Honestly, yes I think harshness and strictness belongs to ballett! (Maybe not as cranky as this particular lady) In my studio our teacher is hard on us too, but I always know, he does it because he want´s us to get better! He once told me, heßs sorry that hes so harsh sometimes, but he want´s to see me dance. That was all that I needed to hear. When he criticises me now, I know it´s because he believes in me.
If you subscribe to the idea that only the meanest teachers will make you a great ballerina then I suppose you believe that the art itself is one of sadism/ masochism. This woman is inflicting pain, not just offering discipline. I suppose the question is, do you think a good ballerina is, by definition, someone who has endured this kind of treatment. If not, then one can be great, self esteem intact. I think this kind of teacher is for abuse victims who have become accustomed to it.
thats so shocking! its not fair to treat jung dancers like this.
they gave up everything for ballet and do everything, train hard for their dream,....just give everything. teachers should be strict but not like that!!!they should at least appreciate that there are many youn talentated dancers and be glad that they do so much for ballet, its unfair to tell them that they are idiots, or that they cant dance,....they try their best, in russia something really has to change, they should have fun!
she doesnt see it now but later she might...a instructor who pushes that hard sees POTENTIAL and wants to draw it out....it doesnt feel good, but the rewards are great if you can manage to keep your mind focused and not get injured!
I don't get why everybody is going on and on about the strictness and harshness of the ballet instructor. THIS IS BALLET, AN ART, NOT A HOBBY. If you want to "enjoy" ballet, you would find happiness in perfecting your skills. "Enjoyment" by slacking shouldn't be tolerated in ANY professional studio.
ballet teachers should be very strict, but not like that !! this teacher thinks she is the best, and this isn't because everybody is human and humans do some things wrong
I wish my parents had shipped me off to Russia to become a ballerina at the vagonova school...im still a advancer and I'm leaving for NYC next year but living in Russia to be a dancer--you can't get much better than that!
I totally understand that a Russian Ballet instructor is and always was meant to be that way when they're to be teaching Ballet, but it's just taking out the fun of being a ballerina! You can still have a strict teacher who makes you work hard and can still make it fun! ^^ This teaching instructor in the video obviously doesn't understand how she's making the students feel. It's abusive, and that's never the right way to go.
all of you say that this is wrong, but then later say wow these russian ballerinas are really something!
well put the pieces together!!!! In order to be better than good you need to work, very hard and sacrifice. You sell your soul to ballet! So stop all this working is stupid shit, working obviously pays of so if they want to strive to be perfect fine let them be, and you can go do some easy stuff and go no where....
that teacher is A BITCH, you can accomplish more with love then hate. dumb old bitch. those girls are suffering and not even enjoying that their dancing, it's supposed to be fun not torture!
This isn't America, where teachers have the constant threat of being sued if they are "mean" to their students. In Russia it's a different mindset. They don't care, their attitude towards it is, "You chose this life, and if you want it badly then deal with the consequences." And that's why they have better dancers than we do. They are actually helping by weeding out the weak and making the strong stronger.
@fluteplayer I don't think perm is america. i dont think her mother has any sway over the former teacher of nadezdha pavolva. i dont think anyone in the theater will fire this woman. and is o. skoryk had acted out as you suggest i dont think she would be where is today (a dancer with the mariinsky ballet) - as the teacher explains in one of these videos "idiots never dance in this profession."
I understand that teachers must be very tough in these situations, but how is something like "your legs are like missile carriers" going to help her with her dancing?? If the girl wants to excel, which these girls obviously do, than they will take simple comments like "dance more lightly on your legs" to heart. it get the same point across, but in a much kinder way. No girl should have to go through this.
If she had guts, she would tell both her mother and the school board and complain about the issue to them and even fire the instructor and hire a better one that would teach in a professional and assertive demeanor. Though strict, yet reasonable enough to want to have joy in wanting to dance
u r so totaly right! /ballet teachers should NOT be abusive like that.Crtisism is necessary but u shouldn't be too mean with it like she is. Shes simply expecting too much from those por kids! If i was them i would already be back home because shes just down right mean! i didn't hear one good job or great work today all i heard was and i quote, "You idiot you havn't done this right one time!" That girl should not be a ballet teacher if shes going to treat them like that!
there is a difference between being a really tough teacher and being emotionally abusive. And that teacher was emotionally abusive. You do not call people idiots. You tell them that they are doing it incorrectly and that they are going to do it over and over until they do it right. When they do it right, you tell them so. Criticism is necessary in ballet but unless you then tell the girls when they correct their mistakes that they are doing a good job, you are accomplishing nothing.
I know exactly how they feel and it's not a good feeling either it sucks. She has the passion for dance and she shows it. The teacher is just trying to work her and work her until she can't do it any more, thats what my ballet teacher does to me and you might feel like shit at first but once you get it and the teacher tells you that you have done it right its worth everything.
I love dance but not this kind. Yes it is hard work and its supposed to be but your supposed to have fun when you dance. There are days when you have a bad class and you may even cry but dance is supposed to be an enjoyable part of your life. These poor girls are not having fun. They miss their families, they are no doubt constantly getting injured, and they have teachers who yell at them no matter how hard they try.
If these girls were anorexic, they wouldn't be able to do something as strenuous as ballet. Remember that they're dancing ALL DAY LONG. You burn a lot of calories that way.
Wow, from what stalag did they drag that teacher? Was she in the KGB? Good Grief. strict is one thing, abusive is another!! Wow hope they don't connect electrodes to the girl's legs to make a point!!.
I knew a guy from Poland that was trained like this. He was a phenomenal dancer with phenomenal training but he ended up HATING dancing and he quit by the time he was 20. He said his teachers used to throw shoes at him if he screwed up. His whole family danced and his dad regretted all the abuse his son took that drove him to hate dance.
People people, these girls are most likely NOT anorexic. Just because they're all stick thin, doesn't mean they starve themselves. They're all just built thin, small hips, small shoulders, long legs and arms. I know a girl who's just like all of them and trust me, she eats. and that teacher, she may seem a little harsh, but that's what the dance world is like nowadays. You won't always be treated with sugar on top. You have to learn to suck it up and continue doing what you love.
the teacher shouldn't be like that, however, if you were one of those ballet dancers, you'd see why after, if you had ballet like that you would be one of the best. Thats why
the teacher is defenetly right! thats wat ballet is a tough tough work for perfection. It's breaking your body. Giving it unatural, perfect way of dancing. I myself dont feel ballet. Though i have to do it anyway (it's compulsory) i just don't feel it, u know when you are dancing you show how much you love dancing, like contemporary or jazz.
One of my friends was telling me about a Russian guest teacher she had two years ago. The lady used to hold a lighter under their thighs to make them raise higher. A lot of dancers complained about her and she was kicked out of the school.
I can understand the merit in pushing someone. That type of teaching works for people, but to the extent of calling someone names frequently and constantly haranguing them... that's ridiculous.
Well, constantly haranguing someone is fine, but not abuse!
и я такая мама... задумалась, а надо ли продолать, нам 9 лет, пять лет уже диеты и растяжки... Царапанье , а впереди - их матерят и бьют "по спиняке", а мамы за это носят деньги и подарки...
I had a Russian ballet teacher and she kicked me out of class cuz I didn't remember the next step to the dance. She also had a side bar where she would put the people she didn't think were really good. I was proud the day i was allowed to dance on the regular bar rather than that silly side bar. Some of them are really mean though.
@OddSeuss you don't get it. you can actually make someone a primaballerina without abusing them psychically. That teacher has probably a lot of self-hate going on from her childhood, and is giving it the girls so that they can carry the self-hate on.
I wish one of those girls would stand up for herself cause that brings you more than being "made" into a russian ballerina.
@OddSeuss in one way you are right but the other way I think there are lots of other methods to train a ballerina and it doesn t matter how she was taught...
@OddSeuss because she's being CRUEL!!!! she can be mean and tough, but never cruel like that! imagine if you got treated like that even if u were trying your hardest.!
@OddSeuss Because people think it's their God given right to criticize the culture from countries other than their own. Perhaps if people let each country be whatever it wants to be, we'd have less wars.
@OddSeuss so bc she's gone through it, that gives her the right to treat the students that way? i dont think so. i study under a former ballerina, and she has never treated her dancers with disrespect - dance is meant for enjoyment, not to mentally abuse the student.
And anyway it's not only in russia, I used to do folk ballet in Mexico, and I have the same kind of teachers, and they are just preparing you to work in a company, things aren't gonna be easy all the time, you are going to encounter with people who will try to make you feel like shit, and this kind of trainings, will prepare you to deal with this kind of people
at some point during this film, where she says: i lost the most importan thing: the desire. Because nothing good will ever come of it! There are so many girls more clever and talented than me" Not only does this teacher repress her students love for dance, but she also represses their progress. And no, not all russian teachers are like that: Natalia Osipova says about her teacher at the Bolshoi Academy in a different documentary: "She never yells at us, not ever." She doesn´t need to, as
at some point during this film, where she says: i lost the most importan thing: the desire. Because nothing good will ever come of it! There are so many girls more clever and talented than me" Not only does this teacher repress her students love for dance, but she also represses their progress. And no, not all russian teachers are like that: Natalia Osipova says about her teacher at the Bolshoi Academy in a different documentary: "She never yells at us, not ever." She doesn´t need to, as
@OddSeuss It doesn't matter. To call the students idiots is just disrespectful and horrible. A teacher should really know better. But hey, maybe that's a good way to teach and create enthusiasm towards dance during your lessons - to call your studens idiots I mean.
ok, but there's something I don't understand... what's the matter of that? She could be the fattest teacher, and what? A great dancer, can be horrible teaching... and somebody old, fat, whatever but somebody that is not able to dance anymore, could be the best teacher. So, it has no sense your comment...
Saw her dance that little "missle carrier" section of Princess Florine with the Mariinsky on stage this weekend, she was beautiful and after seeing this film it was even more profoundly moving, thanks for letting us see what goes into making these performances a reality
I've watched all of these ballerina vidoes and it's so sad. What makes me sadder is people who say I'd rather have this than my "soft" teacher. If they went to perm for a day they'd take that back.
Btw, some of what she says is lost in translation. For example, on 0:58, when the translation is "Easy, Easy, Masha", what she's actually saying in Russian is "That's correct, good, Masha".
Exactly, and even in the other arts, I've had some rough voice teachers that push and push, and it was hard at times and alot of stress, but it's also helped me in many ways, and I could have easily given up, but I chose not to!
Most Strict AND most abusive. Being merited is not a shield. It shouldn't mean you toss humanity out the window. Being strict is not license for abuse, and that is what we are seeing here.
i HAVE been in a dance class. i was a professional dancer for 20 years. i'm not talking about being soft or hard, i'm talking about abuse and what has been proven and ultimately incorrect teaching/coaching methods by sports psychologists.
how was i supposed to know? I would kill to have her as a teacher. It's not like im getting anywhere at my dance school with the soft teacher i have. Its like being in kindergarten. BRING ON THE BALLET BITCHES!
sorry, i really didn't mean that the way you took it. but, the proof from sport psychologists is in. the 'ballet bitches' do way more damage than good. whats the point of passing something on in that manner. being demanding and strict is okay. i'm merely saying that abuse is not. have you thought about switching schools then?
All the expensive school seem to have the hard instructors anyway. But i guess im ok with mediorce training. Im doing ballet safely with knees over toes and stuff. Strong ankles. You get the picture. But i guess there has to be a line drawn somewhere, even though someone will always cross it.
Even with a soft teacher you should be pushing yourself to work hard enough that it will make a difference. If you really wanna dance then you'll find a way to push yourself.
and to respond to someone's comment below: i think you can train without crush the spirit. actually, with good training (not pampering), i think you can get much better results. try it.
That teacher prolly is just bitter because she did ballet once and now is too old and fat herself and can only give lessons. She prolly didn't make it so far either.
i doubt that, i think this is the teacher´s way of teaching. she thinks this is the only way to get the girls to give everything they´ve got. not uncommon for russian teachers...
are you kidding me? do you know how merited the teachers in the perm school are? perm is thought to be the strictest of the russian ballet schools, and we can all see why
Wow I don't think I'd like to dance like that. I do ballet,and I enjoy it and I mean you do get yelled but not THAT yelled. My dad said that in Russia,their ballet is very very serious and you have to live a hard life for that
dance is somthing that comes from the heart ; these girls are having there dreams crushed by the teacher , pretty soon they wont have a heart this woman would have ripped it out . i feel so sorry for them they trueky are amazing its a shame they dont get tolld that they're amazing . x
Then you should never be a dancer. It's a different life and not everyone can handle it, So to say something so inapropraite and disrespectful makes you worse than they are. They are trying to turn girls and boys into dancers. Not coddle them and make new friends, they are there as trainers not as babysitters
I had russian teachers like this, but it really made me a better dancer. Cause they made us work hard. Sounds weird, but I got used to the name-calling. Most teachers are very nice people, but in class they are strict, to make the students work hard. And it works, russia has the best dancers! :)
and also... don't take the name-calling too serious. I did that for one year and it was like hell. After that year I started to laugh at it and learned not to take it serious. It started to become funny so I could work hard and learn to love the dance again.
She sounded like my double bass instructor in college. I quit the pursuit of a minor degree in instrument performance, but understand what he attempted through insult. Unfortunately, that mentor-insult stuff doesn't work with all talents.
discipline is a very open word. Iam also discipline in my work but with love and character. Msssss Lyudmilla Pavlovna is a monster and perhaps a frustrated ballerina more fat than the student.
Iam also teacher na di do nbot consider any student stupid, I would like to met her and said diorectly. poor girls.Afther they become very could persons and arrogant like my last frends in the National Ballet.
if you really look at this, it's accually pretty sad.. but this is how real ballet is soposed to be.. if you want to become a professional ballerina, you have to go through this pain..
No you don't. Not THIS pain. Pain of perserverence and disatisfaction with ones work and pain of physical labour, yes - but pain of being underweight and mentally insecure? This is not a necessity in ballet training. Yes ballet is hard, but this is not only about ballet.
me too, but that is how they teach in russia and other places and that's why they are really good, it's kinda like in china and gymnastics (no offence to anyone)
I agree - there is a huge difference between correcting someone's mistakes and abusing! It's called teaching - u can be strict and demand dicsipline without bringing students to nervous breakdown!
It is sad, but most effective. If you tell a student the lesson is challenging, that it is difficult, and few can succeed, you make them friends with failure. When you tell they can perform if they apply themselves, that they are slow, and stupid and insolent and are only holding themselves back, they are forced to reach within themselves and overcome. This, like striking a child reaching for fire, is cruel but also necessary. There are other ways, yes, but this is most effective.
I also studied ballet. but the theachers are not alowed to say idiot to any student, distroit the life and meke the suicide like in my school. the teacher some time are very frustrated and asesins.
I still dancing and teaching with love and strict discipline. this russian teacher remember me one I know as a pick anmd criminal. dance es armoni.energy and real learning .
The discipline I learnt from studying ballet is one of the most valuable lessons of my life. I have been teaching ballet for the last 25 years. Ballet is extremely difficult. You can only be good at ballet with strict discipline. Although I would NEVER condone name calling and abuse, we must accept that we will never be as good as the Russians because we are simply not tough enough and we adopt a mamby pamby attitude towards our training and teaching.
I danced as a child in the 70's. My ballet teacher was VERY strict. If our ballet shoes came undone or if our hair pins fell out we had to leave the class and told that we could not return until we could prepare ourselves properly for class. We were not allowed to take the class if we were so much as 30 seconds late. It was normal for all teachers to slap you, I learned my right from left because my teacher would remind me that the stinging leg she just slapped was my RIGHT LEG! lol.
Hi...of course im NOT in favor of mean teachers, but...you see...passion is sometimes so huge, that love breakes barriers, love breaks words like "you idiot" , love for ballet its so intense it needs to tryied on...you see, ballet its passion, passion makes miracles
just curious - are US instructors like this at all? Has anyone ever had anything close to this experience? Not that it really matters, but I was just curious. Wanted to know if this is a universal teaching 'technique.' Because if it is, then ballet really isn't worth it.
no, US instructors or instructors from other countries are not like that. The Perm is known for its mad teachers, but in America, children see ballet as something beautiful, not like a death sentence.
Hmmm interesting. I also wonder if it's a generational thing. A lot of these teachers seem much 'older' - so I feel like when they were these girls' age, they lived in a much stricter time & culture. Thanks for answering. And I'm relieved that these techniques are unique from other countries/cultures - because I love watching ballet, and would hate to support something that sucks the fun and art out of something so beautiful. Didn't realize Perm was like this at all.
i dont think this sort of ballet training is worth having perfect technique . . . . like i'm sure they are all very good, but they probably all hate it. i would not want it to be that way.
Honestly, yes I think harshness and strictness belongs to ballett! (Maybe not as cranky as this particular lady) In my studio our teacher is hard on us too, but I always know, he does it because he want´s us to get better! He once told me, heßs sorry that hes so harsh sometimes, but he want´s to see me dance. That was all that I needed to hear. When he criticises me now, I know it´s because he believes in me.
littlesheep11 1 month ago
If you subscribe to the idea that only the meanest teachers will make you a great ballerina then I suppose you believe that the art itself is one of sadism/ masochism. This woman is inflicting pain, not just offering discipline. I suppose the question is, do you think a good ballerina is, by definition, someone who has endured this kind of treatment. If not, then one can be great, self esteem intact. I think this kind of teacher is for abuse victims who have become accustomed to it.
catherinewheel81 2 months ago 2
thats so shocking! its not fair to treat jung dancers like this.
they gave up everything for ballet and do everything, train hard for their dream,....just give everything. teachers should be strict but not like that!!!they should at least appreciate that there are many youn talentated dancers and be glad that they do so much for ballet, its unfair to tell them that they are idiots, or that they cant dance,....they try their best, in russia something really has to change, they should have fun!
odette9779 4 months ago
@odette9779 Yes. To say "your idiot" is very bad for the pupil. Pfffffffff
mosaiquedo 3 months ago
This teacher is crazy and so bad .
AnouDance 4 months ago
she doesnt see it now but later she might...a instructor who pushes that hard sees POTENTIAL and wants to draw it out....it doesnt feel good, but the rewards are great if you can manage to keep your mind focused and not get injured!
morikahjo 6 months ago
why do there shoes have ribbions if there not on pointe????????????
omg1234352 7 months ago
I don't get why everybody is going on and on about the strictness and harshness of the ballet instructor. THIS IS BALLET, AN ART, NOT A HOBBY. If you want to "enjoy" ballet, you would find happiness in perfecting your skills. "Enjoyment" by slacking shouldn't be tolerated in ANY professional studio.
rachel1161979 8 months ago 12
I'd be really worry if my teacher stop yelling,screaming or giving me instructions.
I believe that's the sign of someone who lost faith and hope in the students.
And in the future you'll look back and feel very happy the teacher did these thing to you
legebriwen 8 months ago
ballet teachers should be very strict, but not like that !! this teacher thinks she is the best, and this isn't because everybody is human and humans do some things wrong
sueli0524 9 months ago
0:36 -0:50 ouch
Lauriefishbone 9 months ago
I wish my parents had shipped me off to Russia to become a ballerina at the vagonova school...im still a advancer and I'm leaving for NYC next year but living in Russia to be a dancer--you can't get much better than that!
Isabelleisdabestest 10 months ago
If a teacher is giving you corrections, that is good. It means she wants you to get better. If your teacher doesn't, I would be worried.
chlofanged 10 months ago 2
I totally understand that a Russian Ballet instructor is and always was meant to be that way when they're to be teaching Ballet, but it's just taking out the fun of being a ballerina! You can still have a strict teacher who makes you work hard and can still make it fun! ^^ This teaching instructor in the video obviously doesn't understand how she's making the students feel. It's abusive, and that's never the right way to go.
TapQueen96 10 months ago
all of you say that this is wrong, but then later say wow these russian ballerinas are really something!
well put the pieces together!!!! In order to be better than good you need to work, very hard and sacrifice. You sell your soul to ballet! So stop all this working is stupid shit, working obviously pays of so if they want to strive to be perfect fine let them be, and you can go do some easy stuff and go no where....
superkiwi1000 10 months ago
I'm not very sure yet, but i don't think the English translation is definitely right ... I will check better and will tell you.
rivombreuse 1 year ago
She's a awesome dancer! I dont think her teacher should yell at her that much!
annibannani123 1 year ago
that teacher is A BITCH, you can accomplish more with love then hate. dumb old bitch. those girls are suffering and not even enjoying that their dancing, it's supposed to be fun not torture!
WickyGirl 1 year ago
omg she is so hard to the girls :o
UnendlichBeiDir 1 year ago
a teacher like that made me quit ballet
if i met a woman who smacked me and called me retarded when i was trying to excel in dancing
i'd knock her dentures out with a shovel
brambaba 1 year ago
America, FUCK YEAH!!!!!
madeline1369 1 year ago
This isn't America, where teachers have the constant threat of being sued if they are "mean" to their students. In Russia it's a different mindset. They don't care, their attitude towards it is, "You chose this life, and if you want it badly then deal with the consequences." And that's why they have better dancers than we do. They are actually helping by weeding out the weak and making the strong stronger.
XxBallerina4ChristxX 1 year ago 3
@XxBallerina4ChristxX THIS IS TRUE AND ITS THE SAME WITH CHRISTIANITY WE SUFFER WITH CHRIST SO THAT WE MAY REIGN WITH HIM
RONIDC1979 1 year ago
I would want to have a strict teacher, but not as mean as her! just strict...
KalexCullen 1 year ago
@fluteplayer I don't think perm is america. i dont think her mother has any sway over the former teacher of nadezdha pavolva. i dont think anyone in the theater will fire this woman. and is o. skoryk had acted out as you suggest i dont think she would be where is today (a dancer with the mariinsky ballet) - as the teacher explains in one of these videos "idiots never dance in this profession."
sylphida 1 year ago
I understand that teachers must be very tough in these situations, but how is something like "your legs are like missile carriers" going to help her with her dancing?? If the girl wants to excel, which these girls obviously do, than they will take simple comments like "dance more lightly on your legs" to heart. it get the same point across, but in a much kinder way. No girl should have to go through this.
loveeballet152 1 year ago
If she had guts, she would tell both her mother and the school board and complain about the issue to them and even fire the instructor and hire a better one that would teach in a professional and assertive demeanor. Though strict, yet reasonable enough to want to have joy in wanting to dance
fluteplayer 1 year ago
narniaprincess05
u r so totaly right! /ballet teachers should NOT be abusive like that.Crtisism is necessary but u shouldn't be too mean with it like she is. Shes simply expecting too much from those por kids! If i was them i would already be back home because shes just down right mean! i didn't hear one good job or great work today all i heard was and i quote, "You idiot you havn't done this right one time!" That girl should not be a ballet teacher if shes going to treat them like that!
biceismyfavorite 1 year ago
there is a difference between being a really tough teacher and being emotionally abusive. And that teacher was emotionally abusive. You do not call people idiots. You tell them that they are doing it incorrectly and that they are going to do it over and over until they do it right. When they do it right, you tell them so. Criticism is necessary in ballet but unless you then tell the girls when they correct their mistakes that they are doing a good job, you are accomplishing nothing.
narniaprincess05 1 year ago
I know exactly how they feel and it's not a good feeling either it sucks. She has the passion for dance and she shows it. The teacher is just trying to work her and work her until she can't do it any more, thats what my ballet teacher does to me and you might feel like shit at first but once you get it and the teacher tells you that you have done it right its worth everything.
randomgrl5000 1 year ago
WTF this Girl is Dancing sooooooo gooood
She called her Idiot
Helo!
If i were you i would stop Dancing!!!
schwesterherzerl 1 year ago
Qué sufrir... no lo disfrutan... sufren
yanosabeapecado 1 year ago
OMG you cant be like that! she called her IDIOT! WTF??!! where is education?
TheGabu11 1 year ago 3
poor girls
LIVGIRL505 1 year ago
I love dance but not this kind. Yes it is hard work and its supposed to be but your supposed to have fun when you dance. There are days when you have a bad class and you may even cry but dance is supposed to be an enjoyable part of your life. These poor girls are not having fun. They miss their families, they are no doubt constantly getting injured, and they have teachers who yell at them no matter how hard they try.
mandi523 1 year ago
@mandi523
I totally agree!! The teacher is allowed to be strict, but insulting them and calling them names is another thing.
thefourandonly1 1 year ago
i REALLY want to watch this documentary. can anyone tell me where i can by it?
22moviefan 1 year ago 3
If these girls were anorexic, they wouldn't be able to do something as strenuous as ballet. Remember that they're dancing ALL DAY LONG. You burn a lot of calories that way.
fallonhadley 1 year ago
you have to love ballet. they may be strict but it forces the best from them so you can get the best of the best!
my teacher is strict but not that strict. Im actually jealous.
MADAMEOCTA07 1 year ago
Wow, from what stalag did they drag that teacher? Was she in the KGB? Good Grief. strict is one thing, abusive is another!! Wow hope they don't connect electrodes to the girl's legs to make a point!!.
marym499 1 year ago 3
I knew a guy from Poland that was trained like this. He was a phenomenal dancer with phenomenal training but he ended up HATING dancing and he quit by the time he was 20. He said his teachers used to throw shoes at him if he screwed up. His whole family danced and his dad regretted all the abuse his son took that drove him to hate dance.
georgeou 1 year ago
People people, these girls are most likely NOT anorexic. Just because they're all stick thin, doesn't mean they starve themselves. They're all just built thin, small hips, small shoulders, long legs and arms. I know a girl who's just like all of them and trust me, she eats. and that teacher, she may seem a little harsh, but that's what the dance world is like nowadays. You won't always be treated with sugar on top. You have to learn to suck it up and continue doing what you love.
wigglebells 1 year ago
Missile carriers?! She's a stick!
But so beautiful at dancing...
snazzer00 1 year ago
what is the song around 1:36 ?
Balletdancer980 1 year ago
I am sorry but saying to people "you idiot" is not to be "strict" , you can be strict and still respecting people, no need to insult them.
juelophe 1 year ago 5
@juelophe i totally agree.
xLaika 1 year ago
what a witch
monsters0eh 1 year ago
фильм хороший, а озвучка русская просто гамно, да еще и с запинками.
academicsweetgirl 1 year ago
wow so strict
SWAGGAhPUff11 1 year ago
i can see why russian dancers are so perfect when they dance.. but its not worth feeling absolutely terrible and starving yourself
DanceActSing4life 1 year ago
Yeah they work hard but also get hard tıme cause of teacher and lıfe there but finally they comıng be star lıke Osipova ...
likeafirstday 1 year ago
the teacher shouldn't be like that, however, if you were one of those ballet dancers, you'd see why after, if you had ballet like that you would be one of the best. Thats why
ZenaSapphire 1 year ago
they are so so so great at ballet. The teacher is a bit strict though. but maybe that's how the got that good in the first place...
zssdesign 1 year ago
Con lo que nos quejamos nosotras en clase!!!! esto si que es trabajar duro! joder con las rusas!
evagetxo 1 year ago
the teacher is defenetly right! thats wat ballet is a tough tough work for perfection. It's breaking your body. Giving it unatural, perfect way of dancing. I myself dont feel ballet. Though i have to do it anyway (it's compulsory) i just don't feel it, u know when you are dancing you show how much you love dancing, like contemporary or jazz.
Marusya1995 1 year ago
One of my friends was telling me about a Russian guest teacher she had two years ago. The lady used to hold a lighter under their thighs to make them raise higher. A lot of dancers complained about her and she was kicked out of the school.
I can understand the merit in pushing someone. That type of teaching works for people, but to the extent of calling someone names frequently and constantly haranguing them... that's ridiculous.
Well, constantly haranguing someone is fine, but not abuse!
lavinder11 1 year ago
и я такая мама... задумалась, а надо ли продолать, нам 9 лет, пять лет уже диеты и растяжки... Царапанье , а впереди - их матерят и бьют "по спиняке", а мамы за это носят деньги и подарки...
Russiandancerballet 1 year ago
I had a Russian ballet teacher and she kicked me out of class cuz I didn't remember the next step to the dance. She also had a side bar where she would put the people she didn't think were really good. I was proud the day i was allowed to dance on the regular bar rather than that silly side bar. Some of them are really mean though.
ARealDisneyPrincess 1 year ago
i wish i could dance like that, but i would never put myself through that if I were her. how sad. :(
TheLovelylady1234567 1 year ago
im never eating again.
cocobabyballerina 1 year ago
Why is everyone so hard on the teacher?
You know nothing of what she sees in these girls what you think is "pretty good" "great"or even "perfect" is pure crap to her!!
She's a brilliant instructor who does everything to make these girls true and actual ballerinas! RUSSIAN BALLERINAS!
And also shes old! SHE has probably already had her fair share of ballet dancing, low body weight, strict instructors etc. etc.
OddSeuss 1 year ago 49
@OddSeuss you don't get it. you can actually make someone a primaballerina without abusing them psychically. That teacher has probably a lot of self-hate going on from her childhood, and is giving it the girls so that they can carry the self-hate on.
I wish one of those girls would stand up for herself cause that brings you more than being "made" into a russian ballerina.
anouck86 1 year ago 12
@OddSeuss in one way you are right but the other way I think there are lots of other methods to train a ballerina and it doesn t matter how she was taught...
dance2felina 1 year ago
@OddSeuss because she's being CRUEL!!!! she can be mean and tough, but never cruel like that! imagine if you got treated like that even if u were trying your hardest.!
CherrySlushie13 1 year ago
@OddSeuss Because people think it's their God given right to criticize the culture from countries other than their own. Perhaps if people let each country be whatever it wants to be, we'd have less wars.
xSugarplum 1 year ago
@OddSeuss so bc she's gone through it, that gives her the right to treat the students that way? i dont think so. i study under a former ballerina, and she has never treated her dancers with disrespect - dance is meant for enjoyment, not to mentally abuse the student.
grneyedsiren11 1 year ago
@OddSeuss You have a point
And anyway it's not only in russia, I used to do folk ballet in Mexico, and I have the same kind of teachers, and they are just preparing you to work in a company, things aren't gonna be easy all the time, you are going to encounter with people who will try to make you feel like shit, and this kind of trainings, will prepare you to deal with this kind of people
hikari6986 1 year ago 2
@OddSeuss
i agree, that there is no good reason to be "hard on the teacher" personally, as she probably just acts as she learned to do so for all her life..
In no way is this a respectfully or even the most effective way of teaching.
In order to be a dancer, to be an artist, the girls must learn to be free in order to express their emotionality.
To make most effective progress the students must feel, like they are actually ABLE do to so and not walk down a dead end street (like Oksana does at
OsipovaFan20 1 year ago
at some point during this film, where she says: i lost the most importan thing: the desire. Because nothing good will ever come of it! There are so many girls more clever and talented than me" Not only does this teacher repress her students love for dance, but she also represses their progress. And no, not all russian teachers are like that: Natalia Osipova says about her teacher at the Bolshoi Academy in a different documentary: "She never yells at us, not ever." She doesn´t need to, as
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at some point during this film, where she says: i lost the most importan thing: the desire. Because nothing good will ever come of it! There are so many girls more clever and talented than me" Not only does this teacher repress her students love for dance, but she also represses their progress. And no, not all russian teachers are like that: Natalia Osipova says about her teacher at the Bolshoi Academy in a different documentary: "She never yells at us, not ever." She doesn´t need to, as
OsipovaFan20 1 year ago
@OddSeuss I'm Russian, not American and I'd break that old b*tches face. I'd stab her in the face, and I mean it.
zaniellify 9 months ago
@zaniellify Im sure you would. (Sarcasm)
OddSeuss 9 months ago
@OddSeuss Finally someone who agrees with me. I would love to have her as a teacher. I would be an amazing ballerina!
xjxcouturexobsessed 9 months ago
@OddSeuss It doesn't matter. To call the students idiots is just disrespectful and horrible. A teacher should really know better. But hey, maybe that's a good way to teach and create enthusiasm towards dance during your lessons - to call your studens idiots I mean.
LinneaEllenor 3 months ago
bet that fat teacher couldn't even life her leg and if she did, she'd probably have a heart attack
soulsisters4eves 1 year ago
ok, but there's something I don't understand... what's the matter of that? She could be the fattest teacher, and what? A great dancer, can be horrible teaching... and somebody old, fat, whatever but somebody that is not able to dance anymore, could be the best teacher. So, it has no sense your comment...
Woozie51 1 year ago
exigenciaa.. eso es una prueba para la grandeza.. :( es duro pero posible
Maryjosf 1 year ago
oh my gosh!!
I dance ballet for 8 years now and my teacher is great! i think ballet should make fun..poor girls, I'm really sorry for them :(
danzzeshorty 1 year ago 4
if its your hobby it should be fun, if this is going to be your profession I'd take it a bit more seriously
BeepMii 1 year ago
I take it very seriously. but it should make fun anyway if youre a professional or not that doesnt care..
danzzeshorty 1 year ago
Wow, She's really mean ! You have to quit ! Please go to an other ballet school maybe in Englend!
ikeetnupizza 1 year ago
Es, verdadera y tremendamente, el único camino hacia la cúspide.
titolula 1 year ago
teacher is shit but oksana perfect feet,legs,body ... gorgous
TheChass94 1 year ago
Muito bom, de verdade, é um talento grande.
brunopaiva93 1 year ago
Saw her dance that little "missle carrier" section of Princess Florine with the Mariinsky on stage this weekend, she was beautiful and after seeing this film it was even more profoundly moving, thanks for letting us see what goes into making these performances a reality
sylphida 1 year ago
may i ask what has happened 2 tyhie girls face at 0:54 theese girls are beautiful why are they putting themselves through the pain and heartache xx
belgravebbe 2 years ago
I feel so much for this girl
I've watched all of these ballerina vidoes and it's so sad. What makes me sadder is people who say I'd rather have this than my "soft" teacher. If they went to perm for a day they'd take that back.
woodfromthehood100 2 years ago
esa maestra es un gorda resentida, nunca pudo tener el cuerpito de sus alumnas!! envidia envidiaa
danischucara 2 years ago
Omg i knew they had to be strict with the girls but wow that is REALLY strict i could never be at that school =[
MissMandiiee 2 years ago
that teacher ia b-yo!tch!!!
izzfifteen 2 years ago 2
wow i feel so badd..i bin dancin since i was seven years old -nd nun of my teachers acted like that !
biggboyla1 2 years ago
damm be strict but not so mean and make them cry i want to do that but im only 13 and my parents says thats not going to do anything good in my life
xxchellybellyxx23 2 years ago
@xxchellybellyxx23 No offense but tell your parents to suck it. It teaches discipline and gets you in shape.
VAMPIRICROCKSTAR 2 years ago
Btw, some of what she says is lost in translation. For example, on 0:58, when the translation is "Easy, Easy, Masha", what she's actually saying in Russian is "That's correct, good, Masha".
danceillusions13 2 years ago
i've been through all of this
it's hard, but i am thankful to my teacher for giving me such discipline.
ObscuraLupa 2 years ago 2
I think teachers should be strict but not abusive like that.
mydancetv 2 years ago 90
ooh man
life is rough :(
PATTYCAKES199 2 years ago 3
I know exactly what was going through the girl's head.:(..this clip remind me of my childhood and my gym coach.
lauramurariu 2 years ago
0.22 i know ballet dancers are tiny, i so ballet myself but that is just wrong !
BeeWilla4 2 years ago
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
writer13426 2 years ago
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
Who is the girl at 0:54? What is her name?
writer13426 2 years ago
THAT TEACHER IS A BITCH!
xenassidekick1216 2 years ago 5
I am happy my teacher is strict but not like that
TheDancer231 2 years ago 3
I guess I'm lucky I've never had ballett teachers like that.
boooommx3 2 years ago
Ballava la variazione dell'uccellino azzurro *_* Anche io l'ho ballata, e la adoro ^_^
BibiAmaBallare 2 years ago
omg~ amzing
MsNessaful 2 years ago
That's the life of a dancer.
balletchicky 2 years ago 3
possibly from the movie, The Red Shoes. in real life and professionally? no.
avatar1964 2 years ago
..i didn't know it's been that hard.
that they get called names..
if they finished the school,they're real profis.
respect,and...good luck for every girl there.
just respect,if you "survive" the daily fight with you and the coaches in the school..
SportySplitGirl 2 years ago
Has anyone ever listen to Americn coaches? Most of them say the same things to playing during basketball,football, soccer practice and even worse..
wavemontion 2 years ago 2
Exactly, and even in the other arts, I've had some rough voice teachers that push and push, and it was hard at times and alot of stress, but it's also helped me in many ways, and I could have easily given up, but I chose not to!
choirlady1976 1 year ago 3
Most Strict AND most abusive. Being merited is not a shield. It shouldn't mean you toss humanity out the window. Being strict is not license for abuse, and that is what we are seeing here.
avatar1964 2 years ago 2
if you were in a dance class you would see how this helps you. A soft teacher does nothing.
JJboy1992 2 years ago
i HAVE been in a dance class. i was a professional dancer for 20 years. i'm not talking about being soft or hard, i'm talking about abuse and what has been proven and ultimately incorrect teaching/coaching methods by sports psychologists.
avatar1964 2 years ago 4
how was i supposed to know? I would kill to have her as a teacher. It's not like im getting anywhere at my dance school with the soft teacher i have. Its like being in kindergarten. BRING ON THE BALLET BITCHES!
JJboy1992 2 years ago
sorry, i really didn't mean that the way you took it. but, the proof from sport psychologists is in. the 'ballet bitches' do way more damage than good. whats the point of passing something on in that manner. being demanding and strict is okay. i'm merely saying that abuse is not. have you thought about switching schools then?
avatar1964 2 years ago
All the expensive school seem to have the hard instructors anyway. But i guess im ok with mediorce training. Im doing ballet safely with knees over toes and stuff. Strong ankles. You get the picture. But i guess there has to be a line drawn somewhere, even though someone will always cross it.
JJboy1992 2 years ago
Even with a soft teacher you should be pushing yourself to work hard enough that it will make a difference. If you really wanna dance then you'll find a way to push yourself.
thedancefreak 2 years ago
Estan bien traumadas
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MsNessaful 2 years ago
what do you know about all this, huh? nothing... so mind what you are saying!
mikeyloufreebush 2 years ago
this can indeed make the girls dance well for some time but at long terms it brings nothing except misery and guilt for those girls,,,
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and to respond to someone's comment below: i think you can train without crush the spirit. actually, with good training (not pampering), i think you can get much better results. try it.
maybudha 2 years ago
harsh treatment....
maybudha 2 years ago
That teacher prolly is just bitter because she did ballet once and now is too old and fat herself and can only give lessons. She prolly didn't make it so far either.
RedheadScorpio 2 years ago
i doubt that, i think this is the teacher´s way of teaching. she thinks this is the only way to get the girls to give everything they´ve got. not uncommon for russian teachers...
OsipovaFan20 2 years ago
and not uncommon for many ballet teachers, b/c that was the way they themselves were taught. Very old school.
hbanana7 2 years ago
are you kidding me? do you know how merited the teachers in the perm school are? perm is thought to be the strictest of the russian ballet schools, and we can all see why
phenophtalein 2 years ago 3
cause they produce some of the best ballerinas.
JJboy1992 2 years ago
вот так мы, педагоги, работаем)))))))) ..........но девочки реально какие-то деревянные))...
deeemcher 2 years ago
Wow I don't think I'd like to dance like that. I do ballet,and I enjoy it and I mean you do get yelled but not THAT yelled. My dad said that in Russia,their ballet is very very serious and you have to live a hard life for that
xxdisneystarxx 2 years ago 2
How can anyone enjoy their classes and continue on dancing and remain loving it with such negative tongue lashing.
crabbycakes9000 2 years ago
dance is somthing that comes from the heart ; these girls are having there dreams crushed by the teacher , pretty soon they wont have a heart this woman would have ripped it out . i feel so sorry for them they trueky are amazing its a shame they dont get tolld that they're amazing . x
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8elwutube 2 years ago
Then you should never be a dancer. It's a different life and not everyone can handle it, So to say something so inapropraite and disrespectful makes you worse than they are. They are trying to turn girls and boys into dancers. Not coddle them and make new friends, they are there as trainers not as babysitters
TheBalletbunhead 2 years ago
I had russian teachers like this, but it really made me a better dancer. Cause they made us work hard. Sounds weird, but I got used to the name-calling. Most teachers are very nice people, but in class they are strict, to make the students work hard. And it works, russia has the best dancers! :)
trinamy 2 years ago
and also... don't take the name-calling too serious. I did that for one year and it was like hell. After that year I started to laugh at it and learned not to take it serious. It started to become funny so I could work hard and learn to love the dance again.
downtown82 2 years ago
The russians have always been known for there Ballet, she may be hard on her students but this is how it is if you wanna be a Russian Ballerina.
RR2023 2 years ago 3
Well Russia has the best ballet...
gaduartev 2 years ago 3
this teacher is tame in comparison to some artistic directors out there
there is no other way to achieve the level dancers are dancing at today without such strict discipline
these girls already show great promise
magicalgrasshopper 2 years ago 5
pobres le re sobre exigen ...
:(
ramirezmargot 2 years ago
She sounded like my double bass instructor in college. I quit the pursuit of a minor degree in instrument performance, but understand what he attempted through insult. Unfortunately, that mentor-insult stuff doesn't work with all talents.
epheseus 2 years ago 4
discipline is a very open word. Iam also discipline in my work but with love and character. Msssss Lyudmilla Pavlovna is a monster and perhaps a frustrated ballerina more fat than the student.
Iam also teacher na di do nbot consider any student stupid, I would like to met her and said diorectly. poor girls.Afther they become very could persons and arrogant like my last frends in the National Ballet.
lavozquevuela 2 years ago
the requirement of the teacher is terrible! It is a real bitch! but the result is wonderful! much use!
balletboy89 2 years ago
if you really look at this, it's accually pretty sad.. but this is how real ballet is soposed to be.. if you want to become a professional ballerina, you have to go through this pain..
vivalasexiiix3 2 years ago 4
No you don't. Not THIS pain. Pain of perserverence and disatisfaction with ones work and pain of physical labour, yes - but pain of being underweight and mentally insecure? This is not a necessity in ballet training. Yes ballet is hard, but this is not only about ballet.
panyatna 2 years ago 5
the teacher is a bitch
tottalydolphin 2 years ago 6
While I believe a dance teacher should be extremely strict and disciplinary, there's no need for name-calling. Really. This video makes me a bit sad.
WithoutMythologies 2 years ago
me too, but that is how they teach in russia and other places and that's why they are really good, it's kinda like in china and gymnastics (no offence to anyone)
agjwgirls 2 years ago
I agree - there is a huge difference between correcting someone's mistakes and abusing! It's called teaching - u can be strict and demand dicsipline without bringing students to nervous breakdown!
Yanaballerina 2 years ago 7
It is sad, but most effective. If you tell a student the lesson is challenging, that it is difficult, and few can succeed, you make them friends with failure. When you tell they can perform if they apply themselves, that they are slow, and stupid and insolent and are only holding themselves back, they are forced to reach within themselves and overcome. This, like striking a child reaching for fire, is cruel but also necessary. There are other ways, yes, but this is most effective.
TheSweetwaterJones 2 years ago
You must have discipline. More children need this..They have no respect these days, let them go to a serious class and get a wake up call..
ballettightsslv 2 years ago
I also studied ballet. but the theachers are not alowed to say idiot to any student, distroit the life and meke the suicide like in my school. the teacher some time are very frustrated and asesins.
I still dancing and teaching with love and strict discipline. this russian teacher remember me one I know as a pick anmd criminal. dance es armoni.energy and real learning .
lavozquevuela 2 years ago
i agree with you
mouw108 2 years ago
The discipline I learnt from studying ballet is one of the most valuable lessons of my life. I have been teaching ballet for the last 25 years. Ballet is extremely difficult. You can only be good at ballet with strict discipline. Although I would NEVER condone name calling and abuse, we must accept that we will never be as good as the Russians because we are simply not tough enough and we adopt a mamby pamby attitude towards our training and teaching.
Squashali 2 years ago 2
I danced as a child in the 70's. My ballet teacher was VERY strict. If our ballet shoes came undone or if our hair pins fell out we had to leave the class and told that we could not return until we could prepare ourselves properly for class. We were not allowed to take the class if we were so much as 30 seconds late. It was normal for all teachers to slap you, I learned my right from left because my teacher would remind me that the stinging leg she just slapped was my RIGHT LEG! lol.
Squashali 2 years ago
is there a link to where i can watch the entire documentry?
lollie87 2 years ago
everyone who says ballet is suppose to be fun is kidding themselves
Ballet is hard grueling work and the reward is getting that bit better to perfection
ballet0ismylife 2 years ago 5
Hi...of course im NOT in favor of mean teachers, but...you see...passion is sometimes so huge, that love breakes barriers, love breaks words like "you idiot" , love for ballet its so intense it needs to tryied on...you see, ballet its passion, passion makes miracles
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GERRARDBrown1022 2 years ago
ballet should come though you soul not a mean teacher. From training none of my teachers or coaches are always nice and don't call you a ittiot
DemiLavatofan 2 years ago
I agrre. Ballet should be something you enjoy.
gaduartev 2 years ago 2
This teacher is mean as i know from dancing since 2 years old. ballet should be inside your soul not from torture
DemiLavatofan 2 years ago 4
Ballet should be FUN but I think because of the mean teacher, they probably hate doing ballet every day.
Yuy87 2 years ago 2
as fierce as these girls are... i think its really sad! wat a depressing life
OJTS007 2 years ago
shes soo skinny..
but amazing.
CheeseCakeLlama3 2 years ago
ridiculous!
edsoneamanda 2 years ago 2
just curious - are US instructors like this at all? Has anyone ever had anything close to this experience? Not that it really matters, but I was just curious. Wanted to know if this is a universal teaching 'technique.' Because if it is, then ballet really isn't worth it.
Pri03 2 years ago
no, US instructors or instructors from other countries are not like that. The Perm is known for its mad teachers, but in America, children see ballet as something beautiful, not like a death sentence.
irisina2006 2 years ago
I have a russian teacher who often gets into fits like this. I think it's just a cultural thing.
vgb213 2 years ago
Hmmm interesting. I also wonder if it's a generational thing. A lot of these teachers seem much 'older' - so I feel like when they were these girls' age, they lived in a much stricter time & culture. Thanks for answering. And I'm relieved that these techniques are unique from other countries/cultures - because I love watching ballet, and would hate to support something that sucks the fun and art out of something so beautiful. Didn't realize Perm was like this at all.
Pri03 2 years ago
Watch out for the drill Sgt.
:P Its military ballet !
driecken 2 years ago 2
i dont think this sort of ballet training is worth having perfect technique . . . . like i'm sure they are all very good, but they probably all hate it. i would not want it to be that way.