B. Fuck yes and i'm so glad the author of this question took carefull consideration on how dumbass people chose the wrong answer
Ps not ansering this question will be counted as a yes. Not looking at the question will be counted as a yes. Reading the question will be counted as a yes. and losing the game will be counted as a yes WICH YOU JUST LOST BY THE WAY!
Feminism wants’ to monopolize their equality for women cause as their battle cry. God forbid an equalist wants equality for both without some screaming harpy saying "why aren’t you a feminist we are for equality!?" They do this because they know that competition hurts their movement and they will eventually become less holier than thou to their more truthful counterpart. It’seffective for the dumb, brain-dead, and the flaming homosexual unicorns who like robot orgies .
Man suing gender studies depo for ignoring International Men's Day. Tom Martin is bringing a lawsuit against LSE's Gender Institute for its use of sex discriminatory learning materials. Watch the video called Tom Martin sues LSE... and go to the legal fighting fund and donate what you can, at sexismbusters. No more excuses for excluding men's equality issues from curriculum! Help Tom win this potentially game-changing lawsuit, so our boys and men will be treated fairly in education from now on.
feminism is a blind, selfish, backward evil belief system that was in favour of one gender over another and practised sexism in almost everything it did and say. We would be better off to hunt down and imprison those that are still alive for crimes against humanity. Their ideas were influenced and brought into the world by satan to weaken the family structure and cause division and chaos in society, on this point, they achieved their goals quite well.
Feminists are shooting themselves in the foot. All they are doing is creating more hatred against women with their hatred against men and their double standards.
@userdetails1 I think that was the point of the socially engineered movement. The guaranteed outcome was damage to normal relations between men and women to weaken the family unit, and allow the population to move one step closer to being online in a squad bay with no personal space, no identity, and no rights--just like boot camp. Can you say "government totalitarianism?" The only purpose of the "feminist" movement is to kill us--all of us--or make us slaves who would be better off dead.
Ok, let's back the truck up. Women are angry because we are not treated equally. Telling women to "stop whining" because we want the same rights and treatment as you do is infantile. All I saw here was "nana-nana boo-boo, I'm better then you". You made fun of young women and mothers, how does that make a point?
@ChibiGeeBee One can say "Stop whining", and it can merely mean, "stop whining". I'll go out on a limb and say that a woman has more of a tendency to read much more into things, than is certainly there. "Stop whining" does not necessarily have to mean, ""nana-nana boo-boo, I'm better then you". Please try to remain as neutral as possible.
@ChibiGeeBee Can you treat two vastly different things the same? Should you? What problems might arise, especially if these were two parts of something like "humanity?" If you were going to have "equality," we would be living in a totalitarian prison worse than hell, you fool. Dignity only comes from acknowledging male/female differences. The unisex movement and all the related crap is sick, wrong, evil, and disgusting. You don't have the right to force others into your totalitarian dream!
@EvilsOfFeminism First of all, I DON'T like being told who and what I am! YOU have no clue what I believe! As for differences, yes, men and women have them, and yet we are all also human. Human comes first, before male or female. A woman like me knows better then anybody what the differences are, and I celebrate my personal femininty every day. I don't hate men, I don't scream at every half-naked chick on commercials(I rather enjoy women), and I have no agenda. I only think you are rude.
@BlueMaxx86 But you still haven't shown any rights that a man posseess that a woman does not. Being forced to be equal among unequals is not a right. On the absolute contrary, a state of equality can only be brought about when unequal rights are enforced. Thus for women to be equal to men in economic terms women would have to have special and additional rights to men.
I'm sorry, but what commentary did you have here? You just showed some vehement women arguing and then showed a Communist speaking about beer and using women for their pleasure as if that's the good side of your video. If you had some sort of argument to enlighten the male side of an already predominantly patriarchical society, you've failed miserably before the first second ticked on the vid.
@BlueMaxx86 This video was intended to address the disingenuous propoganda surrounding the cult of feminism- the parallel is self-explanatory. Speaking of which, the term "predominantly patriarchical" is frivolous. You either have a patriarchal society (the absolute rule of men) or you don't. It is rendered meaningless by the preface "predominantly" because you are well aware that no patriarchy actually exists simply because men typically hold more positions of great responsibility.
@professorfoxtrot Also, you realize that there are different facets that make up a society, so saying "predominantly patriarchal" is saying many of the aspects of a society, right? Politics, business, religion, the arts, etc. It isn't just one stream of crap. Don't consider myself a feminist, that's someone elses call. But I do strive to be an egalitarian, and am just showing I have a grasp on a subject you vehemently don't and think you do.
"you've failed miserably before the first second ticked on the vid." I have to congratulate you on being very ironic, if only unintentionally because you essentially captured the essense of feminism in a single statement. You as a practioner of an ideology which claims to be progressive and enlightened, oppose arguments before even having heard them. Indeed, feminists don't care about things like evidence and facts, they're simply content in stewing in their contempt for men.
@professorfoxtrot Nope, the irony's that you still think you have a point & believe I've committed irony. You're missing the point of feminism as a concept. Contempt for men or "man-hating" has nothing to do with feminism. It's a progressive movement of civil rights for not only women now, but those of lesbian, gay, & trans-gendered standings. Has nothing to do with whether a person is an a-hole or not. That's personality. Every German isn't Hitler or anti-semetic.
@BlueMaxx86 On the contrary, feminism is a belief system by choice, as is anti-semetism. German is relates to those born in Germany. Feminists claim to be defendants of rights what are they fighting for exactly? What righs does a man have that a woman doesn't, or a transvestite?
@professorfoxtrot Always try to give the example of art, b/c most are knowledgeable of art, compared to more complex issues of religion & politics, & other social settings. Like movies, tv, & books I guess I'll say, most are very much so male leads. Most female leads are romance, a character appeasing a male character in the story. Those are just little things, but there're so many & must be frustrating w/just that stupid little stuff, let alone the majorly confounding things in the world.
So they don't like dick, who cares, but why this war against men? If you want a penis, there is sex change op. If you don't want a penis, well you are a lesbian, problem solved. Why don't they take some prozac (as their psycologist usually prescribe for them) and cool down?
@ninestraycats I thought my comment was rather poignant and on the mark, though possibly offensive as reality often is to many. If you have any disputes with the claims I posit, let's have it out. Let's not be vague and cry ignorance.
MEN RULE AND WOMEN SERVE!!!!!! death to feminist!!! Put women back in the kitchen and in the home with their mouths taped shut like it's suppose to be.
@billthemisogynist no one is going to listen to you and your rants. Who care if you want women to be nothing but slaves.Treat women like you do its no wonder why they leave your ass and others like you.
Feminism is not humanism. Feminism believes in group identity and rights and group offenses. Humanism believes in individual identity, rights, and offenses.
The two ideologies are incompatible. One cannot be a humanist and also be a feminists. One cannot be a feminist and also be a humanist.
@rozz669 No, feminism is feminism. Humanism is humanism. If it weren't so why would feminists bother to use the root word "feminine" without a particular and exclusive interest in women's rights exclusively. Yes, indeed, double standards are wrong!
lol. Feminism believes in group rights and group offenses. Humanism believes in individual rights and individual accountability. The two are not compatible. One cannot promote the rights of half the population while ignoring the needs of the other half and call themselves "humanist". You are a retard. Educate yourself.
@gamenode ABSOLUTELY. This is why I can not take part in the men's or women's movements though I can sympathize with some of their ideals.
Basically, don't fuck with me because I'm female or because of my ethnicity, etc. etc.
I want to be left alone. THIS is at the heart of any anti-misandrist/misogynist/racist with a brain.
Most of the women's movement is simply "give us this give us that wah wah men are evil" and most of the men's movement is "women are vile evil creatures and inferior to men"
@rozz669 if you are pro abortation why anti prostitution. it falls under the same (a) its going to happen anyway so it should be regulated (no back alley abortations- no back alley prostitutes. and (b) its the womans right to choose based on their own ability and circumstances. Also if you are liberal and therefore pro homosexual ou are a hyprocite to insult anal sex, which is alright to do to men but not women??? I am a conservative and hate abortation, prostitution and unnatural sex.
This is what happens when woman are educated. Their brains simply can not handle additional information. Their brains go pop and they end up as lesbians. Its was a mans world from the dawn of time and it will always be so. I mean , what has a women ever invented. Nothing of any worth! All they know is how to buy shoes and clothes they dont need. Listen to the way they talk when they rant - blah blah blah - worthless drival. A woman should stay at home and do the cleaning or somthing.
@OttoKrinklebottom ur ignorance is funny-there have bben plenty of cultures that were matriarchal or even men and women equal understand herstory before you utter it
@prschuster Feminism in its purest form is based on greed and opportunism and the desire to have the wealth that others have created. It is as inherently interesting as anyone who tells others how to run their own lives
@professorfoxtrot People say the same things about every political movement. Feminism is everything from the sufragette movement for voting rights to Andrea Dworkin's assault on sexually explicit literature.
What is screamingly obvious about feminism is that there are many threads to it; lots of people with vastly different beliefs call themselves feminists, so you get "feminists" arguing about what it actually means to be one. Yes, undoubtedly, the pink-haired "individualistic" woman and the man-hating female supremists are, essentially, doin' it wrong, but they don't represent all feminists. A big bunch of us are fighting for the equal rights and treatment of men and women in society.
@pddeeps Ah. I think I get what you meant now. Well, I've only come across one man-hating "feminist" who seemed to believe that the male sex is "the root of all evil". And he is a man, is even more perplexing.
@TheLostDirector Feminists are fighting for equal rights? Nevermind the basis for feminism by its core definition as the ideology for exclusive women's rights, what rights do men have that women don't? What exists is inequality of outcome and that's inevitable state when people are permitted freedom of choice.
@professorfoxtrot If you mean that it's about women fighting for women's rights only, and not also for the rights of men, then I must say I was thinking about it differently. I've come across "feminists" who want to eradicate sexism in society, but perhaps "humanist" would be a better term to equate themselves with? I think I'll have to start going with the term humanist, because I worry that others will also perceive me as worrying only about how women are mistreated :/
@professorfoxtrot Hey Prof. Foxtrot, I wanna suggest that you look into international/foreign dating. One of the ways that men such as myself are countering feminism is "boycotting" dating western women by dating foreign women. I think that when foreign/international dating becomes a household topic and when western women are lonely, feminism can then begin to dissolve from our society.
@ApollosInsight It's funny that you mention that because I'm doing just that. I'm currently living in Taiwan and the women here are amazing. Despite their beauty they carry with them humble hearts, grace and femininity, all of which is lost on your typical western girl who attempts emulate a man while balancing a spoiled princess complex. I salute you for being ahead of the curve and doing what millions of men in messy divorce settlements ought to have done.
@TheLostDirector "A big bunch of us are fighting for the equal rights and treatment of men and women in society."
For this to be true, women have to had been oppressed, which has never been true. The truth is, if any sex was oppressed in western society, it was men. Men have always been the beast of burden, while women enjoyed the relative ease of working in the house. Men have always been conscripted into dying for the country, while women shamed men into doing it. And many more examples.
@NerfDeathcoil Women have never been oppressed? There was a time when they couldn't vote, their books were not published, their art was not hung in galleries unless their fathers took credit for it. There's nothing wrong with being a housewife, but a lot of women had other ambitions and they were denied the opportunity to pursue them. I completely agree that men, too, have been oppressed, forced into boxes; society has unreasonable expectations of them. Both men AND women are subject to sexism.
Feminist are goofs! Onesided, sexist pigs, blind and backwards in their thought process. Anyone who tells me they are a feminist, I assume has mental issue.
@rmattis100 Just say that you're a male feminist and nod your head to every anti-male statement. That will guarantee you an endless supply of Feminist tail.
@feministsAreCorrupt I have a bone to pick with you... I did exactly what you did (I said I was a male feminist and nodded my head to every anti-male statement). Thanx to you, an army of feminists surrounded me and forced me to watch the Vagina Monologues while reading aloud from "The Feminine Mystique". If that wasn't bad enough, they styled my hair to look like a lesbian mullet.
@rmattis100 You must be a more convincing Feminist. Join a "Take Back the Night" and call every passing freshman male a "Rapist". If they don't respond, beat them with a sign until they confess that they are an Oppressor.
Confess made-up stories of your own rape experiences and raise both hands when the tally is taken for rape survivors. Be sure to ask pregnant women about whether they will keep their "organism." Talk about the new wage gap being below 50%.
@Retract “Go to urbandictionary, read the definition of sheep, and go fuck yourself. I win on this one.”
HA! Now you're just getting lazy because I've sufficiently demonstrated that you are a sheep. I would also add that the shepard is your wife as falling out of step might very well land you a night in the bitch-house.
That's kind of sad. 1) You've shown repeatedly that you don't understand the term sheep. 2) You've shown that you are either unwilling to unable to look it up even after I provided you the website. and 3) You prove beyond all doubt that you are completely mindless drone aka a Sheep.
Learn to think, read, and research or stop replying.
I love how this video draws in moron feminists who are incapable of constructing a rational argument, which is, of course, why they censor everyone on their pages. Dissent really smarts when everyone else is bullshitting. Good job on the upload, Professor!
Stupidest video on youtube. So 100 years ago when men rule a world we have planty sex??? Contradicting! Sexual freedom is not your achievement! You are angry because of abortions. Remember? But you male chauvinist pigs don't know about what you talking abaut. Like usually.
I'm done with both of you. You are both completely and intentional ignorant. You have no respect for women and willfully ignore the evidence of inequal treatment all around you. All reasonable argument with you falls on deaf ears as your sexist views stop you from thinking.
On the bright side, I think you two would make a lovely couple and you should hook up.Then I can support your right to get married.
@Retact Well Retact, in lieu of deciding to take your ball and run home, you call those you claim to run from as ignorant- well played. It is your credulity to feminism as a scared cow and your utterance of blanket statements such as "feminists just want equality" that will bar you from having any sort of reasonable discussion with anyone who opposes your views.
Just saw your reply. I didn't "run" from you morons. I simply have learned that some stupid, like yours, really is beyond all hope of recovery. I presented facts and you ignored them. Rather than counter with facts, you presented half-asses attempts at logic. You don't know how to have "any sort of reasonable discussion" because you reject all reason that "opposes your views."
@Retact Either you stick to the moral high road of not having petty discussions with "morons" or you don't. But what I really find interesting is that despite making these claims you're still gravitated towards coming back to tell us about it! Also, I should let you know that making comments like "you failed, because you are the perfect moron," is what is refer to as petitio principii, essentially, it is not even an argument.
Wrong, I argue with morons all the time. I'm just tired of arguing with you, for the reasons stated above. I come back here when some one replies to my comments, just to see if they want an actual debate. You obviously don't.
Reread your comment. First you accuse me of coming back to argue with you, then you point out that I wasn't arguing with you.
No, That was not "petitio principii," (aka circular logic) It was a bit ad hominem. Nice try with the Latin phrase and all.
@Retact Interesting a feminist and a masochist, apparently hasn't suffered enough defeat that he's come back for more.滿口胡柴, that's Chinese which means to bullshit endlessly and you aptly represent the hypocrisy of your cause. Gems like "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress, but feminists do tend to support female candidates" shed light on an endless stream of bullshit that is their argument for exclusive rights for women and the disingenuous accusations of discrimination.
@professorfoxtrot, you're the glutton for punishment here. Maybe you can accept that what Christians do is not necessarily what Christianity is. If you can that show that you are sane, if not there is no hope for you. Likewise, what feminists do is not necessarily what "Feminism is. That you can't accept that, is proof of what I've been saying and the reason I am sick of this debate. You are the king of all morons.
BTW: I pretty sure one must be female to be a feminist, so I don't qualify.
@Retact Comparing feminism to religion? Religions have a lot more content to interpret and read into as opposed to feminism which is just essentially a bitchfest of jealousy varying in degree of how contemptuous they are of man's excellence. By the way, Christianism (as opposed to Christianity) would be the belief system of shoving Jesus down your throat. Every christianist is a douchebag, just as every feminist is a cunt.
Actually, I was comparing a system of beliefs and philosophies to the actions of the followers of said system. Christianity and Christians, Feminism and Feminists are both good examples, as are "Liberalism and Liberals, Racism and Racists, etc. More importantly, this would have been clear to you if you had spend two seconds thinking about it.
Thank you, for once again showing everyone what a fool you are. Your views are entirely false and based on stereotypes rather than fact.
@Retact Now you're just stating the obvious as though you actually believe you've introduced a relevant point that wasn't understood. Read closer dipshit, my point is that if a belief system predicated fundamentally on jealousy and contempt it is doomed to have less than credible practitioners as there is an obvious correlation between the cause of female supremacy and its subsequent actions. When proven wrong feminists try sweep it all under the rug with, "well, that's just a stereotype."
No, that is not what you said. You said, "Comparing feminism to religion?" I wasn't, I pointed this out 'cause you clearly didn't understand my relevant point. Which was that feminists might do things because they are feminists, but those actions are not necessarily part of feminism. Which was in response to you comment from 2 days ago (starts with "Gems like")
Now that you're all caught up. Feminists aren't trying for supremacy. Feminism isn't predicated jealousy & contempt.
@Retact Actually, comparing religion with feminism was exactly what you were doing. You were comparing religion and its practitioners with feminists and its practitioners. However what you fail to understand is that having a personal belief and forcing others to accept your beliefs are two entirely different things. Feminism obviously demands the latter as it is a belief system based on absolutism based on a specific group's rights over everyone' else's
You showed your stupidity, once again. "Comparing to" and "comparing with" are very different. "Comparing feminism to religion" would be suggesting that feminism is (or is almost ) a religion. "comparing religion with feminism" is what I was doing, because "comparing with" is pointing out commonalities between the two.
You didn't respond to my point, because you know I'm right. So, you try to hide it arguing against a peripheral, AGAIN!! You lose.
@Retact Actually you were doing both as feminism is similar to a religion in many ways such as such that it is entirely based on credulity and faith. There is a religious element to absolutism. You're only further illustrating my point and how near-sighted you are when it comes to debating. The icing on the cake was when you said, "you didn't respond to my point because you know I'm right" which is exactly what you did.
@professorfoxtrot The real point I made here, which you tried to obscure and derail to discuss semantics was the all -isms are based on belief systems of priority and supremacy. They can be supremacy of ideas, doctrines and values. In the case of Feminism it is the supremacy and priority of women. Comments like "feminists aren't trying for supremacy" and "feminists just want equality" are stupid. Feminism has no end-goal and will exist as long as people like power. You're only kidding yourself.
Feminism is NOT about supremacy or priority. It is about equality. These comments are stupid, they are imple, verifiable facts.
You know nothing about feminism and should really go do some research before you continue to debate with people who actually know what they are talking about.
@Retact Ha! Au contraire. If you don't believe that the prefix "feminine" doesn't entail any bias (inequality) whatsoever then it requires no further evidence that you have your head promptly logged up your ass.. It is mostly a business created for the purpose of making money through limitations of individual freedoms. The allowance of individual liberty will always create inequality between any arbitrarily defined groups.insofar as people vary naturally. You have a lot to learn.
Feminism is all about freedom for women, individually and as a group. But, freedom and liberty are not zero sum games. Women can gain rights, protections, and freedom WITHOUT lessening those of men. These are simple facts, that you seem to have a hard time grasping. If you can't even do the research to see that this is true then you have proven that you a mindless moron who was told lies about feminism and never stopped question them. In short, you are a sheep.
@Retact "you are a sheep" HA! Who's the one endorsing groups' rights here? Who's supporting a herd under the pretense that nothing could go wrong because "they just want equality." Who's putting the ideology of a collective before individual liberty? You can't tell me that I'm a sheep and still keep a straight face. Answer this, what rights do men have in America that women don't have? The answer is none because men have equality of rights, what we don't have is equal outcome.
You Fool! Being a sheep has nothing to do with group rights or any of that other crap. (none of which, am I doing). You are a sheep, because you follow the herd without thinking.
We've already covered the lower wages issue. US companies can put it in a woman's contract that she can't to sue co-workers her rape her.
However, Feminists of today are mostly concerned with to horribly treatment of women outside the US. especially in the Middle East and certain African countries.
@Retact "Being a sheep has nothing to do with group rights or any of that other crap" You're right, being a sheep has nothing to do with following into a crowd's beliefs. Idiot. "Feminists of today are mostly concerned with to horribly treatment of women outside the US" More bullshit. Take a sample survey by glossing over feminist protests over youtube and you'll see that they're mostly about stupid shit like women posing naked in playboy and vilifying men as rapists.
Go to urbandictionary, read the definition of sheep, and go fuck yourself. I win on this one.
Porn is a minor issue as far as serious feminists are concerned and making men to be rapists is the work of misandrists, not feminists. You really have trouble remember this stuff don't ya.
Never tell some one else what they were thinking. You aren't in my head, so you can't possible know. Feminism is in no way a religion. It is based on wanting equality, not faith.
If there is any "point" you have made that I haven't responded to, please repeat it. I thought I had defeated every point you'd presented and I truly apologize if I have missed one.
@Retact You've dodged every one of my points like a coward. You've dodged the conversation about -isms and continue to show an abandonment of any understanding regarding belief systems and priority . When you make comments like "feminists just want equality" and then try to argue that fhere's a difference between practitioners and belief systems you come across as a hypocrite and a subservient apologist for a belief system that endorses your humiliation. You came begging for it and you got it.
The only conversation on -isms I noted was you misunderstanding one of my comments, I corrected you on that point.
I understand matters of priority, and have pointed out - repeatedly- that feminism isn't one of them.
When argue that there is no difference between practitioners and belief systems, and that Feminists don't just want equality, and feminism endorses the humiliation of men, you show off your ignorance, stupidity, and sexism.
@Retact You haven't corrected a single but simply resort to petty insults which seem to be self-reflective. For instance, you don't even seem to agree with yourself. You claim that feminists support the equality of women, yet you say that there's a difference between feminists and feminism only when I mention the wrongdoings of feminists (even though the ideology is built around malice which you fail to recognize) but then you turn around and say, well feminists just want equality. Bullshit.
That you fail to see how illogical your statement above is, doesn't surprise me anymore, nor does it surprise me that you have rendered yourself blind to all facts and information contrary your beliefs.
I have throughly corrected you on every point so far. My statements have been correct, but you can see that because you are a sheep.
What? You still don't think you're a sheep? Carefully reread my early comments, and list EVERY "point" that I haven't responded to.
@Retact You have corrected nothing but have chosen to ignore a whole host of claims I've made then have chosen to stick your head up your ass, smell your own farts and call it wine. I'm going to enumerate the claims you've completely dodged. 1) You ignored the hypocrisy of saying, "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress” but that they "typically vote for female candidates." 2) You ignored the fact the definition of feminism fundamentally entails bias- it''s a far cry from egalitarianism.
3) You ignored the fact that rights have obligations. You seem to believe that rights are generated out of thin air and entail no expense. You've provided 0 examples of economic "rights" that do this. 4) You generalize (falsely) that feminists in 1st world countries are mostly concerned about women around the world then accuse others of generalizing via stereotypes.. 5) You ignored the positive correlation between groups founded on contempt having contemptible practitioners.
@professorfoxtrot 6) Feminists mostly don'';t care about themselves including other women. For instance when feminists protest pornography they couldn't give a damn about the free choice of other women. Thus you also ignore the fact that feminism is constructed largely around jealous tendencies through collectivism, not individual freedoms.
6) Feminists only care about themselves and the more you open your eyes the more it becomes apparent. For instance, when feminists are protesting pornography they're even willing to infringe on other women's freedoms to satisfy their own jealousies. The idea is that feminists believe to have ownership over other women, like a copyright over their bodies if they believe what they are doing is demeaning. Supporting individual rights is about leaving people to regulate their own lives.
5) No I haven't. You were right on this point. Groups founded on hate (calling it contempt is just being wimpy) have hateful members. The Nazi's and KKK are good examples of this. You were correct, and I acknowledged the validiity of your point. (that's part of proper debate, you should try it some time.) The problem was, that you claim that Feminism and feminists are one such group. There is no hate in Feminist philosophy. If you knew jack about Feminism you would know that.
5) No, the problem is that you deny that feminism is for panhandlers and yes it is based largely on jealousy, greed and contempt for “male privilege” (which is a euphemism for asking for free shit). Feminism isn't a serious intellectual study, nor is it a philosophy, it's an ideology. Philosophy is about seeking truth, feminism has a hidden political agenda.
Oh come on! I filled are entire posts addressing most of these. Are you too stupid to read? You presented bullshit, I presented facts, you denied the facts and then pretended the presentation of the facts never happened. That is not the same as my not responding.
4) Have you ever been to a meeting of feminists? Do you keep up with the modern feminist movement? No, you haven't and you don't. I have and I do. So, you'll full of shit on this one.
4) “Have you ever been to a meeting of feminists?.... No, you haven't and you don't. I have and I do.” The only correct assumption you've made and given the last adage, the most embarrassing admission as well. As I said, you fail to address the fact that the vast majoity of feminists meetings/protests are about useless shit. Also I don't need to grab fire to know that it's a stupid idea. You haven't been to most feminist meetings, no point was made here.
@Retact 1-3) Owned."4) I don't have to go to most meetings, I FOLLOW the feminist movement over the web" That's exactly right, you "follow" the feminist movement like the good little sheep that you are. That's what sheep do, they follow. You're a sheep. Is any of this sinking in?
@Retact You are astonishingly pathetic. Here's my challenge to you bitch-boy. Find me quotes to your response to 1) You ignored the hypocrisy of saying, "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress” but that they "typically vote for female candidates." 2) You ignored the fact the definition of feminism fundamentally entails bias. 3) An example where rights don't have obligations. You've dodged this so many times because you know that I have you cornered on these subjects.
I love how your response to me demonstrating that you're sheep using your own words i.e. that you "follow" the feminist movement and your only response is that I've taken it out of context. Bullshit. The fact that you follow feminism is quite literal. Through your own insecurities you have the audacity to call me a sheep even though we both know who is wearing the wolves clothing.
I follow feminism in that I keep up-to-date on current events involving feminism and the feminist movement. If you had a brain you were willing to use you would have realized that on your own. I also follow, liberal news, conservative news, gay-rights, race-relations, Christian news, Pagan news, Muslim news, etc.
I don't want to take the time to find exact quotes, but here's some refreshers 1) I proved numerous examples of members of groups doing things because they are of that group that are not necessarily part of that groups philosophy. You responded to peripherals rather try to counter my arguments. 2) I didn't ignore your false definition of feminism. I provided you with a correct definition. You responded to peripherals rather try to counter my arguments. 3) The Right to Life.
@Retact 1) Again, feminism is not a philosophy, it's an ideology. Also, what you said was entirely contradictory. Feminism is about putting supporting women with liberal agendas. 2) You've rebuked nothing about a movement which overtly specifies it's name. To say that feminism is just about equality is like saying that Marxism is just about good government. No one should take you serious after saying something like that.
1) Now who's arguing on semantics? On top of that, you are responding to a peripheral again rather than the actual meat of the topic. Whether feminism is a philosophy or an ideology has no baring on this matter. But, that has been your only counter argument for several comments. You think my argument is contradictory, find 1 group that is doesn't apply to. 2) Feminism is about women deserving rights and treatment equal to those of men. That's where the "fem" comes from, idiot.
@Retact 1) The definition of feminism is particularly relevant and germane to the discussion unlike your attempted derailments, but yes, it is particularly offensive when a brigade of hacks attempt to pass of their agendas as education. 2) I challenged you to name me one right that women have that men don't and you've failed to come up with a single example.
1) Yes, the correct definition of feminism is very important. You don't know the correct
definition of feminism, in fact you have demonstrated several times that you know almost nothing about feminism. Arguing over if feminism is a philosophy or an ideology is like arguing over the color of an under-ripe orange (yellowish-orange or orangeish-yellow). And it is still a peripheral. I provided numerous examples that are evidence that I'm right and you're wrong, respond to those.
@Retact What you don't understand is that words have objective values. The argument that feminism refers to the equal treat of people is null because feminism literally translates to a belief system for women- and indeed it is. This should all be self-explanatory whether you agree on my views regarding feminism or not. What you're asking for is feminism to have a loaded bill of conflicting values and for people accept the bad values for agreeing with the good ones.
For instance, most reasoned people believe in equal rights and the rule of law. That doesn't make them feminists. Martin Luther King wasn't a feminist, nor was Gandhi. They were starch believers of equal rights and because of that they would never get on board with the feminist agenda. The agenda is intentionally deceptive as to encourage people who believe in equality to fight for an agenda that promotes equal outcomes for women. It's an inherently disingenuous ideology.
@Retact Neither supported feminism, only before the law. Feminists want to be praised because they are women, not based on merit. Also,you're wrong that men can't be feminists and as you can see from my video there are quite a few bottom-bitches like Michael Moore who endorse it as their cause.
@Retact Actually Michael Moore does label himself a feminist. Take a look at the feminist majority video "This is what a feminist looks like" wherein Michael Moore endorses feminism while donning a hat that says "I'm a feminist" The problem with feminists is that they don't even have consistent views with themselves or others. Feminists don't even know what feminism is but when seen from the outside it is clear that feminism is based on a psychology of greed.
Michael Moore is a humorist. In his own words. "I don't think I'm a feminist, because I don't think men can be feminists." Most likely he wore that hat half for the irony of it and half because they don't make a hat that say "I'm not a feminist but, I support their cause."
Feminist are not confused about feminism. You are.
@Retact There is no irony about wearing a hat that says "I'm a feminist" while supporting a campaign that argues that men can be feminists too. Feminists are confused about everything because they believe that wealth can be generated with by getting liberal arts degrees coupled with a propensity for bitching. I would argue that they're doing more social harm than otherwise.
Seriously? you want to make the claim that feminists are unable to get degrees in subjects other than liberal arts?
Many feminists are DOCTORS, you fool.
"a campaign that argues that men can be feminists too" Such a campaign exists? Do you have a website for it? All I've ever found on male feminists was jokes.
You're wrong. I've already given you the definition and this is just another example of you covering your eyes and pretending reality isn't there, only difference this time is that you are, once again, using assed logic to try to back up your claim. Very few '-ism's could be described as a belief system for there topic. Sexism isn't a belief system for sex, Racism isn't a belief system for race. You fool, You fool.
@Retact "Sexism isn't a belief system for sex, Racism isn't a belief system for race" Actually that's exactly what they are! Thanks for reinforcing my point. The real hilariousness comes in when feminists apply the term "equality" because claiming "equality for" and specifying a particular bias or agenda is contradictory. As long as it's phrased in this context, no one has a reason to believe anything feminists say and indeed they don't.
No, what's really funny is that you STILL think you know anything about feminism and feminists, you are dead wrong in everything you said about either and proved again your lack of ability to think for yourself or even do any research that would allow you to be even remotely informed about the topic.
How about you prove one single shred of proof for any of the crap you've been spouting off. I've provided evidence several times during this discussion, but the closest thing you've given to proof is your hair-brained attempts at logic.
@Retact That's the end of the road for feminists. They see the inequality of pay in the workforce and that's enough to conclude that is proof of discrimination against women. You actually believe this to be a valid source of evidence. Don't worry about ignoring the complexities of both how men and women function differently that would result in men being paid more. It's just easier to be the victim against an all-male conspiracy theory against women.
You dodged my challenge. I've given you facts, examples, logic, psychology, and everything but the kitchen sink as proof; and you can't provide even one piece of evidence for you're argument.
You have proven more times than I care to count that you are incapable of thinking about they things you've been told to believe. You can't think for yourself, you are a sheep. Now go back to your flock, and let your intellectual superiors deal with complicated issues like civil rights.
@Retact You're the one dodging everything I've said. I refuted you on points 1-3 and then you ducked away and completely ignored them. The only evidence you provide here are feminist talking points. For instance, when I cornered you when I called you out on the practices of businesses as having no incentive to discrimination you blamed stereotypes. That's not an example, that's not a fact, has nothing to do with psychology or logic. Your only defense is to lie by saying you've presented them.
I refuted you on all your "points" and you began arguing on peripherals because
you couldn't prove me wrong. Then we I challenged you to not argue on
peripherals, you ducked out.
Okay, let go over all of this. If I'm wrong about the passive sexism that is ingrained in our society (BTW: that's psychology), but women are being paid less than men who they are equal to in every way but gender (which you have agreed with and is a fact), then why does it happen? LOGICALLY, as...
@Retact Your rational for women being discriminated against is that businesses have no interest in whether they save or lose money in favor of discrimination and that's just bullshit. Men are better in the workplace and earn more mostly due to necessity. Men build the skylines and have laid the foundations of every society. To say that their generosity of devoting their lives towards helping their families is "oppressive" is a disgrace.
Your rational for men being paid more than their female coworker who are just as productive if not more so, is that men are always better in the workplace and that's just bullshit and it can easily disproven. "To say that their generosity of devoting their lives towards helping their families is "oppressive" is a disgrace" No one is saying that, you idiot.
@Retact You refuted absolutely nothing. But now you're arguing without providing any evidence. You have to look at it on a case-by-case basis because hear disgruntled employees all the time complaining that they're not being paid enough when it's entirely their own fault. If they're really worth what they say they are they could simply find another employer to pay them their due share. If two stores sell the same shirt and you buy from the expensive store and then blame them, you're an idiot.
"you're arguing without providing any evidence" You ignoring the evidence provided is not the same as me not providing any evidence.
" You have to look at it on a case-by-case basis" Finally, Something we can agree on. I was saying that early on, you've been that discrimination against women never happens. Maybe, you aren't too stupid to learn.
Maybe you've never worked in a professional setting, but raises and promotions get handed out and asking for them is often frowned on.
@Retact There's no evidence you've given to refute. You've brought nothing to the table then empty speculations that businesses discriminate based on equal qualifications for reasons unspecified (patriarchy? conspiracy? terrorists?). On top of that people are seldom equal in every ability they possess. Your case that women are given an unfair shake in the workplace just isn't there.
Now we're just repeating ourselves. You ignoring the evidence given is not the same as me not giving any evidence. However, I've gotten tired of repeating the same evidence (and it being repeatedly ignored), SO what evidence would you except?
I have specified the reasons, I gave YOU AS A EXAMPLE of the reasons. ctrl F "Psychology" you'll see it.
My case that women aren't being treated equally as proven time and again. You're case that men are always better, on the other hand.
0:23 lmao! hilarious!
yootesa1515 3 weeks ago
Some of these feminazis have deeper voices than I do... and I'M A MAN!
PatriotAr15 1 month ago
@PatriotAr15 You want an award for that? Maybe your balls didn't drop yet.
fmadiva 1 month ago
A quick quiz
Is feminism evil
A.Yes
B. Fuck yes and i'm so glad the author of this question took carefull consideration on how dumbass people chose the wrong answer
Ps not ansering this question will be counted as a yes. Not looking at the question will be counted as a yes. Reading the question will be counted as a yes. and losing the game will be counted as a yes WICH YOU JUST LOST BY THE WAY!
CpsLock3 2 months ago
Feminism wants’ to monopolize their equality for women cause as their battle cry. God forbid an equalist wants equality for both without some screaming harpy saying "why aren’t you a feminist we are for equality!?" They do this because they know that competition hurts their movement and they will eventually become less holier than thou to their more truthful counterpart. It’seffective for the dumb, brain-dead, and the flaming homosexual unicorns who like robot orgies .
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imscaredofcoffee 3 months ago
feminism is a blind, selfish, backward evil belief system that was in favour of one gender over another and practised sexism in almost everything it did and say. We would be better off to hunt down and imprison those that are still alive for crimes against humanity. Their ideas were influenced and brought into the world by satan to weaken the family structure and cause division and chaos in society, on this point, they achieved their goals quite well.
GTCism 3 months ago
Feminists are shooting themselves in the foot. All they are doing is creating more hatred against women with their hatred against men and their double standards.
userdetails1 4 months ago 3
@userdetails1 I think that was the point of the socially engineered movement. The guaranteed outcome was damage to normal relations between men and women to weaken the family unit, and allow the population to move one step closer to being online in a squad bay with no personal space, no identity, and no rights--just like boot camp. Can you say "government totalitarianism?" The only purpose of the "feminist" movement is to kill us--all of us--or make us slaves who would be better off dead.
EvilsOfFeminism 2 months ago
@tgillspy1 I'm a transgender male-to-female lesbian pagan vampire. WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?
ChibiGeeBee 4 months ago
@ChibiGeeBee Probably laughing his ass off at the platypus again.
MerlinsJester 2 months ago
Ok, let's back the truck up. Women are angry because we are not treated equally. Telling women to "stop whining" because we want the same rights and treatment as you do is infantile. All I saw here was "nana-nana boo-boo, I'm better then you". You made fun of young women and mothers, how does that make a point?
ChibiGeeBee 4 months ago
@ChibiGeeBee One can say "Stop whining", and it can merely mean, "stop whining". I'll go out on a limb and say that a woman has more of a tendency to read much more into things, than is certainly there. "Stop whining" does not necessarily have to mean, ""nana-nana boo-boo, I'm better then you". Please try to remain as neutral as possible.
NWKklown 3 months ago
@ChibiGeeBee Can you treat two vastly different things the same? Should you? What problems might arise, especially if these were two parts of something like "humanity?" If you were going to have "equality," we would be living in a totalitarian prison worse than hell, you fool. Dignity only comes from acknowledging male/female differences. The unisex movement and all the related crap is sick, wrong, evil, and disgusting. You don't have the right to force others into your totalitarian dream!
EvilsOfFeminism 2 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism First of all, I DON'T like being told who and what I am! YOU have no clue what I believe! As for differences, yes, men and women have them, and yet we are all also human. Human comes first, before male or female. A woman like me knows better then anybody what the differences are, and I celebrate my personal femininty every day. I don't hate men, I don't scream at every half-naked chick on commercials(I rather enjoy women), and I have no agenda. I only think you are rude.
ChibiGeeBee 2 months ago
i really hate these sort of women, there needs to be a group to oppose these fanatics.
Liam2621 5 months ago
Some handle feminism with anger some with peace. It depends on the person .. :)
missyme1995 5 months ago
@BlueMaxx86 But you still haven't shown any rights that a man posseess that a woman does not. Being forced to be equal among unequals is not a right. On the absolute contrary, a state of equality can only be brought about when unequal rights are enforced. Thus for women to be equal to men in economic terms women would have to have special and additional rights to men.
professorfoxtrot 6 months ago
I'm sorry, but what commentary did you have here? You just showed some vehement women arguing and then showed a Communist speaking about beer and using women for their pleasure as if that's the good side of your video. If you had some sort of argument to enlighten the male side of an already predominantly patriarchical society, you've failed miserably before the first second ticked on the vid.
BlueMaxx86 6 months ago
@BlueMaxx86 This video was intended to address the disingenuous propoganda surrounding the cult of feminism- the parallel is self-explanatory. Speaking of which, the term "predominantly patriarchical" is frivolous. You either have a patriarchal society (the absolute rule of men) or you don't. It is rendered meaningless by the preface "predominantly" because you are well aware that no patriarchy actually exists simply because men typically hold more positions of great responsibility.
professorfoxtrot 6 months ago 8
@professorfoxtrot Also, you realize that there are different facets that make up a society, so saying "predominantly patriarchal" is saying many of the aspects of a society, right? Politics, business, religion, the arts, etc. It isn't just one stream of crap. Don't consider myself a feminist, that's someone elses call. But I do strive to be an egalitarian, and am just showing I have a grasp on a subject you vehemently don't and think you do.
BlueMaxx86 6 months ago
"you've failed miserably before the first second ticked on the vid." I have to congratulate you on being very ironic, if only unintentionally because you essentially captured the essense of feminism in a single statement. You as a practioner of an ideology which claims to be progressive and enlightened, oppose arguments before even having heard them. Indeed, feminists don't care about things like evidence and facts, they're simply content in stewing in their contempt for men.
professorfoxtrot 6 months ago 6
@professorfoxtrot Nope, the irony's that you still think you have a point & believe I've committed irony. You're missing the point of feminism as a concept. Contempt for men or "man-hating" has nothing to do with feminism. It's a progressive movement of civil rights for not only women now, but those of lesbian, gay, & trans-gendered standings. Has nothing to do with whether a person is an a-hole or not. That's personality. Every German isn't Hitler or anti-semetic.
BlueMaxx86 6 months ago
@BlueMaxx86 On the contrary, feminism is a belief system by choice, as is anti-semetism. German is relates to those born in Germany. Feminists claim to be defendants of rights what are they fighting for exactly? What righs does a man have that a woman doesn't, or a transvestite?
professorfoxtrot 6 months ago 6
@professorfoxtrot Always try to give the example of art, b/c most are knowledgeable of art, compared to more complex issues of religion & politics, & other social settings. Like movies, tv, & books I guess I'll say, most are very much so male leads. Most female leads are romance, a character appeasing a male character in the story. Those are just little things, but there're so many & must be frustrating w/just that stupid little stuff, let alone the majorly confounding things in the world.
BlueMaxx86 6 months ago
@professorfoxtrot a right to have the final word: which a woman does not have.
NWKklown 3 months ago
@NWKklown Milk that ill-conceived ideological martyrdom a bit more, why doncha?
MerlinsJester 2 months ago
a feminist sounds like a rancid fart & feminists smell even worse. as for intelligence, well farts have a higher IQ...
misOBGYNist 7 months ago
0:23 IT'S NOT A PHASE MOM THIS IS WHO I REALLY AM
SpelKille 7 months ago 2
Question: What are these lesbians wining about?
So they don't like dick, who cares, but why this war against men? If you want a penis, there is sex change op. If you don't want a penis, well you are a lesbian, problem solved. Why don't they take some prozac (as their psycologist usually prescribe for them) and cool down?
PerfectWoman2 7 months ago
i was wondering why there were a combined 31 thumbs up for two very ignorant comments, then i looked at the demographics for this video
ninestraycats 8 months ago 2
@ninestraycats I thought my comment was rather poignant and on the mark, though possibly offensive as reality often is to many. If you have any disputes with the claims I posit, let's have it out. Let's not be vague and cry ignorance.
professorfoxtrot 8 months ago 4
So many sexism going on in America... What are you people doing in there?
andrtaker 10 months ago 3
Wow all I heard was a high shrieking sound through the whole video. I'm about to go deaf here. Anybody else getting the same thing?
fourtywpm 10 months ago
MEN RULE AND WOMEN SERVE!!!!!! death to feminist!!! Put women back in the kitchen and in the home with their mouths taped shut like it's suppose to be.
billthemisogynist 10 months ago
@billthemisogynist no one is going to listen to you and your rants. Who care if you want women to be nothing but slaves.Treat women like you do its no wonder why they leave your ass and others like you.
ashatbulaparanormal 10 months ago
@billthemisogynist This MRA IS A SPY
CpsLock3 2 months ago
@CpsLock3 huh???? me or the channel?
billthemisogynist 2 months ago
Spread them legs open far and wide,
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Volgasmetdietroep 10 months ago
equality for all, double standards are wrong
paydafee 1 year ago 4
Feminism is not humanism. Feminism believes in group identity and rights and group offenses. Humanism believes in individual identity, rights, and offenses.
The two ideologies are incompatible. One cannot be a humanist and also be a feminists. One cannot be a feminist and also be a humanist.
gamenode 1 year ago 2
@gamenode feminism is humanism
rozz669 1 year ago
@rozz669 No, feminism is feminism. Humanism is humanism. If it weren't so why would feminists bother to use the root word "feminine" without a particular and exclusive interest in women's rights exclusively. Yes, indeed, double standards are wrong!
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago 2
@rozz669
lol. Feminism believes in group rights and group offenses. Humanism believes in individual rights and individual accountability. The two are not compatible. One cannot promote the rights of half the population while ignoring the needs of the other half and call themselves "humanist". You are a retard. Educate yourself.
gamenode 1 year ago 33
@gamenode ABSOLUTELY. This is why I can not take part in the men's or women's movements though I can sympathize with some of their ideals.
Basically, don't fuck with me because I'm female or because of my ethnicity, etc. etc.
I want to be left alone. THIS is at the heart of any anti-misandrist/misogynist/racist with a brain.
Most of the women's movement is simply "give us this give us that wah wah men are evil" and most of the men's movement is "women are vile evil creatures and inferior to men"
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@rozz669 if you are pro abortation why anti prostitution. it falls under the same (a) its going to happen anyway so it should be regulated (no back alley abortations- no back alley prostitutes. and (b) its the womans right to choose based on their own ability and circumstances. Also if you are liberal and therefore pro homosexual ou are a hyprocite to insult anal sex, which is alright to do to men but not women??? I am a conservative and hate abortation, prostitution and unnatural sex.
usawarofindependence 8 months ago
This is what happens when woman are educated. Their brains simply can not handle additional information. Their brains go pop and they end up as lesbians. Its was a mans world from the dawn of time and it will always be so. I mean , what has a women ever invented. Nothing of any worth! All they know is how to buy shoes and clothes they dont need. Listen to the way they talk when they rant - blah blah blah - worthless drival. A woman should stay at home and do the cleaning or somthing.
OttoKrinklebottom 1 year ago
@OttoKrinklebottom ur ignorance is funny-there have bben plenty of cultures that were matriarchal or even men and women equal understand herstory before you utter it
rozz669 1 year ago
@rozz669 Can you elaborate more on the success of matriarchal societies and their technological contributions?
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
0:22 excellent
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
This video tells me absolutely nothing about feminism. It doesn't even give a well thought out critique of the women's movement.
prschuster 1 year ago
@prschuster Feminism in its purest form is based on greed and opportunism and the desire to have the wealth that others have created. It is as inherently interesting as anyone who tells others how to run their own lives
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago 2
@professorfoxtrot People say the same things about every political movement. Feminism is everything from the sufragette movement for voting rights to Andrea Dworkin's assault on sexually explicit literature.
prschuster 1 year ago
What is screamingly obvious about feminism is that there are many threads to it; lots of people with vastly different beliefs call themselves feminists, so you get "feminists" arguing about what it actually means to be one. Yes, undoubtedly, the pink-haired "individualistic" woman and the man-hating female supremists are, essentially, doin' it wrong, but they don't represent all feminists. A big bunch of us are fighting for the equal rights and treatment of men and women in society.
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TheLostDirector 1 year ago
@TheLostDirector thats retarded - im sure they would say you are doin it wrong.
pddeeps 1 year ago
@pddeeps I'm still learning and defining my beliefs; care to elaborate?
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TheLostDirector 1 year ago
@TheLostDirector sorry it was sarcasm, many of them would want you to even think about men.I was complimenting you..... in a weird roundabout way
pddeeps 1 year ago
@pddeeps Ah. I think I get what you meant now. Well, I've only come across one man-hating "feminist" who seemed to believe that the male sex is "the root of all evil". And he is a man, is even more perplexing.
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pddeeps 1 year ago
@TheLostDirector Feminists are fighting for equal rights? Nevermind the basis for feminism by its core definition as the ideology for exclusive women's rights, what rights do men have that women don't? What exists is inequality of outcome and that's inevitable state when people are permitted freedom of choice.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot If you mean that it's about women fighting for women's rights only, and not also for the rights of men, then I must say I was thinking about it differently. I've come across "feminists" who want to eradicate sexism in society, but perhaps "humanist" would be a better term to equate themselves with? I think I'll have to start going with the term humanist, because I worry that others will also perceive me as worrying only about how women are mistreated :/
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TheLostDirector 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot Hey Prof. Foxtrot, I wanna suggest that you look into international/foreign dating. One of the ways that men such as myself are countering feminism is "boycotting" dating western women by dating foreign women. I think that when foreign/international dating becomes a household topic and when western women are lonely, feminism can then begin to dissolve from our society.
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
@ApollosInsight It's funny that you mention that because I'm doing just that. I'm currently living in Taiwan and the women here are amazing. Despite their beauty they carry with them humble hearts, grace and femininity, all of which is lost on your typical western girl who attempts emulate a man while balancing a spoiled princess complex. I salute you for being ahead of the curve and doing what millions of men in messy divorce settlements ought to have done.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago 22
@professorfoxtrot I'm moving to Taiwan.
-.-
J0k3r4U 10 months ago
@TheLostDirector "A big bunch of us are fighting for the equal rights and treatment of men and women in society."
For this to be true, women have to had been oppressed, which has never been true. The truth is, if any sex was oppressed in western society, it was men. Men have always been the beast of burden, while women enjoyed the relative ease of working in the house. Men have always been conscripted into dying for the country, while women shamed men into doing it. And many more examples.
NerfDeathcoil 1 year ago
@NerfDeathcoil Women have never been oppressed? There was a time when they couldn't vote, their books were not published, their art was not hung in galleries unless their fathers took credit for it. There's nothing wrong with being a housewife, but a lot of women had other ambitions and they were denied the opportunity to pursue them. I completely agree that men, too, have been oppressed, forced into boxes; society has unreasonable expectations of them. Both men AND women are subject to sexism.
TheLostDirector 1 year ago
Women should keep their mouths shut, unless they're sucking cock.
TheJcp1234 1 year ago
Feminist are goofs! Onesided, sexist pigs, blind and backwards in their thought process. Anyone who tells me they are a feminist, I assume has mental issue.
GTCism 1 year ago
Bitches are fat and stank in there. They ride on the coattails of man's inventions and then pretend they are strong and independent. Stupid dykes.
FaddleonLSD 1 year ago
@FaddleonLSD love this comment.
HopeDiedScreaming 1 year ago
@HopeDiedScreaming So do i ;-)
FaddleonLSD 1 year ago
@FaddleonLSD :D
HopeDiedScreaming 1 year ago
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution.
Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage."
- Sheila Cronin (Leader of National Organization for Women, NOW)
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
0:56 made me laugh so hard XD
paydafee 1 year ago
I am all for feminism... so long as there is a free blow j*b in it for me. (Please calm down, sensitive feminists... I'm just joking around)
rmattis100 1 year ago
@rmattis100 Just say that you're a male feminist and nod your head to every anti-male statement. That will guarantee you an endless supply of Feminist tail.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@feministsAreCorrupt I have a bone to pick with you... I did exactly what you did (I said I was a male feminist and nodded my head to every anti-male statement). Thanx to you, an army of feminists surrounded me and forced me to watch the Vagina Monologues while reading aloud from "The Feminine Mystique". If that wasn't bad enough, they styled my hair to look like a lesbian mullet.
rmattis100 1 year ago
@rmattis100 You must be a more convincing Feminist. Join a "Take Back the Night" and call every passing freshman male a "Rapist". If they don't respond, beat them with a sign until they confess that they are an Oppressor.
Confess made-up stories of your own rape experiences and raise both hands when the tally is taken for rape survivors. Be sure to ask pregnant women about whether they will keep their "organism." Talk about the new wage gap being below 50%.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
this is awful.
5H1Y4N4 1 year ago
i want some of that free beer
azerty1537 1 year ago
@Retract “Go to urbandictionary, read the definition of sheep, and go fuck yourself. I win on this one.”
HA! Now you're just getting lazy because I've sufficiently demonstrated that you are a sheep. I would also add that the shepard is your wife as falling out of step might very well land you a night in the bitch-house.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
That's kind of sad. 1) You've shown repeatedly that you don't understand the term sheep. 2) You've shown that you are either unwilling to unable to look it up even after I provided you the website. and 3) You prove beyond all doubt that you are completely mindless drone aka a Sheep.
Learn to think, read, and research or stop replying.
Retact 1 year ago
I love how this video draws in moron feminists who are incapable of constructing a rational argument, which is, of course, why they censor everyone on their pages. Dissent really smarts when everyone else is bullshitting. Good job on the upload, Professor!
Lachdenan 1 year ago
why do feminists vote democrat?....because the democrat party panders to women..
johnnyboy39 1 year ago
shouldnt we all just be humanists?
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
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ilikepiesandmuffins 1 year ago
Stupidest video on youtube. So 100 years ago when men rule a world we have planty sex??? Contradicting! Sexual freedom is not your achievement! You are angry because of abortions. Remember? But you male chauvinist pigs don't know about what you talking abaut. Like usually.
ri4get 1 year ago
@ri4get This doesn't even make any sense. Care to elaborate on your insobriety? Who said anything about abortions? Is English your first language?
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago 9
I don't know if you did it on purpose but you got the ending subtitles wrong.
PashupatiFR 1 year ago
We seriously need logical arguments, here.
PashupatiFR 1 year ago
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DarthConnis9999 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot and @Yourebuying
I'm done with both of you. You are both completely and intentional ignorant. You have no respect for women and willfully ignore the evidence of inequal treatment all around you. All reasonable argument with you falls on deaf ears as your sexist views stop you from thinking.
On the bright side, I think you two would make a lovely couple and you should hook up.Then I can support your right to get married.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Well Retact, in lieu of deciding to take your ball and run home, you call those you claim to run from as ignorant- well played. It is your credulity to feminism as a scared cow and your utterance of blanket statements such as "feminists just want equality" that will bar you from having any sort of reasonable discussion with anyone who opposes your views.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Just saw your reply. I didn't "run" from you morons. I simply have learned that some stupid, like yours, really is beyond all hope of recovery. I presented facts and you ignored them. Rather than counter with facts, you presented half-asses attempts at logic. You don't know how to have "any sort of reasonable discussion" because you reject all reason that "opposes your views."
You failed, because you are the perfect moron.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Either you stick to the moral high road of not having petty discussions with "morons" or you don't. But what I really find interesting is that despite making these claims you're still gravitated towards coming back to tell us about it! Also, I should let you know that making comments like "you failed, because you are the perfect moron," is what is refer to as petitio principii, essentially, it is not even an argument.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Wrong, I argue with morons all the time. I'm just tired of arguing with you, for the reasons stated above. I come back here when some one replies to my comments, just to see if they want an actual debate. You obviously don't.
Reread your comment. First you accuse me of coming back to argue with you, then you point out that I wasn't arguing with you.
No, That was not "petitio principii," (aka circular logic) It was a bit ad hominem. Nice try with the Latin phrase and all.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Interesting a feminist and a masochist, apparently hasn't suffered enough defeat that he's come back for more.滿口胡柴, that's Chinese which means to bullshit endlessly and you aptly represent the hypocrisy of your cause. Gems like "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress, but feminists do tend to support female candidates" shed light on an endless stream of bullshit that is their argument for exclusive rights for women and the disingenuous accusations of discrimination.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot, you're the glutton for punishment here. Maybe you can accept that what Christians do is not necessarily what Christianity is. If you can that show that you are sane, if not there is no hope for you. Likewise, what feminists do is not necessarily what "Feminism is. That you can't accept that, is proof of what I've been saying and the reason I am sick of this debate. You are the king of all morons.
BTW: I pretty sure one must be female to be a feminist, so I don't qualify.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Comparing feminism to religion? Religions have a lot more content to interpret and read into as opposed to feminism which is just essentially a bitchfest of jealousy varying in degree of how contemptuous they are of man's excellence. By the way, Christianism (as opposed to Christianity) would be the belief system of shoving Jesus down your throat. Every christianist is a douchebag, just as every feminist is a cunt.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Actually, I was comparing a system of beliefs and philosophies to the actions of the followers of said system. Christianity and Christians, Feminism and Feminists are both good examples, as are "Liberalism and Liberals, Racism and Racists, etc. More importantly, this would have been clear to you if you had spend two seconds thinking about it.
Thank you, for once again showing everyone what a fool you are. Your views are entirely false and based on stereotypes rather than fact.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Now you're just stating the obvious as though you actually believe you've introduced a relevant point that wasn't understood. Read closer dipshit, my point is that if a belief system predicated fundamentally on jealousy and contempt it is doomed to have less than credible practitioners as there is an obvious correlation between the cause of female supremacy and its subsequent actions. When proven wrong feminists try sweep it all under the rug with, "well, that's just a stereotype."
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
No, that is not what you said. You said, "Comparing feminism to religion?" I wasn't, I pointed this out 'cause you clearly didn't understand my relevant point. Which was that feminists might do things because they are feminists, but those actions are not necessarily part of feminism. Which was in response to you comment from 2 days ago (starts with "Gems like")
Now that you're all caught up. Feminists aren't trying for supremacy. Feminism isn't predicated jealousy & contempt.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Actually, comparing religion with feminism was exactly what you were doing. You were comparing religion and its practitioners with feminists and its practitioners. However what you fail to understand is that having a personal belief and forcing others to accept your beliefs are two entirely different things. Feminism obviously demands the latter as it is a belief system based on absolutism based on a specific group's rights over everyone' else's
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
You showed your stupidity, once again. "Comparing to" and "comparing with" are very different. "Comparing feminism to religion" would be suggesting that feminism is (or is almost ) a religion. "comparing religion with feminism" is what I was doing, because "comparing with" is pointing out commonalities between the two.
You didn't respond to my point, because you know I'm right. So, you try to hide it arguing against a peripheral, AGAIN!! You lose.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Actually you were doing both as feminism is similar to a religion in many ways such as such that it is entirely based on credulity and faith. There is a religious element to absolutism. You're only further illustrating my point and how near-sighted you are when it comes to debating. The icing on the cake was when you said, "you didn't respond to my point because you know I'm right" which is exactly what you did.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot The real point I made here, which you tried to obscure and derail to discuss semantics was the all -isms are based on belief systems of priority and supremacy. They can be supremacy of ideas, doctrines and values. In the case of Feminism it is the supremacy and priority of women. Comments like "feminists aren't trying for supremacy" and "feminists just want equality" are stupid. Feminism has no end-goal and will exist as long as people like power. You're only kidding yourself.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Feminism is NOT about supremacy or priority. It is about equality. These comments are stupid, they are imple, verifiable facts.
You know nothing about feminism and should really go do some research before you continue to debate with people who actually know what they are talking about.
Why does feminism scare you so much?
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Ha! Au contraire. If you don't believe that the prefix "feminine" doesn't entail any bias (inequality) whatsoever then it requires no further evidence that you have your head promptly logged up your ass.. It is mostly a business created for the purpose of making money through limitations of individual freedoms. The allowance of individual liberty will always create inequality between any arbitrarily defined groups.insofar as people vary naturally. You have a lot to learn.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Feminism is all about freedom for women, individually and as a group. But, freedom and liberty are not zero sum games. Women can gain rights, protections, and freedom WITHOUT lessening those of men. These are simple facts, that you seem to have a hard time grasping. If you can't even do the research to see that this is true then you have proven that you a mindless moron who was told lies about feminism and never stopped question them. In short, you are a sheep.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact "you are a sheep" HA! Who's the one endorsing groups' rights here? Who's supporting a herd under the pretense that nothing could go wrong because "they just want equality." Who's putting the ideology of a collective before individual liberty? You can't tell me that I'm a sheep and still keep a straight face. Answer this, what rights do men have in America that women don't have? The answer is none because men have equality of rights, what we don't have is equal outcome.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
You Fool! Being a sheep has nothing to do with group rights or any of that other crap. (none of which, am I doing). You are a sheep, because you follow the herd without thinking.
We've already covered the lower wages issue. US companies can put it in a woman's contract that she can't to sue co-workers her rape her.
However, Feminists of today are mostly concerned with to horribly treatment of women outside the US. especially in the Middle East and certain African countries.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact "Being a sheep has nothing to do with group rights or any of that other crap" You're right, being a sheep has nothing to do with following into a crowd's beliefs. Idiot. "Feminists of today are mostly concerned with to horribly treatment of women outside the US" More bullshit. Take a sample survey by glossing over feminist protests over youtube and you'll see that they're mostly about stupid shit like women posing naked in playboy and vilifying men as rapists.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Go to urbandictionary, read the definition of sheep, and go fuck yourself. I win on this one.
Porn is a minor issue as far as serious feminists are concerned and making men to be rapists is the work of misandrists, not feminists. You really have trouble remember this stuff don't ya.
Watch out for the men with the clippers.
Retact 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Never tell some one else what they were thinking. You aren't in my head, so you can't possible know. Feminism is in no way a religion. It is based on wanting equality, not faith.
If there is any "point" you have made that I haven't responded to, please repeat it. I thought I had defeated every point you'd presented and I truly apologize if I have missed one.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You've dodged every one of my points like a coward. You've dodged the conversation about -isms and continue to show an abandonment of any understanding regarding belief systems and priority . When you make comments like "feminists just want equality" and then try to argue that fhere's a difference between practitioners and belief systems you come across as a hypocrite and a subservient apologist for a belief system that endorses your humiliation. You came begging for it and you got it.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
The only conversation on -isms I noted was you misunderstanding one of my comments, I corrected you on that point.
I understand matters of priority, and have pointed out - repeatedly- that feminism isn't one of them.
When argue that there is no difference between practitioners and belief systems, and that Feminists don't just want equality, and feminism endorses the humiliation of men, you show off your ignorance, stupidity, and sexism.
You being male is humiliating to men.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You haven't corrected a single but simply resort to petty insults which seem to be self-reflective. For instance, you don't even seem to agree with yourself. You claim that feminists support the equality of women, yet you say that there's a difference between feminists and feminism only when I mention the wrongdoings of feminists (even though the ideology is built around malice which you fail to recognize) but then you turn around and say, well feminists just want equality. Bullshit.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
That you fail to see how illogical your statement above is, doesn't surprise me anymore, nor does it surprise me that you have rendered yourself blind to all facts and information contrary your beliefs.
I have throughly corrected you on every point so far. My statements have been correct, but you can see that because you are a sheep.
What? You still don't think you're a sheep? Carefully reread my early comments, and list EVERY "point" that I haven't responded to.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You have corrected nothing but have chosen to ignore a whole host of claims I've made then have chosen to stick your head up your ass, smell your own farts and call it wine. I'm going to enumerate the claims you've completely dodged. 1) You ignored the hypocrisy of saying, "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress” but that they "typically vote for female candidates." 2) You ignored the fact the definition of feminism fundamentally entails bias- it''s a far cry from egalitarianism.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
3) You ignored the fact that rights have obligations. You seem to believe that rights are generated out of thin air and entail no expense. You've provided 0 examples of economic "rights" that do this. 4) You generalize (falsely) that feminists in 1st world countries are mostly concerned about women around the world then accuse others of generalizing via stereotypes.. 5) You ignored the positive correlation between groups founded on contempt having contemptible practitioners.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot 6) Feminists mostly don'';t care about themselves including other women. For instance when feminists protest pornography they couldn't give a damn about the free choice of other women. Thus you also ignore the fact that feminism is constructed largely around jealous tendencies through collectivism, not individual freedoms.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
6) Feminists only care about themselves and the more you open your eyes the more it becomes apparent. For instance, when feminists are protesting pornography they're even willing to infringe on other women's freedoms to satisfy their own jealousies. The idea is that feminists believe to have ownership over other women, like a copyright over their bodies if they believe what they are doing is demeaning. Supporting individual rights is about leaving people to regulate their own lives.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
5) No I haven't. You were right on this point. Groups founded on hate (calling it contempt is just being wimpy) have hateful members. The Nazi's and KKK are good examples of this. You were correct, and I acknowledged the validiity of your point. (that's part of proper debate, you should try it some time.) The problem was, that you claim that Feminism and feminists are one such group. There is no hate in Feminist philosophy. If you knew jack about Feminism you would know that.
Retact 1 year ago
5) No, the problem is that you deny that feminism is for panhandlers and yes it is based largely on jealousy, greed and contempt for “male privilege” (which is a euphemism for asking for free shit). Feminism isn't a serious intellectual study, nor is it a philosophy, it's an ideology. Philosophy is about seeking truth, feminism has a hidden political agenda.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@Retact Feminism has its share of hate. Just read Mary Daly or Andrea Dworkin.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Oh come on! I filled are entire posts addressing most of these. Are you too stupid to read? You presented bullshit, I presented facts, you denied the facts and then pretended the presentation of the facts never happened. That is not the same as my not responding.
4) Have you ever been to a meeting of feminists? Do you keep up with the modern feminist movement? No, you haven't and you don't. I have and I do. So, you'll full of shit on this one.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Comments 1-3.... DODGED!
4) “Have you ever been to a meeting of feminists?.... No, you haven't and you don't. I have and I do.” The only correct assumption you've made and given the last adage, the most embarrassing admission as well. As I said, you fail to address the fact that the vast majoity of feminists meetings/protests are about useless shit. Also I don't need to grab fire to know that it's a stupid idea. You haven't been to most feminist meetings, no point was made here.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
1-3) I didn't feel like repeating myself. Learn to read ass wipe.
4) I don't have to go to most meetings, I follow the feminist movement OVER THE WEB.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact 1-3) Owned."4) I don't have to go to most meetings, I FOLLOW the feminist movement over the web" That's exactly right, you "follow" the feminist movement like the good little sheep that you are. That's what sheep do, they follow. You're a sheep. Is any of this sinking in?
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
1-3) You were owned, WEEKS AGO!!
4) Way to take my comment out of context, just like the sheep of FOX news.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You are astonishingly pathetic. Here's my challenge to you bitch-boy. Find me quotes to your response to 1) You ignored the hypocrisy of saying, "Feminism isn't trying to women in to congress” but that they "typically vote for female candidates." 2) You ignored the fact the definition of feminism fundamentally entails bias. 3) An example where rights don't have obligations. You've dodged this so many times because you know that I have you cornered on these subjects.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
I love how your response to me demonstrating that you're sheep using your own words i.e. that you "follow" the feminist movement and your only response is that I've taken it out of context. Bullshit. The fact that you follow feminism is quite literal. Through your own insecurities you have the audacity to call me a sheep even though we both know who is wearing the wolves clothing.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
I follow feminism in that I keep up-to-date on current events involving feminism and the feminist movement. If you had a brain you were willing to use you would have realized that on your own. I also follow, liberal news, conservative news, gay-rights, race-relations, Christian news, Pagan news, Muslim news, etc.
I like to stay well-informed.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Do you read web pages or books by prominent Feminist authors?
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
I don't want to take the time to find exact quotes, but here's some refreshers 1) I proved numerous examples of members of groups doing things because they are of that group that are not necessarily part of that groups philosophy. You responded to peripherals rather try to counter my arguments. 2) I didn't ignore your false definition of feminism. I provided you with a correct definition. You responded to peripherals rather try to counter my arguments. 3) The Right to Life.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact 1) Again, feminism is not a philosophy, it's an ideology. Also, what you said was entirely contradictory. Feminism is about putting supporting women with liberal agendas. 2) You've rebuked nothing about a movement which overtly specifies it's name. To say that feminism is just about equality is like saying that Marxism is just about good government. No one should take you serious after saying something like that.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
1) Now who's arguing on semantics? On top of that, you are responding to a peripheral again rather than the actual meat of the topic. Whether feminism is a philosophy or an ideology has no baring on this matter. But, that has been your only counter argument for several comments. You think my argument is contradictory, find 1 group that is doesn't apply to. 2) Feminism is about women deserving rights and treatment equal to those of men. That's where the "fem" comes from, idiot.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact 1) The definition of feminism is particularly relevant and germane to the discussion unlike your attempted derailments, but yes, it is particularly offensive when a brigade of hacks attempt to pass of their agendas as education. 2) I challenged you to name me one right that women have that men don't and you've failed to come up with a single example.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
1) Yes, the correct definition of feminism is very important. You don't know the correct
definition of feminism, in fact you have demonstrated several times that you know almost nothing about feminism. Arguing over if feminism is a philosophy or an ideology is like arguing over the color of an under-ripe orange (yellowish-orange or orangeish-yellow). And it is still a peripheral. I provided numerous examples that are evidence that I'm right and you're wrong, respond to those.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact What you don't understand is that words have objective values. The argument that feminism refers to the equal treat of people is null because feminism literally translates to a belief system for women- and indeed it is. This should all be self-explanatory whether you agree on my views regarding feminism or not. What you're asking for is feminism to have a loaded bill of conflicting values and for people accept the bad values for agreeing with the good ones.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
For instance, most reasoned people believe in equal rights and the rule of law. That doesn't make them feminists. Martin Luther King wasn't a feminist, nor was Gandhi. They were starch believers of equal rights and because of that they would never get on board with the feminist agenda. The agenda is intentionally deceptive as to encourage people who believe in equality to fight for an agenda that promotes equal outcomes for women. It's an inherently disingenuous ideology.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi were MEN. They don't apply to be feminists.
Martin Luther King Jr was focused on racism, and Gandhi was focused on classism.
Both of them supported the feminist cause, but neither actively took part. Look it up.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Neither supported feminism, only before the law. Feminists want to be praised because they are women, not based on merit. Also,you're wrong that men can't be feminists and as you can see from my video there are quite a few bottom-bitches like Michael Moore who endorse it as their cause.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Read Michael Moore's autobiography. He doesn't consider himself a feminist, because he is male, you dumb shit.
"Feminists want to be praised because they are women" Wrong. They want to not be ignored for being women. Do some research and you will see that.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Actually Michael Moore does label himself a feminist. Take a look at the feminist majority video "This is what a feminist looks like" wherein Michael Moore endorses feminism while donning a hat that says "I'm a feminist" The problem with feminists is that they don't even have consistent views with themselves or others. Feminists don't even know what feminism is but when seen from the outside it is clear that feminism is based on a psychology of greed.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Michael Moore is a humorist. In his own words. "I don't think I'm a feminist, because I don't think men can be feminists." Most likely he wore that hat half for the irony of it and half because they don't make a hat that say "I'm not a feminist but, I support their cause."
Feminist are not confused about feminism. You are.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact There is no irony about wearing a hat that says "I'm a feminist" while supporting a campaign that argues that men can be feminists too. Feminists are confused about everything because they believe that wealth can be generated with by getting liberal arts degrees coupled with a propensity for bitching. I would argue that they're doing more social harm than otherwise.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Seriously? you want to make the claim that feminists are unable to get degrees in subjects other than liberal arts?
Many feminists are DOCTORS, you fool.
"a campaign that argues that men can be feminists too" Such a campaign exists? Do you have a website for it? All I've ever found on male feminists was jokes.
Retact 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot Michael Moore is preparing his female audience for his upcoming Feminist movie.
feministsAreCorrupt 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
You're wrong. I've already given you the definition and this is just another example of you covering your eyes and pretending reality isn't there, only difference this time is that you are, once again, using assed logic to try to back up your claim. Very few '-ism's could be described as a belief system for there topic. Sexism isn't a belief system for sex, Racism isn't a belief system for race. You fool, You fool.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact "Sexism isn't a belief system for sex, Racism isn't a belief system for race" Actually that's exactly what they are! Thanks for reinforcing my point. The real hilariousness comes in when feminists apply the term "equality" because claiming "equality for" and specifying a particular bias or agenda is contradictory. As long as it's phrased in this context, no one has a reason to believe anything feminists say and indeed they don't.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
No, what's really funny is that you STILL think you know anything about feminism and feminists, you are dead wrong in everything you said about either and proved again your lack of ability to think for yourself or even do any research that would allow you to be even remotely informed about the topic.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact This is just bravado. It's one thing to say that someone is wrong and another to prove it.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
How about you prove one single shred of proof for any of the crap you've been spouting off. I've provided evidence several times during this discussion, but the closest thing you've given to proof is your hair-brained attempts at logic.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact That's the end of the road for feminists. They see the inequality of pay in the workforce and that's enough to conclude that is proof of discrimination against women. You actually believe this to be a valid source of evidence. Don't worry about ignoring the complexities of both how men and women function differently that would result in men being paid more. It's just easier to be the victim against an all-male conspiracy theory against women.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
You dodged my challenge. I've given you facts, examples, logic, psychology, and everything but the kitchen sink as proof; and you can't provide even one piece of evidence for you're argument.
You have proven more times than I care to count that you are incapable of thinking about they things you've been told to believe. You can't think for yourself, you are a sheep. Now go back to your flock, and let your intellectual superiors deal with complicated issues like civil rights.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You're the one dodging everything I've said. I refuted you on points 1-3 and then you ducked away and completely ignored them. The only evidence you provide here are feminist talking points. For instance, when I cornered you when I called you out on the practices of businesses as having no incentive to discrimination you blamed stereotypes. That's not an example, that's not a fact, has nothing to do with psychology or logic. Your only defense is to lie by saying you've presented them.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
I refuted you on all your "points" and you began arguing on peripherals because
you couldn't prove me wrong. Then we I challenged you to not argue on
peripherals, you ducked out.
Okay, let go over all of this. If I'm wrong about the passive sexism that is ingrained in our society (BTW: that's psychology), but women are being paid less than men who they are equal to in every way but gender (which you have agreed with and is a fact), then why does it happen? LOGICALLY, as...
Retact 1 year ago
...there are no other reasonanle
explanations, they are being discriminated against. from
your repeated statements that woman are inferior to men you make yourself
evidence of the exact kind of sexism I've been talking about. Do you really
think that you are the only man who thinks the way you do? (if you do, look at
the other comments on this video) Lots of men think they are better than women,
and which gender do you think is more controlling positions in more businesses? (there's more)
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact Your rational for women being discriminated against is that businesses have no interest in whether they save or lose money in favor of discrimination and that's just bullshit. Men are better in the workplace and earn more mostly due to necessity. Men build the skylines and have laid the foundations of every society. To say that their generosity of devoting their lives towards helping their families is "oppressive" is a disgrace.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
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@professorfoxtrot
Your rational for men being paid more than their female coworker who are just as productive if not more so, is that men are always better in the workplace and that's just bullshit and it can easily disproven. "To say that their generosity of devoting their lives towards helping their families is "oppressive" is a disgrace" No one is saying that, you idiot.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact You refuted absolutely nothing. But now you're arguing without providing any evidence. You have to look at it on a case-by-case basis because hear disgruntled employees all the time complaining that they're not being paid enough when it's entirely their own fault. If they're really worth what they say they are they could simply find another employer to pay them their due share. If two stores sell the same shirt and you buy from the expensive store and then blame them, you're an idiot.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
"you're arguing without providing any evidence" You ignoring the evidence provided is not the same as me not providing any evidence.
" You have to look at it on a case-by-case basis" Finally, Something we can agree on. I was saying that early on, you've been that discrimination against women never happens. Maybe, you aren't too stupid to learn.
Maybe you've never worked in a professional setting, but raises and promotions get handed out and asking for them is often frowned on.
Retact 1 year ago
@Retact There's no evidence you've given to refute. You've brought nothing to the table then empty speculations that businesses discriminate based on equal qualifications for reasons unspecified (patriarchy? conspiracy? terrorists?). On top of that people are seldom equal in every ability they possess. Your case that women are given an unfair shake in the workplace just isn't there.
professorfoxtrot 1 year ago
@professorfoxtrot
Now we're just repeating ourselves. You ignoring the evidence given is not the same as me not giving any evidence. However, I've gotten tired of repeating the same evidence (and it being repeatedly ignored), SO what evidence would you except?
I have specified the reasons, I gave YOU AS A EXAMPLE of the reasons. ctrl F "Psychology" you'll see it.
My case that women aren't being treated equally as proven time and again. You're case that men are always better, on the other hand.
Retact 1 year ago