To schroter333 - I have a bunch of different live versions by Dave Mason and/or Traffic. I like all of them better than Cocker's. It seems to me Joe got famous doing alot of covers of other people's songs. From Traffic to Beatles...
@TYANTOWERS not to complicate matters more,but honestly My favorite is Rare Earths cover of this song.I DO like them all however! (I play this one myself in one of my bands!)
I appreciate anyne who grew up this way. Rumors have it this may be the year for the big journey. Hell I,m 61 and just barely hanging on. Good luck to all of us gettin back home kids !
@emptypages1970 Agreed! I will say this- there's always gonna be good bands coming out. But there's just too much amazing stuff from the past to concern myself with the present.
My band played all these traffic songs in the late sixties/early seventies....they were great then and now. Many were redone by Joe Cocker and others, a testament to their classic status...
One of the best groups of 60's-70'sTraffic, Steve Windwood rocks n rules. My favorite song was Low Spark of the High Heeled Boys. Jerome Plotnick, L.O.W., CA.
@hailbot666 how old are we again, If you're 13 its alright to act like a fag and use 666 and speak of the devil, I'm guessing ur using the devil to piss ur mom off???
Traffic might be the most underrated group of the 60s. Such a unique sound that you can still trace back to its roots, and such a prolific song catalogue.
I can so remember hearing this album back in the late 60's... man, there was some STUFF to listen to! I bought this album and Nazz on day...what a freaking SCORE!!!!
This song is perfect at one exception : Winwood does only the refrain's chorus. I wish he would be the lead singer. But only hearing his chorus on the refrain warms ALL the song. Winwood is the Jackson 5's Michael, he is the cheese on the pastas!!
@difolk Dave Mason's voice is perfect for this song. And he wrote it too, so why shouldn't he sing it? As one person already mentioned, very similar to Stephen Stills.
@ravenkiller1 Mason's voice is ok. But it's just ok! Winwood's one is wonderfull! So ok it's Mason's song, but who cares, when you're in a band, it's not because you wrote a song that you should necessarily lead sing it, the purpose being to make the best result possible and serve the song. And the shorts passages when we hear Winwood at the refrains, are the best moments of the song for me, That's honnestly what my ears tell me, what my emotions tell me, just because of the timbre of his voice!
@difolk I happen to think his voice is better than just ok. I understand that when you're part of a band that you don't necessarily sing the songs you write. Mason didn't write "We Just Disagree". But in this case Mason was coming back to Traffic...it was only right that he sang it. Sometimes songs are constructed in ways to give you a taste of something rather than the whole entree. Listen to "Seven Turns" by the Allman Brothers. Gregg Allman is only heard on the refrain & it fits perfectly.
@ravenkiller1 I disagree with your opinion but no problem, I accept that tastes can't be discussed. It's just a question of feelings. And for me, wathever the circumstances, Winwood's voice will always be more interesting than Mason's one in any song, will always make the song warmer and richer, it's just obvious in my ears, there's no need any explanation. And it's ok if you don't feel the same! Whatever, this song still is great the way it is!! ;)
@difolk I think another reason they had Mason sing lead is because the arrangement is very folksy and his voice seems to be more suited to that style. If Winwood sang lead on this I believe they would have had to arrange it differently. Winwood has the better voice no doubt, but I think Mason's is a better fit for this particular arrangement.
@ravenkiller1 Once again I disagree, sorry :). I see what U mean but Winwood has the kind of voice, of talent, that he could fit to any style, the proof for me is that there are a lot of songs in which he leads and which are not at all soul arranged. I'm sure that with this same arrangement, his voice would have just be perfect. But don't get me wrong, I never said that Mason's voice in this song was bad, it's great as it is, I just feel it could be even better.
@difolk Who said anything about soul arrangement? He does all types of arrangements beautifully. Obviously you're obsessed with Winwood, so I'm out. No point continuing this. Start your campaign for Winwood to do every song of every genre...best of luck to you!
@ravenkiller1 Why do you say I'm obsessed with Winwood? I'm not! I just tell you my opinion, I answer your argument with what I think. I didn't say anything different of what I was saying on my previous comments, it means the same thing. I don't understand why you say that, I just develop my thought. I don't like at all what Winwood did from the 80's, the way he used technology in his songs. Just his voice is freakin' beautiful and more interesting than Mason's one even on this song (for me)!
I agree with you S Winwood voice stick,his voice have been with me since the time he was with traffic.but it boild down to the whole song the music that can bribg out it great voice.they have many great singer out there if they are not with the right group they can't shine some don't have a voice as good as stevie but the group was good i don't want to drope name because they are also i like
@buffspringfield As of 1/26/2012, 4 more people need to 'get a life'! Traffic was a great classic rock band and RIP to the members who passed away...Sadly, this great song is rarely played on mainstream FM classic rock stations nowadays....
at 56 years of age.....i was there for most of it ......saw Dave in orlando in '90 or '91 ..not sure at this time .....just musing.......feel's alright......
@MrCherryJuice .. I'm sorry to say ya ... missed the names. Behind Mr.Winwood is Mr. Wood who passed away many yrs. ago. An't no problem, but I know the faces and names by heart...have been personally with them in 1969. Wish ya a pleasant week-end.
why did Mason leave "Traffic" anyway? 'he had a lot to offer musically and was a nice vocal change from Winwood and Capaldi to give them more depth and character
@written12 agreed. I also like the symbol for the band-next to Chris wood pointed finger. Traffic's still very cool band that is missed in today's newer mostly crappy music. I also like many bands especially Jethro Tull and Moody Blues that I think are better overall for classic rock than more popular bands like Led Zep and Pink Floyd. I believe a Steve Winwood Ian Anderson (JT) collaboration would
knock the Music Gods out of their heavenly slumber and re-define genius musician.
Winwood and Ian Anderson? Interesting pairing. You make a good point- there are numerous musicians who could have, should have found their way to each other over the years.
As for classic rock radio, it's really a joke. The same few songs by the same few bands. And don't get me wrong- they are, for the most part, very good or even songs, but the spectrum of great rock is much broader.
By the way, if you like Traffic, check out the Mark-Almond Band.
@lolodlavielleho ... sorry , NO -- That would be " Jethro Tull " -- another great band ,. But -- traffic is just fine as they were . No -- not just fine -- maybe the BEST -- in song writing ;
@busterbone DM in a documentary felt that his songs were looked down upon (especially hole in my shoe!) , others say that he tried to push around Winwood. Ironically, only these 2 remain from the original 60s line up.
@anthonythirteen thanks for the info. I like both Dave Mason and Steve Winwood's singing and guitar playing. It sounds like many bands, they had ego issues with one another that forced lineup changes or members to leave early. Too bad Jim Capaldi and Chris Wood couldn't intervene to keep them all together over time.
i think the mood of this song when it was made was depressed but to the point where he just dont even care anymore. so he performs lightly. maybe such an upbeat song for that reason
Today I was stuck in traffic longer then Stevie Winwood was.
ragsgaras 1 week ago 2
To schroter333 - I have a bunch of different live versions by Dave Mason and/or Traffic. I like all of them better than Cocker's. It seems to me Joe got famous doing alot of covers of other people's songs. From Traffic to Beatles...
scalemiester 2 weeks ago
200,000 views!
schroter333 2 weeks ago
Thumbs up all who like this version over Joe Cocker's (I just want to know, I personally like Joe Cocker's version more).
TYANTOWERS 2 weeks ago
@TYANTOWERS not to complicate matters more,but honestly My favorite is Rare Earths cover of this song.I DO like them all however! (I play this one myself in one of my bands!)
reyjalapeno 2 days ago
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@reyjalapeno Can you point me to a video? I could only find covers of the song.
TYANTOWERS 2 days ago
@reyjalapeno No one ever did it as well as the author, Dave Mason kills this tune
Bethelbets 2 days ago
I appreciate anyne who grew up this way. Rumors have it this may be the year for the big journey. Hell I,m 61 and just barely hanging on. Good luck to all of us gettin back home kids !
spacecase1950 2 weeks ago
No disrespect to Traffic, Dave Mason and the rest who did this song...but Joe Cocker's version SMOKES the rest!
jabnhook8r 1 month ago
@jabnhook8r Joe is a music god, but the Traffic version is great. Plus you have to give respect to the guy that wrote the song.
regionrat270 3 weeks ago
@jabnhook8r no disrespect to you either bud but imho grand funk's blasts 'em both
outta the water
there's a 'tube out there ive seen some hippiefest thing mason fronting it but farner
on the stage too ha woulda been perfect if only cocker'd shown up
JustAintthatWay 1 week ago
Musical dexterity!
When you've got this why do people even bother with todays inept music?
emptypages1970 1 month ago 6
@emptypages1970 Agreed! I will say this- there's always gonna be good bands coming out. But there's just too much amazing stuff from the past to concern myself with the present.
DanGoguen 1 month ago
@dangoguenhave you heard: how-hi-the-li by family,
happiness is just around the bend by brian auger,
melissa by the alloman brothers
emptypages1970 4 weeks ago
dislikes have no soul
MsSmorrow 1 month ago
@MsSmorrow it was a song that was ment for another band to bring out all the soul in it, like grand funk did.
ffieditor 1 month ago
3 dog night, joe cocker, dave mason/traffic, grand funk railroad et al did justice to this great great song...
godisdeadagain 1 month ago
@godisdeadagain And Rare Earth
AnthonyT50 1 month ago
Dave Mason Baby
YoungPorter85 1 month ago
Not only were they a great band, but their music is just as good today as it was when it was recorded. Timeless perfection.....I love Traffic!
wilgus57 1 month ago 8
My band played all these traffic songs in the late sixties/early seventies....they were great then and now. Many were redone by Joe Cocker and others, a testament to their classic status...
54crey 2 months ago
One of the best groups of 60's-70'sTraffic, Steve Windwood rocks n rules. My favorite song was Low Spark of the High Heeled Boys. Jerome Plotnick, L.O.W., CA.
jeromedoc4u 2 months ago
This song basically describes a doomed relationship I had with a girl I still think about.
imonlydoingthisonce1 3 months ago
Jeff Tweedy from wilco looks a lot like Chris Wood. Anyone else think so?
GreenyMcFleetwood 3 months ago
@GreenyMcFleetwood yea he does..in that pic at least
goodnewsfpwlbn 3 months ago
Dave Mason, a bit underrated. Saw him many years ago with Livingstone Taylor (James Taylor's brother) up at Angles Camp. Always a good show there.
tixximmi 3 months ago
'alirightttt' lol gr8 songggg
kyussrock29 4 months ago
What an apt and fitting title to a song!
CatatonicBliss 4 months ago
Is that Jason Orange & Mark Owen at the back..?
CooperTroopa 4 months ago
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sirronald69 4 months ago
its a TRAFFIC tune with mason on vocals if you wanna do that then how bout just saying that ninety percent are winwood!!
dougerrr 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Traffic
watch?v=7bvCJv31SeQ Feeling Alright Vino Rosso
blueslenz 5 months ago
It's Dave Mason song and he lead the vocals....
fagen7 5 months ago
The Joe Cocker version of this song makes me want to spazz with rage. Hail Satan.
hailbot666 5 months ago
@hailbot666 how old are we again, If you're 13 its alright to act like a fag and use 666 and speak of the devil, I'm guessing ur using the devil to piss ur mom off???
MrGeltabs 4 months ago in playlist Traffic 1968 Traffic 2
esta super rola.. de esta super banda.. y.... ademas.. sintiendose bien... ugg.!!! me da demasioadoi.. yeah.!" hjartqpeqwtqwtwqtwq!!
luiman20 5 months ago
Traffic might be the most underrated group of the 60s. Such a unique sound that you can still trace back to its roots, and such a prolific song catalogue.
theatlantisrise 5 months ago 2
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@theatlantisrise all great groups are underated if not everyone hears them
Syzygy60 4 months ago
Simply brilliant!!
yonaguska4 6 months ago 2
Damn these guys were good together..........
buckreuter 6 months ago 3
Great song and clothes still look cool decades later
guydreamr 6 months ago
Just got back from seeing Dave Mason, even though its been 43 yeras, he still sounded like he did when I first heard him in '67.
camarorider67 6 months ago
@camarorider67 I'm going to be seeing him in a small club in Scottsdale in one month
deserthawk1 4 months ago
I can so remember hearing this album back in the late 60's... man, there was some STUFF to listen to! I bought this album and Nazz on day...what a freaking SCORE!!!!
jyuzynko 6 months ago
This song is perfect at one exception : Winwood does only the refrain's chorus. I wish he would be the lead singer. But only hearing his chorus on the refrain warms ALL the song. Winwood is the Jackson 5's Michael, he is the cheese on the pastas!!
difolk 6 months ago
@difolk Dave Mason's voice is perfect for this song. And he wrote it too, so why shouldn't he sing it? As one person already mentioned, very similar to Stephen Stills.
ravenkiller1 6 months ago
@ravenkiller1 Mason's voice is ok. But it's just ok! Winwood's one is wonderfull! So ok it's Mason's song, but who cares, when you're in a band, it's not because you wrote a song that you should necessarily lead sing it, the purpose being to make the best result possible and serve the song. And the shorts passages when we hear Winwood at the refrains, are the best moments of the song for me, That's honnestly what my ears tell me, what my emotions tell me, just because of the timbre of his voice!
difolk 6 months ago
@difolk I happen to think his voice is better than just ok. I understand that when you're part of a band that you don't necessarily sing the songs you write. Mason didn't write "We Just Disagree". But in this case Mason was coming back to Traffic...it was only right that he sang it. Sometimes songs are constructed in ways to give you a taste of something rather than the whole entree. Listen to "Seven Turns" by the Allman Brothers. Gregg Allman is only heard on the refrain & it fits perfectly.
ravenkiller1 6 months ago
@ravenkiller1 I disagree with your opinion but no problem, I accept that tastes can't be discussed. It's just a question of feelings. And for me, wathever the circumstances, Winwood's voice will always be more interesting than Mason's one in any song, will always make the song warmer and richer, it's just obvious in my ears, there's no need any explanation. And it's ok if you don't feel the same! Whatever, this song still is great the way it is!! ;)
difolk 6 months ago
@difolk I think another reason they had Mason sing lead is because the arrangement is very folksy and his voice seems to be more suited to that style. If Winwood sang lead on this I believe they would have had to arrange it differently. Winwood has the better voice no doubt, but I think Mason's is a better fit for this particular arrangement.
ravenkiller1 6 months ago
@ravenkiller1 Once again I disagree, sorry :). I see what U mean but Winwood has the kind of voice, of talent, that he could fit to any style, the proof for me is that there are a lot of songs in which he leads and which are not at all soul arranged. I'm sure that with this same arrangement, his voice would have just be perfect. But don't get me wrong, I never said that Mason's voice in this song was bad, it's great as it is, I just feel it could be even better.
difolk 6 months ago
@difolk Who said anything about soul arrangement? He does all types of arrangements beautifully. Obviously you're obsessed with Winwood, so I'm out. No point continuing this. Start your campaign for Winwood to do every song of every genre...best of luck to you!
ravenkiller1 6 months ago
@ravenkiller1 Why do you say I'm obsessed with Winwood? I'm not! I just tell you my opinion, I answer your argument with what I think. I didn't say anything different of what I was saying on my previous comments, it means the same thing. I don't understand why you say that, I just develop my thought. I don't like at all what Winwood did from the 80's, the way he used technology in his songs. Just his voice is freakin' beautiful and more interesting than Mason's one even on this song (for me)!
difolk 6 months ago
I agree with you S Winwood voice stick,his voice have been with me since the time he was with traffic.but it boild down to the whole song the music that can bribg out it great voice.they have many great singer out there if they are not with the right group they can't shine some don't have a voice as good as stevie but the group was good i don't want to drope name because they are also i like
danielthebear1 6 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Traffic
@ravenkiller1 Perhaps because Dave Mason wrote the song?
SteamDougy 1 month ago
@SteamDougy Read my other comments. I mentioned that.
ravenkiller1 1 month ago
@ravenkiller1 Yes indeed, I hadn't read that far. :)
SteamDougy 1 month ago
Voice so very similar to Stephen Stills
Burt472 7 months ago
gonna see mason in concert aug 2 p.s. im 13
bsufilms 7 months ago
@bsufilms im 13 too and i saw him there too
RockNfuckinRoller97 7 months ago
@RockNfuckinRoller97
Cool. Very cool.
(Like the username)
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 7 months ago
@RockNfuckinRoller97
Cool. Very cool.
(Like the username)
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 7 months ago
Grand Funk Railroad all day long on this...
michaledp 7 months ago
Song Of The Day.
ListenToTheDanielle 8 months ago
gotta love it...lyrically genious!
iLiveheree 8 months ago
NO SABIA DE LA EXISTENCIA DE ESTA BANDA..!! ES MAGNIFICA.... ORGASMO PARA MIS OIDOS.!!!!!!!!!!!!
rahmenteil 8 months ago
Dave Mason's lead. Not Stevie.
I thought Mason was upper right, Winwood front and center?
javernot 9 months ago
@javernot you're right on both counts
pretorious700 8 months ago
@javernot - You are quite correct.
MrCherryJuice 7 months ago
im not feelin to good myselt. im crying.
joshmore64 9 months ago
Com'on Man pass the the joint quit hoggin dude
PathfinderMac 9 months ago
Man, I love this song so much! I wish that they made a video though for it because I love seeing Steve Winwood sing.
SgtPlmFry 9 months ago
1 person isn't feelin' alright.
zchris87v 9 months ago
Happy Birthday Dave Mason! Thanks for the inspiration! (note: Dave is at top-right, with the hat; you got it wrong laggie)
kareemmagicworthy 10 months ago
H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y Dave Mason....you were such an important part of my musical upbringing! Raising a glass to you today!
rocktenniscat 10 months ago
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sirronald69 10 months ago
I'm having this at my funeral
dent4958 10 months ago 19
@dent4958
Haha!
SgtPlmFry 9 months ago
....and thats why its callled "classic rok" !!!!
ozzfann 10 months ago 2
The Jackson 5 version is better but this is still mint and the OG!!
purplebulb80 10 months ago
This is the original.....
blondshel 11 months ago
One dislike.........get a life.....Traffic was a great band
buffspringfield 11 months ago 9
@buffspringfield me too :)
tljones4769 1 month ago
@buffspringfield As of 1/26/2012, 4 more people need to 'get a life'! Traffic was a great classic rock band and RIP to the members who passed away...Sadly, this great song is rarely played on mainstream FM classic rock stations nowadays....
rocketmail217881755 1 month ago
NOOOO DISLIKES!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!
jackstraw727 1 year ago
Jim Capaldi, Chris Wood, Dave Mason y Steve Winwood. "Traffic". Grupo formado en 1967. Cancion original, escrita por Dave Mason.
TheJavierm7 1 year ago
at 56 years of age.....i was there for most of it ......saw Dave in orlando in '90 or '91 ..not sure at this time .....just musing.......feel's alright......
55chianti 1 year ago
at 56 years of age.....i was there for most of it
55chianti 1 year ago
123 people are feelin' alright!
jferg7159 1 year ago
Did three dog night do the original or is this the original
Harryhoodz 1 year ago
@Harryhoodz this is absolutely the original. 3 dog night? c'mon man, please
carybful 1 year ago
@Harryhoodz THIS is the original.
gittahfiend 11 months ago 2
i like listening to trafic but the music is always depresing
ElkGroveBMX 1 year ago
Classic song....
jeffrey2711 1 year ago
My pops said he wants this song played at his funeral. aka
"seems I've got to have a change of scene..."
"...You feelin alright? Im not feelin to good myself"
classic
DanHalen1234 1 year ago
one of my favorite songs, this is really laid back but i like grand funk railroads version the best, and joe cocker kills it too
ringostar8 1 year ago
@ringostar8 Grand Funk Railroad? Really? How about the version by The Monkees. sad and Pitiful comment
carybful 1 year ago
So melllooowwww gotta love it. This song can always cheer me up
EddieVH666 1 year ago 19
Left-to-right ... Capaldi, Wood, Mason, Winwood ... A bunch of great lads...
I surely feel alright when listening to this groovy tune!!! History won't repeat itself!!!
Appreciate ya the post ...from Budapest
laggie24 1 year ago 30
@laggie24 You did a good job - made me feel alright. with this one. Tks. Aggie :D
1fresia1 1 year ago
@laggie24 - It's Capaldi, Mason, Winwood (front), Mason.
MrCherryJuice 7 months ago
@MrCherryJuice .. I'm sorry to say ya ... missed the names. Behind Mr.Winwood is Mr. Wood who passed away many yrs. ago. An't no problem, but I know the faces and names by heart...have been personally with them in 1969. Wish ya a pleasant week-end.
laggie24 7 months ago
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oh fuck yeah yeah
purplesage53 1 year ago
"One of The most Creative BEST,album's ever Made ,get off the Floor.
DYNODRUM 1 year ago
I LOVE THEM!
hakadushblue 1 year ago
Fuckyeah!
:D
forzuk 1 year ago
Ostbahn Kurti & die Chefpartie, Höchste Zeit (1985), Album: Live
Bluesanne 1 year ago
like i said,be honest here......mason is a blagger...WINWOOD IS THE SOUL STAR..
TheGkenny 1 year ago 2
winwood should have sung this........maso BVS.
TheGkenny 1 year ago
For there's too much to do before I die.
basicaa 1 year ago
well now i don't...
bendiatho 1 year ago
I'm feel alright
bendiatho 1 year ago
why did Mason leave "Traffic" anyway? 'he had a lot to offer musically and was a nice vocal change from Winwood and Capaldi to give them more depth and character
busterbone 1 year ago
@busterbone
I don't know why he split, but I agree with you. He definitely added a different mood to the band's sound.
And what a song! Forty years down the line and it still sounds great.
written12 1 year ago
@written12 agreed. I also like the symbol for the band-next to Chris wood pointed finger. Traffic's still very cool band that is missed in today's newer mostly crappy music. I also like many bands especially Jethro Tull and Moody Blues that I think are better overall for classic rock than more popular bands like Led Zep and Pink Floyd. I believe a Steve Winwood Ian Anderson (JT) collaboration would
knock the Music Gods out of their heavenly slumber and re-define genius musician.
busterbone 1 year ago
@busterbone
Winwood and Ian Anderson? Interesting pairing. You make a good point- there are numerous musicians who could have, should have found their way to each other over the years.
As for classic rock radio, it's really a joke. The same few songs by the same few bands. And don't get me wrong- they are, for the most part, very good or even songs, but the spectrum of great rock is much broader.
By the way, if you like Traffic, check out the Mark-Almond Band.
written12 1 year ago
@busterbone You need Ian anderson and Jon anderson for this to succeed.
lolodlavielleho 1 year ago
@lolodlavielleho ... sorry , NO -- That would be " Jethro Tull " -- another great band ,. But -- traffic is just fine as they were . No -- not just fine -- maybe the BEST -- in song writing ;
musicianship ; vocals ... i like Traffic ;>) joey
JoeySunB 1 year ago
@busterbone DM in a documentary felt that his songs were looked down upon (especially hole in my shoe!) , others say that he tried to push around Winwood. Ironically, only these 2 remain from the original 60s line up.
anthonythirteen 1 year ago
@anthonythirteen thanks for the info. I like both Dave Mason and Steve Winwood's singing and guitar playing. It sounds like many bands, they had ego issues with one another that forced lineup changes or members to leave early. Too bad Jim Capaldi and Chris Wood couldn't intervene to keep them all together over time.
busterbone 1 year ago
@busterbone - the cliched- but-it's-becase-its so-true one of 'Musical Differences'
noelpne 1 year ago
This echoes the Little Feat song, where after jamming, the mood changes.
FelixAtrox 1 year ago
im not feelin too good myself
liamsdad33 1 year ago
i think the mood of this song when it was made was depressed but to the point where he just dont even care anymore. so he performs lightly. maybe such an upbeat song for that reason
projectpat18 1 year ago
@projectpat18 i get that
liamsdad33 1 year ago
@projectpat18 I don't even question it because occasionally I get like that myself.
RoyFive 1 year ago
uma das preciosidades que os 60's nos proporcionou
jc19641 2 years ago
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CharlotteAnne66 2 years ago
its funny how a sad song, with sad lyrics, becomes a song that is upbeat.
diebelt1 2 years ago
Joe Cocker is a cover song hack.... Traffic will move the red lights to Reno!
kitakashiwa 2 years ago
are those tattoo you waiting on a friend horns?
kitakashiwa 2 years ago
@kitakashiwa dude wtf does that mean?????lollll wtf hahaha
sgfreakrokks 1 year ago
I'm Feelin Alright!
kitakashiwa 2 years ago