Warhammer 40k Battle Report: Tau vs Ulthwe

[jogs225]

Nice battle report bud 8)

[WritingFighter]

Stealth team count as being in cover when being charged; they should've attacked first. Other than that, it seemed like an ok game. The Tau player spread his forces thin, cooped up most of the units as much as possible and blatantly exposed a lot of his forces. He did get a bit of pretty bad luck on that Turn 3, but it seems that he could've been more aggressive on Turn 1 and 2.

[jonaslep]

@WritingFighter Thanks for that analysis of the game! This was one of Norau's first games of 40k, whereas I've played for years. Nowadays he wins over me more often than not with both his Tau Empire and Space Wolf armies.

[AndersNB95]

Fet at du er norsk... Jeg er også norsk og spiller Eldar... De eier

[ratman1234567890]

naii, NAI! oi oi oiii...

[Drarkkikk]

When the Guardians attacked you should have struck first as in page 27 of the Tau codex, under Stealth Field Generator. It says any models with a stealth Generator count as being in Cover when assaulted. Which means the guardians would have had Initiative 1 rather than 5 and going first. try to remember these rules! They might save your ass one day other than that good game.

[Spjungen]

XD @2:03 Fuckin' sick luck. Ethereals must have been watching over that one.

Eldar are totally op though imo. They can put a starcannon (one of the best weapons in the game) on pretty much anything...god I hate starcannons.

I don't really get why Eldar are even in the game and fighting in the first place...they're way more advanced than any other race, and they're just like...the best, pretty much, at everything. Why are they even in the game if no one else has a fighting chance?

[blasterdude3]

@Spjungen how in the hell is a starcannon one of the best weapons in the game!? S6 AP2, yay, tau can put that on mobile crisis suits units, the starcannon has no place in the army, shurken cannons, bright lances, eldar missiles are all far better and have more uses

[mendelievium]

@blasterdude3 Starcannon is heavy 2, and in the new rules with some farseer powers an extra shot is a potential lifesaver, right?

[Spjungen]

XD @2:03 Fuckin' sick luck. Ethereals must have been watching over that one.

Eldar are totally op though imo. They can put a starcannon (one of the best weapons in the game) on pretty much anything...god I hate starcannons.

I don't really get why Eldar are even in the game and fighting in the first place.They're more advanced than any other race, and they're just like...the best, pretty much, at everything. Why are they even in the game?

[Spjungen]

XD @2:03 Fuckin' sick luck. Ethereals must have been watching over that one.

Eldar are totally op though imo. They can put a starcannon (one of the best weapons in the game) on pretty much anything...god I hate starcannons.

[Spjungen]

XD @2:03 Fuckin' sick luck. Ethereals must have been watching over that one.

[arktheball]

ahAAA pen ah tray teeng XD

[yell0wd]

bra med norske rapporter

[Oliverrikardsson]

svenska!!

[Damenblack]

It's nice to know that no matter what language you speak "pew pew" sounds the same. lol. Thank you for the English translations as well.

[asurman77]

I play Biel-Tan so I specialize in Striking Scorpians, howling Banshees, and Dire Avengers. But I like your Ulthwe army.

[mustardhappy1042]

you should try infiltrating kroot sometime. they are a cheap troops choice, and will butcher gardians

[warhammerfantasygood]

Wow... bright orange kroot...

[Corey91666]

u know what ?

jonas ur from norwegian ^^ thats awesome ;)

and ur doing the best reports on utube ... im rdy for new stuff ^^ so im looking forward to new vids :D

[CraptasticLMAO]

trodde inte det fanns warhammer i norhe lol

[JetpackNinjaDinosaur]

The tau player either got really unlucky with his rolls or is just really bad at the game :O

[Corey91666]

@JetpackNinjaDinosaur well tank shocking a unit with high moral and weapons with strength of 9 is quite dumb but besides that i cant say whether it was his bad gameplay... but that move was really dumb (or desperate) xD

[santaisjewish]

dude you should have shot those guardians with the stealth suits instead on one shot on the tank.

just my two cents.

[jonaslep]

He did both. The Stealth Team Leader had a Target Lock.

[REAPER3382]

how many points waz your army? i am tryin to get some tau with mine but right now i have 23 tatu fire warriors. but would like to get a commander ofcourse. 6 steath suits and a hammerhead. wht else would i need?

[Kirschthollar]

@REAPER3382 devilfish, kroot, lots of crisis battlesuits, and maybe a broadside or two. you should probably get pathfinders too because markerlights really help alot.

[kevinmcd28]

i love how the rules refrences are in english with everything else not, its funny cool, good battke report man =D

[kevinmcd28]

neigh!!!!!!! =D

[FitzyRedStrat]

Those storm guardians were unreal! :D

[UchihaDescendant1335]

aaah norrmän x3

[kevinmcd28]

i just saw some kroot come in and rape up some marines in a apoc game today

[lumpyfishful]

naziiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssss

[twostringguitar]

@lumpyfishful How does Norway have anything to do with the Nazi Party?

[xxgiovajokerxx]

what music is this?? what artist?

[jonaslep]

@xxgiovajokerxx , you should read the video description ;)

[lordoftroy]

Awesome great BR starting to collect space wolves now since im done my tau army=)

[miniwargamereric]

Good match, guardians kicked butt ..somehow :P

[haznmitch]

Ive got saim-hann eldar army but does this mean i HAVE to have my troops as jetbikes?

[jonaslep]

No, it does not. You can do whatever you like.

Even though the fluff (backstory) tells us that Saim-Hann often use their jetbikes and grav tanks when fighting battles, this is not always the case. They have their share of Aspect Warriors, Support Weapon Platforms and Guardians on foot too.

[thedarklordellesar]

i am starting Tau

[0n0a0m0e]

nice battle very close ending

[DefiantTiger]

dude burst cannons get 3 shots....and wheres your MISSILE PODS.

[jabe22moo]

what are the green things called that see where the hit lands.......this is prolly a stupid question

[jonaslep]

Do you mean blast markers?

[clearasil11]

I thought I'd start Ulthwé. Ofcourse I need Storm Guardians but I have no chance of getting a box of them. Any conversion ideas, like, how to make 'em from the regular Guardian box?

[jonaslep]

The Storm Guardians in this video were converted from the regular Guardian box.

I cut the magazine and middle section off the Shuriken Catapults, and glued them back together = Instant Shuriken pistols. I had some chainswords, swords and knives from previous projects, which worked pretty well.

[clearasil11]

You think Chaos Marine chainswords would do?

[jonaslep]

I used the smallest Space Marine chainswords i could find, and they are a little too big.

[patmyweiner]

Im gonna start warhammer 40k wat should I pick Eldar or Tau

[jonaslep]

You should pick the army that has the models you like more. In my experience, that should always be the most important factor when deciding on a new army.

[darthkilzone]

also eldar are a bit harder to paint then other armies tau are the funnest to paint IMO because you have the smooth Armour and then you have the leather like stuff, eldar are fun to paint but there a bit harder also tau are a more range oriented and eldar are more in the middle but its all up to you =D

[Rincewindlolzor]

I agree, eldar are pretty hard. Their armour for the most part is more cloth like that actual armour being all skin tight, so high lighting is extremely difficult.

[HyPeR0HaSHI]

BTW whats yuor view on the cyclic ion blaster and air bursting fragmentation projector? Recommend em?

[TheChaosUndivided]

As a tau player here, i find the Ion blaster better, the ABFP is bit weak i find.

[HyPeR0HaSHI]

When i play against my friends space marines, all the deepstrike kills my gun lines(he plays raven guard). Any tips? plz

thanks

[jonaslep]

If you play Tau, you can use the Positional Relay, and simply reserve everything. He deep strikes his stuff in on a mostly empty board, and your guys are free to walk in from the table edge and shoot everything to pieces.

[HyPeR0HaSHI]

Thanks, awsome!

I'll try that next time I play.

[KnoxyMcKnox]

Either go completely mobile (no stationary units, everything can move fast in some way i.e. all firewarriors in devilfish) or keep everything is reserve and try and go second so his stuff comes in before your stuff.

[AirForce20001]

maybe you need bether attacks???

[SrentienStrahl]

I've been playing Tau for about a year - I am not impressed with the Tau player's level of skill. Points were surrendered easily. Tank-Shocking a Seer Council....yeah..

[jonaslep]

If you check out my blog (see the video description), you will see that my opponent Norau has made a comment on this. This was his fifth game or so, and his first tank shock ever.

Even being a new player, Norau is actually a more skilled opponent than most of the guys i play.

[SrentienStrahl]

Sure. No harm no foul if we learn from mistakes. And being from the outside looking in with experience. - this was quite.. painful to watch. :D

The Stealth suits should have attempted to target the Guardians upon arrival. Did he have Broadside suits at this point? There should have been at least 2 on the field.

More Railguns would have been appricated here, definately.

[jonaslep]

The Stealth Suits did shoot at the Guardians, but they claimed a cover save (barely). They survived relatively unscathed after some lucky cover save rolling.

No, his Broadsides hadn't yet arrived from Forge World, so there was just a single Railgun on the field.

Note that neither of us went for super-optimized builds in this match, just like we normally do. We firmly believe that interesting armies make for more interesting games.

[exterminatoroflight]

why not both i collect both

[jonaslep]

Excellent suggestion!

[HyPeR0HaSHI]

Hey can somone help me choose between tau and necrons? thanks

[jonaslep]

Tau

You're welcome! ^^

But seriously, the Necrons have a really hard time in 5th edition of the game. They should be getting a new codex in a year or two, but until then, the more interesting Codex of the two is definitively Tau Empire.

[HyPeR0HaSHI]

just making sure the tau aren't gonna just drop out anytime soon like the dark eldar did

But there getting models re-done

[thekedgeman]

Is Monat german for Battlesuit?

[jonaslep]

No, a "monat" is a unit consisting of a single Battlesuit.

In the Tau background, a battlesuit team consists of three bonded members. When a member falls in battle, he is not replaced. The "monat" is the sole survivor, and a very experienced battlesuit pilot.

[thekedgeman]

My bad. Forgive me, as I'm not a tau player, i do know that they shoot S**t up. I've been on the recieving end many a time, but as I play necrons they mostly just get back up.

[Cuddy3Da3Cwl]

cool game i wnted the tau to utterly destroy the teams though but both teams were painted well good. cool!!!

[jonaslep]

Yep, just like it says in the video description ;-)

[thevampiredio]

very good battle report! clear and straight to the point.:P

[nuk3p0w3rd]

the hammerhead didnt take its cover save against the speary things :(

[dukem12]

are you guys japanese or something?

[jonaslep]

Nope, we are Norwegians.

[CaptainCrunch80]

Jonaslep one short thing I have to mention.

You have to roll one flamers wondings after the other. This will lead to a little less woundings by the second flamer and the enemy player even can interact by removing the right guys, so the second flamer has less under the template.

You can check this in the rulebook under multiple flamer weapons (p.29 - in my german book at least).

I just thought I had to mention it, because flamers are a little imba if used this way shown here.

[jonaslep]

Actually, they DO work as we played it.

The way you describe it is the way Template weapons worked in 4th edition. However, this is 5th, and Template weapons are pure awesomess!

1: Place all templates

2: Count hits

3: Roll for wounds

4: Roll any armour saves

5: Roll for morale if necessary

6: Win!

[CaptainCrunch80]

No it's 5th, I swear man! One template after another, check it up.

Play just like you like it most! One guy just wanted to own me like that, and we read it in the rulebook lately, so I thought I should share for the sake of your enemys ;)

[jonaslep]

Haha, then I guess the translation in the German book is a little off.

I'll just quote from the English Warhammer 40k 5th edition rulebook, page 29:

If a unit is firing more than one template weapon, resolve each shot, as described above, determining and recording how many hits are scored by each template.

Note that it says *hits*, not wounds. All hits from all shooting from the unit currently firing are resolved before any to-wound rolls are made.

Templates are imba, man! They rock!

[ShasoDnarb]

Jonaslep is correct. Templates effectively stack.

[CaptainCrunch80]

Nevertheless, did I mention that your battle reports are great? They are!!

[jonaslep]

Hey, thanks a lot!

I'm currently editing the next one, which will be Dark Eldar vs my regular Tau opponent. Stay tuned!

[twomz]

"For the greater good" is the same in English and Norwegian? Awesome.

[jonaslep]

Ha ha, yeah! We use *a lot* of "norwenglish" when we play the game. It is often easier for us to use the english term than translating on the fly.

Trust me, the norwegian translation of "for the greater good" sounds very corny!

[ShasoDnarb]

*Great* upload!... the game is good, the video is excellent, but I think most of all, the text explanations are perfect!

I think this is the best video on YouTube for beginning 40K players to learn how a game plays out.

[dreadloom]

cool