@Mohrkai What we were saying is that there are British accentS and American accentS, but not really one British or American accent that spans the whole of the country. :)
@Sesquipedaliantique I've recently moved to the far north of England. Once these people get drunk, I'm completely lost. Stick to your Estuary - it's lovely!
@NathanWGregg Holy shit, PNG? I had considered traveling through when I thought my Aussie visa renewal would only take up to four weeks. It took four months and I reckon I would have been destitute! Tell me more, seriously.
wow my home town... Its kinda strange coming across people on the internet who know of Brisbane or have lived there... And not being able to attend UQ that's a shame. If you were looking to study linguistics I'd recommend UQ even though that would be totally biased... OK totally random comment....
No, it's not chiding at all, like I said no personal criticism intented. I guess what made me write the comment was I thought that the comparison of 'british accent' and 'european accent' was a little mismatched, since the former talks about dialects and the latter talks about different languages. It's something I've noticed a lot on tv and stuff, that people from one continent are lumped into one 'category' or 'race'
But it wasn't directed at you, it was more a case of, why has it come about?
On a related note, Sydney is an incredibly diverse city, and being in the South Pacific, Australia in general definitely attracts a lot of immigrants from Asia. I found it hard to adjust to Australians referring to Indians & Pakistanis as "Asian". I agree, some labels are just too broad!
Lol we dont, at least not in the media, Sydney or anywhere iv been in Australia (im Australian). They do that in the UK, deffs not in Aus tho. Maybe it was a pom livin in aus.
Btw this isn't a personal criticism, I understand most people in the USA talk about people being from Europe instead of France/Turkey/Slovakia/Iceland/Bulgaria/Estonia/Germany etc etc... I just don't get why!
I'm a little confused by where this chiding is coming from. I only mention "European" once in this video, and it's to exemplify the fact that labeling something a "European accent" is too broad. This means that I personally consider a lot narrower linguistic groupings.
Since I'm not British OR European, I can't really answer your other rant about why British people don't like to be called European, though I suspect it has something to do with being completely disconnected from mainland Europe.
The romance languages bear hardly any resemblance to the slavonic languages... a typical italian will have dark hair, dark eyes and an olive complexion, while the average swedish person will have fair hair, blue eyes and pale skin!
Obviously there are links between certain countries, the balkans, former soviet union, etc. But the only thing that ALL 'Europeans' have in common is that they are human beings. And they live in Europe, lol.
I don't understand why all people from Europe, apart from British people, are referred to as 'Europeans'!!!
The diversity is MASSIVE - There are 45 countries, meaning 45 different languages, cultures, traditions, histories, appearances... And a British person is just as much European as a French person!
How do Welsh people look? I only know four and they're all totally different-looking! Thanks for the accent reassurance too, it's weird living in a place where everyone is always paying attention to how you say certain words.
I used to think that I had the standard American accent... then someone pointed out that I diphthong everything and pronounce the hell out of my R's and L's... but I guess a Northwestern accent isn't bad. Could be worse.
hah yeah I think we all have our little quirks, even if it's icing on top of the old GA accent. My dad is Canadian, and since being around Australians (who have a rounder accent), I've found myself pronouncing some words the Canadian way instead of Australian or American. I've never even lived there. Bizarre. PS I prefer rhotic accents by far. So keep on keeping on.
So what you're saying is I should start talking Linguistics in bars from now on? Here I was talking about how OOPS I SPILLED MY DRINK ON MY WHITE SHIRT and wondering why I wasn't getting any action...
smart is way sexier... it makes me all confused and i don't know what you're saying so my brain goes right to physical contact. it's the fast track. hahaha ;)
I agree that there's no 'British' accent, there are British accents and, by the same token, no 'English' accent but English accents.
I don't think it's right to say Estuary English is the new RP though. RP is what it is and Estuary is what it is. Also, Estuary is a regional dialect, where RP is not.
I was talking more socioculturally. RP fell out of fashion as the "in" dialect of the educated, wealthy, upwardly mobile, etc. In some sociolinguistic studies, Estuary English is considered to be the new prestige accent. So of course they differ between possible regional distinction, but I think they're similar in social perception in two separate times.
English is a language spoken widely through the world, but British is the name applied to the range of accents and dialects found in Great Britain. In fact, most commonly, the British accent is used to refer to, well, my type of accent, commonly found around the south of England, as opposed to the regional dialects found in the midlands and north.
(The person I was replying to had said that Welsh and Scottish were British accents, so I was correcting them.. though I might be wrong myself, lol)
Actually, what they said was that British wasn't an accent and that perhaps I meant to say 'English', which of course I didn't, because English is a possessive cultural identity and not a dialectic grouping, at least, I think - it's been way too long since I studied English language, art study has made me lazy!
I saw that comment, which is really what I was responding to. I think Welsh and Scottish are British dialects, and yours is also a British dialect - Estuary English. Here's a good overview on Wikipedia (a God among internet mortals):
I was also somewhat wrong, as I included Irish as a Great British accent, whereas they show it on its own. Anyway, we could go on boring people with Linguistics. But I'll stop. Now.
@Mohrkai What we were saying is that there are British accentS and American accentS, but not really one British or American accent that spans the whole of the country. :)
TheGapYears 1 week ago
@Mohrkai You nailed it! 'This girl' is from New York, but her father is Canadian.
TheGapYears 1 week ago
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Mohrkai 1 week ago
she's gourges isn't she?
parsizaban 9 months ago
Hehe, your accent isn't very Welsh. I'm Welsh :)
shaabangles 1 year ago
@Sesquipedaliantique I've recently moved to the far north of England. Once these people get drunk, I'm completely lost. Stick to your Estuary - it's lovely!
TheGapYears 1 year ago
What accent/dialect do you speak in this video?
Tempus0 1 year ago
@Tempus0 I'm originally from upstate New York, but by this point I'd been living in the South Pacific for nearly three years. So it's anyone's guess!
TheGapYears 1 year ago
estuary english is like an essex accent not queen's english
booshpower 1 year ago
@booshpower There's a lot of research that's been done proving that the Queen's English is drifting away from RP and towards Estuary...
TheGapYears 1 year ago
You're a complete and utter retard.
RobertByrne09 1 year ago
@RobertByrne09 I know right.
TheGapYears 1 year ago
@NathanWGregg Holy shit, PNG? I had considered traveling through when I thought my Aussie visa renewal would only take up to four weeks. It took four months and I reckon I would have been destitute! Tell me more, seriously.
TheGapYears 1 year ago
You do the worst welsh accent I've ever heard
nickyboy22071989 1 year ago
@nickyboy22071989 I do the worst Welsh accent I'VE ever heard!
TheGapYears 1 year ago
@TheGapYears good you can admit it lol and it's easy to tell you're american haha not that that's a bad thing :)
nickyboy22071989 1 year ago
gessing u are amrican
over here we just call it tea
not tea with milk
TheEastendgirl 1 year ago
@TheEastendgirl Can you not tell I'm American? I thought it was tattooed on my voice. Not sure whether to be chuffed or offended ;)
TheGapYears 1 year ago
okay love got the welsh accent sooo wrong that was irsh
whach gavin and stacey
u well then c that
that was deffow not welsh
sorry maty
TheEastendgirl 1 year ago
@TheEastendgirl Haha gotta love a girl for trying?
TheGapYears 1 year ago
Haha, you're sort of right about Australians, at least the younger generation.
Most people my age go out on weekends with the specific intent of getting off their face.
Though I'm not sure if its any different in other countries.
Unfortunately we're also a pretty racist country, which I find really disappointing considering we're a multiracial nation.
Vonderdale 2 years ago
@Vonderdale I'm getting ready to leave now, and it must be said... I'll miss the terrific beer and outrageous racism. I'm about to shed a tear.
TheGapYears 1 year ago
wow my home town... Its kinda strange coming across people on the internet who know of Brisbane or have lived there... And not being able to attend UQ that's a shame. If you were looking to study linguistics I'd recommend UQ even though that would be totally biased... OK totally random comment....
linolion 2 years ago
your voice sounds like ugly betty. no offensive your really pretty. you just have her voice.
keep making awesome videos![[:
makeupandhairtips 2 years ago
haha thanks! I think Ugly Betty rocks, no offense there. I've never been compared vocally to someone though...it's weird/cool.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
No, it's not chiding at all, like I said no personal criticism intented. I guess what made me write the comment was I thought that the comparison of 'british accent' and 'european accent' was a little mismatched, since the former talks about dialects and the latter talks about different languages. It's something I've noticed a lot on tv and stuff, that people from one continent are lumped into one 'category' or 'race'
But it wasn't directed at you, it was more a case of, why has it come about?
chloliz131 2 years ago
On a related note, Sydney is an incredibly diverse city, and being in the South Pacific, Australia in general definitely attracts a lot of immigrants from Asia. I found it hard to adjust to Australians referring to Indians & Pakistanis as "Asian". I agree, some labels are just too broad!
TheGapYears 2 years ago
Lol we dont, at least not in the media, Sydney or anywhere iv been in Australia (im Australian). They do that in the UK, deffs not in Aus tho. Maybe it was a pom livin in aus.
murf69 2 years ago
Btw this isn't a personal criticism, I understand most people in the USA talk about people being from Europe instead of France/Turkey/Slovakia/Iceland/Bulgaria/Estonia/Germany etc etc... I just don't get why!
Hehe sorry for my bit of a rant, I'm done now :P
It's something that's always confused me
chloliz131 2 years ago
I'm a little confused by where this chiding is coming from. I only mention "European" once in this video, and it's to exemplify the fact that labeling something a "European accent" is too broad. This means that I personally consider a lot narrower linguistic groupings.
Since I'm not British OR European, I can't really answer your other rant about why British people don't like to be called European, though I suspect it has something to do with being completely disconnected from mainland Europe.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
@TheGapYears well dune all soo it a bit like the canada not wont to be called amrican
we have our owen back ground thank u very much
TheEastendgirl 1 year ago
...continued from last one....
The romance languages bear hardly any resemblance to the slavonic languages... a typical italian will have dark hair, dark eyes and an olive complexion, while the average swedish person will have fair hair, blue eyes and pale skin!
Obviously there are links between certain countries, the balkans, former soviet union, etc. But the only thing that ALL 'Europeans' have in common is that they are human beings. And they live in Europe, lol.
chloliz131 2 years ago
I don't understand why all people from Europe, apart from British people, are referred to as 'Europeans'!!!
The diversity is MASSIVE - There are 45 countries, meaning 45 different languages, cultures, traditions, histories, appearances... And a British person is just as much European as a French person!
chloliz131 2 years ago
Don't know if you've noticed it, but a lot of teenagers in Australia have a half-American-half-American accent?
SUCH a shame that all the regional accents are dying in England. People from Liverpool sound like they're from London now. HATE Estuary English.
Same in America, I believe. 'New Jwoysey' ? Nope, just standard American.
BBQjust4u 2 years ago
i can go with the you looking welsh thing.
but your accent - anything but. good accent :D
whatsername14 2 years ago
How do Welsh people look? I only know four and they're all totally different-looking! Thanks for the accent reassurance too, it's weird living in a place where everyone is always paying attention to how you say certain words.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
I used to think that I had the standard American accent... then someone pointed out that I diphthong everything and pronounce the hell out of my R's and L's... but I guess a Northwestern accent isn't bad. Could be worse.
JamieDanger 2 years ago
hah yeah I think we all have our little quirks, even if it's icing on top of the old GA accent. My dad is Canadian, and since being around Australians (who have a rounder accent), I've found myself pronouncing some words the Canadian way instead of Australian or American. I've never even lived there. Bizarre. PS I prefer rhotic accents by far. So keep on keeping on.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
:( :( :(
lsdmighthelpyou 2 years ago
You're just so cute and sexy. Your voice is so sweet . I want to be your new internet boy. Can we email? Are you still living down under?
lsdmighthelpyou 2 years ago
Yes I'm still living down under and I already have an internet boy. Thanks though.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
i think i might want your brain... sexually. ;)
BilliLovesMargot 2 years ago
So what you're saying is I should start talking Linguistics in bars from now on? Here I was talking about how OOPS I SPILLED MY DRINK ON MY WHITE SHIRT and wondering why I wasn't getting any action...
TheGapYears 2 years ago
smart is way sexier... it makes me all confused and i don't know what you're saying so my brain goes right to physical contact. it's the fast track. hahaha ;)
BilliLovesMargot 2 years ago
Yeah I was being ridiculous. My usual bar pick-up style is to make a guy uncomfortable until he leaves. (Without me.) Sex-ay!
TheGapYears 2 years ago
*in now uncomfortable and leaves without you.
BilliLovesMargot 2 years ago
Yeah! That sounds more like it!
...wait...
TheGapYears 2 years ago
I agree that there's no 'British' accent, there are British accents and, by the same token, no 'English' accent but English accents.
I don't think it's right to say Estuary English is the new RP though. RP is what it is and Estuary is what it is. Also, Estuary is a regional dialect, where RP is not.
novanine 2 years ago
I was talking more socioculturally. RP fell out of fashion as the "in" dialect of the educated, wealthy, upwardly mobile, etc. In some sociolinguistic studies, Estuary English is considered to be the new prestige accent. So of course they differ between possible regional distinction, but I think they're similar in social perception in two separate times.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
Thanks for responding :]
ARG! Socio-linguistics, haven't heard that term since college :P
haha, somebody actually mentioned the English-isn't-an-accent thing further down in my video comments, to which I said:
jerryhcooke 2 years ago
English is a language spoken widely through the world, but British is the name applied to the range of accents and dialects found in Great Britain. In fact, most commonly, the British accent is used to refer to, well, my type of accent, commonly found around the south of England, as opposed to the regional dialects found in the midlands and north.
(The person I was replying to had said that Welsh and Scottish were British accents, so I was correcting them.. though I might be wrong myself, lol)
jerryhcooke 2 years ago
Actually, what they said was that British wasn't an accent and that perhaps I meant to say 'English', which of course I didn't, because English is a possessive cultural identity and not a dialectic grouping, at least, I think - it's been way too long since I studied English language, art study has made me lazy!
jerryhcooke 2 years ago
I saw that comment, which is really what I was responding to. I think Welsh and Scottish are British dialects, and yours is also a British dialect - Estuary English. Here's a good overview on Wikipedia (a God among internet mortals):
TheGapYears 2 years ago
[Wiki: English Dialects] I can't post the link :(
I was also somewhat wrong, as I included Irish as a Great British accent, whereas they show it on its own. Anyway, we could go on boring people with Linguistics. But I'll stop. Now.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
woah. quite the linguistics lesson.
finchiphile 2 years ago
hah, well, I'm not a professor yet, but at least I can play one on YouTube.
TheGapYears 2 years ago
upside down lol
Rednuts142 2 years ago
YouTube has a strange interpretation of April Fools.
TheGapYears 2 years ago