Native Voices: Red Cloud

[TruthSurge]

any way you slice it, the American Indians got shafted by the Europeans. Damn shame. Greedy, heartless bastards. They come to a land and see nothing but gain and because they had weapons of war (being the more despicable bunch) they were able to bully them and kill them and just take the land instead of living at peace and having enough land to live on. It's a shame to think about patriotism and stars and stripes when your heritage is founded upon bloodshed.

[faithdugan49]

who hurts the land more? the indigenous people used the land properly so they used it best and now it is dying because of the way the white man uses and destroys the people, plants and animals. Look out your front door and get a clue. Now they want to genetically change the food grown and ruin it more. The world starves because we need to follow the American Indian way of life and hurt not the earth and preserve it for life to continue.

[Jayed74]

chief red cloud is my greatgreat greatgreatgreat grandpa

[djk28161]

He was a handsome sonofagun

[Onizes]

Red Cloud was nothing but a liar, a traiter and a murderer; he ordered the murder on Crazy Horses little girl, because he was nothing but a coward. He was only interested in gaining money from the white men. Cray Horses little girl did not die from white man's illness, she was poisened by Red Cloud's men! Crazy Horse

[chowder57401]

@Onizes Dude stfu you no shit and just to let you no hes my Great Great Great grandfather so shut the fuck up bitch

[PalaceOfExile]

Red Cloud was an absolute hero who wanted nothing but peace and a future for his people. It's sickening that people like him had to endure the suffering that they did.

[RNGamers]

go home and make better vids becuase this one is crap

[TeamThomasMuscle]

Im white and i am sorry for for what happened to your people and what is still happening im sure. I wish I could change it and give you all back what has been taken from you.

 sincerly, Dean

[cUiNHELLfukR]

nobody owns this lands your just a tenant GOD IS THE RIGHTFUL OWNER AND HE SAID YALL NEED TO STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOUR SELF AND THE OTHER SIDE SHOULD STOP AND HELP, CUZ WE ALL HUMANS AND EARTH IS OUR HOME... INDIANS USETO KILL INDIANS AND WHITE PPL KILL THERE OWN TOO SO NOBODY IS RIGHT OR WRONG HERE

[davidwhitecloud]

me best flute player in Lakota tribe. you buy em cd no trade for beads,cash credit card only. me need em cash,have 3 squaws and many braves to feed. whiteman take good hunting ground, need cash to go store to buy food for braves and squaws.you like em flute music you tell all to buy cd.

[eaglefeather27]

respect

[nbgtrickster]

' whiteman made many promises,more than I can remember.

they neve kept any but one; they promised to take our land

and they took it'

chief Red Cloud

[MrStudcharlie]

Red Cloud I'm Waiting for you in Placita olvera I bring the peace pipe with me

[isot714]

white man tried to exterminate us and they failed, soon it will be our turn, and we will not.

[everquestsux]

Empires rise... and fall.. different people come and go,,, wage wars.. dies,, rebirths ..build things.. that later is destroyed and forgotten deep in the sands.. and the wheel of time rolls on. indifferent to our struggles and sufferings.

[BRDfrmthafiveotree]

the white man is at it again,this time on its self, America must grumble, our people will rise again !

[judyleeverro1]

as a native i understand the anguish, but our ancestors were warned that if they did not remember God they would lose it and they lost it. read the Book of Mormon, it tells you everything about our people!

[nightcrowred]

SOOOO many things wrong with this statement... Mormons.. were amongst the first to invade OUR lands... sigh.. If Jesus and the bible were everything to these people, then WHY didnt they listen to the teachings, and abide by them? THEY killed MILLIONS of us.. DONT YOU KNOW THAT??? They're STILL taking our lands, money, and culture away.. God? They're god doesnt exist.

[MrIndianSupporter]

As long as the land is in the hands of the whites may it bring a curse to the family whose name is on the title.

[snopbear]

there is no difference between white or black or red they are the same to god the only difference between them is what they do is that good or evil . i feel respect about them and the new generation must feel proud about them .. about the european they try to kill any shape of NA in US and also Islamic civilization in Andalusia please show the human being the civilization for all the people it dosen't really mater what they color from the land of pharos snopbear(mohamed)

[SiouxSyndicate]

SANTEE, SHAWNEE, OGLALA...ONELOVE

[tscotty32]

Hi... first I would like to say that I have the deepest love & respect for our Native Americans. They are the true sons & daughters of America & forever will be. I am reading the book "Black Elk Speaks" & many times to brought tears to my eyes to read about their lives and struggles. I HATE the europeans & their greed. We could have lived in harmony with Native Americans, & learned so much from them. I take pride that I have Cherokee in my family. My heart will always and forever be with N.A.s.

[DharmaSaveTheKarma]

I can understand this. Hate is maybe not on place or nice,

but a little more respect for the native americans by european american would not be bad.

Europian,

Dharma:)))

[panchov27]

fuk u fake ass motherfukers

[panchov27]

thunderlizards a little snake bitch

[Thunderlizard2]

ozelome/pancho27...and your real world names are...what? Just so it's all clear, you are the ones making the threats on Youtube. Nice of you two cowards to "invite" me to come to you. Post your REAL names with your threats, not crap like "if u ever come to Ogallala", "come to us", yack yack, etc...

I've fed you two trolls enough. Go starve under your bridge together already.

[panchov27]

Yeah that's what I thought. You better keep it in the metaphysical sense, because in real life, you ain't shit.

[Thunderlizard2]

panchov27...you are already dead. The words you type are those of a soulless corpse screaming at the warm and living from a cold little hell which might've once been called a "life".

Pitiful...

[ozelome]

Come on Thunderlizard2. Come to us. We'll be waiting. And i don't mean leave your bitch ass body and visit us in your dreams. We'll make that shit happen for you.

[panchov27]

now u know watsup u little bitch

[panchov27]

i dont give a fuck thunderlizard2 come find me ur mom and dad will be lookin for ur headstone

[panchov27]

trace me and see wat ill do to ur ass ur ever come to ogallala NE. ill cut ur balls off and make u eat them in front of me boy. its a small town im not hard to find

[panchov27]

thunderlizard2 i wish i could meet u so i could show u just how true my words are boy

[panchov27]

ya vote my shit down anybody whos rea knows wat im talikn bout

[PvtGabeSwift]

maybe cause we want to keep our real names hidden so then we can keep ourselves safe ever thought of that and by the way ever heard of sarcasim it really does a person good to know what it is.

[Thunderlizard2]

PvtGabeSwift: "maybe cause we want to keep our real names hidden so then we can keep ourselves safe ever thought of that"

Exactly my point Miz Mangirl. You and panchov27 talk tough and make threats on the net because you THINK (falsely) you can't be traced. Yeah, I've heard of sarcasm...but not "sarcasim". Either way, some people don't take threats lightly and allow the ones making them to get off with "sarcasm" for an excuse.

EVER HEARD OF JAIL TIME FOR MAKING THREATS ON THE NET, ANNA?

[PvtGabeSwift]

Okay I'll show you how much gut I have I'm Gabreila (Gabe) Hnchl the reason why is because if you've seen on my page I'm with Civil War Reenacting so I put my reenacting name... there happy now?

I come from a backwoods family so I was pretty much born to be a tomboy seeing that the girls now days are more into shopping and drooling over boys then hunt and go mudding.

Happy now?

[Thunderlizard2]

PvtGabeSwift:

No, your name is not "Gabriella Hnchl". I actually already know your true name. Just wanted to see if you'd really show some backbone. Stop lying and post your REAL name with your threat. Come on. You said you'd join little dog barking panchov27 in kicking my brains out my ear. Are you getting cold feet now? Just like I said - GUTLESS.

[PvtGabeSwift]

Thunderlizard you're an ass I'll join you ponchov27 but you can take care of his family by yourself.

The Sioux is best known because Wild Bill Cody hired Tatonka I Yoktonka (Sitting Bull) to be one of the stars of his show that's why the Sioux is most known and how Tatonka Bill depicted them they were know to be as that.

[Thunderlizard2]

PvtGabeSqift:

Whatever, you sound as crazy and stupid as little-person-roaring panchov27. Why do you both need so many words to say NOTHING? And why does a "tomboy" like yourself have a male screen name? You're some kind of "mangirl"?

As far as your cute little threat goes, would you care to spell it out like panchov27 did AND put your "real" name to it? Have u got enough "balls" to do that, Miz Mangirl? I'll bet fat cash you're too gutless to make threats using your actual name.

[panchov27]

thunderlizard2 u are a fukin little internet tough guy. i bet you would never say that shit to somebodys face. if you said it to me face to face iwould kick your brain out your ear. then kill everybody whos related to you

[panchov27]

we shall live again one day

[joeysixtysix]

Every inch of land on the earth has been taken by force at some point or another.Its just natural and the way humans of all races are.Native Americans stole land from other tribes, the stronger tribe,army ,whatever wins.Its just the wat things are.Its been goung on since the begining of time all around the world.

[ilovebuffy100]

Chief red cloud is mt great great great great great great great grandpa. (not kidding)

[dragonusn]

On July 23, 1980, in United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Black Hills were illegally taken and that remuneration of the initial offering price plus interest — nearly $106 million — be paid. The Lakota refused the settlement, as they wanted the return of the Black Hills instead. The money remains in an interest-bearing account which now amounts to over $757 million, and in spite of their poverty the Lakota still refuse to take the money.

[dragonusn]

Last comments are from Wiki. And this is called justice. The initial sale of the land was refused. The land was then taken by armed robbery and murder and Justice is to make my people accept the offer that was refused before the crimes occurred AS COMPENSATION. Our people died rather than to walk away from this land. It would seem that our Chiefs now would rather be poor than accept this pitance and ease the White Man's concience. RETURN THE LAND, PAY COMPENSATION for the stolen gold

[dragonusn]

and allow our people to seek damages for all the centuries of mistreatment and downright murder. That would be as close to justice as anyone could come to but we all know that too many other people would have to move out of our sacred lands. Their rights will come before ours. It appears that since we have lived with this injustice for so long, it will be ours to bear forever.

[Thunderlizard2]

thats right - its called paybacks. funny you want the white mans law to help you at the same time you mock it, but i bet you dont see the irony...

[Thunderlizard2]

you return it to the crow nation then. you think the lakota got it through a fair trade agreement - no they killed the crow and conquered it. did they teach you that, mr. history expert?

[zacuan]

The Lakota refuse the money because a) the 106 million dollar price tag is reflective of 19th century land values, and b) they value their freedom more than money. If they sell, they lose the land forever. This attempt at buying out the Lakota is just a dishonest way of the U.S. trying not to pay billions of dollars in reparations as well as denying the Lakota their national sovereignty, something guaranteed them by the constitution.

[dragonusn]

Exactly. The Native Alaskans got a better deal.

Man- what ever happened to our brothers and A.I.M.? There was some serious ass kickin happenin in the 70's.

[zacuan]

Those men and women were very brave, but just as the Lakota spirit was strained at the massacre of Wounded Knee, the FBI murdered and harassed them until the movement subsided. One day a new generation of leaders will stand up against this country again, and when they do, they'll have brothers and sisters all over the continent ready to support them. The U.S. will not get away with that kind of criminal behavior again.

[drhoecker]

@zacuan ,YOUR DAY HAS COME.I AM HERE.HOPI ARE THE START.I FREELY GIVE MY LIFE TO FREE MY BROTHERS,I AM THE WHITE MAN WHO WILL CHANGE THE WORLD.I HAVE ALREADY TOOK MY WORDS TO THE PRESIDENT.THEY WILL EXECUTE ME FOR THEM.

[Thunderlizard2]

they got beat down and you arent too bright if you think they had a chance of doing much by resorting to violence in the first place.

[traslomita]

@zacuan guaranteed by the constitution?what constitution? indian constitution?or the rats constituttion?i think a rat constitutiton will never give the land back.rememeber tHE WHITTIES CONSTITUTION WAS THE 1 THAT STABLISH THE RULES N LAWS TO FUCK THEM OF, how u expect that this same constitution will give them no only ther freedom but thir land?.no conquer constitution have the right much less stablish laws to said where or how an indian can live. no u all are second hand indians PEACE

[5tonyvvvv]

@zacuan This is Legendary! Why cant we go back to the ancient ways, Its sad what the white man did to us. I cant hate them anymore. Our ancestors are with the creator now. Peace!

[Thunderlizard2]

Lakota stole the black hills from the arikara in the first place. How much they gonna pay back to the crow nation? When they gonna give it all back? Takes a thief to know a thief. lakota never paid one dime to the crow so stop all your cryin and be glad you get 757 MILLION DOLLARS. boohoohoo, you all cry so much you ought to go do your sobbing where they need rain for crops then you could actually EARN some money for honest work. there's a reason lakota had enemies, it wasn't from being "nice".

[dragonusn]

Anyone who knows the "sign" for Sioux knows its an example of their fearsome reputation. The fact that it cost the US Govt over a million dollars to kill each Sioux is another. You speak ill of this. What of the Crow? Why are their chiefs not remembered as well? Why do they not COMMAND the same respect as the Sioux? I guess if my forefathers left me such a legacy I would be bitter too.

[Thunderlizard2]

i have to laugh pretty hard over that one. you say it's brave to steal when the ones stealing are SIOUX, yet when the bigger tribe that is the U.S. takes the black hills from you, you call them thieves! hahahaha, funny little sioux, you make me laugh as hard as you and your brothers cry over their defeat by the u.s. so let me know when you get the black hills back, then we can cry a river over it like you all do and reclaim it after the flood washes the lakota out. seems fair to me.

[tatankayotaka1]

the white man should fully return to europe!!!!!

[andsoshewaits]

The truth is, we don't want them here either.

They should have never invaded that land in the first place.

I'm European, and I'm sorry.

[primitevo]

the yanks needed the support of natives, to beat natives, they got it from the brits, they`d been practising for centuries in all corners of the world. i`m glad i learned the truth about what happened to the human beings from someone who knew the real history, and not the brief run through from white history books.

[Helloween19911]

EVRYONE! Why you fighting who is right and who is wrong. Fact is the american bastards stoled indians lands! Like the end of that video clip said. ``They didn´t keep any promises exepct one. Taking our lands!´´ Think about it. And Red Cloud is my hero, because he fight not for himself. He fight because his family, home and people can be save. remember! Americans stolled their country. Never forget that.

[atreyu207]

N8IVE PRIDE!!!

[Bustereebob]

When I was a physical anthropologist we did some estimates on the genocide committed against the original inhabitants of the New World and for almost 500 years from Alaska to Chile.

More than 100,000,000.

Who remembered the other party to the Thanksgiving?

[zeroboxfive]

for those of you who are newcomers, i say "pray for knowledge, pray for guidance, pray for truth, and it will come to you." it has been said truly, "ask and you shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto you." silver birch

[baretgibot]

red cloud was a legend

we should have fought to the end

we are coming back

natives will rise

[poorrich0407]

Um how can I be a racist when I am white. The myth is your Army one not mine. Get the history correct. Next time be man/woman enough to read your emails.

[poorrich0407]

You stated that you was not going to ague about sources, yet you have. You are a racist becasue you refuse to look at all the evidence. I never ever mention nationality about whites. You brought up the American Army. I did not. I mentioned small pox blankets yes, but never mentiond who. You want to point to conflict among the tribes and not the look at the complete picture of what white men did. That includes from the moment Columbus set foot on this "NEW WORLD" to the very moment.

[poorrich0407]

Wait what that the British is white? You mean my statment about white applies and you sir ar the one twisting. Fact around 4000 cherokee during the trail of tears. Fact the navajo had a similar experence when they were forced off their land. Fact many Natives dies of starvation because the wholesale slaughter of buffalo by the WHITEMAN Fact. Stop being a racist and accept that the so called Christian leadership of this country commited all sort of crimes against humanity.

[poorrich0407]

What that the Tribe fought each other for land? DUH that is known. But the mass scale oh lets point to the Cherokee is not a "normal: thing. Today there is hard feelings among the Hopi and the Dine. My argument is that the White man committed genocide. Not on one tribe, but a whole race. Also from now on go to my CHerokee video and we can maintain this there. The argument is not fare to the owner of this video. My apology to him.

[Murz13]

yes! i've been saying that for years, genocide! The history books don't say it was genocide, but it was!

[wolverine02007]

Like how all history is written, it is written by those who have won.

Culture and ethnic grnocide has bee the fate of our Native ancestors, until there were no more left to speak the truth to the next generation... So now all we hear is the one sided stories... and we are led to beleive it as so, without hearing the other side anymore.

[poorrich0407]

REally funny coming from your sources rep.

[poorrich0407]

Lets get this straight. You brought up the US Army. I am taking of 1763 Britsh army. 18th Centry to your 19th. Lets get the fact straight. Second while Native Americans fought each other. The scale of the crimes against the tribes by the Europeans and the Americans are not comprable.

[poorrich0407]

This is my last post. Yes these are books. Books that like the one you used to prove your case. The difference is these books have references to thier works. I am not going to do your job and hunt all of it down. Second your case was the 19 centuery Us Army, My case was 1763 British army. I am not saying your wrong, becasue I have yet researched it. I will say I never knew of what your talking about with the US Armny. The documents are letters written by Amhurst.

[poorrich0407]

Thats fine. THe fact remains that there is historical evidence to back up the smallpox blankets. Maybe not the one your talking about and I cna not refute not confirm your story. I have mine. I will lokk futher into your story. I am not afraid to check out anyones references.

[poorrich0407]

I have never said there were never tribal wars. I now there were differences among the tribes. I can think of the way other tribes help push the Cherokee out. They are just as guilty as the white man. I know the meaning of some tribes mean enemy in another tribes langague, but none of that excuses what our forefathers did in the name of GOD and country.

[poorrich0407]

Well The information that you provided may or may not be factual in regard to the US army. Tell you the truth I was not aware of that story. Mine sir is based upon fact. Historical documents . THe Britsh was responsiable for the incident that I talk about. It was in 1763. One sourse that you can readily find it is wikipedia, I really do not like using this becasue of the open source. Most professors will not allow the it use a a reference.

[poorrich0407]

Here are some other resourses.

Poupard, Miller, and Granshaw, "The Use of

Smallpox as a Biological Weapon," pg 122

Parkman, The Conspiracy of Pontiac, 646-49

E.Wagner Stearn and Allen E. Stearn, The Effect of Smallpox

on the Destiny of the Amerindian

Now Id you want to get into a match of references I gaurentee you I can match you and probly better you. The evidence for this is pretty clear cut.

[poorrich0407]

mLAnd wars between the Native Americans, Compared to the wholesale slaughter be the white? The difference is they did not put each other on reservations. They did not give out blankets laced with small pox. They did not want the land for the GOld that was on it. DOn't try to confuss the issue of what the white man did to the Native Americans by bringing up tribal wars. The scale reasons and scale does not compare.

[Wiyan101]

i'm Sioux but not full there arent that many around anymore. Like back in the day wayyyyy... back

[grossmariealyssa]

i am related to chief joseph, from where the sun now stands, i will fight no more forever.

[THENR1CRONOS]

HOKAHE!!!

[gvhnagewohali]

These words are straight. But it was not "indian land" it was Lakota land. I am tsalagi, we had our land. Please do not generalize us like that. There are over 500 native tribes, each unique in culture, language, religion, and people. We are Natives, not indians. But you did get the point across, Thank you for that.

[zacuan]

I apologize for the use of that word. I honestly do not know why I chose the words "Indian" campaign instead of "Lakota" or "Sioux" campaign, but now I even avoid using the word Sioux. This is precisely the kind of feedback I need, and I'm glad my use of the offending word did not ruin the message for you.

[gvhnagewohali]

it didn't. but do you know why it is even kinda "wrong" (for lack of a better word) to call the lakota "Sioux"? It is because sioux is not a lakota word, it is an insult toward the lakota in another native language.

-Joshua

[zacuan]

You're absolutely right. I read that Sioux is a french word which translates roughly to mean "enemy", hardly a fitting term for such an advanced group of people. I realize they often refer to themselves using the word "Sioux", but its always good to know the truth and to be respectful.

[gvhnagewohali]

See I just heard it was in another language, so I assumed it was another native language. I didnt know it was french. :)

[nativechicka]

We didn't only loose our land we lost our language, what we ate, how we dressed... just about everything. I hope the president and military were satisfied...I don't have raw feelings or anything, but I just think it was wrong they went after our land for GOLD.

[chiefstands]

u should have raw feelings. america will never be our home and nothing can ever be replaced.

[nativechicka]

so your sayin we should start bein racist now? or what? Just 2 let you know I don't get like that. Yeah, nothin will be the same ever again, but that doesn't mean that you can be mean to everybody about it! We have NO CHOICE but 2 let it go now!

[nativechicka]

I'm related to him... (not closley though)

[Rumpleproofskin]

wise, humble words. One of the saddest stories of all.

[Lyecoatha]

I am so saddened and ashamed by what my ancestors have done in this country, and to add insult to injury...for the injustices that continue to this very day. It is disgraceful. More needs to be done to expose the actions of the guilty. And until we, ourselves, change what we are allowing to continue we will always be barbarians. ~Barb

[gabriellemichaela]

Well,I am half Mexican,but my white half is in total agreement with you and in complete and utter shame as well!

[redcatan]

as a relation of Red Cloud..thank you for sharing his words

[zacuan]

It was an honor.

[poorrich0407]

Losing ones culture is always wrong but to lose ones land and life doer anothers profit is a crime against humanity. The world screams at Israil being on occupied land. What do they think the United States, Canada and Mexico stands upon?

[no1cinder]

so you take a quote and make it a video with some elevator music?

[zacuan]

I have no defense for the music I choose other than I'm trying to use the most interesting royalty free music I can find. As for the quotes, I think they are very revealing. I think we are very fortunate to know what they thought and said. If we remember their words, their culture won't disappear.

[icecorescientist]

5 stars!

[gabriellemichaela]

Beautiful video-keep telling the truth-keep telling it!

[Ahwahneechee]

Great video. Thanks for putting this on so that people can see it.

[greyxwolfx]

great video thank you for sharing

[BoinkTheClown]

My video (related topic) wasnt so much about american indians as it was about "losing thier religion" from pushy christians and changing times. Thru out history one people conquers another and the "maps" are changed, happens to every peoples - deleting the native culture is what is wrong.

[tsalagiwaya]

Very powerful! We all need to remember Red Clouds words, and pass them to our children.

You did a great job on the video, keep 'em coming , many more people need to see and hear how our ancestors were treated. And still many of us are treated badly. While some of our ancestors had good reason to keep their nationality hidden! WE DO NOT! It is up to us to pass what we know along. Any thing less is dis-honoringour people.

Peace and Many Blessings

[zacuan]

I agree, you must pass along your knowledge. Many people think the native cultures are gone, but they're very much alive. In today's world of confusion, we need your guidance more than ever.

[BoneRice]

Great idea. Perfect quote. Great visuals. Well done!

[RobinRedBear]

awsome! Thank you

walk in Peace and Beauty

RobinRedBear

[xxSniperK2xx]

Very well done.... 5 stars!