ill whoop that old mans ass you can do all that shit but in a real fight anything can happen soon as he gets into hes stance ill just shoot him down and he will realize all those years of wasting time to one bullet to the brain
@SilentControl843 Yeah? Before you could pull that trigger he be kickin' your balls to space troll. People like you don't know shit about this stuff so all you do is talk and troll. Why don't you try pointin' a gun on his face and all we'll be seein' is this guy stickin' that gun barrel through your ass. Fuck off and die. Pardon the rude language but I'm simply emphasizing this asshole's mistake in his words.
@SilentControl843 Why would you think people train in martial arts only for that some day someone may try to kill them?? If you train well, realistically, from a good teacher and the style has what is needed, you will learn how to fight, how to defend. There still is so much more you can get from that years and years of training, for which you have no idea until you do it yourself.
What people don't realise it's not all about being the strongest but about the inner values learnt. Since I started karate my desire to fight has been lose to the desire to make peace and this has taken me along time to realise that, and not just karate but a whole load of the martial arts and that's what's important
@PlayRockGuitarSongs i'd only use minimal force if it meant not escalating the situation and thus not putting my self in any more risk. ie if the person is on strong drugs it's going to take a lot of pain/force before they go down and thus the risk of you getting injured is going to escalate.
@maxgunn555 I would push the person away or restrain him if he was to approach me etc. I would never fight or pound the crap out of the person. I was a 2nd degree black belt in a korean MMA, I have 8 years experience :), but generally 13 years experience in martial arts.
@kuru2k9 cool. aikido, boxing and wing chun will help you best on the street imo. aikido for if you're charged at. boxing for if it's a stationary fight with not alot of aggression. and wing chun for panic up close surprise attacks - say if you were attacked in a phone booth.
@maxgunn555 If anything, I run away from the situation. After all, live to fight another day, I rather compete in teh ring with light-contact as opposed to some UFC person who is risking his/her life by either getting head-trama or having them knock the other person out etc..
Martial arts is all about art and demonstrating control, nothing to brutal :).
@GloryB2Jesus soudesune, faiito wa bakka imasu :). (Sorry, i am to lazy to install my hiragana fonts). But I do agree with you, fights are stupid, yes idiots can get to me, but I simply shut my mouth (as always :)).
@kuru2k9 Your'e smart. Street fight can trun sideways fast. Ohers jump in, a knife, ass batton etc. Best to have Zanshin, all around awareness, and hopefully avoid the whole thing. No medicl bills, not peace officers, and no attorneys! Regards.
@maxgunn555 I mean no disrespect! If someone is on a strong drug, or serious mental illness, they likely won't drop unless they are truly incapacitated. I'm not sure what that would take because what would incapacitate even a heavy weight, likely won't be effective on them. They'll feel it later, presuming you didn't use lethal force, which still might not stop them in time to save you... I would heartily suggest getting the heck out of there at all cost, if possible, in such case. Regards
@torro454 yeah that's sort of what i meant. not escalating the fight when unneccessary. ie just run when you can. and possibly take the light hits if it means not angering the other person.
Ex: If you're fighting some guy then you might have all the confidence in the world in your Mauy Thai skills. But lets say you beat the crap out of this guy and he's ready to go down. Maybe 2 or 3 more strikes will do the trick. But just then his buddy leaps over the bar with a beer bottle and he looks pissed. You can't afford to hit the 1st guy 2 or 3 more times to finish him. You have to handle the beer bottle situation right now! (CONT)
If you had known some other art along w/ ur MT then maybe u could have finished the 1st guy sooner. Then u wouldn't have to worry about turning ur back on him. That's were all of the arts many of u idiots claim "don't work in a real fight" come in handy. So even if U knew a little Aikido, which you claim is useless, U could've broken something on the guy before U had to turn ur back on him! Or maybe a shuto from Karate could have dislocated his shoulder.
So what I'm saying is it's all about time! Yes MT can kill someone but the question is, "How long will it take?". The answer is it depends on a lot of different factors. Everyone u hit is not going to react the same way. And if another threat presents itself then u can't keep playing with this guy. U have to dispatch him right now! Then run if u have to! If you know some of these "useless arts" then maybe there's a technique in there somewhere that will drop this fool immediately.
@karatecockboy Then I guess western boxers should stop shadow boxing! Just goes to show the limitations that exist in the minds of morons like yourself.
@osensei2987 shadow boxing is a very limited part of boxing training about 10%. Karate training is mostly hitting air. This that not familiarise the student with the sensation of punching someone or something. The muscles are not trained to punch through resistance that is created by a object. Most students dont even know how to calibrate their punching and kicking according to where a target is i.e. people move around and sometime a punch may land closer or farther away from your body.
@karatecockboy I'm glad we can agree! Because we really don't disagree! LOL! To me it's about finishing moves. Karate is meant to end the fight quickly. It was never meant for ppl dancing around trying to feel out the opponent and being limited to closed fist techniques and a few kicks. After all, that's what Taekwondon't is for! ROFLMAO! While MT, Boxing, MMA and full-contact sports are great they don't have finishing moves! Look no further than UFC 117 to understand why u need finishing moves!
@osensei2987 I did ITF Taekwon-Do before Shotokan and as Shotokan is Taekwon-Do's mother style it uses all the same techniques (apart from side snap kick, not in TKD) in equal measure. Judging TKD by its sports side is like judging Karate by its sports side, which as you pointed out is a very limited version.
@micirv20 I didn't say anything about TaeKwon Do! I said TaeKwon Don't. I'm sure there must be some fighting versions of TKD out there somewhere. But most of what I see is from McDojang! HAHAHA! To tell the truth I would be compelled to gravitate toward Hapkido rather than TKD. There to many out there that seem to train for demonstrations and cultural festivals geared toward pleasing the crowd more so than combat. Hapkido is more complete IMHO!
@karatecockboy Kicks, punches, elbows and knees are devastating devices. Esp. in the hands of a professionally trained fighter. But there are ppl who can take those strikes! At least they can take them long enough to do harm back to you! Or maybe hold you off long enough to accomplish some evil aim or until their backup arrives. That's why those techniques are not finishing moves. A finishing move ends the fight instantly once landed properly 100% of the time. That is the aim of Karate.
@karatecockboy Look at Sonnen vs Silva! Sonnen grounded and pounded Silva for 5 whole rounds! Punches, elbows and all kind of shit flew! Guess what? None of that shit was a finishing move! Because just like I said, "Some ppl out there that can weather the storm!". What u gonna do on the street? Ground and pound a mofo for 23 mins? Silva on the other hand had finishing moves! One arm bar put all that shit to an end! The difference btw noob ass Wrestling and BJJ!
@osensei2987 I mean if your going to be a soccer player, you're going to have to kick the damn ball and same with any coordinated physical action wether it be sport or martial art. Karate has become weak because no one hits each other or something anymore. Sure it is great for speed,timing etc but as for developing power and conditioning and bodily kinesthetic awareness that it needs in hand to hand combat/defense. btw im a 2nd dan in shotokan and have trained relentlessly for the past 10 years.
PPL who intend on fighting train accordingly. Full contact karate fighters go at it all the time because that's what they do. But come on man don't try to put a fat ass accountant that trains only in an air conditioned dojo in front of a mirror twice a week w/ guys who train to fight! Even so, at the end of the day it's still just a sport. In the same way that MT, Boxing and Judo are still only sports. Self defense means I have to stop a guy in 3 secs. Sports fighting doesn't work like that.
@osensei2987 so what im saying is you should shut the fuck up and observe more than the art and focus on the human movements and bio mechanics of combat and not jizz in ur pants every time u see an oi zuki done up and down a dojo floor.
the person's attitude is the most important except when there is a real mismatch in skill. I used to tell my blackbelt friends that out there in the streets are folks who can kick our noses to the ground. They did not believe me. Yet when we spar and I go full blast with control (not hitting the target), they tell me I am an animal. You fight somebody with nothing to lose and you will lose because you fight not to die or get hurt. A real fight is always dirty and dangerous to all participants.
Honestly? There is much paranoia around this subject. The truth is that ppl really don't fight that often. Hell I'm 51 years old and my last real fight was in the 9th grade. I think the idea of dispatching an attacker w/ MA precision is a fantasy that ppl have and one that they have lived out over and over in their minds. If anything real ever happened they'd probably shit all over themselves! The next day they can tell their BJJ instructor that the smell drove the attacker away! LOL!
How good is brazil Jiu Jitsu against 5 men? Laying on the floor is not always optimal. and whatabout all the rules of no eye popping, grind kicking? pulling off ears etc? Mounthguards and grind protection is illusions. gives you a false sense of security. at least shotokan has kumite that has no rules except dont hurt your opponent. closest to reality you can get without going to jail for murder.
1 on 1 its OK provided: 1) the other guy knows nothing about the ground. 2) the other guy is not concealing a weapon.
The problem is that one the street you cannot be certain of what's going on. Just because you think the fight is 1 on 1 doesn't make it so. People can hide out of sight or in a crowd and pounce on you once you are tied up with your attacker. Your opponent could be concealing a weapon until the last moment giving you no chance to disarm. At least you can run if ur standing.
@osensei2987 Are you familiar with Shuri-Ryu? It is the 1st Karate brought to America in 1945 by O'sensei Robert Trias 10th Dan. He was a Middle weight boxer before learning Karate. In his curriculim Judo, Jujitsu and Boxing as well as Okinawan Karate all melded together to create Shuri-Ryu. We always fought in the Dojo to the ground where arm-bars, chokes, or Basic ground and Pound were employeed. I fought with a Machado Sensei in BJJ I put him in a Kimura in 30 seconds.We started on the floor.
@osensei2987 I am 3rd generation from O'Sensei Trias I trained with the hardest Senseis in the Shuri-System.I have a favoriet clip of a Point match between Biil "Superfoot" Wallace and a Karate- Ka who trained in our sister style Shorin-Ryu. Wallace could'nt take him and ran mostly. I have found that Muscular strength can negate many ground techniques. Weight training is essential. Shuri is a complete system. I have fought a variety of Stylists and I have never been stymied by other fighters.
@osensei2987 Shuri has elements of Hsing Yi chuan and White Crane Gung fu. Krav Maga borrows the Dragon Form or "Floating" They call it " Bursting" To break it down Gravity is employeed in Shuri as well as BODY Momentem and timing. Our Punches knock you off your feet. Similar to Shotokan but with more circular attacks. and Okinawan Bunkai vs Japanese Bunkai. example. The basic Low Punch in Shuri is really an Arm break. so is the Middle Block. Sweeps R our specialty.
there is no best system. Its just how hard you train. Still karate is a vrey effective defensive sport. Jiu jitsu is to much on the ground. Useless against groups
@BluePittbull666 Theres no best system, and if there is one, it certainly isn't the gracie's, a lot of ground work, but the stand up grappling is a problem, and I barely see strikes thrown by a BJJ fighter, or atleast quality strikes, and by the way, Gracies didn't even study Jiu Jutsu, they were taught Judo, by a Judoka.
Yes! You are quite correct. If we study the history of martial arts, we are at some point going to have to revisit the Shaolin Temple. The monks did not just study one style. Rather they had a complete curriculum. Therefore a Shaolin Monk was able to strike use weapons and wrestle. All of these skills became separated and became individual arts that ppl "specialized" in. But in the beginning this was not so. Therefore one must learn multiple styles to be effective and cover all their bases.
@osensei2987 Yes indeed, all asian martial arts can be traced to the Shaolin temples, only the close-mindedness of men had seperated the concepts of striking and grappling, believing one is better than the other, when in fact, they are parts of fighting that should not be seperated, because the well rounded fighter, is the ultimate fighter.
@BluePittbull666 dude Ive been w/ the marines for 7 years and all that grappling crap is no good in a real fight were there are no rules. Ive learned all sort of stuff including BJJ and krav maga, theones that actually worked are the Traditional arts like Karate and Kali, when it gets down and dirty I just punch the throat or spearhand an eyeball and if someone tackles me I take a step back and hammer the jugular.And besides Karate is beyond fighting its about self perfection in character
@Kaisertoji I applaud you for your answer and your years of service! Thank you, what a great answer from an authority on the subject-a warrior. I especially enjoyed the last sentence. I have been training in Shotokan for over 2 years now, and LOVE it...Oss or should I say Semper Fi
@eckliquink I'm w/ the Philippine marines force recon, semper-fi american brother, MMA is all good, got nothing against it. but when your fighting communist rebels or muslim separatists, it has to be downright brutal and nothing beats a good ol nukite; the techniques you dont use in tournaments even in the UFC. But I'd rather reason out w/ my bros rather than cap them in the head.
@Kaisertoji Hey man! I wanna see some guy try to grapple one of your brothers from Silat, Kali or Punantukan that's swinging a stick or a blade or a stick and a blade or machete! LOL!
@osensei2987 Most grapplers (BJJ) have this idea that if they get close to you, there is nothing you can do. In kali and panununtukan there are grappling involve as well as anti grappling techniques as well. I remember one time when an MP had to deal w/ some unruly US marines, one of them tried to tackle him down. The MP simply assumed a forward stance and struck him at the back of the head w/ the butt of his batton. I guess that's so much for wrestling or BJJ.
@BluePittbull666 BJJ is what it is. None of these guys are fighters. What are you kidding me? There more reason than fighting to study MA. That's something that you arrogant MMA instructor has apparently never taught you while he was convincing you that he was turning you into a SUPERMAN! But the sad fact is in MMA more and more fights are ending by standing knock out. BJJ is starting to fail in competition because everybody knows that shit now. The advantage is no longer there. So STFU!
@BluePittbull666 Fuck a Garcie! The Gracie are getting their asses kicked nowadays. Why? For the same reason that stand up fighters got their asses kicked in the early UFC. They have limitations and are one dimensional fighters. In the old days stand up fighters lost because they had no ground. Today ground fighters are losing because they have no stand up. So we've come full circle. Stop being a fan boy & finally come to the realization that u have to be a complete fighter! You need both!
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If you watch MMA too much you might think street fight is like that. But I agreed with all the lawsuits and laws here in Canada/USA, kill or injured someone even if you are defending yourself still get you in jail some how. To really defend youself you mus be prepare to really really hurt the other guy and go for the vital points and then RUNNNNNN... If you carry the fight on for even 30secons you'll be out of breath not to mention if other gang up on you as well.
Nah, self defence isn't about training to kill or seriously hurt someone if you want a martial art like that go for capoeira or taekwondo... Martial arts like karate, ju jitsu, aikedo etc are about stopping the guy from attacking you. punching people like say in the throat or groin is uncalled for a lot of the times.
And you won't be out of breath if you've trained properly lol.
My first martial arts i muay thai, I stopped at competition level, then I got my black belt in goju ryu and currently doing JKD and a bit of shotokan. Now from my experience and if you do your kata and apply bunkai practice you will notice that most moves in the kata is a kill move or really injure the opponent. I agreed with you self defense is about stopping the guy. However, always take your opponent as a better fighter and be prepare if he's going to serious hurt or kill you.
I grew up in Vietnam, third world country, now it is better. Street fights happen very often and most fights have weapons of all kinds. I have seen many black belts and masters bleed to death or hospitalized. Where I am from, because ppl are poor, crimes are everywhere. Most of the time it is never one on one, and let me tell you, I'll bet my life on it, 30 seconds is eternity with ppl coming at you with punches, kicks, and weapons.
You wont go to jail in all states...someone breaks into your home and you blow a whole in their chest with a .45....you'll usually be ok..it just depends on the circumstances...but if my life or someone elses life is in danger..I couldnt really care less about jail time..not to mention..in smalltown USA where I'm from, some methhead or thug attacks you, you put him in the hospital, you WILL run into him again later and he WILL have a gun or a knife, and he WILL try to kill you, better take him.
To get your black belt, you only have to do katas? Really? Damn... I thought you have to do katas, bunkai, sparring, self defense techniques, be able to defeat at least 3 black belts in full contact fight with only few rules ( no vital points hits), stress test (physical endurance) before you are qualify to be consider for black belt. Thats what I was taught. I don't know about here in North America
@hhputube Yes it is very similar but really what they judge is the kata'!what exactly is the physical endurance test where you are from?Where are you from?and what if the student who is testing for his black belt gets his ass kicked during sparring but still knows the kata?
@rgs2654321. I am from Vietnam, but I live in Canada now. Physical endurance test is a series of body exercises (running, push up etc...) then immediately get ready to defend against full blown attacks one black belts first, then 2, then 3. You cannot hit back (no head attacks, so no worry lolz, no gears). It basically train your mind to endure the pain and to see if you are using your techniques to defend yourself.
If you get your ass kick by all 3 black belts... you just failed, if you beat one and pass other test at good rating, you still failed, you must beat at least 2 and pass other test with good rating. If you beat all 3 and pass other test at sastifactory level, then you passed.
Beating a black belt means being able to stand in a full blown contact fight with him and give him a decent fight and make him work for it. It will be judge by some judges 3 dan and up usually 3 or more of them. If you can give the black belts a good fight, you'll pass.
@jiggahippo lol Not all of them... some have the right kind of attitude and actually stand with me... :)But there are 2 many who have no place beyond knowing the kata's with the rank of a black belt. Especially kids under 16!!!!It should be judged by all elements not only kata
Shotokan is great preparation for any type of fighing whether it be Kyokushin or should one unfortunately have to defend themselves on the street. Shotokan emphasizes balance, rhythm, speed, timing, and execution. I'm not sure what more is necessary to defend oneself properly. After many many countless hours of basic training the movemements are executed without thought which makes the practitioner able to adapt quickly to different attacks.
@calvinmathis - It seems you have practised half-moon steps in your resent past. I train with the JKA. Reed Wilson and I still train in practicality. Good stuff and you speak the truth. Shotokan (enter at one stroke) is a very good beginning to your journey. - DJ
@calvinmathis Shotokan is not great for defending oneselft on the street! Are you kidding me? On the other hand MMA is. It trains both ground and stand up
@Fr33Styla00 calvinmanthis, to fight with other martial artist MMA is good, if you want defend your self in the street, karate is good, I am black belt in shoto kan and judo, and never need it in the street, remember, the principal objetive in a real martial art is seek perfection of character, other wise buy a 45 gun! LOL.
@calvinmathis Shotokan is not great for defending oneselft on the street! Are you kidding me? On the other hand MMA is. It trains both ground and stand up
@calvinmathis before, for 1 year and 6 months practicing shotokan karate i found out that basic is very important. now, im going for my 3rd kyu examination. its good for a student not only to practice but observe and research also. in my observation, basic is not wasting time instead its designed for the perfection of the technique were can we find all in the basic or( kihon) thats why karate is..... SPEED,POWER AND FORM.
@calvinmathis Yeah, may be. Ultimately no style is effective if the practitioner isn't willing to fight. You must control your emotions. I've seen everything. I've watched Kung Fu experts lose with ease to grapplers, then beat Karate fighters. Then i've seen Karate stand it's ground against Muay Thai, and Muay Thai beat Kung Fu. Style doesn't matter if you don't have control over your emotions, physical training, and will. In terms of technique, what is your favorite thing about Shotokan calvin?
MA are suppose to compliment one another. A fighter is suppose to be able to flow from skill to skill. U start out kicking and transition into punching, then to grappling and throwing then to ground fighting. You should be able to flow btw these skills as u learn to fight in different combat ranges. So ppl who say 1 MA trumps another are just incomplete fighters that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. A complete fighter will kick the shit out an incomplete fighter every time.
@calvinmathis U are right i started shotokan at age of 10 till i was 14 i had my 1 deggre black belt than i started kyokushin and after i learned the system of fighting i started to kick masive butt becouse everyone was to slow for me
@calvinmathis Agreed. I just think it does lack in some areas. Which is why you said what you said I suppose. The thing about Martial Arts is, they are useless without a willing practitioner. I see your point though.
@fwahoovaghad@fwahoovaghad That is so far from the truth. I can only assume you are a Mixed Martial Arts fan, maybe not. We can debate all day about whether Martial Arts is only useful against a willing opponent. Since you made the claim, then prove your words. Go to any Martial Arts School in your city, and challenge the teacher, and film your fight for Youtube. You should have no problem beating the crap out of a master. Or do you only have empty words?
@trounds2 I didn't say a willing opponent. I said a willing practitioner. This means that the person fighting can't be too afraid to fight. Willingness to fight is more important than any Martial Artists skills. You can be the best fighter in the world, make Mike Tyson look like a sissy in terms of skill, but if you aren't mentally ready and willing, you can't fight. That's a fact. That's what I meant.
I do like Karate, don't get me wrong. I don't doubt
@fwahoovaghad I see. I completely misunderstood you. Forgive me for that. You are right. Mental attitude, or fighting spirit as it is sometimes called, is more important than technical skill. I agree.
@fwahoovaghad By the way, I don't practice Shotokan. I study Tan Tui.and Bai Ji Quan. I respect all true traditional Asian and non-Asian fighting styles when performed by a real master who practices to fight, and not for sport shows.
@trounds2 That's good. Respect is a nice thing to have. I do think sport is going a bit far, since it takes away from how a Martial Art should be built.
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PreludeSi91, Yaguchi Sensei is in his late 70's. Up close he's in admirable shape. Very flexible, very controlled. Bruce Lee died in his mid-thirties or so, right?
Sensei Yaguchi did testing at our dojo just a couple of months ago. He trained us twice - the day of testing and the day before. It was truly amazing!
Im tired of these conflicts of what is the best martial art. There is no martial art, who is better then another, i practice Karate an Jiu Jitsu an i have to say, that each has his own weaknesses, an it is also a way of Training, how good somebody is. So everyone, who say this or this martial art is the best und no other, please be quiet and learn some more lessons for yourself
SotaRu2. I totally agree. My daddy is bigger than your daddy'. This arguement is for the ignornat. All martial arts are perfect. What isn't is the human being.
just logic really, karate is a self defense only to be used for defending yourself, however there are those who care less for the honor and spiritual side and go looking for trouble, weak people with little self discipline.
What UFC fans don't know, understand, care about is the subtly and complexity of a martial art. The UFC fan wants a show. Karate is great for a novice looking for self defense training. Karate is very deep stuff and to use it takes a lot of dedacated and real training. At the high level, none sport life death military combat.. it is sick.
Another awesome traditional karate training. JKA is the best karate. And Yaguchi is one of the worlds best karate instructors. If you know anything about karate you should know that.
Its pathetic,'my daddy is bigger than your daddy'.For gods sake all martial arts and their theory is perfect!! What is imperfect is the human! I love UFC but principle of traditional martial arts is NOT about trading blows with your opponent, or scoring points but about self defence. You dont want to have 3 x 5 mins rounds in the street. The issue for me is that many clubs fail to teach the MODERN DAY application of the movements found in basics or kata. Its a shame because they are there!
@ASTiGBA BS! Mauy Thai is hard core. No doubt! But Mauy Thai is a sport and as such lack finishing techniques. While I'm certain that many attackers would collapse from the blows a MT fighter can deliver, there are those that won't go down no matter what you throw at them. That's why you need and art w/ tools that go to vital areas! Self defense should not depend on strength, gender, or age. An old person, woman or even a child should be able to use it.
Muay Thai is for killing when it's the only option. When the Thai's were no longer at war they decided to use it in competitions. Too many people lost their lives to it in contest. It is only legal in competition under certain safety codes, outlawing most of what made it so efficient but deadly. It has taken up to the past 30-40 years for Sport Muay Thai to become a practical combat sport that can also be used, at times, in a street fight. Mas Oyama and Yoshiji Soeno found it worth learning from
the sport. However, the old styles still live and grow and they aren't only "stand-up-based". If you're only interested in Karate based fighting arts I recommend Kyokushin (full-contact), Shidokan, and Daido Juku. Escrima is also worth learning for self-defense and survival.
@MuayBoranWarrior All of the arts have the potential to be deadly, however they are often not deadly enough! It's tough enough just to disable an attacker in a self-defense situation. Even when ppl use firearms to defend themselves the attacker can still stay vital long enough to seriously injure, maim or kill them. What is needed are techniques that stop them in their tracks. There's no value in the attacker dying 3 hrs later, after I've been stabbed or ganged up on by his accomplices.
@osensei2987 so we are on the same page? If you still think Muay Thai isn't practical, then find someone around you who does it not as a sport but as a way to survive on the streets or in war, and let me know if your perspective changes. Peace be with you.
Master says strike forward. Then master says strike forward and move back and strike again but still with power. Then master says to add an angular shift and strike again with power. You keep adding on as a form a practice. At what point did that become a dance?
You just showed your ignorance. UFC is a sport. As such it has rules which take out so many weapons and strikes from kung fu that only lame styles like shotokan can be used effectively.
lol, "lame style"...in the UFC there's no weapons or anything, it's hand to hand combat, a kung fu practiconer probably wouldn't last, MACHIDA, shotokan, yes, he will.
I think you should watch Cung Le in MMA, before you make bias comments about martial art styles. There is no 1 effective style in this world. It only depends on how well and how long you have trained yourself. And most of all how well you use what you learnt in combat
There may not be one effective style, but there are still styles with huge flaws and shotokan is one of them. I really don't have to explain myself, just take my word for it and do a different style.
anyone over time can learn dance moves but to go hands on are those who are to be real masters and not fake. teaching someone is easy to do but to have them believe what they are doing will work is another story
betend to fight someone in front of you is not away to learn how to fight. to know that you are doing something right is to go hands on. all the trainning in the world without hands on you are nothing. just like a mechanic he can have all the trainning he learned from a teacher but whitout hands on he wont know where or what to do.
still needs this sort of technical training though. repeatedly practising as such helps the muscles to remember the utilisation of the technique - yes your muscles have something called muscle memory.
and yes drills such as punching pads could also be implemented into this way of training.
I retract my previous statement. This is JKA not SKA. I study under Tsutomu Ohshima organization. Master Ohshima studied directly under Master Funakoshi.
No disrespect to any karateka that study under this master, and definitely no disrespect to this master, but any one who truly studies Master Funakoshi's Shotokan knows that no master will have a rank over 5th Dan. Master Funakoshi died at 5th Dan. You can't promote yourself.
Yes, you're right, Master Egami and others branched off to keep Funakoshi sensei's teachings to the original way he taught, when Nakayama had started the JKA
Endgame - Nonsense. Funakoshi sensei left Okinawa as a 5th dan and taught for another 35 years without changing his rank. Did he not learn anything in that time? Were his best students in 1960 not better than he was in 1920? It has nothing to do with disrespect for him. 5 gradations of seniority are simply not enough in a large group of people doing a lifelong activity.
Lol I've never attacked with my tool before...but I disagree it is good on the streets.
It's not about the form, but the disipline...loosen it up and be flexible and you can lay waste, but any good self defense will allow that, boxing, karate, kick boxing...just my opinion.
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cliffrogers1 6 months ago
ill whoop that old mans ass you can do all that shit but in a real fight anything can happen soon as he gets into hes stance ill just shoot him down and he will realize all those years of wasting time to one bullet to the brain
SilentControl843 6 months ago
@SilentControl843 Yeah? Before you could pull that trigger he be kickin' your balls to space troll. People like you don't know shit about this stuff so all you do is talk and troll. Why don't you try pointin' a gun on his face and all we'll be seein' is this guy stickin' that gun barrel through your ass. Fuck off and die. Pardon the rude language but I'm simply emphasizing this asshole's mistake in his words.
WeLiveToComment 6 months ago 6
@SilentControl843 Why would you think people train in martial arts only for that some day someone may try to kill them?? If you train well, realistically, from a good teacher and the style has what is needed, you will learn how to fight, how to defend. There still is so much more you can get from that years and years of training, for which you have no idea until you do it yourself.
pastropmal 5 months ago
my master has 5th dan
Silent23Ninja 7 months ago
@LeungTingWT What do you smoke? Wink Wink.
torro454 7 months ago
my master has 10. dan !
zelfireloaded 8 months ago
@zelfireloaded so what??? ;))))))
alexgabryel 7 months ago
master Yaguchi he isnt master!!
emoland88 10 months ago
smooth
donottawaguitar 1 year ago
shotokan demands control over inner emotions,
FAWNMAIDEN 1 year ago
shotokan is a good style....I started with Shotokan
232323C 1 year ago
What people don't realise it's not all about being the strongest but about the inner values learnt. Since I started karate my desire to fight has been lose to the desire to make peace and this has taken me along time to realise that, and not just karate but a whole load of the martial arts and that's what's important
PlayRockGuitarSongs 1 year ago
@PlayRockGuitarSongs when you say desire for peace you really desire for the safest way to not get beaten up.
maxgunn555 1 year ago
@maxgunn555 kinda but mostly not cause least harm to the opponent and to only use it for my self defence.
PlayRockGuitarSongs 1 year ago
@PlayRockGuitarSongs i'd only use minimal force if it meant not escalating the situation and thus not putting my self in any more risk. ie if the person is on strong drugs it's going to take a lot of pain/force before they go down and thus the risk of you getting injured is going to escalate.
maxgunn555 1 year ago
@maxgunn555 id do what it took to defend myself but not o.t.t, but fight would be last resort
PlayRockGuitarSongs 1 year ago
@maxgunn555 I would push the person away or restrain him if he was to approach me etc. I would never fight or pound the crap out of the person. I was a 2nd degree black belt in a korean MMA, I have 8 years experience :), but generally 13 years experience in martial arts.
kuru2k9 11 months ago
@kuru2k9 cool. aikido, boxing and wing chun will help you best on the street imo. aikido for if you're charged at. boxing for if it's a stationary fight with not alot of aggression. and wing chun for panic up close surprise attacks - say if you were attacked in a phone booth.
maxgunn555 11 months ago 2
@maxgunn555 If anything, I run away from the situation. After all, live to fight another day, I rather compete in teh ring with light-contact as opposed to some UFC person who is risking his/her life by either getting head-trama or having them knock the other person out etc..
Martial arts is all about art and demonstrating control, nothing to brutal :).
kuru2k9 11 months ago
@kuru2k9 true!!! :)
MrRamboman123 11 months ago
@kuru2k9 Best fight, no be there ^_^ -Miyagi
GloryB2Jesus 9 months ago
@GloryB2Jesus soudesune, faiito wa bakka imasu :). (Sorry, i am to lazy to install my hiragana fonts). But I do agree with you, fights are stupid, yes idiots can get to me, but I simply shut my mouth (as always :)).
kuru2k9 9 months ago
@kuru2k9 Your'e smart. Street fight can trun sideways fast. Ohers jump in, a knife, ass batton etc. Best to have Zanshin, all around awareness, and hopefully avoid the whole thing. No medicl bills, not peace officers, and no attorneys! Regards.
torro454 7 months ago
@torro454 I try my best :).
kuru2k9 7 months ago
@GloryB2Jesus and he is in fact right.
MrWintersho 8 months ago
@maxgunn555 I mean no disrespect! If someone is on a strong drug, or serious mental illness, they likely won't drop unless they are truly incapacitated. I'm not sure what that would take because what would incapacitate even a heavy weight, likely won't be effective on them. They'll feel it later, presuming you didn't use lethal force, which still might not stop them in time to save you... I would heartily suggest getting the heck out of there at all cost, if possible, in such case. Regards
torro454 7 months ago
@torro454 yeah that's sort of what i meant. not escalating the fight when unneccessary. ie just run when you can. and possibly take the light hits if it means not angering the other person.
maxgunn555 7 months ago
@maxgunn555 Indeed, you would never see me run faster! If I could outrun them... Best Regards
torro454 7 months ago
@PlayRockGuitarSongs Glad it helped you, that is what Shotokan Karate is all about.
torro454 1 year ago 2
Gymnastic...
rollie57 1 year ago
Ex: If you're fighting some guy then you might have all the confidence in the world in your Mauy Thai skills. But lets say you beat the crap out of this guy and he's ready to go down. Maybe 2 or 3 more strikes will do the trick. But just then his buddy leaps over the bar with a beer bottle and he looks pissed. You can't afford to hit the 1st guy 2 or 3 more times to finish him. You have to handle the beer bottle situation right now! (CONT)
osensei2987 1 year ago
If you had known some other art along w/ ur MT then maybe u could have finished the 1st guy sooner. Then u wouldn't have to worry about turning ur back on him. That's were all of the arts many of u idiots claim "don't work in a real fight" come in handy. So even if U knew a little Aikido, which you claim is useless, U could've broken something on the guy before U had to turn ur back on him! Or maybe a shuto from Karate could have dislocated his shoulder.
osensei2987 1 year ago
So what I'm saying is it's all about time! Yes MT can kill someone but the question is, "How long will it take?". The answer is it depends on a lot of different factors. Everyone u hit is not going to react the same way. And if another threat presents itself then u can't keep playing with this guy. U have to dispatch him right now! Then run if u have to! If you know some of these "useless arts" then maybe there's a technique in there somewhere that will drop this fool immediately.
osensei2987 1 year ago
ahh more air punching.....effective if ur fighting a cloud
karatecockboy 1 year ago
@karatecockboy Then I guess western boxers should stop shadow boxing! Just goes to show the limitations that exist in the minds of morons like yourself.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 shadow boxing is a very limited part of boxing training about 10%. Karate training is mostly hitting air. This that not familiarise the student with the sensation of punching someone or something. The muscles are not trained to punch through resistance that is created by a object. Most students dont even know how to calibrate their punching and kicking according to where a target is i.e. people move around and sometime a punch may land closer or farther away from your body.
karatecockboy 1 year ago
@karatecockboy Most students (doctors, lawyers, and dentists and shit) don't take karate to become fighters. Boxers an MT fighters do!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 ok i see ur point. ur correct
karatecockboy 1 year ago
@karatecockboy I'm glad we can agree! Because we really don't disagree! LOL! To me it's about finishing moves. Karate is meant to end the fight quickly. It was never meant for ppl dancing around trying to feel out the opponent and being limited to closed fist techniques and a few kicks. After all, that's what Taekwondon't is for! ROFLMAO! While MT, Boxing, MMA and full-contact sports are great they don't have finishing moves! Look no further than UFC 117 to understand why u need finishing moves!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 I did ITF Taekwon-Do before Shotokan and as Shotokan is Taekwon-Do's mother style it uses all the same techniques (apart from side snap kick, not in TKD) in equal measure. Judging TKD by its sports side is like judging Karate by its sports side, which as you pointed out is a very limited version.
micirv20 1 year ago
@micirv20 I didn't say anything about TaeKwon Do! I said TaeKwon Don't. I'm sure there must be some fighting versions of TKD out there somewhere. But most of what I see is from McDojang! HAHAHA! To tell the truth I would be compelled to gravitate toward Hapkido rather than TKD. There to many out there that seem to train for demonstrations and cultural festivals geared toward pleasing the crowd more so than combat. Hapkido is more complete IMHO!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@karatecockboy Kicks, punches, elbows and knees are devastating devices. Esp. in the hands of a professionally trained fighter. But there are ppl who can take those strikes! At least they can take them long enough to do harm back to you! Or maybe hold you off long enough to accomplish some evil aim or until their backup arrives. That's why those techniques are not finishing moves. A finishing move ends the fight instantly once landed properly 100% of the time. That is the aim of Karate.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@karatecockboy Look at Sonnen vs Silva! Sonnen grounded and pounded Silva for 5 whole rounds! Punches, elbows and all kind of shit flew! Guess what? None of that shit was a finishing move! Because just like I said, "Some ppl out there that can weather the storm!". What u gonna do on the street? Ground and pound a mofo for 23 mins? Silva on the other hand had finishing moves! One arm bar put all that shit to an end! The difference btw noob ass Wrestling and BJJ!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 I mean if your going to be a soccer player, you're going to have to kick the damn ball and same with any coordinated physical action wether it be sport or martial art. Karate has become weak because no one hits each other or something anymore. Sure it is great for speed,timing etc but as for developing power and conditioning and bodily kinesthetic awareness that it needs in hand to hand combat/defense. btw im a 2nd dan in shotokan and have trained relentlessly for the past 10 years.
karatecockboy 1 year ago
PPL who intend on fighting train accordingly. Full contact karate fighters go at it all the time because that's what they do. But come on man don't try to put a fat ass accountant that trains only in an air conditioned dojo in front of a mirror twice a week w/ guys who train to fight! Even so, at the end of the day it's still just a sport. In the same way that MT, Boxing and Judo are still only sports. Self defense means I have to stop a guy in 3 secs. Sports fighting doesn't work like that.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 so what im saying is you should shut the fuck up and observe more than the art and focus on the human movements and bio mechanics of combat and not jizz in ur pants every time u see an oi zuki done up and down a dojo floor.
karatecockboy 1 year ago
sogoi
TheNonfat 1 year ago
the person's attitude is the most important except when there is a real mismatch in skill. I used to tell my blackbelt friends that out there in the streets are folks who can kick our noses to the ground. They did not believe me. Yet when we spar and I go full blast with control (not hitting the target), they tell me I am an animal. You fight somebody with nothing to lose and you will lose because you fight not to die or get hurt. A real fight is always dirty and dangerous to all participants.
bludtruck 1 year ago
muay thai is the hero
tommymonsternz 1 year ago
did u ever see a news item where a martial artist had to defend themselves in the street
bludtruck 1 year ago
Honestly? There is much paranoia around this subject. The truth is that ppl really don't fight that often. Hell I'm 51 years old and my last real fight was in the 9th grade. I think the idea of dispatching an attacker w/ MA precision is a fantasy that ppl have and one that they have lived out over and over in their minds. If anything real ever happened they'd probably shit all over themselves! The next day they can tell their BJJ instructor that the smell drove the attacker away! LOL!
osensei2987 1 year ago
come on these shotokan ppl don't stand a chance against some1 doing
brazilian jiu jitsu.
they won't last a minute against a gracie.
brazilian jiu jitsu is best system ever.
BluePittbull666 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666
How good is brazil Jiu Jitsu against 5 men? Laying on the floor is not always optimal. and whatabout all the rules of no eye popping, grind kicking? pulling off ears etc? Mounthguards and grind protection is illusions. gives you a false sense of security. at least shotokan has kumite that has no rules except dont hurt your opponent. closest to reality you can get without going to jail for murder.
joshuanodharma 1 year ago
1 on 1 its OK provided: 1) the other guy knows nothing about the ground. 2) the other guy is not concealing a weapon.
The problem is that one the street you cannot be certain of what's going on. Just because you think the fight is 1 on 1 doesn't make it so. People can hide out of sight or in a crowd and pounce on you once you are tied up with your attacker. Your opponent could be concealing a weapon until the last moment giving you no chance to disarm. At least you can run if ur standing.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Are you familiar with Shuri-Ryu? It is the 1st Karate brought to America in 1945 by O'sensei Robert Trias 10th Dan. He was a Middle weight boxer before learning Karate. In his curriculim Judo, Jujitsu and Boxing as well as Okinawan Karate all melded together to create Shuri-Ryu. We always fought in the Dojo to the ground where arm-bars, chokes, or Basic ground and Pound were employeed. I fought with a Machado Sensei in BJJ I put him in a Kimura in 30 seconds.We started on the floor.
nandansho 1 year ago
@osensei2987 I am 3rd generation from O'Sensei Trias I trained with the hardest Senseis in the Shuri-System.I have a favoriet clip of a Point match between Biil "Superfoot" Wallace and a Karate- Ka who trained in our sister style Shorin-Ryu. Wallace could'nt take him and ran mostly. I have found that Muscular strength can negate many ground techniques. Weight training is essential. Shuri is a complete system. I have fought a variety of Stylists and I have never been stymied by other fighters.
nandansho 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Shuri has elements of Hsing Yi chuan and White Crane Gung fu. Krav Maga borrows the Dragon Form or "Floating" They call it " Bursting" To break it down Gravity is employeed in Shuri as well as BODY Momentem and timing. Our Punches knock you off your feet. Similar to Shotokan but with more circular attacks. and Okinawan Bunkai vs Japanese Bunkai. example. The basic Low Punch in Shuri is really an Arm break. so is the Middle Block. Sweeps R our specialty.
nandansho 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666
there is no best system. Its just how hard you train. Still karate is a vrey effective defensive sport. Jiu jitsu is to much on the ground. Useless against groups
SuperiorSquid 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666 Theres no best system, and if there is one, it certainly isn't the gracie's, a lot of ground work, but the stand up grappling is a problem, and I barely see strikes thrown by a BJJ fighter, or atleast quality strikes, and by the way, Gracies didn't even study Jiu Jutsu, they were taught Judo, by a Judoka.
GabbysMyKittyRawr 1 year ago
Yes! You are quite correct. If we study the history of martial arts, we are at some point going to have to revisit the Shaolin Temple. The monks did not just study one style. Rather they had a complete curriculum. Therefore a Shaolin Monk was able to strike use weapons and wrestle. All of these skills became separated and became individual arts that ppl "specialized" in. But in the beginning this was not so. Therefore one must learn multiple styles to be effective and cover all their bases.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Yes indeed, all asian martial arts can be traced to the Shaolin temples, only the close-mindedness of men had seperated the concepts of striking and grappling, believing one is better than the other, when in fact, they are parts of fighting that should not be seperated, because the well rounded fighter, is the ultimate fighter.
GabbysMyKittyRawr 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666 dude Ive been w/ the marines for 7 years and all that grappling crap is no good in a real fight were there are no rules. Ive learned all sort of stuff including BJJ and krav maga, theones that actually worked are the Traditional arts like Karate and Kali, when it gets down and dirty I just punch the throat or spearhand an eyeball and if someone tackles me I take a step back and hammer the jugular.And besides Karate is beyond fighting its about self perfection in character
Kaisertoji 1 year ago
@Kaisertoji I applaud you for your answer and your years of service! Thank you, what a great answer from an authority on the subject-a warrior. I especially enjoyed the last sentence. I have been training in Shotokan for over 2 years now, and LOVE it...Oss or should I say Semper Fi
eckliquink 1 year ago
@eckliquink I'm w/ the Philippine marines force recon, semper-fi american brother, MMA is all good, got nothing against it. but when your fighting communist rebels or muslim separatists, it has to be downright brutal and nothing beats a good ol nukite; the techniques you dont use in tournaments even in the UFC. But I'd rather reason out w/ my bros rather than cap them in the head.
Kaisertoji 1 year ago
@Kaisertoji Hey man! I wanna see some guy try to grapple one of your brothers from Silat, Kali or Punantukan that's swinging a stick or a blade or a stick and a blade or machete! LOL!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 Most grapplers (BJJ) have this idea that if they get close to you, there is nothing you can do. In kali and panununtukan there are grappling involve as well as anti grappling techniques as well. I remember one time when an MP had to deal w/ some unruly US marines, one of them tried to tackle him down. The MP simply assumed a forward stance and struck him at the back of the head w/ the butt of his batton. I guess that's so much for wrestling or BJJ.
Kaisertoji 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666 BJJ is what it is. None of these guys are fighters. What are you kidding me? There more reason than fighting to study MA. That's something that you arrogant MMA instructor has apparently never taught you while he was convincing you that he was turning you into a SUPERMAN! But the sad fact is in MMA more and more fights are ending by standing knock out. BJJ is starting to fail in competition because everybody knows that shit now. The advantage is no longer there. So STFU!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@BluePittbull666 Fuck a Garcie! The Gracie are getting their asses kicked nowadays. Why? For the same reason that stand up fighters got their asses kicked in the early UFC. They have limitations and are one dimensional fighters. In the old days stand up fighters lost because they had no ground. Today ground fighters are losing because they have no stand up. So we've come full circle. Stop being a fan boy & finally come to the realization that u have to be a complete fighter! You need both!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 cant argue with that.
brinnonvallere 1 year ago
commercial karate
brucelee24042009 1 year ago
very good video, congratulations
andersonlmamede 1 year ago
para meus amigos karatecas, otimas tecnicas para serem aplicadas em combate.
DantasDesignervideos 1 year ago
I wonder how much they paid for that class.
Kinghercules 1 year ago
I love the time and concideration Sensei Yaguchi puts into his instructions : )
aspenedgewalker 1 year ago
Cool video. I really like this style!
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getyoulaid 2 years ago
If you watch MMA too much you might think street fight is like that. But I agreed with all the lawsuits and laws here in Canada/USA, kill or injured someone even if you are defending yourself still get you in jail some how. To really defend youself you mus be prepare to really really hurt the other guy and go for the vital points and then RUNNNNNN... If you carry the fight on for even 30secons you'll be out of breath not to mention if other gang up on you as well.
hhputube 2 years ago
Nah, self defence isn't about training to kill or seriously hurt someone if you want a martial art like that go for capoeira or taekwondo... Martial arts like karate, ju jitsu, aikedo etc are about stopping the guy from attacking you. punching people like say in the throat or groin is uncalled for a lot of the times.
And you won't be out of breath if you've trained properly lol.
Oliiiverr 2 years ago
My first martial arts i muay thai, I stopped at competition level, then I got my black belt in goju ryu and currently doing JKD and a bit of shotokan. Now from my experience and if you do your kata and apply bunkai practice you will notice that most moves in the kata is a kill move or really injure the opponent. I agreed with you self defense is about stopping the guy. However, always take your opponent as a better fighter and be prepare if he's going to serious hurt or kill you.
hhputube 2 years ago
wow muay thai !! i love it :D
waiikol 1 year ago
I grew up in Vietnam, third world country, now it is better. Street fights happen very often and most fights have weapons of all kinds. I have seen many black belts and masters bleed to death or hospitalized. Where I am from, because ppl are poor, crimes are everywhere. Most of the time it is never one on one, and let me tell you, I'll bet my life on it, 30 seconds is eternity with ppl coming at you with punches, kicks, and weapons.
hhputube 2 years ago
@hhputube ow really?
anacondapunch 1 year ago
You wont go to jail in all states...someone breaks into your home and you blow a whole in their chest with a .45....you'll usually be ok..it just depends on the circumstances...but if my life or someone elses life is in danger..I couldnt really care less about jail time..not to mention..in smalltown USA where I'm from, some methhead or thug attacks you, you put him in the hospital, you WILL run into him again later and he WILL have a gun or a knife, and he WILL try to kill you, better take him.
commanderNSO 1 year ago
To get your black belt, you only have to do katas? Really? Damn... I thought you have to do katas, bunkai, sparring, self defense techniques, be able to defeat at least 3 black belts in full contact fight with only few rules ( no vital points hits), stress test (physical endurance) before you are qualify to be consider for black belt. Thats what I was taught. I don't know about here in North America
hhputube 2 years ago
@hhputube Yes it is very similar but really what they judge is the kata'!what exactly is the physical endurance test where you are from?Where are you from?and what if the student who is testing for his black belt gets his ass kicked during sparring but still knows the kata?
rgs2654321 2 years ago
@rgs2654321. I am from Vietnam, but I live in Canada now. Physical endurance test is a series of body exercises (running, push up etc...) then immediately get ready to defend against full blown attacks one black belts first, then 2, then 3. You cannot hit back (no head attacks, so no worry lolz, no gears). It basically train your mind to endure the pain and to see if you are using your techniques to defend yourself.
hhputube 2 years ago
If you get your ass kick by all 3 black belts... you just failed, if you beat one and pass other test at good rating, you still failed, you must beat at least 2 and pass other test with good rating. If you beat all 3 and pass other test at sastifactory level, then you passed.
hhputube 2 years ago
Beating a black belt means being able to stand in a full blown contact fight with him and give him a decent fight and make him work for it. It will be judge by some judges 3 dan and up usually 3 or more of them. If you can give the black belts a good fight, you'll pass.
hhputube 2 years ago
At least half of these black-belt dudes are pathetic
doomizz 2 years ago
@doomizz I agree they hand out black belts far to easily...I am a begginner and during sparring most of the black belt guys run away from me...
rgs2654321 2 years ago
lol, im sure they run cus they dont want to hurt u. but if they suck that bad, find a better school.
jiggahippo 2 years ago
@jiggahippo lol Not all of them... some have the right kind of attitude and actually stand with me... :)But there are 2 many who have no place beyond knowing the kata's with the rank of a black belt. Especially kids under 16!!!!It should be judged by all elements not only kata
rgs2654321 2 years ago
hmmm. u have a good point.
jiggahippo 2 years ago
OSS!!!
MrApatchi 2 years ago
Awesome!
kitemaster55 2 years ago
Nice.
Readioheed 2 years ago
OSS
MasOyama10dan 2 years ago
Shotokan is great preparation for any type of fighing whether it be Kyokushin or should one unfortunately have to defend themselves on the street. Shotokan emphasizes balance, rhythm, speed, timing, and execution. I'm not sure what more is necessary to defend oneself properly. After many many countless hours of basic training the movemements are executed without thought which makes the practitioner able to adapt quickly to different attacks.
calvinmathis 2 years ago 17
@calvinmathis - It seems you have practised half-moon steps in your resent past. I train with the JKA. Reed Wilson and I still train in practicality. Good stuff and you speak the truth. Shotokan (enter at one stroke) is a very good beginning to your journey. - DJ
dayjob51 1 year ago
@calvinmathis Shotokan is not great for defending oneselft on the street! Are you kidding me? On the other hand MMA is. It trains both ground and stand up
Fr33Styla00 1 year ago
@Fr33Styla00 calvinmanthis, to fight with other martial artist MMA is good, if you want defend your self in the street, karate is good, I am black belt in shoto kan and judo, and never need it in the street, remember, the principal objetive in a real martial art is seek perfection of character, other wise buy a 45 gun! LOL.
adyaelo 1 year ago
@calvinmathis Shotokan is not great for defending oneselft on the street! Are you kidding me? On the other hand MMA is. It trains both ground and stand up
Fr33Styla00 1 year ago
@calvinmathis Osu
Kaisertoji 1 year ago
@calvinmathis before, for 1 year and 6 months practicing shotokan karate i found out that basic is very important. now, im going for my 3rd kyu examination. its good for a student not only to practice but observe and research also. in my observation, basic is not wasting time instead its designed for the perfection of the technique were can we find all in the basic or( kihon) thats why karate is..... SPEED,POWER AND FORM.
19751016007 1 year ago
@calvinmathis Yeah, may be. Ultimately no style is effective if the practitioner isn't willing to fight. You must control your emotions. I've seen everything. I've watched Kung Fu experts lose with ease to grapplers, then beat Karate fighters. Then i've seen Karate stand it's ground against Muay Thai, and Muay Thai beat Kung Fu. Style doesn't matter if you don't have control over your emotions, physical training, and will. In terms of technique, what is your favorite thing about Shotokan calvin?
fwahoovaghad 1 year ago
MA are suppose to compliment one another. A fighter is suppose to be able to flow from skill to skill. U start out kicking and transition into punching, then to grappling and throwing then to ground fighting. You should be able to flow btw these skills as u learn to fight in different combat ranges. So ppl who say 1 MA trumps another are just incomplete fighters that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. A complete fighter will kick the shit out an incomplete fighter every time.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@calvinmathis U are right i started shotokan at age of 10 till i was 14 i had my 1 deggre black belt than i started kyokushin and after i learned the system of fighting i started to kick masive butt becouse everyone was to slow for me
Trelizzz45 1 year ago
@calvinmathis Agreed. I just think it does lack in some areas. Which is why you said what you said I suppose. The thing about Martial Arts is, they are useless without a willing practitioner. I see your point though.
fwahoovaghad 1 year ago
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trounds2 1 year ago
@fwahoovaghad @fwahoovaghad That is so far from the truth. I can only assume you are a Mixed Martial Arts fan, maybe not. We can debate all day about whether Martial Arts is only useful against a willing opponent. Since you made the claim, then prove your words. Go to any Martial Arts School in your city, and challenge the teacher, and film your fight for Youtube. You should have no problem beating the crap out of a master. Or do you only have empty words?
trounds2 1 year ago
@trounds2 I didn't say a willing opponent. I said a willing practitioner. This means that the person fighting can't be too afraid to fight. Willingness to fight is more important than any Martial Artists skills. You can be the best fighter in the world, make Mike Tyson look like a sissy in terms of skill, but if you aren't mentally ready and willing, you can't fight. That's a fact. That's what I meant.
I do like Karate, don't get me wrong. I don't doubt
fwahoovaghad 1 year ago
@fwahoovaghad I see. I completely misunderstood you. Forgive me for that. You are right. Mental attitude, or fighting spirit as it is sometimes called, is more important than technical skill. I agree.
trounds2 1 year ago
@fwahoovaghad By the way, I don't practice Shotokan. I study Tan Tui.and Bai Ji Quan. I respect all true traditional Asian and non-Asian fighting styles when performed by a real master who practices to fight, and not for sport shows.
trounds2 1 year ago
@trounds2 That's good. Respect is a nice thing to have. I do think sport is going a bit far, since it takes away from how a Martial Art should be built.
Though I did used to watch them a lot.
fwahoovaghad 1 year ago
Pratiquei a alguns anos atráz esta técnica do Karate Shotokan, ver este vídeo me deu saudades e vontade de voltar a treinar. Parabéns Sansei, fique com meus cumprimentos e minha admiração!
isaurafernandez 2 years ago
I went to his seminar the other day by accident! I went in to practice after 3 years and it just so happend to be seminar day with Yaguchi Sensei.
Sewbie 2 years ago
I'm attracted to shotokan because of lyota machida but there doesn't seem to be any hook punches or upper cuts utilzed,
byen8 2 years ago
PreludeSi91, Yaguchi Sensei is in his late 70's. Up close he's in admirable shape. Very flexible, very controlled. Bruce Lee died in his mid-thirties or so, right?
drumass23 2 years ago 5
thats pretty complicated
xChristian93x 2 years ago
how come these master of Martial Art is out of shape?..I prefer Bruce Lee he is in exellent shape physical fitness,
PreludeSi91 2 years ago
These guys aren't training to be in movies.
TensaiNihonjin 2 years ago 2
u are one of those boxing fanatics
they always say how the conitioning matters, and how they laugh about people with beer bellies andshit
but they have no idea aboutreali fighting. u can be as athletic as u want to, when somebody hits u with a baseball, ur ko
knowing how to defend urself against it, helps u more. knowing how to avoid fights helps u more too
knowledge goes b4 conditioning, even though conditioning adds to it
the conditioning of these karatekas are enough for a real fight
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago
What about van dam he in excellent shape and he did karate lol?
hotpopcorncake 2 years ago
Sensei Yaguchi did testing at our dojo just a couple of months ago. He trained us twice - the day of testing and the day before. It was truly amazing!
VerityDemortem 2 years ago
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brickshooter 2 years ago
Im tired of these conflicts of what is the best martial art. There is no martial art, who is better then another, i practice Karate an Jiu Jitsu an i have to say, that each has his own weaknesses, an it is also a way of Training, how good somebody is. So everyone, who say this or this martial art is the best und no other, please be quiet and learn some more lessons for yourself
SotaRu2 2 years ago 3
SotaRu2. I totally agree. My daddy is bigger than your daddy'. This arguement is for the ignornat. All martial arts are perfect. What isn't is the human being.
MrPietrasantino 2 years ago 3
If everyone karate and practiced the philosophy behind the training there would be no more fighting.
Artbag1 2 years ago 2
haha i think ur wrong...
jhonc95 2 years ago
just logic really, karate is a self defense only to be used for defending yourself, however there are those who care less for the honor and spiritual side and go looking for trouble, weak people with little self discipline.
Artbag1 2 years ago
well almost all martial arts is for self defence only but i would have to say karate works just as fine the opposite way
sweetrolls016 2 years ago
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JimTheJames 2 years ago
what do you mean jim "that is rich"?
Artbag1 2 years ago
What UFC fans don't know, understand, care about is the subtly and complexity of a martial art. The UFC fan wants a show. Karate is great for a novice looking for self defense training. Karate is very deep stuff and to use it takes a lot of dedacated and real training. At the high level, none sport life death military combat.. it is sick.
me2igloo 2 years ago 3
Another awesome traditional karate training. JKA is the best karate. And Yaguchi is one of the worlds best karate instructors. If you know anything about karate you should know that.
kitemaster55 2 years ago
Rubbish all karate is good. Its not about style. Yaguchi is a very fine sensei though, and this IS very important.
TheToscano1 2 years ago
Its pathetic,'my daddy is bigger than your daddy'.For gods sake all martial arts and their theory is perfect!! What is imperfect is the human! I love UFC but principle of traditional martial arts is NOT about trading blows with your opponent, or scoring points but about self defence. You dont want to have 3 x 5 mins rounds in the street. The issue for me is that many clubs fail to teach the MODERN DAY application of the movements found in basics or kata. Its a shame because they are there!
TheToscano1 2 years ago 2
I agree. I use Karate as well as other martial arts in actual fighting. Very useful.
TenjhoShadow 2 years ago 4
useless ,you should go try muay thai
ASTiGBA 2 years ago
WTF u saying? People like u can not be a real martial art fighter.
souleater1994122 2 years ago
Ive been teaching for 11 years, and worked the doors for 15. How good a martial art is, is measure by how good the application of the theory is!
TheToscano1 2 years ago
ASTiGBA........and then someone bearhugs you from behind or any situation where you dont have the luxury of being able to use your hands or feet.
TheToscano1 2 years ago
@ASTiGBA BS! Mauy Thai is hard core. No doubt! But Mauy Thai is a sport and as such lack finishing techniques. While I'm certain that many attackers would collapse from the blows a MT fighter can deliver, there are those that won't go down no matter what you throw at them. That's why you need and art w/ tools that go to vital areas! Self defense should not depend on strength, gender, or age. An old person, woman or even a child should be able to use it.
osensei2987 1 year ago
Muay Thai is for killing when it's the only option. When the Thai's were no longer at war they decided to use it in competitions. Too many people lost their lives to it in contest. It is only legal in competition under certain safety codes, outlawing most of what made it so efficient but deadly. It has taken up to the past 30-40 years for Sport Muay Thai to become a practical combat sport that can also be used, at times, in a street fight. Mas Oyama and Yoshiji Soeno found it worth learning from
MuayBoranWarrior 1 year ago
the sport. However, the old styles still live and grow and they aren't only "stand-up-based". If you're only interested in Karate based fighting arts I recommend Kyokushin (full-contact), Shidokan, and Daido Juku. Escrima is also worth learning for self-defense and survival.
MuayBoranWarrior 1 year ago
@MuayBoranWarrior All of the arts have the potential to be deadly, however they are often not deadly enough! It's tough enough just to disable an attacker in a self-defense situation. Even when ppl use firearms to defend themselves the attacker can still stay vital long enough to seriously injure, maim or kill them. What is needed are techniques that stop them in their tracks. There's no value in the attacker dying 3 hrs later, after I've been stabbed or ganged up on by his accomplices.
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 so we are on the same page? If you still think Muay Thai isn't practical, then find someone around you who does it not as a sport but as a way to survive on the streets or in war, and let me know if your perspective changes. Peace be with you.
MuayBoranWarrior 1 year ago
@MuayBoranWarrior osu muay boran is deadly
TheShotokankarateguy 1 year ago
Master says strike forward. Then master says strike forward and move back and strike again but still with power. Then master says to add an angular shift and strike again with power. You keep adding on as a form a practice. At what point did that become a dance?
shoto604 2 years ago
kung fu > shotokan I know from experience =D
MachineFILTHY 2 years ago
How many Kung Fu guys dominate the UFC?
grammamjl 2 years ago
You just showed your ignorance. UFC is a sport. As such it has rules which take out so many weapons and strikes from kung fu that only lame styles like shotokan can be used effectively.
MachineFILTHY 2 years ago
lol, "lame style"...in the UFC there's no weapons or anything, it's hand to hand combat, a kung fu practiconer probably wouldn't last, MACHIDA, shotokan, yes, he will.
24miggy24 2 years ago
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about because everything I said went straight over your head.
MachineFILTHY 2 years ago
....how do you figure that?
24miggy24 2 years ago
I think you should watch Cung Le in MMA, before you make bias comments about martial art styles. There is no 1 effective style in this world. It only depends on how well and how long you have trained yourself. And most of all how well you use what you learnt in combat
mj66687 2 years ago
There may not be one effective style, but there are still styles with huge flaws and shotokan is one of them. I really don't have to explain myself, just take my word for it and do a different style.
MachineFILTHY 2 years ago
Excellent teaching !
tibikarate 2 years ago
this person below me is an idiot...just to remind you....Lyoto Machida started with these dance moves
primevk 2 years ago
anyone over time can learn dance moves but to go hands on are those who are to be real masters and not fake. teaching someone is easy to do but to have them believe what they are doing will work is another story
Dreemgrl66 2 years ago
yes but if all you ever do is practice crap (even hands on crap), all you will ever be able to do is crap.
shoulung 2 years ago
betend to fight someone in front of you is not away to learn how to fight. to know that you are doing something right is to go hands on. all the trainning in the world without hands on you are nothing. just like a mechanic he can have all the trainning he learned from a teacher but whitout hands on he wont know where or what to do.
Dreemgrl66 2 years ago
still needs this sort of technical training though. repeatedly practising as such helps the muscles to remember the utilisation of the technique - yes your muscles have something called muscle memory.
and yes drills such as punching pads could also be implemented into this way of training.
I am a Wado Ryu Karate student of 3 years lol
aaindahouse 2 years ago
I retract my previous statement. This is JKA not SKA. I study under Tsutomu Ohshima organization. Master Ohshima studied directly under Master Funakoshi.
Endgame1979 2 years ago
No disrespect to any karateka that study under this master, and definitely no disrespect to this master, but any one who truly studies Master Funakoshi's Shotokan knows that no master will have a rank over 5th Dan. Master Funakoshi died at 5th Dan. You can't promote yourself.
Endgame1979 2 years ago
Yes, you're right, Master Egami and others branched off to keep Funakoshi sensei's teachings to the original way he taught, when Nakayama had started the JKA
shotokanshdn 2 years ago
Endgame - Nonsense. Funakoshi sensei left Okinawa as a 5th dan and taught for another 35 years without changing his rank. Did he not learn anything in that time? Were his best students in 1960 not better than he was in 1920? It has nothing to do with disrespect for him. 5 gradations of seniority are simply not enough in a large group of people doing a lifelong activity.
ptboyindenver 2 years ago
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Karate is good as a sport. It has no techniques where you use your penis to attack though. Its not good on the streets.
audiobuttmaster 2 years ago
wrong
nickanhtran 2 years ago
Lol I've never attacked with my tool before...but I disagree it is good on the streets.
It's not about the form, but the disipline...loosen it up and be flexible and you can lay waste, but any good self defense will allow that, boxing, karate, kick boxing...just my opinion.
Drumboy5165 2 years ago
If I got in a fight at school, could I use Karate to win? I took it as a kid and have watched a lot of it, but am not really a m