If woman is raped, or the baby is 100% guaranteed to be born with a life threatening deformity/defect, I think the woman should have the choice if they want to have they baby or not. If it't just "I don't want the baby" well that is what happens when you have sex.
We have to stand up for the rights of the most helpless in our society - every beating heart is alive and deserves to continue being alive. Women should have their reproductive rights protected - their right to choose whether or not they have sex. Let's focus on protecting that choice - and let every human have a change to use their potential.
Every beating heart huh? How bout deer? Which are as intelligent and more capable of suffering as a fetus if not more so. Sex is not a crime. Therefore, there is no reason someone should needlessly suffer a consequence for it. It's a woman's choice to abort and that's how it should be. Thank you supreme court for rational thought.
Why do we protect women's rights and not deers rights? The same reason we should protect the most vulnerable in our society - humans in the early stages of development.. because they are human and not animals.
Good question why don't we give a s$%& about killing deer? They feel and suffer. They experience fear. Deer however are not advocating women's rights nor do fetuses. Why you ask? Because they are uncaring perhaps? No. Because they haven't the mental capacity. I argue for women's rights because I'd hope that they'd argue for mine if the position was reversed. If my mom had an abortion it wouldn't matter to me because I wouldn't exist. People who don't exist don't worry too much.
Not ranting here but I honestly can't understand how we can justify tearing a fetus apart, limb from limb, when we know it has the capacity to feel. And this is done in the name of human rights? How can women rights groups - which traditionally has frowned upon a stronger person imposing its will on a weaker person - support tearing apart a completely defenseless human being? (DNA, heartbeat, brain activity - it is all there after 20days of pregnancy - a living human being).
So if "people who don't exist don't worry too much" - does that mean it is okay to end the life of anyone - because after all they won't care after they are dead? I'm just trying to understand your rational here.
@Tranaeh No, don't murder anyone. But, I do think once they are dead they are not going to be concerned with having died. Do you disagree? But people being concerned after they are dead about being killed is not the reason we don't murder people is it? Is it? The reason I don't murder people is because I empathize with them. I don't want to die. The thought of dieing causes me to suffer. Also the thought of my loved ones dieing causes me to suffer.
Yes, I understand that a dead person no longer worries - but why is it not okay to end the life of a 25 year old or 1 day old baby but it is okay to end the life of a preborn human who has all the same indicators of being human? I want a future so why would I assume a young child, baby or preborn would not want a future? Shouldn't I try to speak up for them if they cannot defend themselves?
So it is okay to end human life if they are in the right location and dependent on another for survival? Does that mean that it is okay for a mother to end the life of a severely disabled 2 year old because they depend on her body (working and providing food and shelter) for survival? It's her body right? If she doesn't want to feed the child, she should have the right to not work enough to provide for the child too? It seems like the same rational to me.
kausidya, your comment "Fetuses are not people.", is the dumbest thing I've ever read. You and every fetus have a complete set of chromosomes when you are a fetus. Nothing else (no DNA) is added from the point of conception (fertilization) to birth to hopefully a long productive life. Women who are pregnant with a baby (or fetus) have human babies when they give birth, never fish, never dogs, never lions, tigers nor bears. Woman who become pregnant have become pregnant with a human baby.
kausidya, If your Mom didn't choose life for you, you would not be here, you would have been murdered in the womb. However, for you, your Mom chose life. And surprise, surprise a human baby was born. Not a fish, nor other creature, you a human were born. When you or any woman has an abortion the result is a dead baby (human fetus).
kausidya, If women asked to see the ultrasound of their baby before making a decision, then at least they would be clear oin what the choice is. Do I pay to have my baby killed or do a I choose to let my baby live. Your Mom chose life for you. Choosing life for the baby (and not killimng the baby) is the only ethicaly responsible decision.
My mom also chose to have sex. Your point is out kicking it's coverage, to use a foot ball term. Do you advocate rape?! Do you advocate rape?! Answer the question!
I don't advocate rape - it is a horrific thing. But why further the violence by ending a innocent life? There are alternative choices that can help the healing process for the women - not bring more trauma.
@Tranaeh I not suggesting anyone wants violence but it seems like prolife people want to over populate the world at any cost. Even if it means forcing women to be human incubators. And if they aren't willing to be inpregnated you'd prolly force them.
@Kausidya LOL, no I don't want to force pregnancies or overpopulate the world. I think there are better ways of being a responsible world citizen than eliminating existing life in the womb. That is more violence. Countries that have taken abortion as the solution for crowding are huge human rights violators (China and forced abortion ends one life and terrorizes another). It is comparable to the atrocities committed in the slave trade - "can't feed em? throw em overboard." Its dead wrong.
@Tranaeh If a woman wants to have an abortion for whatever reason. The moral transgression is less than that of killing a cow, pig, sheep. You can argue the fetus is "Human". But, it is a human with far less thought capacity, even physical perception than the animals I listed. So, if you want to make killing these "humans" illegal you should first make it mandatory that we all become vegetarians otherwise you make it pretty obvious you have some alternate agenda.
So humans with less thought capacity than the average adult are okay to eliminate? Even if the means of elimination is by tearing apart their body limb by limb? Even the animals are treated better than that. I've had two sons now - and I know that their unique personalities are already developing in the womb. They respond to familiar sounds, and react to touch. I know they can feel and perceive what is going on around them to some degree.
@Tranaeh No. Humans with less thought capacity than a cow who don't even suffer at the level a cow can suffer are not more deserving of legal protection than a cow. You say animals are treated better than that. You should look into that because I think you are mistaken. Check out KFC's treatment of chicken. I certainly wouldn't advocate killing even a mentally retarded human being. I'm not saying therre is a line. But, if there were it would certainly be after the first trimester.
Fetuses of pregnant human woman are innocent human fetuses and they are living humans that require the care of their mothers and not the hatred of their mothers. Human fetuses have a right to life and know human baby in the womb should be sentenced to death by her mother and killed by a doctor. Killing babies in the womb is just wrong and evil.
Abortion is Murder of an Innocent Unborn Child. Now abortion is controversal because it's killing another human being who has no means of defending themselves. I'm an American and I have the Right to Life. Tim Tebow is an American and he has the Right to Life and to Free Speech. Por-aborts need to think about what they are advocating when the advocate for abortion..they have to realize that they can only argue their point because their Moms didn't abort them.
We can only argue our point because our mom's had sex. So I guess sex should be mandatory also. I genuinely feel like anti free will people such as yourself, (sometimes I call them pro-force-people-to-die-horribly-of-old-ageers but that's really long), refuse to apply thought to the things they say. All you arguments are empty and meaningless. Fetuses are not people. They are potential people. Like sperm and ovaries.
But that is not true - sperm and ovaries only have half the chromosomes it takes to create a human being. A fetus is fully human - with a complete human DNA and after 21days a beating heart. On what basis can you claim that a fetus is not human? So far I can only see that you claim that a fetus is not human because they are not as fully developed. It is like saying a 2yr old is not human because they can't do math - it doesn't change the fact they are human.
@Tranaeh Human is a word. A word that has a meaning only that we assign to it. If we define a fetus is not human than it is not human. There is nothing magical about the word human. You argument is that they have all the DNA it takes to become human. So does my blood. I guess we have to define my blood as human also. So, when I get cut I bleed human. Everytime the doctor take some blood he is committing murder of that blood er I mean human being.
I think that it is amazing that tim is standing up for what he believes in!! I don't agree with abortion and i don't know what the big deal is with tebow showing everyone what he truly believes!! GO TEBOW!!
So if Arby's was funding the commercial how would the pro-choice people complain about it then? They'd figure out a way. Agreed, O'Reilly nailed it anyway. Oh and Go Gators.
Too late. Tim Tebow already plays for the Florida Gators. He's part of the game, and has the opinion that choosing life is a good thing! Can't we agree on that?
If woman is raped, or the baby is 100% guaranteed to be born with a life threatening deformity/defect, I think the woman should have the choice if they want to have they baby or not. If it't just "I don't want the baby" well that is what happens when you have sex.
GreenNubCakes 2 months ago
Wow let her talk man its an interview...jeez
Beekster13 4 months ago
If I were Tim Tebow, I bet I'd be happy to be alive, too.
I doubt very many aborted fetuses had a chance for anything even resembling Tim Tebows life, though.
qabala 4 months ago
That Jehmoo is one ugly black woman. She needs to straighten that awful hair. I'd change my name too. Jehmoo is a hideous name
free2drm 1 year ago
Pro-choice is advertised more often than Pro-life: movies, television, magazines, etc.
Creationcreed 1 year ago
The woman is brainwashed by feminist liberals.
courthouse96 2 years ago
She is being controlled by Martians.
kausidya 2 years ago
We have to stand up for the rights of the most helpless in our society - every beating heart is alive and deserves to continue being alive. Women should have their reproductive rights protected - their right to choose whether or not they have sex. Let's focus on protecting that choice - and let every human have a change to use their potential.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
Every beating heart huh? How bout deer? Which are as intelligent and more capable of suffering as a fetus if not more so. Sex is not a crime. Therefore, there is no reason someone should needlessly suffer a consequence for it. It's a woman's choice to abort and that's how it should be. Thank you supreme court for rational thought.
kausidya 2 years ago
Why do we protect women's rights and not deers rights? The same reason we should protect the most vulnerable in our society - humans in the early stages of development.. because they are human and not animals.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
Good question why don't we give a s$%& about killing deer? They feel and suffer. They experience fear. Deer however are not advocating women's rights nor do fetuses. Why you ask? Because they are uncaring perhaps? No. Because they haven't the mental capacity. I argue for women's rights because I'd hope that they'd argue for mine if the position was reversed. If my mom had an abortion it wouldn't matter to me because I wouldn't exist. People who don't exist don't worry too much.
kausidya 2 years ago
Not ranting here but I honestly can't understand how we can justify tearing a fetus apart, limb from limb, when we know it has the capacity to feel. And this is done in the name of human rights? How can women rights groups - which traditionally has frowned upon a stronger person imposing its will on a weaker person - support tearing apart a completely defenseless human being? (DNA, heartbeat, brain activity - it is all there after 20days of pregnancy - a living human being).
Tranaeh 2 years ago
So if "people who don't exist don't worry too much" - does that mean it is okay to end the life of anyone - because after all they won't care after they are dead? I'm just trying to understand your rational here.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
@Tranaeh No, don't murder anyone. But, I do think once they are dead they are not going to be concerned with having died. Do you disagree? But people being concerned after they are dead about being killed is not the reason we don't murder people is it? Is it? The reason I don't murder people is because I empathize with them. I don't want to die. The thought of dieing causes me to suffer. Also the thought of my loved ones dieing causes me to suffer.
kausidya 2 years ago
Yes, I understand that a dead person no longer worries - but why is it not okay to end the life of a 25 year old or 1 day old baby but it is okay to end the life of a preborn human who has all the same indicators of being human? I want a future so why would I assume a young child, baby or preborn would not want a future? Shouldn't I try to speak up for them if they cannot defend themselves?
Tranaeh 2 years ago
I don't think a preborn fetus has any concept of 'future'.
kausidya 2 years ago
@kausidya - But neither does a 1year old.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
A 1 year old is not inside a woman.
kausidya 2 years ago
So it is okay to end human life if they are in the right location and dependent on another for survival? Does that mean that it is okay for a mother to end the life of a severely disabled 2 year old because they depend on her body (working and providing food and shelter) for survival? It's her body right? If she doesn't want to feed the child, she should have the right to not work enough to provide for the child too? It seems like the same rational to me.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
kausidya, your comment "Fetuses are not people.", is the dumbest thing I've ever read. You and every fetus have a complete set of chromosomes when you are a fetus. Nothing else (no DNA) is added from the point of conception (fertilization) to birth to hopefully a long productive life. Women who are pregnant with a baby (or fetus) have human babies when they give birth, never fish, never dogs, never lions, tigers nor bears. Woman who become pregnant have become pregnant with a human baby.
ChuseLife 2 years ago
I don't understand your point. I am aware humans don't give birth to fish. I don't think you are being very constructive.
kausidya 2 years ago
kausidya, Every abortion is the killing of a human fetus...a very innocent, very defenseless human baby boy or girl.
ChuseLife 2 years ago
That doesn't have the capacity to form intelligible thought or even feel pain the same we do.
kausidya 2 years ago
kausidya, If your Mom didn't choose life for you, you would not be here, you would have been murdered in the womb. However, for you, your Mom chose life. And surprise, surprise a human baby was born. Not a fish, nor other creature, you a human were born. When you or any woman has an abortion the result is a dead baby (human fetus).
ChuseLife 2 years ago
An infinite number of my mother's decisions contributed to me be born.
kausidya 2 years ago
kausidya, If women asked to see the ultrasound of their baby before making a decision, then at least they would be clear oin what the choice is. Do I pay to have my baby killed or do a I choose to let my baby live. Your Mom chose life for you. Choosing life for the baby (and not killimng the baby) is the only ethicaly responsible decision.
ChuseLife 2 years ago
My mom also chose to have sex. Your point is out kicking it's coverage, to use a foot ball term. Do you advocate rape?! Do you advocate rape?! Answer the question!
kausidya 2 years ago
I don't advocate rape - it is a horrific thing. But why further the violence by ending a innocent life? There are alternative choices that can help the healing process for the women - not bring more trauma.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
@Tranaeh I not suggesting anyone wants violence but it seems like prolife people want to over populate the world at any cost. Even if it means forcing women to be human incubators. And if they aren't willing to be inpregnated you'd prolly force them.
kausidya 2 years ago
@Kausidya LOL, no I don't want to force pregnancies or overpopulate the world. I think there are better ways of being a responsible world citizen than eliminating existing life in the womb. That is more violence. Countries that have taken abortion as the solution for crowding are huge human rights violators (China and forced abortion ends one life and terrorizes another). It is comparable to the atrocities committed in the slave trade - "can't feed em? throw em overboard." Its dead wrong.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
@Tranaeh If a woman wants to have an abortion for whatever reason. The moral transgression is less than that of killing a cow, pig, sheep. You can argue the fetus is "Human". But, it is a human with far less thought capacity, even physical perception than the animals I listed. So, if you want to make killing these "humans" illegal you should first make it mandatory that we all become vegetarians otherwise you make it pretty obvious you have some alternate agenda.
kausidya 2 years ago
So humans with less thought capacity than the average adult are okay to eliminate? Even if the means of elimination is by tearing apart their body limb by limb? Even the animals are treated better than that. I've had two sons now - and I know that their unique personalities are already developing in the womb. They respond to familiar sounds, and react to touch. I know they can feel and perceive what is going on around them to some degree.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
@Tranaeh No. Humans with less thought capacity than a cow who don't even suffer at the level a cow can suffer are not more deserving of legal protection than a cow. You say animals are treated better than that. You should look into that because I think you are mistaken. Check out KFC's treatment of chicken. I certainly wouldn't advocate killing even a mentally retarded human being. I'm not saying therre is a line. But, if there were it would certainly be after the first trimester.
kausidya 2 years ago
Fetuses of pregnant human woman are innocent human fetuses and they are living humans that require the care of their mothers and not the hatred of their mothers. Human fetuses have a right to life and know human baby in the womb should be sentenced to death by her mother and killed by a doctor. Killing babies in the womb is just wrong and evil.
ChuseLife 2 years ago
If you say so.
kausidya 2 years ago
free speach .......... for everybody that agrees with me
jasofisc 2 years ago
why is this on the suberbowl? everyone watches it. not right.
lousyacrobat 2 years ago
LEAVE THIS CRAP OUT OF THE SUPERBOWL...I dont want to hear either side of the argument during a football game
theslowevo 2 years ago
Abortion is Murder of an Innocent Unborn Child. Now abortion is controversal because it's killing another human being who has no means of defending themselves. I'm an American and I have the Right to Life. Tim Tebow is an American and he has the Right to Life and to Free Speech. Por-aborts need to think about what they are advocating when the advocate for abortion..they have to realize that they can only argue their point because their Moms didn't abort them.
ChuseLife 2 years ago
We can only argue our point because our mom's had sex. So I guess sex should be mandatory also. I genuinely feel like anti free will people such as yourself, (sometimes I call them pro-force-people-to-die-horribly-of-old-ageers but that's really long), refuse to apply thought to the things they say. All you arguments are empty and meaningless. Fetuses are not people. They are potential people. Like sperm and ovaries.
kausidya 2 years ago
But that is not true - sperm and ovaries only have half the chromosomes it takes to create a human being. A fetus is fully human - with a complete human DNA and after 21days a beating heart. On what basis can you claim that a fetus is not human? So far I can only see that you claim that a fetus is not human because they are not as fully developed. It is like saying a 2yr old is not human because they can't do math - it doesn't change the fact they are human.
Tranaeh 2 years ago
@Tranaeh Human is a word. A word that has a meaning only that we assign to it. If we define a fetus is not human than it is not human. There is nothing magical about the word human. You argument is that they have all the DNA it takes to become human. So does my blood. I guess we have to define my blood as human also. So, when I get cut I bleed human. Everytime the doctor take some blood he is committing murder of that blood er I mean human being.
kausidya 2 years ago
What do you define a human to be?
Tranaeh 2 years ago
I think that it is amazing that tim is standing up for what he believes in!! I don't agree with abortion and i don't know what the big deal is with tebow showing everyone what he truly believes!! GO TEBOW!!
doglover3678 2 years ago
It is during the superbowl!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preach it some other time. it is a buzz kill
theslowevo 2 years ago
So if Arby's was funding the commercial how would the pro-choice people complain about it then? They'd figure out a way. Agreed, O'Reilly nailed it anyway. Oh and Go Gators.
andyouf 2 years ago
That woman should watch Maafa 21 and see what abortion is doing to the African American people. You can watch it on youtube
TechMeched 2 years ago 5
Keep abortion and football apart. Please.
cool2girl27 2 years ago
They are separate. The ad is simply a commercial and is not directly affiliated with the game.
lykej 2 years ago 3
Too late. Tim Tebow already plays for the Florida Gators. He's part of the game, and has the opinion that choosing life is a good thing! Can't we agree on that?
natewilson111 2 years ago
Wow that women had absolutley no arguement bill was completly right
aroox7 2 years ago