. Are you still twitching. Jerry Brown is flat out admitting he is a lying politician and idiots like you still vote for him because you are like an abused child clinging to his abusing parent!! Are you that addicted to government handouts. Can't you run your own life like a man?!?!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey You are thick, aren't you? When did I suggest that I voted for him? When did I state that I supported Jerry Brown?
Dumbass. You cannot cite a single instance of either. You are a typical Conservative fool. You just assume.
Wake up, you dimwitted GOP shill.
So long as you keep posting inaccuracies, you will continue to be laughed at.
It must suck to be you.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL, I would shrink from and deny if I voted for Brown, but ofcourse, I'm will never be stupid like you and would never vote for a failure liberal like Jerry Brown!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Be a man spamvigilante!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Dumbo, I was a resident of CA for two years. Never once did Brown run while I was there.
I am a man. Why are you unable to admit that you are wrong in classifying me as a Brown supporter.
Again, CITE A SINGLE INSTANCE where I indicated support of him.
Liar fool Republicans. The lot of you suck.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Hey idiot, wether you voted for Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown is irrelevant, the point is that you support Jerry Brown and liberals like him!! Therefore, you are an immoral, weak, little man idiot!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Sorry DUMBO, you cannot cite a single instance where I have supported Brown. Not in comments here or anywhere else.
PWNED! Again.
It must totally suck to be you.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante My ability to profile you is not dependent was what you say or don't say. One of my powers is to identify and shame liberals like you!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Powers? You don't have the power to distinguish between fact and fiction. And yet you claim some magnificent ability?
You are delusional. Again, it must suck to be you.
Go back to your trailer park. The Starbucks is about to shut down. Another lonely night without Internet access or companionship for you.
Dimwit, I'm still waiting for you to back up a SINGLE ONE of your asinine assertions. You cannot, can you?
spamvigilante 1 year ago
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@spamvigilante LOL, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Let me know when your period is over.
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@spamvigilante I have the greater power to detect lies and double talk and that is why I vote for the correct candidate. My wife and kids are laughing at you! Hurry up or you will be late stocking the selves at the 99 cent store!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey You are delusional. Wife and kids? Is that what you call the blowup doll and the rag you use to clean her up with?
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL Really, how many Mormon and BYU grads do you know that are not married with kids?!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@spamvigilante Well spamvigilante, you always have your cat to keep you company!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Obviously, I have gotten under your skin. You now make multiple replies to my every post. Too bad that your responses have brought the conversation this low.
Have a nice day. And a wonderful life.
You're still a miserable liar. And a foolish Conservative. Forgive me, that's being redundant.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL - Well I win! I think you need to lookup redundant in a dictionary! Then checkout an American history book and learn about the failed history of liberals in America!!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Typical foolish Republican moron (three times redundant here). Claim victory even when clearly proven the loser brain-dead ignoramus that you have been in this thread.
What sense of victory do you have? On some moral ground? Perhaps something akin to having posted fact or reality? None observed.
Go get your rubber wife out for a lube. Then get yourself stuffed anally with a slotted spoon. All just your speed.
Winner? Nope. Just another GOP dittohead. Adios, last word Larry.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante LOL, I guess I got under your skin!! I will allow you the last word since you are so pathetic.
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
@EscapeNewJersey Wow, that was original. Can you exhibit pride in yourself? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you.
Pathetic just beat you silly. Again.
It must suck to be you.
spamvigilante 1 year ago
@spamvigilante You know, pathetically grasping at the last word won't suddenly make your flimsy arguments correct. Now go back to your bong and gay porn.
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
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@spamvigilante This guys a Milk Toast Sissie... a patsy... a idiot... he had no competition .. Meg Whitman ... and that looser Arno Swats -nigger ... U know that one that fucked his Mexican maid in his bed... and got her PG , the same time his wife was PG... what a little dick looser. Next yr its gonna be Jose... from Mec-E-Ko
onstageagain 4 months ago
@spamvigilante Run away little idoit!
EscapeNewJersey 1 year ago
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Kingkev1155 1 year ago
He tried to be honest. Listen to his insiteful and frank presidential campaign speech in 1980 called "The Shape of Things to Come". It lays out the same problems we face today. But nobody would listen because it's premise was America's decline after we pissed away the advantages WWII had given us just 35 years before. Regan ran on a complete denial of those facts. Now we face the SAME problems, multiplied by that denial.
jackhammer111 1 year ago
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mperhaps 1 year ago
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@hslafkjkladhjsfklasj Hslafkjkladhjsfklasj ? Is that slovic? I went to school with a Fred Hslafkjkladhjsfklasj from Rubido.
You know Fred?
mperhaps 1 year ago
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mperhaps 1 year ago
What is this? A Ju Jitsu approach? You am what you am. Just be yourself. There's nothing like it. You don't like "I Will Survive?" That's a good song. Tofu burgers? Ugh. Rob Reiner!? Thanks for the tip. Yeah. He'd probably be all right. I think we need a California Tea Party. Not in the usual tea bag mold. But the Disgruntled Party. I'm disgruntled about Iraq and a military all over the world and corporate domination. There is no Tea Party in California, or anywhere - yet. Wanna start one?
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
Don't trip The Democrats will always win. They campaign like walking into a class room and say to everyone who got F's, D's "It's not fair to u that the hard working got A's Vote for me and I'll pull u all up to C's." A proven strategy What would the campaign plateform be of an honest politian? "Vote for me I'll give u less?" It's a despicable way to come to power: liberals acting like Santa and it's unsustainabilty is a mathmatical certainty. While Repubs. have yet to deliver on spending reduct
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps listen up joker. here's a list of Republican's running on tax cuts. Regan, Bush Jr., Bob Dole, John McCain. The only Republican not on that list is "read my lips" Bush the elder. Add all republicans running on Newt's "contract with America", all republicans running in this last election on Boehner's “Pledge to America”. Republicans have been buying votes this way for decades.
jackhammer111 1 year ago
@jackhammer111 It's been awhile so I'm not sure what comment I made that you're responding to but as a
simple Barry Goldwater conservative I find no shortage of Republicans RUNNING on lower taxes and conservative values hell around election time both side sound conservative. Sadly for Republicans, the one key issue of their platform (less spending) they have never deliver on. If we pay on results, not promises then it's the tax & spend liberals Kennedy and Clinton who are the conservatives.
mperhaps 1 year ago
Hey - did you watch the video on the Jewish exploitation of white children at my channel? YouTube took it down but someone else re-uploaded. Add it to your favorites- we have to fight the real censors. They force multiracial "diversity" on us even though all of the empirical and forensic evidence categorically shows that it's unhealthy and regressive. White people need to wake up. Race is not a "social construct", it is a biological reality.
Gravelandart 1 year ago
he should at least lie about it...in this society of paranoia and ignorance, false hope is what keeps us going and prevents us from going crazy.
wingdamn 1 year ago
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Perfect example! KurohigeStudios check the comment below this one by
keepanemptymind. This is how a liberal processes info: All Gov's & Presidents lie but Brown admitted it so he's adorable. That's the basis of his support! Obama's black! That's so fashionable! And Calif IS LOUSY WITH THESE CRYSTAL GAZING GED HOPEFULS. There was an Op.Ed. piece in a Argentinian newspaper that said it well: "The U.S. problem isn't Obama, it's a citizenry stupid enough to elect Obama." We are so proper fucked.
mperhaps 1 year ago
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mperhaps 1 year ago
That's an old interview. Look at his hair. At least Brown was honest about having lied. Did Bush lie? Yes. Did Clinton lie? Yes. Did Bush lie? Yes. Did Reagan lie? Yes. And so on. Brown admitted it. None of the others did. He's the best of a bad lot. Which isn't saying much.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind California was an economic powerhouse under reagen
david52875 1 year ago
@david52875 California was an economic power under Reagan, but also under Pat Brown before him, and Jerry Brown and others after him. California still is an economic power. That's because of California's location and climate. People are still coming here, even a few illegals. It took a hit when Bush closed many military bases, and it now sends more to Washington than it receives. Its financial problems are partly the result of Prop 13, which should be modified. Brown encouraged Silicon Valley.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind yes but, as beautiful as it is, it is still the 49th least friendly state to small business owners. I think Meg Whitman would be the least of two evils.
david52875 1 year ago
@david52875 Well who says it's 49th? The Chamber of Commerce? I'm a small businessman, and I like it fine. I'd rather live and do business in California than anywhere else. I voted for Brown, and I'm glad he won, but with some misgivings. He didn't support Prop 19 which I favored. But no other major candidate did either, except the Republican who ran against Pelosi in San Francisco. We'll see. One of the big problems is state salaries, pensions, etc. Arnold didn't have much luck there.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind Here are some statistics on your question regarding Calif
business hospitality and why we're ranked 49th. There is actually people employed that do nothing but coach and assist the enormous caravans of businesses on their way of Calif. Google: "1990-2010 How Many Jobs and Businesses Have Left Calif." The list is staggering.
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps What statistics? Lots of businesses have been created and failed. I asked who said we're 49th? The Chamber of Commerce? As I said, California took a big hit when some military bases were closed during that time. I do business in California, and I like it here. Being "friendly to business" is not most important to me. China is friendly to business, but I wouldn't want to live there. I like a place that is healthy, sunny, liberal, and where I can earn a living. You need to get a life.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind A point? Why do my rants always seem to lack one of those?
OK 1.) Me not having a life. That doesn't make you Nostradamus. That was a lucky guess. 2.) I'm pretty sure my point was we can't afford to have open borders. [now go ahead throw the race card] 3.) If we're going to reduce unemployment we might try business incentives. Your idea of handing out union
jobs wouldn't be so unrealistic if we could entice a few businesses to come
back to Calif.
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps I look forward to your replies, but I don't get them. I never said let's have open borders. Business incentives? I'm tired of hearing we must lure business here so we have jobs. Eliminate labor and environmental laws. Anything. Let the corporations have their way. Just as long as they give us jobs. What a wage-slave mentality! Start your own job. Stop looking to others to save you or give you a job. Find a need and fill it. Employ yourself. That's the American way. Be free as you can.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind UNCLE already for christsakes UNCLE. It pains me to say it but your last submission is unshakable. You understand the costs on all sides and your positions reveal thoughtful priorities. I am noticeably unspooled by my capitulation. Does this make me a liberal? What would B expected of me? I cannot stand the Grateful Dead. I assume the bicycle pants & tofu burgers R
mandatory. I guess Rob Reiner is our leader; I can't name one decent calif vineyard and I have to sell my Vette. Nuts
mperhaps 1 year ago
What is this? A Ju Jitsu approach? You am what you am. Just be yourself. There's nothing like it. You don't like "Touch of Gray?" That's a good song. Tofu burgers? Ugh. Rob Reiner!? Thanks for the tip. Yeah. He'd probably be all right. I think we need a California Tea Party. Not in the usual tea bag mold. But the Disgruntled Party. I'm disgruntled about Iraq and a military all over the world and corporate domination. There is no Tea Party in California, or anywhere - yet. Wanna start one?
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind Laugh it up pal, but your paying for my therapy this month. I feel like I'm running the wrong way down the field on a punt return. As for show-
ing up to a Tea Party, what with tie die t-shirts & save the whale pins? No ya I don't see a problem here. Them's ma kin w/ their eyes glazed over w/ fanaticism. Just don't say anything about John Wayne's The Alamo not being a documentary They like to fight for their Constitution but if you scare'em real good they just hand it to you.
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps All right. Forget I mentioned it. It'd make a good movie plot is all. The Tea Party movement's not going anywhere anyway. Like the Reform Party. If tax rates go back up to where they used to be when times were good, the anti-taxers won't have so much money to throw around. I'd rather see a People's Party without all the left-wing nonsense anyway. To become a party on the ballot, you have to have a certain number of signatures. You're an interesting writer. Been nice. Bye-bye.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind The Republicans have always been the worst at what they claim to be most concerned with: Deficit spending. How the Repub's ever stuck the name "Tax & Spend Liberal" on Democrats I will never know but I suspect the marketing boys from Phillip Morris had something to do with it. You do well at resisting left/right mentality using an omnidirectional approach that I don't run into often enough. You hinted around self-propriety, may I ask what business your in?
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Now you're talking plain English I can understand. Left/right is not the main axis to me. That's just economic. Authoritarian/libertarian, concentrated/decentralized power is my main axis. I definitely side with T. Jefferson in believing in spreading the power.
Right now, I'm self-employed fixing computers. I enjoy that more than anything else. But I've been other things, among them teacher, lawyer, politician, and tennis pro.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@mperhaps How about yourself? How do you earn your daily bread?
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind Tuscany Hills Wrought Iron Gate & Fence Lake Elsinore Ca
sole proprietor, no employees I have trust issues Before that electric awning instal in Palm Desert Started 5.5 yrs ago after 1 of R 2.5K home Association meetings dwn graded from Jerry Springer 2 overt projectile gossiping re: homeowners demanding the Assoc pay 4 rusted shot out fence repair. Assoc said no so I stepped up. I Graduated 86' U.C.I. B.A. Econ Reagan was in office
& my dream was 2b Ivan Boesky or Michael Milken
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Well, the climate's nice there, at least. I lived in San Diego a couple winters. Liked that. Except for along the south coast, I prefer northern CA. Don't know about Ivan or Michael, but I think you should try and live your dream.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind A few illegals? More than Germany, France and Spain together.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
@xaviqaz I was being facetious. But what's your point? D'you want to start harping about Mexicans taking all our jobs or welfare away or something? I don't care how many illegals are in Europe. It's cheap labor. That's what business loves. That's what makes an area "friendly to business." And if we knew who was hiring all those "illegals," we might be shocked. But we never hear about big ranchers getting punished for hiring illegals. Why is that? Somebody must be hiring the illegals.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind Dear keepanemptymind, have u seen those TV Ads w/ Jay Leno, Gov Arnold and Betty White standing w/ the waves lapping at the shore behind. Saying: "Dude it's so ausome here. Ca.is a way cool state. U should totally relocate yer family & Company out here" They run the ads all night, u know why? Cuz it's not true. If it was true, why would u need the ad? Liberal legisltors
R at war w/ private Bus.How can we burden R schools by dumping 1/2 mil. illiterates mex child that have paid 0
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Dear empty head. I don't watch tv anymore. It's so 20th century. But you're absolutely correct. It's terrible in here California. It was actually cold this morning. Brr. Down in the 50's! Fortunately, the sun's shining, as usual. All I can say to you is, "Stay out of California, and if you're already here, leave." We're better off without you.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
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mperhaps 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind
Again you miss the point.
This is getting to be a regular thing with you.
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Miss the point? Again? What point is that? That you' don't like Liberals or Mexicans? Liberals are trying to make us all poor? And Mexicans don't work or pay taxes and are bringing down R schools? Sorry, Charlie. I've heard your point before. I just don't agree with it. I'd rather look on the bright side and be thankful for all my blessings rather than be scared and angry. Stop watching Fox News Blues and get a life.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind Our whole system is based on immigrants. WE NEED THE
MEXICANS But come on, sign the guest book on your way in can't ya? Go threw
legal channels. And you really don't have any sympathy for the burden we put on
our schools.? Sure they're contributing once they're here but that doesn't help a
principle with 100's of illiterate teens he must create an entirely separate branch for. It's expensive: to schools, to hospitals,to jails And they hate the country they dont want 2 b Americans
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Then they'll want to join the unions and be paid a fair wage. Come on yourself. Illegals are cheaper than legals. Our system is based on cheap labor. Yes. I have sympathy for the schools and especially teachers. What's your plan, anyway? I think everybody should speak English who lives here. No bilingual signs, etc. I have no problem with that. But it sounds like you just don't like Mexicans and don't want them here. How do you know Mexicans hate the country? All of them?
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
@keepaopenmind That might have been a teeny tadpole of an exaggeration on my part; a method I use to emphasize poorly made points. English only is a substantial concession on your part. An idea once implemented would ignite sufficient opposition to bolster my opinion of anti-Americanism. I think General Motors has shown quite well what strong unions do to a company's competitive edge when they have to compete with 3rd world labor. We'll all be unemployed union members if we can't compete.
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps I'll agree, your point was poorly made. I still have no idea what your plan is. I thought it had something to do with schools and Mexicans not speaking English. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you want. It looks like you don't like unions, either. There's a reason unions developed, you know. If you don't want to belong to a union, pick your jobs better. Or better yet, be self-employed. You haven't thought things through very well. No offense.
keepaopenmind 1 year ago
The fact that this did not convince Californians to not vote for Jerry Brown, whether or not they supported Meg Whitman, is just a perfect example of how stupid liberals are. We had him in the 70's, and we are still paying this price for that, and here these idiots go voting him in again. Time to move out of Ca....
rockerdude967 1 year ago
Offer inexpensive 4 year degrees at Comm Colleges That is an incredibly good idea, paid w/ what? We'd still have a teensy tad pool of a problem with kids grad. from High School that can't read or write. It is unfathomable what we ask of our schools. We burdened every school with an additional 8 or 900 Mexican sixteen year olds that can't read or write and we say "make sure they're ready
for college by their senior year". There's no money for such a daunting task.
Welcome 2 Third world America
mperhaps 1 year ago
Plus the democrats have majority in the senate. If they really cared they would've got their party together and passed it.
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago
Sorry, but I can't continue this. You're an independent probably because you like to consider that you think outside the box. However your beliefs clearly belong to the democratic side because you say things that sound good without considering all the consequences. If that bill had passed you would have seen consumers hit the worst. Electricity prices would have soared, as if they aren't already going to. You think you're hurting the big bad companies but shit rolls down hill.
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago
Hey thats wierd. another liberal politician that is a liar.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
Saying "for a while" is simply a longer method of saying "awhile". Therefore, my grammar is still correct, if tedious. I think you should be very careful about criticizing grammar when you forgot to capitalize "Another" in the second second sentence of this crap post I just responded to. Don't use ad hominem attacks like you did in one of your posts against me. In Socratic terms, it is much more proper to attack the arguments instead. Try to be more intelligent like KStudios.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
Oooh, I repeated "second" there. That's my mistake on my part.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls You mention intelligence but you voted for Brown. Did you watch the video that you are posting comments on?
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
What Jerry Brown is clearly saying, if you catch the part about Bush and Clinton not having a plan, is that no politician truly has a plan when they come into office. It's no secret that politicians have no plan when they enter office. They have to formulate plans every step of the way. On account of how muddled American Politics currently is, it's not surprising that there is no real plan when one doesn't know every single variable and operator etc. in the equation.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
On top of that, the plans the politicians come up with on the fly and how well they work out determine a politician's track record. Jerry Brown managed to uphold the Californian school systems despite the daunting hurdles prop 13 put in place for him. He simply did his job to the best of his ability and he did it well. If he simply let 13 take its course, his time as governor would have been shunned and the taxpayers would feel guilty for killing the school systems.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Hey guy, interpret it how you please. I understand plain english and the guy is a liar. I understand exactly what he is making a point of, but again, he is admitting to being a liar to the people to minipulate his position as govenor.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
It's called playing the political game. All politicians, whether they be former businessmen or career politicians have to lie at some point. All that matters is if their lying succeeded in helping their constituents in the long run. Brown's lying about a plan beforehand but later formulating one earned California a $5 billion surplus and later mitigated prop 13's damage, while Bush's lying about Iraqi WMDs got us into a whole mess of drama more trouble than what it was worth.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Sorry to inform you that you are wrong. The fact is that Brown, when he left as Govenor in 1983, left deukmejian with a 5 billion dollar debt in his lap. Im not sure what fantasy land you come from but time to wake up.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
That debt was due to Jerry Brown mitigating the revenue damages caused by prop 13. He was simply doing his job trying to keep California's infrastructure up despite the hurdles of that prop. Ever since that proposition was voted in, our state dealt with revenue problems. The reason he was voted in is because people from then remember that he actually tried as governor and did his best to advance the interest of this state. Prop 13 created a huge revenue problem for the state.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls No politicians like Jerry Brown caused cali debt. Prop 13 is for the people. And obviously was passed and stood with a huge majority of the vote. You obviously believe in socialism. And again: How do you consider a debt a surplus?
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
I never said a debt was a surplus. I said that debt was due to Brown doing his best to lessen the detrimental effects of prop 13. In the end, prop 13 was an extreme and rash decision from the voters when the property tax system could've been simply reformed to be less damaging to homeowners. Also, considering the amount of used infrastructure California has, it is no surprise we have so many high taxes. If you don't like it, go live in Alaska.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls One of the problems I think we are also having as a state is that the Democrats have exploited taxes so much that whenever they come up on any ballot people vote no. Thanks (d).
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
Also, It's not the exploitation of taxes by the government that are giving us problems. It's the fact that the real estate industry appraisers overpriced housing here 5 years ago. It is also because because high tech companies are shipping our jobs overseas. The fact that you conservatives shot down a bill that would heavily tax companies for outsourcing labor gives me great amusement. That bill would've given companies a huge incentive to hire over here more.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls You mean Obama is shipping our companies over seas? Like Hummer, Which not only did he want to ship over seas he didnt sell. And layed off thousands if not millions. And moving to Alaska would allow (D) with obscured visions of reality, like yourself, run this state in the ground. So be thankful that there are still people that research before they vote and dont just watch and believe msnbc.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls And you did state a debt was a surplus when you said "Brown made a 5 billion dollar surplus" When in fact it was a 5 billion dollar debt.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Remember (D) stands for jackass
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger And I bet you never stopped to think that maybe property value going up so high was a stunt to get more property tax. Which is based on a apraised value.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger Anyway, back to the fact in hand, Jerry Brown is a liar and a failer to the people of California and he was still elected as Govenor.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
No, Prop 13 limited property tax revenues for the government. 1% Property taxes will never be close to profitable for the gov. Those appraisals were more moves to assist the elite bankers cashing in on the massive interest of $8000+ a month home loans the people living on credit couldn't afford but took on anyway. Just like the times before the great depression, our crisis is once again due to the private sector and common Americans like you abusing the credit system.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Ha ha. You dont have the slightest clue what my credit status is. Your a waist of my time. Lemmeknow if you come up with any facts.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
Clearly you couldn't detect the sarcasm in the last sentence. I wasn't implying that you specifically had a bad credit score(although you may). That was a simple harsh phrase against people who abuse the credit system in general and then complain about about why our economy is completely trashed like they had nothing to do with it.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls You still voted for Brown
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
@caseyheichberger
Also, how did you mistake "waste" for "waist"? Clearly that's a case of bad context. Like every slogan screamer from both polar sides of the American political spectrum, you're always trying to come up with funny, new expressions to sway clueless voters to your side. Btw, I'm an American independent.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls The democrats knew the anti-outsourcing bill would fail before they even brought it up for vote. It was just a political move to make the republicans look bad. They brought it up at the last minute and looking at the bill from an economic standpoint it wouldn't save a single job and doesn't give companies an incentive to "insource" jobs. It would raise prices which hurts consumers, encourage american companies to sell foreign subsidiaries, and continue to lower the dollar value.
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago
@KurohigeStudios
No, we'll just raise tariffs on imported manufactured goods to the point where it is much more profitable to have factories manufacturing the goods inside our country. That's how Honda and Toyota got around the fat tariffs we slapped on their cars. They simply opened multiple assembly plants within the country and negotiated deals with parts manufacturers within the country.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@KurohigeStudios
In order to solve the high tech career outsourcing crisis, we'll simply have to allow our massive community college system here to award 4 year degrees. That would make higher education much less expensive and would create a massive, concentrated pool of highly skilled workers that employers cannot ignore. Inexpensive education is what allowed the silicon valley industries to flourish. We need inexpensive education again in order for this country to prosper into the future.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls
What bill was that you speak of? Of course the first thing that pops to mind is
that the bill would make the company uncompetitive. But if it was nation wide it might work. I'd have research the economic affects more. Don't other countries have disincentives to their companies that want to import? Do I really give a shit if France wants to keep buying from China? What happened to that bill?
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps It's called the Creating American Jobs and End Offshoring Act. If you read my earlier post the bill wouldn't have accomplished either of those tasks. It was a bad idea and the democrats simply used it as a political ploy to make republicans look bad right before the midterm election.
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago
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mperhaps 1 year ago
@KurohigeStudios I can't believe I even considered that type of legislation for a
minute. End Off Shoring Act should be filed with ab32: Bills designed to bring
about change by increasing hardship and suffering. Unfortunately there is nothing in the provisions of capitalism to discourage the use of .50 cents/day Chinese labor. On the contrary a capitalist, like myself, would be logic bound to exploit it. Until labor cost equalize from our reduced standard of living. Welcome 2 3rd world America
mperhaps 1 year ago
@mperhaps Exactly, if there's nothing from stopping you of course you're going to do it, it's a good business decision. It's the same concept as receiving welfare, most of the people on it don't really need it and could find a way to get by, but why not take it if it's available to you?
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago
@KurohigeStudios What a terrifying thought 2 Democrats: Welfare recipients getting by without assistance. No worries; Brown sleeps like a baby. Every member of those unions he keeps in his pocket pay 925.00 in dues/ yr, $450.00 goes neg. ads 2 win the minds of the sub-100's (IQ) Joseph Gobbles was a pussy in comparison. What would the campaign platform be of an honest politician? Vote 4 me I'll give u less? The true American has been barking about unsustainabilty 4 years. Only time will tell
mperhaps 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Maybe you
heard that from Jerry Browns mouth. ha ha
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
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Whitman turned Google into a multi-billion dollar success along with employing approx. 30x the people it started with. Your right she is a buisness woman. Jerry Brown is a crook. and openly admits that he lies to the people, but thats not enough, just like obama you liberals think these politicians are gonna turn it around and help.
caseyheichberger 1 year ago
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caseyheichberger 1 year ago
Don't forget he pushed for the unions to include government employees and he has his eye on removing prop 13. We need your tax dollars we're not paying enough.
Brace yourself !!!
jlbcalif 1 year ago
California is stupid. Do not ask the rest of us for a bailout.
hotamerican69 1 year ago 2
ooh scratch that, I meant the guy has less hair today.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
This looks like old footage, plus the guy has even less hair than today. Also, everyone seems to forget this guy's track record as former governor in his first two terms where he was considered more of a economically conservative governor than Reagan was before him. His fairly conservative policies in the past assisted California in acquiring a 5 billion dollar budget surplus for a while. Keep your butthurt to yourselves Whitman lovers. Jerry Brown knows what he's doing, so let the man work.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Jerry Brown knows what he's doing? He just admitted in this interview that he had no idea what he was doing. Brown had his head in the clouds during his entire governorship and he just let the politicians tell him what to do, which is exactly what happened to Schwarzenegger. The vote was very close, half of us wanted to start along the right path like the rest of the country and the other half wanted to keep walking down the same road of failure.
KurohigeStudios 1 year ago 2