The Republicans: California's Yacht Party

[elinkfind]

Dumbocrats have run California and have for decades so whats the problem? Rinos don't count. WELCOME BACK Jerry Brown! Ha Ha Ha you are sure dumb out there! Now he can make a bigger mess than the first time. MoonBeam is back Ha Ha Ha too fucking funny!!!!!

[rwnutjob]

That's right. Tax the rich until they leave the state. That will certainly make the middle class person's life better. When a person buys a yacht, hundreds of people make a living building it, get taxed on their income, and spend it in their communities.

You can't make poor people rich by making rich people poor.

[jlegato]

Can I get one of those hats?

[Zerudah]

If you hate taxes so much, why did you vote for an illegal war?

[bodgaard]

The Democrats said they were going to end the war in Iraq if they won a majority in congress in the '06 elections. What happened to all that rhetoric? I haven't heard a thing since they got they're snout back in the trough.

[violin305]

Some people just have no idea how hard yacht owners have it.

[herotherottweiler]

im not even rich and i hate taxes. why should we tax people who earned their way up their. i would hate to be rich under your control!

[RepublicStanding]

You sound like one of those out-of-touch people who live in a gated community.

Do you take credit for the American womb you were born into?

What about the incremental achievements in technology made by hundreds of years of time an sacrifice by our ancestors? You surely could have come up with all those inventions--all on your own, right?

Roads, bridges, social safety nets? No, you don't need any of those--because they're funded by evil TAXES.

You're a moron.

[bodgaard]

Actually, they are funded by "evil" tax PAYERS........You remember them, don't you? They're the ones that pay for EVERYTHING.

By the way, most of the roads and bridges have been built by private companies.

Capitalism is the natural state of a society when people are working to take care of themselves. Don't hate people for their willingness to work - find out what they did to succeed and then pass that information along to someone who has yet to succeed. Positive influence.

[RepublicStanding]

To bodgaard:

What is the source of the payments to those private companies that build the roads and bridges of our "free"way system?

Dude, it's TAXES. Taxes aren't evil or good. They're just a tool for paying for stuff (through the administration or direct efforts of the public sector).

"Wars" on tools (like taxes, terrorism, or drugs) are wars that, by their (correct) interpretation, CANNOT be won. Tools don't fight. The people who wield them do.

[bodgaard]

"Dude", where do those taxes come from?......YOU AND ME!! Taxes DON'T EXIST without the exchange of 'service' or a 'good' between you and I, at which point the government takes a percentage with the understanding that it will be used to support our societle structure.

By the way, I said "evil taxpayer" in jest because of what I 'thought' was my 'obvious' high regard for taxpayers.

Aged electrical grids, inadequate roads, we seem to have a shortage of 'tools' for our cash outlay.........

[RepublicStanding]

I'm in an accounting partnership with 5 other partners. When some of them propose what I consider bad policies for the partnership, I do my best to convince them of their error. But this doesn't give me the power to override their votes and have everything MY WAY.

Sometimes my partners' votes outnumber mine, and the partnership spends money on things I would rather do without. If I don't like it, I suppose I could leave, but I don't want to.

Similarly, if you don't like CA, you could LEAVE.

[iomega]

those tax dodgers usually park it in Ensenada or TJ. It's a huge cottage biz.

[keenanspencer1]

i like it

[madhaus]

Right now the loophole is, take delivery of the plane or yacht outside California, keep it outside 90 days, then when you bring it in, it's a "used" vessel. You're still supposed to pay sales tax on it but nobody does. But with a new vessel, the dealer is supposed to collect the tax from you at sale.

This applies no matter where the yacht or plane was built. California marinas and airports are affected by out of state delivery & berthing.

Why tax cars but not boats & planes?

[jpkm7992]

Mission accomplished George,please just go away.

[cloudubious]

SWEET!  There's a loophole? Beneteau 473 here I come!

[mcdanieljh]

yachts and private jets should be taxed when they come here!! California is different from the other states that have loopholes for these. California has lots of coastline, so there's a bigger demand to bring a yacht here and California has a bigger population, so yachts and private jets make it more crowded and polluted, so tax em'!!!!! NO LOOPHOLES!!!

[jeraklidis]

Sail boats and yachts should be tax free. Its just that middle men bureaucrats like yourself that try to get something for nothing... Don't rain on a parade make your own.

[UTBESUX]

jeraklidis, Middle men try and GET SOMETHING? You dumb shit that money goes to fix roads and better our lives. Why don't you go sail your ass to Cuba or something. Since you are PRO-Government you wouldn't understand. What makes boat owners more special than anyone else. In your brainwashed mind they should NOT have to pay? Then you right-wingers yell about poor people getting hand outs. It's astounding to see the ignorance that flourishes with you people. Blank profile? Typical right winger!

[jeraklidis]

Money for roads? You dumb shit thats why you vote for municipal bonds. Dont confuse bonds from Luxury Tax. I'm PRO US PRO REPUBLICAN ANTI TAX. I think this whole hand out shit is bs. 90% don't really deserve it and have an air of self entitlement, are lazy, and need find a job instead of trying leach off the system just because 1 out of the many made it and wants to enjoy his/her profit. Btw the manufacturing and sales of that yacht makes more progess than giving out freebes to make more beggers

[stealth63]

I'm so tired of this stupid argument. You want to see what a country looks like with no tax money being spent on infrastructure? Go to the third world. The rich have their chauffeurs and private jets take them to the US for medical care, etc. It's the ultimate, gimee gimee, it's all mine society. Luckily, that's not here. By the way, a muni bond is a LOAN, and has to be paid back, by taxes.

[WillSmithy2567]

your a bitch okay go fuck your self go find security behind your republican party apparently you dont know how hard middle classes and lower classes have it.

[jeraklidis]

I DO KNOW HOW HARD THE MIDDLE CLASS HAVE IT. Taxing does nothing but regress. Now I do agree that there needs to be a tax system but excessive taxes like this one are problem.

[Xerock]

You're an idiot. Objectively applied sales taxes are NOT excessive.

Go suck off Ayn Rand's dead cock somewhere else.

[DisposableAccount174]

The loophole was they had to buy and keep a yacht or plane out of state for 90 days to avoid paying sales tax.

Why the hell should the state get money when someone buys or sells ANYTHING!!?? The money used to buy the vehicle is ALREADY BEEN TAXED AT LEAST ONCE VIA THE DAMNED INCOME TAX!

GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF OUR POCKETS!!

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

Why don't you get YOUR hands out of the pockets of workers and consumers, you greedy bastard?

[WickedMofo]

This is a loop hole in almost every state, it has more to do with the coast guard than state congress. Since you are able to park your boat anywhere you want.

[ronh1936]

Republicans claim that cutting taxes will actually increase revenues. Why don't California and the Feds eliminate all taxes, which should completely wipe out any deficits

[montereyan]

if only we could get these republicans to sail away, we could fix this state's troubled economy.

[oldhacks]

yea. california . strangest place on earth.

Arnolds pretty much a Democrat now.

[Wendy62]

Arnold's not enough of a Democrat. He's cutting funding for schools, instead of riding ass on these people.

[oldhacks]

Yea. It wasn't meant as a compliment. Democrats are phonies. They're owned by the same people that own the republicans

[franknyt]

Not by the ones that own Yachts apparently...?

Maybe its the ones that prefer private jets...anyway Pluralism abounds no matter who you vote for.