Echelon Spy Satelites - Part 1

[KOmaSHOOTER]

Do they have a job website?

[KOmaSHOOTER]

well this is not a bad employer ;-D

[privater7one]

In December 1932, the Polish Cipher Bureau first broke Germany's military Enigma ciphers. Five weeks before the outbreak of World War II, on 25 July 1939, in Warsaw, they presented their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment to French and British military intelligence. Thanks to this

[88888FORCE]

NSA WhistleBlower Says,

" WE SPY ON EVERYONE."

Dec-20-2011--The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy (AKA "Warrantless Wiretapping") concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the war on terror.

The NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor, without search warrants, phone calls, Internet activity (Web, e-mail, etc.), text messaging, communication .

INFO-AWARENESS -

[julianrussell]

they could be, but are you that interesting?

[CRACKFACE86]

@julianrussell ya lol every one on you tube already sees what we are typing...........

[CT2507]

the war on terror is a lie and all this echelon system with thousands of workers couldn't stop some towel-headed terrorists form taking down the 2 towers with planes... if we are to believe official story.

[JbmxG89]

I personally don't have anything to worry about. So to everyone making a big deal about this, you need to stop using "freedoms" as the basis against every security system. You get angry if an employer looks at your facebook page and doesn't hire you because you do questionable things. Half the time people openly post the questionable things they do, yet all these people are angry that there's a network listening in for this stuff? As long as you aren't doing something wrong, you are fine.

[Raschid94]

THUMBS UP FOR "THIRD ECHELON" ^^ :-)

[quantitron]

It s possible who , more satellites communication , modified the global climate about the high frequency of the satellites at the passage in the high region of the ionosphere.

[LevitskiSRGE]

Great money burning machine

[RudyKazoootie]

The NSA is awesome!

[brunster64]

The most concerning aspect of the monitoring is the ability to make and break business and contol at higher levels Monitoring of the brand of shaver you buy or the youtube content you watch is a straw arguement which makes most "sheeple" think we all wear tin foil hats. I've been aware of all this and commented on the subject for decades but have never had any black helicopter following me - nor do I expect to - as they are not concerned with individuals on this level.

[cusanusnicolas]

@brunster64 Knock on wood. :)

[lckahadugoda]

If you want to spy on a computer, try downloading SpyRecon software. I used it to secretly monitor my daughter's emails

[cusanusnicolas]

@lckahadugoda ummm, you shouldn't, the NSA can get away with anything, but it's a strange world.

[pickupthePWN]

yea dont forget, all these comments are monitored.

[rockstarMileyCyrus]

the war on terrism is a fable of the Satanic controling shadow gov who want to usher in the NWO. They are just puppeting the Muslims to create the Chaos in the Order Out of Chaos motto they live by.

[LogitechXibanga]

i have an idea for possible terrorists lets get back on the time and use birds to delivery mails or lets use an old technology like from the stone age the modern tech its not prepared to to the old technology because no one uses it anymore so there's no point of program the modern tech to reed the old tech and thats the USA weak problem they think they are better then every one else thats why no 1 likes them lol

[RainbowManification]

Is it just me or Is it so unsettling that the government may even by looking at what I am typing right now.

[Parham1995]

@RainbowManification LOL unless you somehow (mistakenly) installed an RAT software on your device, you need not worry. But you can worry about your comments getting read by the Echelon. =P

[CRACKFACE86]

@RainbowManification Yes it is very sickening thats why a break alot of the goverments rules, as long as it doesnt affect my fellow citizens

[Sheemcityboy]

NSA = Illuminati

[scintillaanimae2]

@Sheemcityboy NSA=terrorists

[dtc526]

"It's so super secret" yea thats why it was broadcast on national tv and posted all over youtube.

[NeutralExistence]

@dtc526

Everything becomes open eventually.

The Manhattan Project was a huge secret, and it did not get out until it became irrelevant.

Same thing happened with Echelon, NSA has a better method now, and its irrelevant.

[speakrecords]

Echelon is a weapon, depending on whose controlling the thing results in your security. People are the greatest treat not "countries".

[Rui108]

Echelon must have been broken that day because there were no weapons of mass destruction on Iraq.

[guruartist]

Some of the people writing here should take grammar lessons...

[guruartist]

Some people writing here should take some grammar lessons!

[entrapmentadored]

i want that facial recognition thing.

[goscott4]

Then, a Mighty Angel picked up a boulder shaped like a huge Mill Stone, and threw it into the

Atlantic Ocean,

and cried mightily with a loud voice saying!!

Just as I have thrown away this stone, the great city of Babylon will be thrown down with violence , and shall never be found again!!!

The Book Of Revelation, Chapter 18 verse 21

[dippywatcher]

SO secret it's on History Channel...

[TheZenMasterVII]

splinter cells?

[danschaoticmind]

@DavidsServerDotNet The united states caqnnot without a warrent collect on it's own citizens. The NSA wiretapping operation was unwarrented taps on people who were calling from the U.S. to suspected terrorist cells

[shama445]

stop new world order today.... tell your friends... share the info... go ZEITGEIST...

[xXDYNAMiiC]

not the most secret anymore :L

[TheDjTeee]

It makes me scared to know that some people can read my e-mails or sms etc.

[RimlandThesis]

ECHELON is a name used in global media and in popular culture to describe a signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network operated on behalf of the five signatory states to the UK–USA Security Agreement (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, known as AUSCANZUKUS).

IT IS NOT JUST AMERICAN STUPID!

[geetarplayer4ever]

I guess it's not a secret anymore now that we're talking about it.. lol

[JB1087]

England, Australia & New Zealand are America's b!tch hahaha

[stdavross666]

@JB1087 your a bitch you seppo cunt

[dust2dust3313]

pul e charki

[blkbookwizz]

And we are saying after all this that the "democratic government" in nuclear bearing Russia (US strategic enemy) is not being controlled by the USA?

They are their freaking poppets.

[blkbookwizz]

Why is that no-one said that those radars they are putting up in Poland, Chech Republic and Romania to protect us from Iran, may as well belong to a newer class of intercepting facility. This would explain their WEIRD geographic location.

Same as for Manas US airbase in Kyrgizstan, that just has to sit there no matter what.

I DON'T WANT YOU STINKING NSA RATS TO DIG IN MY DIRTY NICKERS THANKS

[danschaoticmind]

@blkbookwizz The reason they are in weird locations is because of trajectory. If you knew a thing about guided missile and space flight dynamics you would have understood that. Simply put it is best to take a high arc to hit a target rather than a straight line (Which actually drifts south thanks to rotation) you see planes do it all the time on commercial international flights...

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind That's right if you believe they are anti-missile facilities. However, if you believe they are intercepting ECHELON backyard stations, it expains why Morong 65 kilometres from Kaliningrad was chosen. Russia is moving to 3G and NextG networks in all commercial communications bearing commercial secrets, 3G and NextG are TV range frequencies, this means that the signal covers a small area, then it is absorbed by water in the air. You cannot intercept 3G/4G from further than 100km.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ Yes you can And I don't mean land based either. Learn a thing or two about radio wave propagation.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind Well, don't teach it a qualified electrical engineer, "baby"! Good luck. High frequency EMI atmospheric absorbtion is a high school course that you aparently didn't learn.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ lol. You apparently fail to realize that high frequency atmospheric absorbptions net dispersion factor does not affect most 3g networks and microwave networks (You know the basic carrier structure shooting from tower to tower) especially because on the L band and running easily up through the rest the only atmospheric phenomena which affect communications occur in the SHF range and 3G is inside of the L C and Ku bands. which are unaffected.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ I mean seriously. I know you are not gonna come here and tell me the basis of VSAT a commercially active and partnered is pointless cause "Radio waves get absorbed by the atmosphere." And if you mean HF then you are even more wrong. Ionospheric propagation theory asserts (And proves) that HF waves are easily attenuated in phase with their propagation angle. meaning they travel further but do not escape excepting when the D and E layers are dispersed and f1 and f2 combine.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind I THINK U ARE EATING YOUR MONEY FOR NOTHING, U SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT JOB THAT I HAVE IN VSAT.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ Then you know full well that 20 meter dishes are only used when handling multiple bands and clusters. VSAT is meant to handle a very select band and meant to have a respectable KA KU band reception and retransmission.

Granted you get plenty of C band though... The point is that when you use multiple bands as most telecomms companies do, you have to use adequate dishes which can receive on the multiple bands. You don't expect a vsat to do all 6 do you?

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind go away, they are used to track high frequency telecom emissions from orbital distances, like in Echelon Waihopai. u better play basketball.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ Because look, even when you have the repeater towers, you should know full well that band conversion into the microwave region allows for not only line of sight but the ability for it to propagate out into space. Why else do you think the Error correction algorithms have been combined with redundant overhead systems? You get spill off and you have to make certain that the full signal is received. So you sitting here arguing that 3g is absorbed shows you know nothing about RF.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind REPEATER TOWERS ARE TRACKING DEVICES!!! DIDN'T U KNOW THAT??? THEY ARE MAINS POWERED AND CABLE CONNECTED. U CAN'T TRACK A CELLPHONE FROM A 36.000 KM ORBIT! U CAN'T TRACK A REPEATER TOWER TOO.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ So, you will excuse me if I say "Herp de derp" in regards to your ignorant comment. Especially when I can point at HAM sats which operate from 147-1Ghz And are not affected by EMI atmospheric absorption.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind ignorant are u and u also lack education. we are talking personal communication devices and their emissions and NOT sattellite beams, frequency is absorbed counter-proportionate to distance! Go to school.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ And that is where you failed. You see. Interception is best done by satellites. You should know this is you work VSAT. you would know all about repeater collection and Of course star and mesh network configurations using overhead as a relay system for efficiency.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind u are an idiot. there is no sattellite created YET that can track a cellphone on earth.

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ You've never heard of GSM have you?

Besides, who needs a satellite to do that when the repeaters already do it.

Hint, hand off.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind GSM??!! are u in the 19th century? 3g and 4G aren't GSM, but WCDMA, u are either in Nairobi or Catetown slum. The only thing heard on orbit os radio and TV TOWERS, not cellphones!

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ GSM is more widely used than 3g simply because of cost effectiveness.

Ease of installation, and has some MAD error correction capabilities. Most of the world uses GSM. So here's the question:

If everyone of interest is likely to use GSM and we are looking in an area with no 3G network. Would we bother with 3G?

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ So to sum it all up: 1. you have very little understanding of wireless communications.

2. Eschelon means structure for communication and priority.

3. It makes more sense to have a system in place to detect and track in old eastern block countries because of missile trajectory.

4. 3g and GSM do use satellite communications because of the need for efficient transmission over great ranges without significant db loss.

5. Don't argue RF with an RF engineer.

[dippywatcher]

@danschaoticmind cool comeback to JRinNZ, man...

Where did you get your degree?

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind Yeah?! Can they track a 3.7 volt emission 3G and 4G cellphone traffic from the 36.000 km geostatic orbit now? This is a new word in science!!! Must be either of two: an alien technology or some stuff that they put in McDonalds THAT MAKE YOU STUPID! LOL

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind WHY IS THAT THEY ARE STILL USING A 20 METER DISH FOR SATTELLITE COMMUNICATIONS AND IN ECHELON STATIONS HERE IN NZ THEN!!! HAHAHA U ARE A JOKE. IF 3G AND 4G CAN BE TRACKED FROM THE ORBIT, THEN THERE MUST BE A SATTELLITE BEARING A 20 METRE DISH FLYING OUT THERE!!! LOL. HAVE U LAUNCHED IT ALREADY FROM FLORIDA ON ONE OF THOSE ABOUT TO GO "SPACE PLANES"? OR MAYBE YOU'LL PUT A STATIONERY SHIP NEXT TO KALININGRAD SHORE TO MAKE IT A NON-LAND BASED INTERCEPTION FACILITY!?

[danschaoticmind]

@JRinNZ You are kidding right?

Dude. Seriously. Go get a fucking education you ignorant little child.

Or better yet, how about enlisting and getting stationed at one of these sites and seeing that your conjecture is baseless.

[JRinNZ]

@danschaoticmind FUCK OFF U STUFFED NIGGER!

[xadam2dudex]

and the US government talks about the KGB and other groups that oppress their people.. the NSA is just as oppressive and violates personal liberty even more now with the Patriot Act..Big Brother has been here for years

[simpul]

The British DID NOT broke the Enigma. Memorize it once for all - it was done in 1932 by three Poles: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Żygalski. Use google in case of doubts.

[brradsed]

well, yes they cracked the first version and did the hard part of the job. Then the brittish guys took this to help when the germans improved the Enigma.

[CodeTwo2]

@simpul "The British DID NOT broke the Enigma. Use google in case of doubts."

Using Google and reading fully will show that the Poles broke the earlier version of the code. The breaking of later encryption and operational wartime message transmissions (largely with regard to U boats) was done by the British. No one nation had total monopoly on it.

[lordart21]

@simpul unfortunately, many Americans and Britts are not aware of this.

[arachn1dinshoe]

@simpul True - but the other part of the brilliance of this was that the British built one of the earliest computers, to continually use those broken codes to perform bulk-intercepts of German signals.

So I'd give Kudos for this to both the Poles and the Brits. Brilliant effort by both.

[TheNetHasEyes1]

@simpul Spot on! The Poles stole an Enigma machine and gave it to us brits

[Norwegian733]

@simpul Yes, but the british designed bombes and the bombes were buildt by the americans. The brits had 2- 3 bombes before, but they hardly worked and were not functional.

[MrGaptech]

@Norwegian733

What utter rubbish. Visit Bletchley and the museum or read a decent book, not just a pop-up one. Beltchley built over 200 bombe machines before the US was even involved in the war. By 1942 they were semi-obsolete anyway as the Germans were using Lorenz machines, and 4-rotor Enigmas and the bombes were too slow, ergo the Robinson machine and then Colossus, the world's first digital electronic computer.

[boazandjiacinth]

@simpul for real? i didnt know they even had the enigma that early, im not saying you r wrong, could you send me some info, anything on youtube etc would great, thanx ;)

[MrGaptech]

@simpul

There wasn't "an enigma code", you arsehole. There was an Enigma machine with various different models and ever user had a different "code". The Polish team were brilliant in reverse-engineering the design PRINCIPLE, but it wasn't an in-out decoder. Every single message had to be subject to increasing sophisticated de-crypts requiring hours of brainwork and then processing by Colossus 1 & 2. For that Turing and Tommy Flowers are the heros.

[BoertiV]

Now, i´ll never make a telephone- call with KGB or MOSSAD again. I have´nt known, that this is possible in our real world. I am dissapointed!

[Nueroactive]

Tell me about it, I walked naked in front of my tv. And then next I knew media sources were reporting, what a block head I was for not respondng to their insults of being called the streaking tiger. Damned if you do damned if you don't. I am careful to walk fully briefed infront of the tv now. And to wear extra thick space diapers for no leaks.

[PinguinoForrox]

I with a 486 PC and a modem would make good shit ECHELON services and even the CIA itself. we'll see who gets stuck shit. yet with such machines, they could not with me. UKUSA die ...

[BANDiTiSM]

Echelon is not a weapon against terrorism

its a weapon against Freedom

[RichardCyberPunk]

@BANDiTiSM , Echelon can be used for the Good, but also for the Bad, if it turns bad against humans, I call it Big Brother... remember the Matrix.....

[HomleandSecurity]

@BANDiTiSM No, Echelon guarantees our freedom.

[as0k0]

@BANDiTiSM true mate!

[rickyibarra]

@BANDiTiSM Yup, a weapon against bad guys freedom. If you behav you stay good.

[1337h347]

So, after spending billion of dollars and the effort of thousands of people, the result has been so far that flying in a NO-FLY zone, over a hostile country is quite dangerous? ...a three year old could tell ya that!

They can eavesdrop all they want, but that didn't stop does 19 loons from hijacking a bunch of airliners. It didn't stop those loons in Spain, the UK or Indonesia.

Infiltration and bribing works much better.. coss, everyone is greedy

[pepemark]

jajajajajaj!!!!! the most secret????????

[nilbud]

Tsk this shit is so old, it's only "secret" in the US.

[ftsmallwood]

Yes, this is the War on America. I can't wait for those liberals pussy's to arrest Mr. Evil Retard666 and imprison all those Patriot Act-loving right-wing talk show hosts he listens to. I salute Barack Obama as a "Great American". It will be incredible to see the faces of those right-wingers when they are put in jail under the War on Americans Act, using evidence gathered and authorized under the Patriot Act and FISA. It'll be so funny and sad, that I might die laughing in a pool of tears.

[kjax76]

When do you suppose this might happen? *You* are hilarious.

[ftsmallwood]

Oh, you're so right, the Dems would never threaten freedom of speach by accusing a major TV network of not being a news organization. Neither would the Repubs do such a thing. Nixon never did anything bad with his enemies list. Only countries such as Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia would engage in such acts. We love our freedoms here and wouldn't let anyone take them away. I agree with you,I was just being ridiculus when I made my post. America is a great country and our freedoms are protected.

[ftsmallwood]

The Patriot Act, Fisa and the War on Drugs are just used against bad people. The rest of us don't have anything to worry about. Bring it on, more spy/speed cameras, real ID etc. We need to arrest all those right-wing terrorists before they attack Pres Obama and our government. Janet Napolitiono was totally correct they are a threat to our society, just look at what happened in Oklahoma City. That's proof that right wingers are dangerous and need to be watched and controlled.

[Nueroactive]

Boo! AHHHHAAAA boo! BOO! Am I a convincing terrorist? Or do I need to come to your doorstep at an appointed time with a few code trigger words and make reference to cleaning. If I show you minature coffin sizes for all the members in your family along with strange liquid in bottles with references to cleaning the flesh off your bones. That is terror! Right wing is only part of a bird. A true terrorist is it's own bird! Terrorists in high tech terrorize with devices and communications that burn.

[mizutofu]

Echelon has been used not just for law enforcement, but also industrial espionage and technology theft.

[BANDiTiSM]

Echelon is illegal, and the individual involved in it are closely watched by security organisations around the world

[DocGreen15]

What's having anything to hide got to do with Privacy?

Your obviously still a child!

[666devilretard666]

Whoever thinks this is wrong is a COMPLETE liberal pussy. The technology used for ECHELON is incredible and will no doubt lead to other advances in the field of computational AI research and development. SUCK MY COCK LIBERAL CRY BABY FAGGOTS. I support the war an personal freedoms. My name is 666devilretard666 and i approve this message.

[DocGreen15]

Calling your self a an Evil Retard and putting 666 in your name... need I even say anything more!

[TheTofuGod]

lol

[lordess111]

wow...arresting a couple of terrorist caught. That's totally worth giving away all your privacy.

[topfkopf666]

... this is called patriot act ...

[DocGreen15]

Can anyone tell me where I can see the logo shown at 8.28 please?

Thanks

[pmarceau]

DocGreen15: Check 5.18 of part 3. has a decent image, but I can't make out all the details.

[EMSLS]

If this wasn't conspiracy theory, they would have picked up the plans for 9/11, since they intercept messages only with some keywords.

[witchkiller13]

lol yea.....amazing isn't it? Research Operation Amalgam Virgo , then think really hard about what you just said. By the way.....isn't the Zodiac sign of virgo in association with....ohh...let me think about this....yea that's rite....anyone born in SEPTEMBER before the 22nd is a virgo...hmm...what is 22 divided by 2?

[EMSLS]

As you can see "controling Iraq" wasn't the top objective, they are now leaving it. What I think was behind it all is money, because when a person (country) is at war, it's the only way they can win some "extra cash". It's like when you do some work on the outside in order to win some extra cash so you can overcome the spending you are doing. It's my personal opinion. Thanks for not being rude in your comment LOL

Have a nice week!

[witchkiller13]

You do the same.!

[Darusdei]

Well echelon isnt a conspiracy.

actualy the us gov denied the existance of nsa or echelon(until 2000) and said it all to be a conspiracy theory ;)

[jaysonbuckley]

I cannot believe this! This is the most threatening program to individual liberty the world has ever seen. The US government listens to its own citizens as do ALL of the British "former" colonies. Why does America ally itself with its SWORN ENEMY, England? I am completely saddened that our great Republic has been sold out by our crooked politicians and English agents subversively tearing our contry apart. And with a so-called president who usurped our government..God help us.

[SLAVO1207]

About Enigma - that's a big lie. Enigma code was broken by Polish mathematicians, not by the British and the US as it was said. Polish intelligence has stolen enigma coding device, decoded it and then sent it to the UK (for Poland was occupated by Hitler at the time). How many times will this lie by reproduced? Im kinda sick and tired of the British and Americans taking credit for that success

[CreativeMessage]

Google: "CM1: Massive Domestic Spying via NSA ECHELON"

[waketheoblivious]

As America installed the National Wireless Communication Network that was mandated by our Federal Government it is interesting that the directive was specific the system was to be in compliance with local laws. Amazingly, local laws were obliterated (No Proper Legal Notice) and the Microwave transmitters were installed on school yards! What you don't see can't hurt you? Read ANSI guidelines regarding Radio Frequency Radiation (RFR), because RFR certainly does have a detrimental affect.

[amazingvideo25]

very good vieo

[OurCelestialOrigins]

The greatest conspiracy is that these seeming opposing sides are actually all working for one common force.

That is for fear and separation from spirit.

Hare Krishna

[tracy10UT]

I read a long time ago that the reason each country wants another to spy for it is because there are laws in each country saying they can't spy unnecessarily on their own citizens, so each country spies on the other country's citizens and they simply trade the results.

[PrivateSi]

Was certainly true but many countries are now legalising spying on it's own population. Esp. English speaking nations, spearheaded by the US.

TheOwlMan: I'll certainly forgive you for leaving out MI5, MI6 & GCHQ!! Hello to you spies, go easy on the anti military among us, we mean no1 harm!!

[TheOwlMan]

Hello to all of my "Fans" at the NSA! (Also FBI,CIA,NRO,DHS...etc) Forgive me if I left anyone out...lol

OwlMan

"This is where the fun begins"...

[SNAfuckteria]

lol?

[k1971C]

the rich illuminati will one day have no more need for the mass of humanity and will send out their technologically advanced robotic exterminators to wipe us off the face of the earth,the only chance we have is to earn millions to secure our future and then join them in killing the riff raff once and for all

[PrivateSi]

Seems more plausible with each new year - you can bet Arnie won't be on our side either!!

[veryfuck]

its allready scary enough for me that this video has only 1407 views and the music-video has 157966 views.

[TheOwlMan]

That's because YouTube (Or those pressuring them) screw around with the "Views" of important vids like this one.They do it to make it seem "Less popular" or "Less important" than it REALLY is...So that "Passers by" will just "Move on" without watching it.

They do it to my vids all-the-time (Not to mention vids by Alex Jones)...

OwlMan

ps.They even have "Disinfo-agents" come in here and other places (forums) Just watch at the reaction this comment gets.How I"am just "Crazy", or "Paranoid"...

[TheShock3r]

this is scary. SCARY. the ruling elite are obsessed with power and their agents dont have no idea what they are being part of. i wake people up every single day!