The Paul Freeman Footage

[komodoman]

That's why many Indians aren't too keen on giving up this 'last secret' to the rest of America.

[DaBlackNinja1]

Most of this just depends on what you think. Even if there were a captured bigfoot, ther would still be people who called it fake. And if he was caught, what would we Americans have that is actually mysterious and the world doesn't know?

[komodoman]

Mondo, I think like Patty this one's female (with a young one), by all accounts the females are stockier than the males.

[komodoman]

Says who, you?

[300spartansrule]

@archertank2 prove it.

[jamieB4BY]

i think the movie was bigfoot and the hendersons, but the tv show was harry and the hendersons.

[187251691]

harry and the hendersons

[ElChubbaChubba]

what was the name of the movie, where a family lived with bigfoot?

[komodoman]

Clearly not 'the same specialists', stein, so your comparison is kinda pointless. So what if there's no body, is that proof they don't exist? Of course not, and especially not if we're dealing with a very humanlike being, and not some wild animal. if they're rare to begin with, good luck finding (buried) skeltons in an area much larger than England. PGF IS good clear footage, but what are the odds one will show up at your camp, and stick around for you to undoubtedly shocked find your camera.

[steinmetzify]

And as far as that Patterson footage, with all the specialists claiming " it's impossible for a human being to move in this manner! " Those same specialists told a man named Roger Bannister that if he tried to run a mile in under four minutes, he'd die. But he did just that, in 1954. Lest you think I'm doing nothing but bitching, this is entertaining. Guys running around the woods filming other guys in monkey suits. HeHe.

[BIGBENBAUMANBALLER]

they did find DNA

[steinmetzify]

This is utter foolishness. I would like to believe there could be something like this out there, but the lack of conclusive evidence sways my thinking on this. In all this time, NO ONE has ever managed to make a really good clear video of this thing? NO ONE has ever managed to shoot one? NO ONE has ever managed to find a skeleton of a dead one? Come on. Foolishness.

[JHatch65]

If you actually believe that there is a lack of conclusive evidence than you have not done any actual research on the matter. Forget for a moment about the thousands of first-hand witness accounts, pictures, sound recordings and videos - sceptics never give credence to them anyway. But there is hard scientific evidence consisting of hair, blood, and tissue (DNA), giant hand- foot prints with dermal ridges, scat, nesting sites and more. There are good books on the subject if you care to look

[GilbertSyndrome]

Funny how we have supposed DNA and still bigfoot remains a legend.......

[komodoman]

coch is fake. Yeah, we'll go on 'believing', what's it to ya... If you think they don't exist, why don't you prove they don't exist? It's not enough to believe they don't exist, you must prove that claim. Just as the other side must prove they exist, and 'we' do try. In your endeavor you might even run into one, so good luck out there proving they aren't there...

[gibstar123]

all this talk of whether to shoot a bigfoot(If it exists) or not, its simple-tranculize it, keep sedating it till people arrive, take hair ect and leave it alone to wake up.

that is if it exists of course :P

[onceANexile]

Thisis something- not knowing the author- that is totally inconclusive, though I believe in them.

[hammerofmariotos]

well there's a big debate about killing one. I guess if you did, and they found it to be of genus homo, technically, you've committed homicide by killing it, right?

[andiamo708]

I'd like to state that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But I find it funny that komodoman is in here backing bigfoot when the the above video was taken by an admitted hoaxer. Secondly, killing a Bigfoot is the only way to actually prove it's existence...wouldn't the sacrifice ultimately benefit them as a species?

[MondoBone]

The thing is... skeptics only believe what they want to believe too.

I'm open for criticism. I'm on the fence about the Freeman footage because of his past.  However the end of the video with the infant is strange. Why would he film it, and never talk abou it? That particular aspect of the film wasn't even discovered until after Paul's death.

The Patterson footage is a whole different beast though. Too much happening there to just say "hoax" without looking deeper.

[Smiter151]

Why question freeman's character? Analysis of the film is what should be done, not being a skeptic because of someone's character. Name me one person that hasn't lied, stolen, cheated, destroyed or been abusive at some point in their life...........

It's most likely Freeman never saw the infant at the time or after when reviewing the film. It's only through ANALYSIS that you can see that, not through questioning his character...........geez.

[MondoBone]

Like I said, I'm on the FENCE about the footage.

[Smiter151]

I understand and I'm not bashing your position on the footage, but using a simple magnifying glass you can get at barnes and noble for a few bucks to closely analyze the film is more constructive than questioning Freeman's character. It won't take you off the fence per say, but it will eliminate some of the reasons your on the fence. Always ask questions, it's how you learn. Having your own experience with sasquatch isn't that difficult at all, you just have to be open minded enough.

[MondoBone]

I believe they're out there.

Freeman's character does nothing for me regarding the authenticity of this video. It's just that it isn't as cut and dry for me like the Patterson/Gimlin film is.

That, and the "sasquatch" in the video is really fat. I can't see a mountain/wildman being fat, but that's just me. There have also been rumours that it was Freeman himself or his son in the suit.

Again though, I believe in their being out there.

[totalscammer]

There's a moron born everyday. And you can be sure he will believe in UFOs and Bigfoot. That's part of the bylaws of being a moron. While many will aspire to be morons by believing in this hooey, only card carrying morons are officially entitled to believe. I'm neither a card carrying moron or a moron wanna-be. My aim is to not be lumped in with morons so my M.O. is to not believe in Santa Claus and this other goofiness like Bigfoot. But there are those who do. They're the authentic morons.

[komodoman]

Ok, but stuff the tooth fairy. :-p That's exactly the reason you won't shoot too, that you don't think they exist. Seeing one would freak you out. But I'm glad to read you won't just go blamming around, hunters have seasons they have to stick to, imagine you shot one - whether they're animal or not animal - out of season. Big legal trouble. They may not officially exist, but the specimen would be right there existing for all to see, so you shot something living when you shouldn't have.

[komodoman]

You'd be scared shitless. Nobody, not even a wannabe tough guy like you would would stay calm. It's precisely types like you that are their biggest threat, why they avoid us, a guntoting mainac. What do you think these creatures are? Hair doesn't always mean animal. There's a moral barrier here not to cross, nobody except poachers shoot apes in Africa, and Bigfoot's bipedal so that makes it even more wrong to shoot at. Doesn't matter that we don't know what they are, shooting is wrong. Period.

[msawbe]

You're right about that komodoman. U don't shoot any living thing' not unless it comes down to you're survival or others u care 4.

[brownhornet71]

I agree shooting is wrong! And i don't go around thinking i'm tough, but i do know what i'm capable of doing. I enjoy going hunting. When you can find me some real proof, i would change my thinking, on putting a HOT one in Biggies chest. I know that you can't!! I bet you believe in the tooth fairy too? lol!!

[komodoman]

You're already in deep shit for being so dumb, brownhornet. Go ahead, take a shot, I can almost guarantee you no success. 1. There may be others around, which means you're in trouble. 2. They may not be much affected by it, and either run away OR attack you. If they charge for you, who can blame them. I'd just love to see you act cool then, pants full of brown sauce, and a group of 8ft. Bigfoots coming for you! It's curtains for you then, goodnight 71, we never knew you and your forest corpse.

[brownhornet71]

I wouldn't be scared. Trust me! Have you ever been hunting before? Your first time, your alittle nervous and not sure what to expect. Then you get your first kill! Small animals then you grow to larger animals!! I served with the 101st Air Assault, and i would love to see BigFoot. I'll put him down. Trust me.

[brownhornet71]

msawbe, you got to be joking with me! Your pulling my leg right? Theres no law in place for something that nobody hasn't seen yet. So i guess if i shot an alien, i'm in trouble too? You don't have to worry anymore, cause black people don't ever see Bigfoot, Yeti, or any other creature anyway. I should save money on this lawyer you talking about. LMAO!!!

[msawbe]

Yea' your right about that man' Bigfoot ain't really a black folks type of thing. I'm muiti- racial' so I guess that's my excuse' must be that little bit of native american blood in me. But hey' we're living in the time of change and I'm sure there's got to be some cryptozoology black folks out there somewhere.

And I think the state of California does have some kinda law on the books about that' even though no ones been able to prove yet that such a thing exist.

[brownhornet71]

I have native american blood in me also, but i don't think like that. TIME OF CHANGE? Don't tell me your on that Obama bandwagon jive!! The state of Cali, does not have any laws in placed. Sorry buddy!!

[brownhornet71]

Thats cool you were taken by this election!

I'm not a religious man, but even i know your suppose to put your trust in god, not man. Anyway, this isn't right to discuss this topic on this forum. I just wanted to add that. My apologies to who posted this forum.

[msawbe]

Hey' I'm a skeptic about him too.....

The same also goes 4 organize religion' but people need something to believe in to rise up in the morning' whether it be God' Allah' Buddha' Obama' or even dare I say it' Bigfoot.... lol

[komodoman]

I so agree with you on this subject, Kryder, 100%. If these creatures were hostile we'd be in real trouble, they appear to be the complete opposite, but the snobby sceptics expect a wild savage beast or caveman, and so they can't make sense of this reality. Really sad, and says so much about our society.

[msawbe]

Hey folks' u should check out the video clips posted this guy' Billy240z. who seems to have taken a Diane Fossey approach and gets right up among em. One video clip of note' Bigfoot 5968 2attemp

Pay close attention at 0:45 to 1:20 I'm still a bit of a skeptic' but more people should see this

[KryderExploration]

There is plenty of evidence, both photo and physical. The problem is we are inundated with fakes and phonies that cloud the truth. I watched 600 clips of BF vid and found 44 with some merit. I favored the more authentic looking vids on our channel. One guy has a hand in a jar that showed Odd DNA and superior bone structure and strength to a gorilla or bear, very convincing. If you have seen and been around them its easy to spot people in suits or other fakes. They move nothing like people expect

[KryderExploration]

This is one of the better videos Ive seen. We have been close to more than one of these animals over time. At night, dawn, dusk and broad daylight. We did not hunt them and never felt the need to prove they exist. I can say this. ANYONE that wants to shoot one shouldn't own or be allowed near a weapon of any kind... What are you scared of? And why shoot it? If people were tough as they were 100 years ago we would have the videos and such easy without ever thinking of shooting it.

[brownhornet71]

I think maybe in some remote country, maybe the creature may lives. Here in America, Hell No!

I just don't see a creature living here. Why is it that hunters go out video camera's and regular camera's, but no weapons. If i was out there i would shoot first, then take pictures. I really believe it's just an obsession of mankind that wants it to real.

[KryderExploration]

The animal is real and many of them live in North America. People have NO IDEA what lives out there or how much unoccupied land area the US has. If you go 10 miles off the highway it is likely you are somewhere no one has been for 100 years. People don't go way out there anymore!! I can tell you have not been in the wilderness areas of the western united states. You would have seen what we have many times. Its there you just have to get off the couch and away from the car to see anything.

[brownhornet71]

It makes for great conversation, over a nice cup of hot chocolate. I've been in alot of remote places in the US. I haven't been everywhere, but i spent alot of time hiking in the pacific northwest, where i use to live. Personally, i would shoot first, hell we americans hunt everything else, why not one bigfoot? I'll continue to think different, til some one display the real goods. It's 2008, i'm waiting!!

[KryderExploration]

I hear ya to some extent. But after personal experiences many times all I felt was empathy. They are so shy and tolerant of us i their domain. Seems like they just want to be left alone. When your around one you feel like the child, like its a wise old man. Some mean, some nice like people. They are watching us a lot more often than most would ever dream. Their whole life revolves around stealth and patience. If you search for one it will watch you looking.

[KryderExploration]

Ive learned if you want to get close and have a sighting... Do something interesting and in good nature without weapons. Go into the most rugged place you can find and sit with friends and laugh for example. They are extremely smart and intuitive and if the situation feels safe their curiosity often gets the better of them. Don't stare, don't swing your head in their direction and don't act surprised at their presence if you spot it and you'll be amazed... I'm not joking!

[brownhornet71]

KE, you sound like a person with alot of hands on experience with bigfoot. How many times have you seen this so called creature? Did you have a camera on you? What was your distance from bigfoot? What state did you see bigfoot in? I'm just curious. I've been very interested in bigfoot, yeti since i've been a little child. Theres just no real proof yet. All these sightings and no one has a legitimate pic or video. The camera has been in an existence for over 100 years. And we have nothing.

[msawbe]

Hey brownhorhornet71' u can't go to Africa' or south Asia and legally hunt 'n' shoot any kind of great ape. What make's u think if u shot a Bigfoot ( hey' I'm still a skeptic too ) and brought it to the media's attention' u wouldn't be brought up on charge's by the authority's' especially if it looked kinda human in the face? So whoever shoot's one' kills it and brings it in' they better ditch that rifle and say they just found it like that. And that's' the real world we live in today.

[brownhornet71]

I would still shoot first! You can't get in trouble if the darn thing is not on the list of untouchable animals or creatures. Bigfoot is like that popular girl in school, who looked better than everybody, dressed better than everybody, family had money. And you have a crush on her, but knowing damn well, your fantasy with her, will never come true!! Thats my analogy, on Bigfoot!

[msawbe]

Well' all I can say about that is' it would definitely put u in the news papers 'n' on TV' but you're defense lawyers would be making all the money off what u brought in.

In the end' u would end up broke.

You'd be better off if u buried it' and said nothing.

[KryderExploration]

The first one I heard scream was in 1980 in Wa. The first good sighting was in 1994, the video we posted. After that, I have seen the one we videoed perhaps 30 times and two others only once. Although, we have been close to them, heard them and found their "sign" hundreds of times. Others are probably like us, when your around them and KNOW they are there and real. You don't feel the need to prove it any more. After the one tape, I wanted to prove but after many sightings the need subsided.

[Methadone4Life]

I know the creatures exist and anyone who has ever witnessed one doesnt have a shred of doubt. I think the Freeman footage and the Patterson/Gimlin film are the two that will withstand time and scrutiny of the experts. Neither has been proven to be a hoax. Most of the time it is fairly easy to tell a man in a costume,however,for over 40 years the P/G film has withstood intense digital scrutiny. Everything from microscopes,computers and digital analysis of the walk..no one can duplicate the film.

[heatherssss]

"no one can duplicate the film."

Funny how the only people who say that are the believers. F/X experts are not impressed and say it is a man in a bad hair suit.

[dragonsidheblade]

pay no attention to heatherssss, he also hate trolls on the PGF vids as emin and is on a mission to debunk everything he can about bigfoot. I think he must have been molested by one or something. He's an atheist by admision, maybe that's it.

[KryderExploration]

Ive never heard of one scientist who has viewed ALL of the Patterson analysis and deemed it fake. They may offer "no conclusion", but all are convinced its not a costume after careful study. The persons who deem it as fake have never studied ALL the evidence available... They don't wan't to see it. I have seen people turn their heads and even shake when confronted with REAL evidence. I think it scares the shit out of them to think its "out there" while they are! Easier to pretend its not.

[dragonsidheeblade]

Yeah, and Dave Rodriquez explained it better than I've heard most while talking about eyewitnesses and their sightings. As children we're taught what's real and what's imgaination. As we grow to adulthood we continue to foster this idea in our minds of what reality is and what imagination is, so that when someone has a sighting it turns their world upside down and challenges their reality. Causes them quite a bit of distres and the scientific people are the same way.

[Waqorat]

Some people believe that Paul Freeman actually saw one in June of 1982, but in his quest to prove what he saw, he lost control of his emotions. He resorted to faking evidence to prove to people that he wasn't crazy and Bigfoot did exist. Paul Freeman couldn't stand it that people thought he was crazy.

[fantasual]

Like one other person hear mentioned already as well. It does look to be a bigfoot bent over and making a scooping motion with it's right arm like it's drinking water and what appears to be a smaller object on it's upper back near shoulders,it also turns it's head a couple of quick times towards the direction of camera while it's bent over doing what it's doing.

[ladydragonblade213]

Right, but my point is he can no more prove or disprove it than you or I can, and speculating is fine, but it can also be detrimental to the subject at hand. I treat sighting reports and historical reportings like a policeman would do taking a report, believing the witnesses statement then searching for ways to corrobarate the story. If I can't, then I just take it at face value.

[Methadone4Life]

Thats the key lady. Its funny,a eyewitness account is good enough to sentence someone to death,yet thousands upon thousands of credible eyewitness accounts can not even get mainstream science to take the subject serious. How can they call themselves scientists when they have such closed minds?

[ladydragonblade213]

Oh it's evident the world at large doesn't want to know. No one has ever put a Dian Fossey or Jane Goodall approach together on the subject of these hairy folks but that could be changing.

[ladydragonblade213]

Why though? What would upset him about it exactly?

[ladydragonblade213]

Oh yes, I've read aboriginal recountings and what they saw and lived with. I take everything at face value though as I can neither prove or disprove what they're saying, anymore than Green can.

[ladydragonblade213]

oh I'm not discrediting him on whether he believes or not. I'm discounting him as a source for stories passed down by people, particularly native americans because he doesn't see how they're possible. Yet, if you search Rex Gilroy's site of the aboriginal stories, you'll find near identical recountings of their time spent living with the Yowie in Australia. I guess stories like that to him are a shared delusion.

[ladydragonblade213]

John Green has bounced back and forth so many times on so many different recountings he's been able to aquire because he doesn't think it's possible. He's not clearly objective and discounts things with no way to prove or disprove it.

[ladydragonblade213]

Prove it was a hoax?

[pont123456789]

i dont believe in things like this but hey i respect other peoples opinions ,concrete evidence would change my mind like but is there any ? no

[ladydragonblade213]

Actually there is in the footprint casts that show dermal ridges and a midfoot flexibility where humans have an arch, but I digress.

[pont123456789]

yeah well maybe its real i dont no,i dont believe in it but got to admit it is interesting subjects like this my the mind wander

[ladydragonblade213]

Yes, it does make you wonder, but hollywood has done such a good job brainwashing us with special effects that when we see a video like this one, generally people say right away it's fake and no way to back that up. lol Ah well, live and learn I guess.

[pont123456789]

thats life you live and learn ,stranger things have happened

[sicuro75]

It looked like it was bent over with smaller one on it's back while scooping maybe water with hand drinking from what i sort of made out. Kind of Interesting.

[codzilla12]

a baby?

[pnutbutrncrackers]

I recognize the voice of Jeff Meldrum, but could someone (maybe you, HaveUSeenCreature) tell me definitively what video this clip is from? Thanks.

[joeyvader]

Your right! That is Jazzy Jeff! The clip is from 1992, and shot by the late Paul Freeman...it's here in it's entirity on youtube.

[lopli321]

Whoever said something about a 4ft Bigfoot either being lost or stolen,this could explain Patterson.The 4ft Bigfoot all grown up!

[billbroyhill]

Baby Bigfoot. There is a story that in the late 1800s a circus had a juvenile bigfoot about 4 ft tall. It was either lost or stolen off a train.

[joeyvader]

Yale B.C....Jacko as he was called by his captors...

[s66223]

ye at 0:03 jst an instant b4 0:04 the creature turns and u see it from a side on angle. u can see a shape protruding out that looks like a small head.

[godscience]

Does anyone get a boner watching these? I mean, it's not like I'm gay for Bigfoot or anything, it's just well, you know, they're so...primal. ... Besides they could be female, right? So, I'm not gay for Bigfoot, right?

Could somebody please send a message to my mailbox about this so I know to read your comment on this page? Much appreciated. When I watch these clips, I get so excited, that I start crying. My feelings go way beyond just physical desire Does anyone out there understand?

[40milesband]

No.

[jamstrat]

I saw the Freeman footage on a Bigfoot television special and that really blew my mind, it was crystal clear not all grainy and pixellated like this YouTube one.

[GoreTasm]

Hmm, very interesting, ineed. I rather like this footage. It goes to show that some people actually care about this sorta thing, and not in it to be an ass. Good job....

[simon8266]

well, he got it but he just had to fallow them in silence to their super-secret places and take real choking footage.

[s3rrated]

"follow"

"shocking"

[kapacon]

Hey simon,I don't follow you on this, but I am all choked up.:)

[joeyvader]

Why would he wanna get choked?

[sonofawindowdresser]

I didn't really see it at first, but then the more I watched the more obvious it became. You can see the head of the little one too, just as the big one is picking him/her up. This is very convincing indeed.

[komodoman]

Does look like its holding somthing, legs swinging about in the air. This is the Freeman footage, right?