It is a choice to be gay...it is a choice to be an alcoholic, it is a choice being a dope addict, it is a choice being a 12 sandwich fat person, It is a choice being good, it is a choice being evil.... screw off with your science crap and the delusional scientific theories and genetics.
and you realize comparing humans to animals to justify homosexuality to Christians is futile at best. Animals also eat their own feces and often feed on their own young. I'm sure there have always been gay couples but they were not seen as ideal relations. long term gay unions are only able to exist when human populations thrive. which is why they are strengthening now, i.e. population control, and the need for adoption.
you know it also says in the bible that black people were created when cain killed his brother abel and god turned his skin black. but im sure herman cain chooses not to accept that part of the bible.
@MikeFCox God doesnt "hate fags" He hates sin. He loves them just as much as he loves you. And if you are living in sin and dont follow Him, then you are in the same boat they are in.
If it so easy as to just choose to like people from the same gender, wouldn't that mean that everyone is bisexual? I'm a heterosexual man, but I would never be able to choose to like another man, because thats just not how I'm programmed. I just can't find men attractive, even if I would want to. This is why you can't choose your sexuality. It's like choosing to like pasta even if you don't like pasta. Homosexual men can't find woman attractive, because thats how their preferences is set.
it amazes me the amount of atheists, christians, and people in general who don't understand the difference between the new testament and the old testament. That said, (and I'm being objective here) believing homosexuality is a sin is no worse than believing abortion is ethical.
Herman Cain, Mr. Bible believer himself, should probably not do any sort of work for his campaign on a sunday. The Bible says he could be stoned to death for that... O_o... Oh hypocrisy
If you pull a "it says it in Leviticus or Deuteronomy" I'm going to go insane. Okay, if you believe that you must stone liars, you must not wear interwoven clothing. No divorces, whoever bears your child (rapist or not) you must stick with them. You also must take your shoes off, and when receiving an esteemed guest, clean their feat. Seem silly to you? Ye, a lot of things in the old testament was biased, and usually were based on the culture around Egypt.
So Mr Herman Cain, it must be your choice NOT to be gay. I have important information for you. Sexuality happens without conscious thought in case you hadn't realized.
Could I kiss a man? Yes, my father (stopped doing it by the age of roughly 5 but still).
Could I love a man? Again yes, my father, uncles, male cousins and friends.
Could I be IN love with a man? No, and that's why homosexuality is NOT a choice, thank you Mr Cain, nice to see your prejudice is taken from the same religion practiced by the people who enslaved your ancestors, then hung a considerable amount of them after the emancipation proclamation, no irony there.
You don't have a choice in who you are attracted two, which is a mental activity, but the sexual behaviors are choices you physically make. When you use "choice" to describe behavioral activities you are exaggerating the point and should be reframed a gay person cannot help who they are attracted to. Otherwise it is a lie and fuel for your opposition.
@gplus46 Thank you very much, genuinely. I'll try to be more delicate with my wording next time. Still, I realise the difference between the mental and physical activity, and that I may have been exaggerative in my point, but what do you believe to be "gay", the physical behavior, or the mental activity? Are you trying to suggest something, or just simply pointing out the conflicting factors and issues that could be brought up by opposing sides, giving me more reason to be careful?
I appreciate your consideration. "Gay" is confusing since it is used interchangeably. But if it were about mental activity and occasional fantasies then almost every one would be gay; and we generally use different terms to describe cognition and behavior. So I go with the behaviorist view of gay and offer this perspective as someone interested in fair and valid arguments. And I think moving beyond "choice" would be more authentic and allow for a more meaningful debate.
@wardawk So something that you have 0% control over can damn you to eternal punishment? Damn, god must be a complete fucking cunt to do that. Thanks for teaching me what a downright idiotic asshole douche bag god is, mate.
@CursedZebra Gays have control as they claim homo attraction is only for adult males not children , thereby trying to camoflauge the high incidence and link between fagism and pedophilia, but age of consent determines what an adult is, and is set by society and is variable, some states its 16 others 18, so a faggot can control his attraction and actions, he can like 16's olds if its legal in that state, or not find them attractive if its illegal in that state. GOTCHA. Fag isa choice
@wardawk *cringe. You sire, are an idiot. What you just said is like saying:"Black men understand that being a black child may cause them to be discriminated against so they wait until they are 21 before they turn black because then they look threatening". Your sexual preference is no more of a choice then the color of your skin and the fact that you wrote about 300 words back just shows ignorant you really are. Every reply you give to me increases your ignorance even more so watch it, kid.
@wardawk Just like you can choose to be a normal intelligent human being ... oh sorry you can't help it if you're mentally deficient, have a personality disorder or are just a stupid kid. What I do know is that you lack the abiltiy to talk intelligently about a subject and should not insult your betters by participating in the debate.
@CursedZebra Hahaha nope I am happy as I have shown you for the fool u are.I make people mad I dont egt mad.
1. You called me kid, so dont lie.
2. Balck isnt a choice, faggotry is, only way you will ever stop me saying so is by killing me.
3.Sex between same gender happens but that doesnt make it normal, sex between animals and humans or adults and children ocurs that doesnt make it NATURAL hahahaha, u hate me yet?
@wardawk Only a small minority is as ignorant as you and hates homosexuals. Sure most of America is homophobic but then again America is one of the worst countries in the world to live in anyway. By "retards" I'm guessing you mean the mentally disabled? Mentally challenged people DO have the same rights as everyone else I'll have you know and as for the little insult, you just took what I said and said it again as your own. That's pathetic. I would hardly say I got owned since you had no points.
@wardawk *cringe, you know what, your a moron. I said it, moron. The amount of ignorance in your mind is fascinating if anything. It's like you were born and raised in a shack in the 1950s and never caught up with modern day society. Your lips must be brown since you talk so much shit and I honestly can't be bothered with you anymore. Go lock yourself in a box so your ignorance cannot pollute this world further, goodbye.
@CursedZebra Thanks for the bite, u got owned you fool. But your spitefull reply is very infantile, I suggest you buy a Dictionary etc and expand your vocab. I WIN.
@wardawk You know whats funny? Look at the top comments and you will see one of my replies is one of the top comments. That ALONE shows that more people like me than you. You call me infantile yet your whole ideal of homosexuality mimics that of a child "Yuk those two men are kissing, eww!" is what I picture when thinking of you. Even if you did know more words than me that would not strengthen your arguments in anyway since your viewpoint is wrong. You will never win, ever, at anything. Give up
@wardawk So you admit sexuality is not a choice ("their sick urges") yet you will continue to persecute gay people regardless. Paedos and serial killers by definition have 'victims' whose freedom to live, or at least live without fear or prejudice has been taken from them. There are no victims within a consenting homosexual encounter. What's evil about that? Neither sexuality, either 'homo' or 'hetero' is a sickness. Your level of prejudice in my opinion is not NORMAL. You are not NORMAL.
@CursedZebra He's never wrong but unfortunately humans keep screwing up! I find only support and acceptance in my religion and believe sexual oriëntation has nothing to do whether you're a good or bad person.
I think what they are saying is that someone may be attracted to the same sex, but acting on it is the choice. All sexual activity is a choice. The choice to be a heterosexual or otherwise is a behavior/lifestyle. If someone who was attracted to the same sex resisted the temptation like an alcoholic resisted drinking Christians would be far more sympathetic.
@gplus46 That's true but why should they suppress there urges? If heterosexuals can have sec together then why not homosexuals? It's basically the same thing. If someone suppresses their sexual urges in fear of it being frowned upon then what sort of society is this? People have fought wars for us to be free so why suppress others?
Suppression was needed to preserve the species. Early humans didn't have the luxury of ss partners, actions needed to be practical. As such archetypes of human ideals were represented in male and female unions.
Also anal sex was seen as an unnatural use of the anus, so it was obviously considered unclean. I'm sure this is how Lesbianism has been more acceptable than gay relations.
@gplus46 You do realise that animals around the world have been having anal intercourse without any problems. I'm sure that back in said era that there were gay couples.
Gotta love those Christians for being so compassionate and understanding.
This is proof as to why I'm Agnostic. I don't think God could possibly be such an asshole that he would send someone to eternal punishment and damnation because they "loved the wrong gender"
@JamesRideout123 No, it is just misleading information which doesn't make an appropriate comparison and fails to take into account the two that ranked above Canada where South Korea, made up of a lot of atheists, and Finland which is mainly Lutheran. Other countries around there are also atheistic, including Germany and Hong Kong, which are some of the highest averaging IQ citizens in the world, and Australia, whose Prime Minister is an atheist. Bleah.
@MrJXT1 You forgot to add 'retardedly', they 'retardedly loved the wrong gender'. So if you can't define between a male and a female and you loved the 'wrong' gender, dame you must be retarded...hence forth why God prohibited it, becuase he knew people would be that 'fucked' up to love the wrong gender...
@MrJXT1 the christian god doesnt send people to hell for loving the wrong gender, he sends them to hell for putting their junk where theyre not supposed to. I think everyone can agree that a penis seems to be made for a vagina. If it wasnt, you wouldnt be alive.
@MrJXT1 you don't think God would want mankind to prospeer and multiply? You don't think that God would want his favorite creation to follow the laws of natural and do what is natural and gains prosperity. For instance a man and a man having sex no children come from that there is no spiritual bonding and just animal lusting in the eyes of God. So if people are attracted to children such as pedaphiles men liking little boys they shouldn't go to hell either.
@MrJXT1 pedaphilia The only difference between gays and pedaphiles even thought a large ration of pedaphiles are from the gay community is the preference of age. homosexuality is a sin and because you don't have the holyspririt guiding you. You dont see homosexuality the way i don't and why God would oppose it. We should love all people even jesus hung out with protitutes and perverted and the poor. but You just don't see the purity in man and woman relationships. because you have the wrongheart
@MrJXT1 reguardless of religiion people should have the right to marry. People don't realize that the bible teaches this too. The bible says do no concern yourself with politics and worldly affair for we are not of this earth. The bible says let god's will be done. The bible says in 1st peter to live as free men but do not allow your freedom to cover up for evil. The bible says homosexuality would rise and man would leave wife for man. God is the judge and these people will be judge.
@MrJXT1 And i assure you 90% of republicans who are rich and dishonorable and promote hate as well as the democrats who are rich immoral and promote wickedness will not enter the gate of heaven for it a narrow road and this behavior is not tolerated on both sides. Stay out of politics like jesus did he did not concern himself with this world for it was not an enternal one and wouldn't be here forever. I say let as many laws against God be passed the sooner it happens the sooner im out of here.
it is most certainly not a choice, who would choose to be bullied on a daily basis? and i would just like to point out that whilst the bible has many heterosexual love storys, it also contains some homosexual love storys. for example, David and Jonathan.
In many cases homosexuality isn't a choice. However it is not how the human body is naturally supposed to behave. But people can do what they want. Government should not be involved in married whatsoever, it's a religious practice and incorporating it into taxes and laws on a federal level violates the first amendment.
equation: if heterosexuality is not a choice, then homosexuality is also not a choice.. prove to people that 10% of typical american straight people, and i mean TYPICAL (never been gay before), can turn into gay.. if not, herman cain is a TOTAL BULLSHIT
and dont talk to me about bible, bible says you can kill your son if he disobey you.. if you believe in bible, you are insane..
@TheRgordon Sorry, just remember to read from the start as I have said a fair bit and you are in between, it starts with "Did you really just say God wasn't a murderous sexist, or something like that at about the second page.
Herman Cain is so dumb sometimes. Sometimes when i think of him though, I can't help myself, I go eat some pizza. I love pizza. Not so much Herman Cain.
So if homosexuals are attracted to members of the same sex, and homosexuality is a choice, then that must mean that all humans are bisexual by default.
Of course homosexuality is a choice. Think about the social benefits you get if you chose to be gay, esecially in america. Who wouldn't want to be gay?
@hanspeterpitsch Perhaps the people who don't want to be beaten up and bullied, to feel inadequate and judged by your closest friend and contemplate suicide on numerous occasion because they were born differently and people hate them for it..
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes! Isn't that great? Looking at those consequences, it makes absolute sense to say that being gay is a choice. You took my comment seriously didn't you?
Wow, I need these many views for my videos. The gay topic is a waste of time believe there will always be people that don't agree. The people that say they hate gays should stop saying that because many men thought they hated gays before they received their long prison sentence.
@TheRgordon16 say this, which loses the credibility of all your other claims because I could simply say, "How do you know God said that about gays?" You can say it was taken out of context, in which case I would ask you to read it and then there goes that argument, or you can say Jesus was wrong and you shouldn't stone your children, and then there is the question as to whether he was wrong about gays. It could be to make a point but why would he do it so much in the Old Testament? Bulletproof.
@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
If he believes homosexuality is a chioce I will assume he made a conscience decision not to be gay. When did he make his choice? What informed his decision?
homosexuality is a sin and a choice? WTF, Cheating on your wife with at least 3 other women is also a sin. Before you go pointing you fingers at other people you idiot point 3 more right back at you and look own life. Don't try and put other people down when your life is fucked up as well. Last time I checked, you got out of being president because of your affairs. You couldn't handle the pressure and your views are flaud. GTFO
I aint saying being gay is wrong, but he just believe what the bible says, that sodomy (the sticking of foreign things into certain holes) is a sin, and gay people DO choose to do that... so in the wrong way, he is right :/
@velenvskaelhas no he isnt. the bible might as well be fictional. It IS fictional.hes wrong in every way. Did you choose your hair colour. No. so if you cant choose your bodily features you cant choose if your gay or not
Well he is obviously an idiot you cant choose to be gay who in there right man thinks that random straight men want to be gay for the fun of it you cant help who you are attracted too this guy should understand that gay people are Born gay they do not choose to be homosexual its just the way they are and there genes No one chooses to be straight either they are born that way.
LOL... Thats why Cain will not be the next President... He and so many politicians are out of touch with reality! Thank God we had the choice to NOT vote for this fool!
@Geo6125 - You have to include it. HAVE to. Hundreds of thousands to millions of people have died in battle perpetuated by religion throughout human history.
"This land is ours because our religion says so!"
"No, it's OUR land because OUR religion says so!"
[begin war/battle over religious dispute about land]
@Babylauncher3000 Blinking one's eyes is probably mentioned somewhere in the bible as being a sin! It is absolutely impossible to live one's life by that mother of all mythologies, the mythological, albeit entertaining, holy bible. To try and do so is an excercise in futility. May as well have fun while living your life in the here and now, rather than trying to be straightlaced Christian. Leave that for heaven. Apparently everyone gets in anyway. So have fun!!
Herman Cain is a douchebag! What the "F" does he know about homosexuality being a choice! Has he experienced this for himself, perhaps? He's a hypocrite too! He's a bible believin (not believing but believin!) Christian. Good for you, Herman. So the next time you stick your black phallus into the vagina of someone other than your wife, think Jesus! Would he approve, you bible believin Christian?
@Mazao92 Yeah I understand. There are far less homosexuals which makes them an easier target. It's sad because it's so clear that these people are who we are yet we continue to try to change them, with no success. I just hope we can start living in 2012 and not 1584. I do not understand the struggle, and why people think someone would choose to have that struggle. But to those out there, stay strong, our generation is a changed one, and don't give up the fight no matter what.
@sLugf3st are who "they" are. sry about the confusion, personally i'm not gay. even though i don't give a shit about anyones sexual orientation, people who are somehow impacted by someone being gay or not are completely wrong and should live their own lives, not other people's lives.
@TheRgordon16 doubt, that is wrong, couldn't that mean that maybe, just maybe, other parts of it could be wrong? The whole thing even? Might it all just be a fairy tale with no happy ending?
@TheRgordon16 course it is real but do you believe it is? And the death penalty, do you agree with that. And what about forcefully aborting other people's babies because the parents were bad people? Or what about killing women and children on purpose in a war? God is not pro-life. He orders the death penalty to just about every crime ever, and kills innocents in wars. It is sick and disgusting. Also, if you find one part of the Bible wrong, namely the three pillars as we can prove, without a
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes I am for the death penalty. Anyone that sheds man's blood then his blood is to be shed as well. That is called JUSTICE. Equal JUSTICE. Romans 1 speaks about that. INNOCENT? Do you see what children in America are doing? They are doing exactly what their parents are doing. Murdering! They were the offspring of evil people. They would only become adults in time and carry out the same evil deeds of their parent. Thats why they were also killed. Hitler was not alway an adult
@TheRgordon16 What you just said was utter bullshit. Survival of the fittest is a fact, even if you don't believe in evolution. North, south, east and west are not corners at all, so I don't know how you got that, you also said the pillars were inside the Earth, which, I would like to add, is impossible. Even without the burning hot lava that would melt pretty much anything, how do pillars fit inside the Earth so as to hold every bit of it up? It is impossible. Also, in Mein Kampf, Hitler says,
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You claim your not religious but the reality is you are. Your "FAITH" is in the doctrine of evolution (which is false) and your gods are Luck and Chance. According to your religion it was Luck and Chance that caused the universe to come into being. Your whole belief system (which is in the name of "science") is bankrupt and ridiculous. First of all you have no idea how to read and understand the Bible. You are completely bias, having your own preconceived ideas looking....
@ProphetOfTheTeapot for anything that appears to be flawed so that you can use against Christians. Well since you are spiritually dead; and are not spirirtually astude to know the difference between literal text and poetic expressions that are meant to convey truths in an artistic way, I will attempt to help you understand (though I know you won't) what the Bible is saying. Now, first you claim the Bible is saying the Earth is a flat circle. Then you claim it says there are four corners...
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Then you claim it talks about pillars supporting the Earth (even though I showed you in the Book of Job where it declares "He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." Job 26:7 But your nonbelieving biases have blinded you from seeing that. But needless to say I will stiil try to help you understand. This verse is indicative of that the earth was suspended in space [i.e., gravity and "hanging upon nothing"] as opposed to being held
@ProphetOfTheTeapot ...up by pillars as you assume. First you need to know what the word "world" means in the Hebrew. The Bible speaks of both the world and the earth as having foundations. The term, "world," speaks of the order of man in the earth. As such, references to foundations and pillars of the world cannot be held as very authoritative when it comes to speaking about the shape of the earth.The term "earth," on the other hand, can not only refer to the whole earth, but also to "ground"
@TheRgordon16 Evolution is a fact. Only when it comes to macro-evolution is it a theory, and as I have explained before (please tell me what I haven't explained adequately) it is backed up with loads of evidence. Also, whilst it make take "faith" in a broader sense, to be an atheist, it takes not even an ounce of faith to believe in evolution. I am not going to pretend that when reading the Bible I am slightly biased, however I read the Bible when I was younger and still a naive believer. I
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Im sorry I didnt have enough time to finish writing my complete thoughts. Ive been very busy so i had to stop. But I will attempt to finish answering your questions as soon as time will permit me to do so. Especially about Hitler and Creation.... Peace
@TheRgordon16 , even though I held it in the highest esteem and was even, sadly, a creationist, had a hard time believing the killing of the children bits. This was when I believed in the book entirely. So I still have an insight into being biased in the other end, and try to keep my arguments against the Bible and my own personal experience with religion, separate. Yes, I will speak about the passages that are in my favour, this is what happens in a debate, but I won't knock aside all your
@TheRgordon16 counterarguments. For example if you say, Jesus said to love one another, I will say yes, he did, and you should live by that and not by all the other shit in there. I will direct you towards what is wrong with the Bible, you will direct me towards some of the good stuff. It is my opinion that if you are going to use part of the Bible, you need to account for all of it, which brings us back to the flat Earth myth. Matthew 4:8 "Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain
@TheRgordon16 and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory." For this to be true the world would need to be flat... and Jesus would need to have the best eyesight in the world. I accept your little "the world sits on nothingness" but you need to account for the rest of the Bible. You attempted this by speaking about the translations, but the order of man was stretched across the Earth, even in Jesus' time, especially in places like China. You speak of allegory and yet you call
@TheRgordon16 evolution false. Why? Couldn't the creation story also be allegorical? And what about Noah's flood, the world's water supply would need to triple to reach the highest mountain and the dimensions of the Ark were smaller than that of the titanic, yet it managed to fit million and millions of species onto it, in twos, plus seven of each of the clean animals, not to mention you would need to take the plants too. And a way to dispose of all the shit, and they took no food. That, if true
@ProphetOfTheTeapot. Your arguments may appear to be true in your own mind.But your mind however is limited like a 4 year old child who is trying to explain the complex design of the Space Shuttle. You are not able to comprehen the Thoughts of God. As it is written, “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher
than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.”
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Like a child that doesn't understand why their parents may prohibit them from doing certain things that they want to do (because the parent has knowledge and experience that the child doesnt have. And the parent knows the danger that child may encounter) So you are like a child asking God "Why can't we do this and why can't we do that. And why do you do this instead of doing it my way?"
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Your argument is " God is a murderer and a sexist and a homophobe" Based on that argument (which is incorrect by the way..well the sexist and murderer part anyway) you trying to say God doesn't exist? Lets say that you were right about your opinion. Are you saying God doesn't exist because you think He is evil? And are you saying God is not real because He doesn't think like you? Since when is someones existence based on weather or not you agree with them?
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The fact is there are certain requirements that must be met in order to truly understand the Bible. First the Book is Spiritual in nature. It is a book that is made up of many different books written by many different authors. The authors were from different time periods and all wrote about what they saw and what they heard.It is amazing how so many authors from different time periods could write about the same things that gives us a complete story which ends in victory!
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The first five books was written by Moses. He testified that God had appeared to him and spoke to him throug a burning bush. He wrote about how the Earth came into existance and how it was restored from a chaotic condition. He wrote about how life began and how life reproduces after its own kind. Something we do see every day. Not macro evolution. He wrote about why mankind was so different from any other creature. He wrote about the PURPOSE of Man and the PURPOSE of Woman.
@TheRgordon16 Did you really just say God wasn't a murderous sexist? In one of his Ten Commandments he refers to women as property and breaking the Commandments results in death. And that apparently that is the basis for western society, bullocks. If Moses wrote how life began in Genesis (which he didn't), he was completely and 100% wrong. Life did not begin all at once and snakes did not talk. The only thing he might have gotten right is that snakes did once have legs and God may have created
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The present day creatures including man. Did suddenly spring to life. The science world has infact discovered that. The problem is they are trying to link old dead fossils to current life. But they can't because there is no link between them and us. That old world died off long ago. Genensis 1:2 tells us the Earth was without form and in a chaotic condition. But then He restores the Earth in 6 litera days creating new life forms. Evolution has never been observed
@TheRgordon16 the Earth, other than that, false. Now, would a divine's views be my own? No. Should they be my own? No. But should they be a sexist pig? No. should they be a homophobic jackass? No. If God hated gays and women, why is he not punishing them? Why did he create them in the first place? Don't you think it is odd that the views of God are nigh on identical to the views of a wandering Palestinian tribe? Isn't it strange that God suggested not to kill and steal, and before that people
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You fool! God created all things and set everything in order as He saw fit. The Bible tells the Man to LOVE HIS WIFE AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH and how did He Love the Church? HE DIED FOR HER That is what the Bible teaches. So if a woman gets married then there is a certain role she must play. God created ORDER and it is His will that the Man be the Head of the woman. He did not create men to be "homosexuals" so stop fooling yourself about that. He created MALE and FEMALE
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You are wrong in thinking God is sexist. The book of Corimthians tells the Man that his body doesnt belong to himself but it also belongs to his wife. And the wifes' body doesnt belong to herself but it also belongs to her husband. When speaking about coveting another man's property there is nothing wrong with calling the wife his property. She does belong to him and he belong to her. That is what property means. And no one is to look at her and desire her so as to steal her
@TheRgordon16 suggested not to kill and steal. All the way back in Mesopotamia people had the eye for eye, tooth for tooth system, the same basic laws, roughly the same morals, and even today, while people have become more civilized than just, kill a killer (except in some states that also happen to be very religious), everyone still knows not to steal, cheat, murder. This makes God's Commandments redundant, considering people were following them anyway. The only new one's he brought in were, if
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes because the Bible tells us that God's law is written on man's heart. Therefore its no suprise that others spoke about not stealing or killing. But those societies all died off and their writing are not used anymore. But the Books of the Bible still remain and are still influencing billions of people! Thats because the Bible is alive! It brings spiritual life. Jesus said "The words I speak to you; they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE"
It is a choice to be gay...it is a choice to be an alcoholic, it is a choice being a dope addict, it is a choice being a 12 sandwich fat person, It is a choice being good, it is a choice being evil.... screw off with your science crap and the delusional scientific theories and genetics.
ezyreap 16 hours ago
@ezyreap I give this one a 4 out of 10.
Keadin84 16 hours ago
@ezyreap You massive retard.
YaMumYaNanYaGran 14 hours ago
Being Stupid is also often a choice. Clearly, Herman fully and willfully embraced that option.
somersetdc 1 day ago
@somersetdc
and you realize comparing humans to animals to justify homosexuality to Christians is futile at best. Animals also eat their own feces and often feed on their own young. I'm sure there have always been gay couples but they were not seen as ideal relations. long term gay unions are only able to exist when human populations thrive. which is why they are strengthening now, i.e. population control, and the need for adoption.
gplus46 1 day ago
@somersetdc
Then you agree that homosexuality just like heterosexuality and bisexuality are choices people make.
gplus46 1 day ago
For him to say it's a choice makes me want to kick him in the face.
fahkyooh 2 days ago
you know it also says in the bible that black people were created when cain killed his brother abel and god turned his skin black. but im sure herman cain chooses not to accept that part of the bible.
bigfuckinweirdo 2 days ago
GOD HATES FAGS
MikeFCox 2 days ago
@MikeFCox God doesnt "hate fags" He hates sin. He loves them just as much as he loves you. And if you are living in sin and dont follow Him, then you are in the same boat they are in.
TheRgordon16 2 days ago
I know I sure as hell ain't choose to be gay.....
PGnumbaONE 3 days ago
If it so easy as to just choose to like people from the same gender, wouldn't that mean that everyone is bisexual? I'm a heterosexual man, but I would never be able to choose to like another man, because thats just not how I'm programmed. I just can't find men attractive, even if I would want to. This is why you can't choose your sexuality. It's like choosing to like pasta even if you don't like pasta. Homosexual men can't find woman attractive, because thats how their preferences is set.
Bobloblawman 4 days ago
@BamaManTexasFan Oh? And is the way to save yourself simply "not being gay" or "praying the gay away" or some other ridiculous thing like that?
MrJXT1 6 days ago
@MrJXT1 He wouldn't, I truely believe some homosexuals have a place in heaven (:
hester23x 5 days ago
it amazes me the amount of atheists, christians, and people in general who don't understand the difference between the new testament and the old testament. That said, (and I'm being objective here) believing homosexuality is a sin is no worse than believing abortion is ethical.
rossb337 1 week ago
Herman Cain, Mr. Bible believer himself, should probably not do any sort of work for his campaign on a sunday. The Bible says he could be stoned to death for that... O_o... Oh hypocrisy
09roverspike 1 week ago
If you pull a "it says it in Leviticus or Deuteronomy" I'm going to go insane. Okay, if you believe that you must stone liars, you must not wear interwoven clothing. No divorces, whoever bears your child (rapist or not) you must stick with them. You also must take your shoes off, and when receiving an esteemed guest, clean their feat. Seem silly to you? Ye, a lot of things in the old testament was biased, and usually were based on the culture around Egypt.
Pandamoaniumify 1 week ago
religion is a sin!
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RIMTV1 1 week ago
Being gay is a genetic mutation, much like having 3 eyes or being born without arms. Not a choice, just inferior and quite honestly disgusting.
AdamCF1 1 week ago
$50 says Herman Cain has never read the Bible. You would not be a Christian if you read the Bible back to back.
DeadFishFactory 1 week ago
@DeadFishFactory U suck dicks dont ya......
wardawk 1 week ago
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@wardawk Very profound argument. Then again, I don't expect much from fucktards.
DeadFishFactory 1 week ago
So Mr Herman Cain, it must be your choice NOT to be gay. I have important information for you. Sexuality happens without conscious thought in case you hadn't realized.
AirontheThong 1 week ago
@AirontheThong Incorrect, straight is the norm, and natural state, homo is a deviation, straight isnt a choice its the natural default.
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thebloodygaga 1 week ago
So by his logic all those gays in the countries that punish homosexuality with death all made a choice to be gay? Bullshit.
GenericFurfag 1 week ago
@GenericFurfag haha yeah exactly!
Duhello88 1 week ago
I am a hetereosexual male.
Could I kiss a man? Yes, my father (stopped doing it by the age of roughly 5 but still).
Could I love a man? Again yes, my father, uncles, male cousins and friends.
Could I be IN love with a man? No, and that's why homosexuality is NOT a choice, thank you Mr Cain, nice to see your prejudice is taken from the same religion practiced by the people who enslaved your ancestors, then hung a considerable amount of them after the emancipation proclamation, no irony there.
thagrammarnazi 2 weeks ago 2
@thagrammarnazi u dont have to fuck a man though, be gay but do it quietly.
wardawk 1 week ago
@thagrammarnazi
You don't have a choice in who you are attracted two, which is a mental activity, but the sexual behaviors are choices you physically make. When you use "choice" to describe behavioral activities you are exaggerating the point and should be reframed a gay person cannot help who they are attracted to. Otherwise it is a lie and fuel for your opposition.
gplus46 1 day ago
@gplus46 Thank you very much, genuinely. I'll try to be more delicate with my wording next time. Still, I realise the difference between the mental and physical activity, and that I may have been exaggerative in my point, but what do you believe to be "gay", the physical behavior, or the mental activity? Are you trying to suggest something, or just simply pointing out the conflicting factors and issues that could be brought up by opposing sides, giving me more reason to be careful?
thagrammarnazi 1 day ago
@thagrammarnazi
I appreciate your consideration. "Gay" is confusing since it is used interchangeably. But if it were about mental activity and occasional fantasies then almost every one would be gay; and we generally use different terms to describe cognition and behavior. So I go with the behaviorist view of gay and offer this perspective as someone interested in fair and valid arguments. And I think moving beyond "choice" would be more authentic and allow for a more meaningful debate.
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N330AA 2 weeks ago
if god is real this comment will be deleted
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I thought this was the United States where you should tolerate other peoples sexuality, gender, race and, religion?
Charlie12241 2 weeks ago
Who cares what he thinks? If god really existed we'd all be born the fucking same way.
xXHeavyMetalGodXx 2 weeks ago
Yes it is a sin.
wardawk 2 weeks ago
@wardawk So something that you have 0% control over can damn you to eternal punishment? Damn, god must be a complete fucking cunt to do that. Thanks for teaching me what a downright idiotic asshole douche bag god is, mate.
CursedZebra 2 weeks ago 18
@CursedZebra Gays have control as they claim homo attraction is only for adult males not children , thereby trying to camoflauge the high incidence and link between fagism and pedophilia, but age of consent determines what an adult is, and is set by society and is variable, some states its 16 others 18, so a faggot can control his attraction and actions, he can like 16's olds if its legal in that state, or not find them attractive if its illegal in that state. GOTCHA. Fag isa choice
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk *cringe. You sire, are an idiot. What you just said is like saying:"Black men understand that being a black child may cause them to be discriminated against so they wait until they are 21 before they turn black because then they look threatening". Your sexual preference is no more of a choice then the color of your skin and the fact that you wrote about 300 words back just shows ignorant you really are. Every reply you give to me increases your ignorance even more so watch it, kid.
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra Fuck off and die, I am not your kid.
Now black is in no way comparable to sick evil faggots.
Blacks cannot hide the fact they are black.
But faggots can choose to not act on their sick urges, much the same as pedo's or serial killers or animal fuckers.
So again be gay, but dont demand society endorse your sickness as normal.
What next retards are NORMAL too?
Hahahaha
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk Just like you can choose to be a normal intelligent human being ... oh sorry you can't help it if you're mentally deficient, have a personality disorder or are just a stupid kid. What I do know is that you lack the abiltiy to talk intelligently about a subject and should not insult your betters by participating in the debate.
JustsBob 1 week ago
@JustsBob Personal attack of such a schoolyard mentality will get u nowhere. U want a go send ur details princess. XXX
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk
1) I never said you were my kid and I'm happy about that.
2) Being black = not a choice, being gay = not a choice. They ARE the same.
3) Why should they not have sex with other men? It's natural for them to do so.
4) Society should at least understand that nothing is wrong with homosexuals.
5) "Retards" have got the same rights as everyone else, hence why your on a computer.
5 simple sentences that have blown your ignorant ways out of the water, you mad?
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra Hahaha nope I am happy as I have shown you for the fool u are.I make people mad I dont egt mad.
1. You called me kid, so dont lie.
2. Balck isnt a choice, faggotry is, only way you will ever stop me saying so is by killing me.
3.Sex between same gender happens but that doesnt make it normal, sex between animals and humans or adults and children ocurs that doesnt make it NATURAL hahahaha, u hate me yet?
Cont.
wardawk 1 week ago
@CursedZebra 4. Society understands faggotry is wrong, same as pedo, yet you want us to submit to an agenda that suits you? Nope not going to happen.
5. retards dont have the same rights as everyone else at all, but yet you still got on the internet you sneaky lil bugger, CARTMAANN!!!!!
You just got owned didnt ya punk, hahahahaha
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk Only a small minority is as ignorant as you and hates homosexuals. Sure most of America is homophobic but then again America is one of the worst countries in the world to live in anyway. By "retards" I'm guessing you mean the mentally disabled? Mentally challenged people DO have the same rights as everyone else I'll have you know and as for the little insult, you just took what I said and said it again as your own. That's pathetic. I would hardly say I got owned since you had no points.
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra Opposition isnt hatred. Your reply indicates my victory over you, I couldnt have proven it any better than that which you have.
Can retards be commercial pilots? hahahaha
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk *cringe, you know what, your a moron. I said it, moron. The amount of ignorance in your mind is fascinating if anything. It's like you were born and raised in a shack in the 1950s and never caught up with modern day society. Your lips must be brown since you talk so much shit and I honestly can't be bothered with you anymore. Go lock yourself in a box so your ignorance cannot pollute this world further, goodbye.
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra Thanks for the bite, u got owned you fool. But your spitefull reply is very infantile, I suggest you buy a Dictionary etc and expand your vocab. I WIN.
wardawk 1 week ago
@wardawk You know whats funny? Look at the top comments and you will see one of my replies is one of the top comments. That ALONE shows that more people like me than you. You call me infantile yet your whole ideal of homosexuality mimics that of a child "Yuk those two men are kissing, eww!" is what I picture when thinking of you. Even if you did know more words than me that would not strengthen your arguments in anyway since your viewpoint is wrong. You will never win, ever, at anything. Give up
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@wardawk So you admit sexuality is not a choice ("their sick urges") yet you will continue to persecute gay people regardless. Paedos and serial killers by definition have 'victims' whose freedom to live, or at least live without fear or prejudice has been taken from them. There are no victims within a consenting homosexual encounter. What's evil about that? Neither sexuality, either 'homo' or 'hetero' is a sickness. Your level of prejudice in my opinion is not NORMAL. You are not NORMAL.
AirontheThong 1 week ago
@CursedZebra He's never wrong but unfortunately humans keep screwing up! I find only support and acceptance in my religion and believe sexual oriëntation has nothing to do whether you're a good or bad person.
JustsBob 1 week ago
@JustsBob You sir, are a great person. I'm perfectly ok with people being religious but not assholes. Thank you.
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra You have no mates idiot.
wardawk 1 week ago
@CursedZebra so you judge God's position from what this guy told? Have you never thought that he might be wrong about God??
sahadevaaa 1 week ago
@sahadevaaa The Christian god described in both the old and new testament is a real asshole, noone can deny that.
CursedZebra 1 week ago
@CursedZebra
so write God as described in christian view or scriptures.
sahadevaaa 1 week ago
@CursedZebra hahaha nice bro
bigfuckinweirdo 2 days ago
@CursedZebra
I think what they are saying is that someone may be attracted to the same sex, but acting on it is the choice. All sexual activity is a choice. The choice to be a heterosexual or otherwise is a behavior/lifestyle. If someone who was attracted to the same sex resisted the temptation like an alcoholic resisted drinking Christians would be far more sympathetic.
gplus46 2 days ago
@gplus46 That's true but why should they suppress there urges? If heterosexuals can have sec together then why not homosexuals? It's basically the same thing. If someone suppresses their sexual urges in fear of it being frowned upon then what sort of society is this? People have fought wars for us to be free so why suppress others?
CursedZebra 1 day ago
@CursedZebra
Suppression was needed to preserve the species. Early humans didn't have the luxury of ss partners, actions needed to be practical. As such archetypes of human ideals were represented in male and female unions.
Also anal sex was seen as an unnatural use of the anus, so it was obviously considered unclean. I'm sure this is how Lesbianism has been more acceptable than gay relations.
gplus46 1 day ago
@gplus46 You do realise that animals around the world have been having anal intercourse without any problems. I'm sure that back in said era that there were gay couples.
CursedZebra 1 day ago
@wardawk So was fucking your mom last night.
parkerdinhwilliams15 2 weeks ago
haha, only in america
ms13694 2 weeks ago
Gotta love those Christians for being so compassionate and understanding.
This is proof as to why I'm Agnostic. I don't think God could possibly be such an asshole that he would send someone to eternal punishment and damnation because they "loved the wrong gender"
MrJXT1 2 weeks ago 24
@MrJXT1
Canada has a higher population of Roman Catholics.
America has a higher population of Darwinists,
Canada was ranked third in terms of education.
America was ranked number 14.
I hope this helps.
JamesRideout123 2 weeks ago
@JamesRideout123 There are no such people called Darwinists... wtf are you talking about?
CursedZebra 2 weeks ago
@JamesRideout123 No, it is just misleading information which doesn't make an appropriate comparison and fails to take into account the two that ranked above Canada where South Korea, made up of a lot of atheists, and Finland which is mainly Lutheran. Other countries around there are also atheistic, including Germany and Hong Kong, which are some of the highest averaging IQ citizens in the world, and Australia, whose Prime Minister is an atheist. Bleah.
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
@MrJXT1 You forgot to add 'retardedly', they 'retardedly loved the wrong gender'. So if you can't define between a male and a female and you loved the 'wrong' gender, dame you must be retarded...hence forth why God prohibited it, becuase he knew people would be that 'fucked' up to love the wrong gender...
Thegangman26 1 week ago
@MrJXT1 Just because you sinned does not mean you are damned too hell
BamaManTexasFan 1 week ago
@MrJXT1 the christian god doesnt send people to hell for loving the wrong gender, he sends them to hell for putting their junk where theyre not supposed to. I think everyone can agree that a penis seems to be made for a vagina. If it wasnt, you wouldnt be alive.
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@MrJXT1 you don't think God would want mankind to prospeer and multiply? You don't think that God would want his favorite creation to follow the laws of natural and do what is natural and gains prosperity. For instance a man and a man having sex no children come from that there is no spiritual bonding and just animal lusting in the eyes of God. So if people are attracted to children such as pedaphiles men liking little boys they shouldn't go to hell either.
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@MrJXT1 pedaphilia The only difference between gays and pedaphiles even thought a large ration of pedaphiles are from the gay community is the preference of age. homosexuality is a sin and because you don't have the holyspririt guiding you. You dont see homosexuality the way i don't and why God would oppose it. We should love all people even jesus hung out with protitutes and perverted and the poor. but You just don't see the purity in man and woman relationships. because you have the wrongheart
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@MrJXT1 reguardless of religiion people should have the right to marry. People don't realize that the bible teaches this too. The bible says do no concern yourself with politics and worldly affair for we are not of this earth. The bible says let god's will be done. The bible says in 1st peter to live as free men but do not allow your freedom to cover up for evil. The bible says homosexuality would rise and man would leave wife for man. God is the judge and these people will be judge.
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@MrJXT1 And i assure you 90% of republicans who are rich and dishonorable and promote hate as well as the democrats who are rich immoral and promote wickedness will not enter the gate of heaven for it a narrow road and this behavior is not tolerated on both sides. Stay out of politics like jesus did he did not concern himself with this world for it was not an enternal one and wouldn't be here forever. I say let as many laws against God be passed the sooner it happens the sooner im out of here.
jacosoft666 3 days ago
it is most certainly not a choice, who would choose to be bullied on a daily basis? and i would just like to point out that whilst the bible has many heterosexual love storys, it also contains some homosexual love storys. for example, David and Jonathan.
jonathanhigham 2 weeks ago
In many cases homosexuality isn't a choice. However it is not how the human body is naturally supposed to behave. But people can do what they want. Government should not be involved in married whatsoever, it's a religious practice and incorporating it into taxes and laws on a federal level violates the first amendment.
bjscaggles 2 weeks ago
equation: if heterosexuality is not a choice, then homosexuality is also not a choice.. prove to people that 10% of typical american straight people, and i mean TYPICAL (never been gay before), can turn into gay.. if not, herman cain is a TOTAL BULLSHIT
and dont talk to me about bible, bible says you can kill your son if he disobey you.. if you believe in bible, you are insane..
ctjournals 2 weeks ago
@TheRgordon Sorry, just remember to read from the start as I have said a fair bit and you are in between, it starts with "Did you really just say God wasn't a murderous sexist, or something like that at about the second page.
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
Herman Cain is so dumb sometimes. Sometimes when i think of him though, I can't help myself, I go eat some pizza. I love pizza. Not so much Herman Cain.
cheeselovingfoo 2 weeks ago
Yes it is a choice just like the man said!
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Scassizzle1231 2 weeks ago
So if homosexuals are attracted to members of the same sex, and homosexuality is a choice, then that must mean that all humans are bisexual by default.
LordNazgulKing 2 weeks ago
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Da1RiSiN1sMoKe 2 weeks ago
Of course homosexuality is a choice. Think about the social benefits you get if you chose to be gay, esecially in america. Who wouldn't want to be gay?
hanspeterpitsch 2 weeks ago
@hanspeterpitsch Perhaps the people who don't want to be beaten up and bullied, to feel inadequate and judged by your closest friend and contemplate suicide on numerous occasion because they were born differently and people hate them for it..
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes! Isn't that great? Looking at those consequences, it makes absolute sense to say that being gay is a choice. You took my comment seriously didn't you?
hanspeterpitsch 2 weeks ago
Wow, I need these many views for my videos. The gay topic is a waste of time believe there will always be people that don't agree. The people that say they hate gays should stop saying that because many men thought they hated gays before they received their long prison sentence.
insurancegame 3 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 say this, which loses the credibility of all your other claims because I could simply say, "How do you know God said that about gays?" You can say it was taken out of context, in which case I would ask you to read it and then there goes that argument, or you can say Jesus was wrong and you shouldn't stone your children, and then there is the question as to whether he was wrong about gays. It could be to make a point but why would he do it so much in the Old Testament? Bulletproof.
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@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
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@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
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@TheRgordon16 and mother" and "anyone who curseth his father or mother must be put to death." I have also mentioned before that, "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to destroy the law or prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill." and things like that. The Old Testament is still valid and Jesus even explicitly said to kill children because he said so. So there, that is man using the Bible for evil, however it is bulletproof. Jesus said this. You can either say he didn't actually
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
If he believes homosexuality is a chioce I will assume he made a conscience decision not to be gay. When did he make his choice? What informed his decision?
RoyalOakDude 3 weeks ago
Homosexuality is a condemable sin, but attemptd rape is A-OK!
Buradori0 3 weeks ago
homosexuality is a sin and a choice? WTF, Cheating on your wife with at least 3 other women is also a sin. Before you go pointing you fingers at other people you idiot point 3 more right back at you and look own life. Don't try and put other people down when your life is fucked up as well. Last time I checked, you got out of being president because of your affairs. You couldn't handle the pressure and your views are flaud. GTFO
yorkbnice 3 weeks ago
On the one hand, it's appalling that Cain believes this.
On the other hand, it's amazingly refreshing to see a politician answer a question straight for a change.
Mistwraith99 3 weeks ago 2
@Mistwraith99 because if the other republicans did, they would be riding the same boat as him. IE, not actually running for presidency anymore
ninjaone1 3 weeks ago
I aint saying being gay is wrong, but he just believe what the bible says, that sodomy (the sticking of foreign things into certain holes) is a sin, and gay people DO choose to do that... so in the wrong way, he is right :/
velenvskaelhas 3 weeks ago
@velenvskaelhas no he isnt. the bible might as well be fictional. It IS fictional.hes wrong in every way. Did you choose your hair colour. No. so if you cant choose your bodily features you cant choose if your gay or not
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velenvskaelhas 3 weeks ago
Well he is obviously an idiot you cant choose to be gay who in there right man thinks that random straight men want to be gay for the fun of it you cant help who you are attracted too this guy should understand that gay people are Born gay they do not choose to be homosexual its just the way they are and there genes No one chooses to be straight either they are born that way.
charlieiscool1000 3 weeks ago
hate such people ! -.-
homosexuality is normal!!!!!!
Loonix8 3 weeks ago
@Loonix8 by definition it isn't...
velenvskaelhas 3 weeks ago
A choice? Riiiight, because I DECIDED to be white, and my eyes are naturally blue because I WANT it that way.
Fuck off Hermain. Homosexuality is as much a choice at heterosexuality.
GenerationBright 3 weeks ago 10
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@Darius135gease "faith" is code and means "hate is OK".
zerogullibility 3 weeks ago
Homosexuality is a sin and a choice? SO IS CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE.
vdarte 4 weeks ago 21
@vdarte did the fucker cheat on his damn wife?
casperado666 3 weeks ago
LOL... Thats why Cain will not be the next President... He and so many politicians are out of touch with reality! Thank God we had the choice to NOT vote for this fool!
NakedBoyNews 4 weeks ago
Eating shell fish is as bad infront of god as being gay, so guess what we'll all fucked.
TheSolitaryTraveller 1 month ago
I had to watch a 30 second commercial for a 23 second clip?
123kats 1 month ago
basically, this guys bi. he chose women over men. amen!
TheBgoz 1 month ago
i hate when religion gets mixed into politics....keep them separate for Christ's sake....
Geo6125 1 month ago
@Geo6125 - You have to include it. HAVE to. Hundreds of thousands to millions of people have died in battle perpetuated by religion throughout human history.
"This land is ours because our religion says so!"
"No, it's OUR land because OUR religion says so!"
[begin war/battle over religious dispute about land]
Biscuitchris7again 1 month ago
Hey Herman, so is cheating on your wife and sexually harassing women
pmoyer50 1 month ago
@pmoyer50 That's why youre not suppossed to be doing any of them DUH!
chiladin 1 month ago
@chiladin : Go do your dog. DUH!
pmoyer50 1 month ago
@pmoyer50 Naw i'm good I don't own a dog, don't like em as pets so you can feel free to join your mother in mating with yours!
chiladin 1 month ago
Wearing clothing of differnt fabrics is also a sin mr cain.
Babylauncher3000 1 month ago
@Babylauncher3000 Blinking one's eyes is probably mentioned somewhere in the bible as being a sin! It is absolutely impossible to live one's life by that mother of all mythologies, the mythological, albeit entertaining, holy bible. To try and do so is an excercise in futility. May as well have fun while living your life in the here and now, rather than trying to be straightlaced Christian. Leave that for heaven. Apparently everyone gets in anyway. So have fun!!
musclen2phat 1 month ago
@musclen2phat Well i'd imagine that it's easier to live your life by the bible than to take a 7 inch cock up your ass! LOL
chiladin 1 month ago
Herman Cain is a douchebag! What the "F" does he know about homosexuality being a choice! Has he experienced this for himself, perhaps? He's a hypocrite too! He's a bible believin (not believing but believin!) Christian. Good for you, Herman. So the next time you stick your black phallus into the vagina of someone other than your wife, think Jesus! Would he approve, you bible believin Christian?
musclen2phat 1 month ago
religion is brain disease
SL4yb 1 month ago
why so any dislikes this guy made a good point
But ron paul ftw
XxCYRAXANDERMACxX 1 month ago
+It makes me sad that people like this think they're qualified to run a free country, but what makes me ever sadder is that people actually agree.
Virginityrocks 1 month ago
being black is a sin
sLugf3st 1 month ago
@sLugf3st hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ur sad but funny
saint230117 1 month ago
@saint230117 my point is that people cant control if they're black or gay.
sLugf3st 1 month ago
@sLugf3st Being black and being gay is not the same thing. Please don't try to pull blacks in homosexual because the struggle is totally different!!!
Mazao92 1 month ago
@Mazao92 Yeah I understand. There are far less homosexuals which makes them an easier target. It's sad because it's so clear that these people are who we are yet we continue to try to change them, with no success. I just hope we can start living in 2012 and not 1584. I do not understand the struggle, and why people think someone would choose to have that struggle. But to those out there, stay strong, our generation is a changed one, and don't give up the fight no matter what.
sLugf3st 1 month ago
@sLugf3st are who "they" are. sry about the confusion, personally i'm not gay. even though i don't give a shit about anyones sexual orientation, people who are somehow impacted by someone being gay or not are completely wrong and should live their own lives, not other people's lives.
sLugf3st 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 doubt, that is wrong, couldn't that mean that maybe, just maybe, other parts of it could be wrong? The whole thing even? Might it all just be a fairy tale with no happy ending?
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 course it is real but do you believe it is? And the death penalty, do you agree with that. And what about forcefully aborting other people's babies because the parents were bad people? Or what about killing women and children on purpose in a war? God is not pro-life. He orders the death penalty to just about every crime ever, and kills innocents in wars. It is sick and disgusting. Also, if you find one part of the Bible wrong, namely the three pillars as we can prove, without a
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes I am for the death penalty. Anyone that sheds man's blood then his blood is to be shed as well. That is called JUSTICE. Equal JUSTICE. Romans 1 speaks about that. INNOCENT? Do you see what children in America are doing? They are doing exactly what their parents are doing. Murdering! They were the offspring of evil people. They would only become adults in time and carry out the same evil deeds of their parent. Thats why they were also killed. Hitler was not alway an adult
TheRgordon16 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 What you just said was utter bullshit. Survival of the fittest is a fact, even if you don't believe in evolution. North, south, east and west are not corners at all, so I don't know how you got that, you also said the pillars were inside the Earth, which, I would like to add, is impossible. Even without the burning hot lava that would melt pretty much anything, how do pillars fit inside the Earth so as to hold every bit of it up? It is impossible. Also, in Mein Kampf, Hitler says,
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You claim your not religious but the reality is you are. Your "FAITH" is in the doctrine of evolution (which is false) and your gods are Luck and Chance. According to your religion it was Luck and Chance that caused the universe to come into being. Your whole belief system (which is in the name of "science") is bankrupt and ridiculous. First of all you have no idea how to read and understand the Bible. You are completely bias, having your own preconceived ideas looking....
TheRgordon16 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot for anything that appears to be flawed so that you can use against Christians. Well since you are spiritually dead; and are not spirirtually astude to know the difference between literal text and poetic expressions that are meant to convey truths in an artistic way, I will attempt to help you understand (though I know you won't) what the Bible is saying. Now, first you claim the Bible is saying the Earth is a flat circle. Then you claim it says there are four corners...
TheRgordon16 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Then you claim it talks about pillars supporting the Earth (even though I showed you in the Book of Job where it declares "He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." Job 26:7 But your nonbelieving biases have blinded you from seeing that. But needless to say I will stiil try to help you understand. This verse is indicative of that the earth was suspended in space [i.e., gravity and "hanging upon nothing"] as opposed to being held
TheRgordon16 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot ...up by pillars as you assume. First you need to know what the word "world" means in the Hebrew. The Bible speaks of both the world and the earth as having foundations. The term, "world," speaks of the order of man in the earth. As such, references to foundations and pillars of the world cannot be held as very authoritative when it comes to speaking about the shape of the earth.The term "earth," on the other hand, can not only refer to the whole earth, but also to "ground"
TheRgordon16 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 Evolution is a fact. Only when it comes to macro-evolution is it a theory, and as I have explained before (please tell me what I haven't explained adequately) it is backed up with loads of evidence. Also, whilst it make take "faith" in a broader sense, to be an atheist, it takes not even an ounce of faith to believe in evolution. I am not going to pretend that when reading the Bible I am slightly biased, however I read the Bible when I was younger and still a naive believer. I
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Im sorry I didnt have enough time to finish writing my complete thoughts. Ive been very busy so i had to stop. But I will attempt to finish answering your questions as soon as time will permit me to do so. Especially about Hitler and Creation.... Peace
TheRgordon16 4 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 For the love of God, STAY BUSY, we had enough of you and your bullshit!!!
maleenvy 4 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 Staying busy won't solve anything. I look forward to talking to you again.
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 , even though I held it in the highest esteem and was even, sadly, a creationist, had a hard time believing the killing of the children bits. This was when I believed in the book entirely. So I still have an insight into being biased in the other end, and try to keep my arguments against the Bible and my own personal experience with religion, separate. Yes, I will speak about the passages that are in my favour, this is what happens in a debate, but I won't knock aside all your
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 counterarguments. For example if you say, Jesus said to love one another, I will say yes, he did, and you should live by that and not by all the other shit in there. I will direct you towards what is wrong with the Bible, you will direct me towards some of the good stuff. It is my opinion that if you are going to use part of the Bible, you need to account for all of it, which brings us back to the flat Earth myth. Matthew 4:8 "Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory." For this to be true the world would need to be flat... and Jesus would need to have the best eyesight in the world. I accept your little "the world sits on nothingness" but you need to account for the rest of the Bible. You attempted this by speaking about the translations, but the order of man was stretched across the Earth, even in Jesus' time, especially in places like China. You speak of allegory and yet you call
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@TheRgordon16 evolution false. Why? Couldn't the creation story also be allegorical? And what about Noah's flood, the world's water supply would need to triple to reach the highest mountain and the dimensions of the Ark were smaller than that of the titanic, yet it managed to fit million and millions of species onto it, in twos, plus seven of each of the clean animals, not to mention you would need to take the plants too. And a way to dispose of all the shit, and they took no food. That, if true
ProphetOfTheTeapot 1 month ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot. Your arguments may appear to be true in your own mind.But your mind however is limited like a 4 year old child who is trying to explain the complex design of the Space Shuttle. You are not able to comprehen the Thoughts of God. As it is written, “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher
than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.”
Isaiah 55:8, 9.
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Like a child that doesn't understand why their parents may prohibit them from doing certain things that they want to do (because the parent has knowledge and experience that the child doesnt have. And the parent knows the danger that child may encounter) So you are like a child asking God "Why can't we do this and why can't we do that. And why do you do this instead of doing it my way?"
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Your argument is " God is a murderer and a sexist and a homophobe" Based on that argument (which is incorrect by the way..well the sexist and murderer part anyway) you trying to say God doesn't exist? Lets say that you were right about your opinion. Are you saying God doesn't exist because you think He is evil? And are you saying God is not real because He doesn't think like you? Since when is someones existence based on weather or not you agree with them?
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The fact is there are certain requirements that must be met in order to truly understand the Bible. First the Book is Spiritual in nature. It is a book that is made up of many different books written by many different authors. The authors were from different time periods and all wrote about what they saw and what they heard.It is amazing how so many authors from different time periods could write about the same things that gives us a complete story which ends in victory!
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The first five books was written by Moses. He testified that God had appeared to him and spoke to him throug a burning bush. He wrote about how the Earth came into existance and how it was restored from a chaotic condition. He wrote about how life began and how life reproduces after its own kind. Something we do see every day. Not macro evolution. He wrote about why mankind was so different from any other creature. He wrote about the PURPOSE of Man and the PURPOSE of Woman.
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 Did you really just say God wasn't a murderous sexist? In one of his Ten Commandments he refers to women as property and breaking the Commandments results in death. And that apparently that is the basis for western society, bullocks. If Moses wrote how life began in Genesis (which he didn't), he was completely and 100% wrong. Life did not begin all at once and snakes did not talk. The only thing he might have gotten right is that snakes did once have legs and God may have created
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot The present day creatures including man. Did suddenly spring to life. The science world has infact discovered that. The problem is they are trying to link old dead fossils to current life. But they can't because there is no link between them and us. That old world died off long ago. Genensis 1:2 tells us the Earth was without form and in a chaotic condition. But then He restores the Earth in 6 litera days creating new life forms. Evolution has never been observed
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 the Earth, other than that, false. Now, would a divine's views be my own? No. Should they be my own? No. But should they be a sexist pig? No. should they be a homophobic jackass? No. If God hated gays and women, why is he not punishing them? Why did he create them in the first place? Don't you think it is odd that the views of God are nigh on identical to the views of a wandering Palestinian tribe? Isn't it strange that God suggested not to kill and steal, and before that people
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You fool! God created all things and set everything in order as He saw fit. The Bible tells the Man to LOVE HIS WIFE AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH and how did He Love the Church? HE DIED FOR HER That is what the Bible teaches. So if a woman gets married then there is a certain role she must play. God created ORDER and it is His will that the Man be the Head of the woman. He did not create men to be "homosexuals" so stop fooling yourself about that. He created MALE and FEMALE
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot You are wrong in thinking God is sexist. The book of Corimthians tells the Man that his body doesnt belong to himself but it also belongs to his wife. And the wifes' body doesnt belong to herself but it also belongs to her husband. When speaking about coveting another man's property there is nothing wrong with calling the wife his property. She does belong to him and he belong to her. That is what property means. And no one is to look at her and desire her so as to steal her
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago
@TheRgordon16 suggested not to kill and steal. All the way back in Mesopotamia people had the eye for eye, tooth for tooth system, the same basic laws, roughly the same morals, and even today, while people have become more civilized than just, kill a killer (except in some states that also happen to be very religious), everyone still knows not to steal, cheat, murder. This makes God's Commandments redundant, considering people were following them anyway. The only new one's he brought in were, if
ProphetOfTheTeapot 2 weeks ago
@ProphetOfTheTeapot Yes because the Bible tells us that God's law is written on man's heart. Therefore its no suprise that others spoke about not stealing or killing. But those societies all died off and their writing are not used anymore. But the Books of the Bible still remain and are still influencing billions of people! Thats because the Bible is alive! It brings spiritual life. Jesus said "The words I speak to you; they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE"
TheRgordon16 2 weeks ago