في كل عائلة مسلمة فرد او اكثر عضو او متعاطف مع الاخوان المسلمين, انا شخصيا التحقت بهم لعامين هادئين ولست نادما على الفعاليات التي قمت بها معهم وليس عندي كره لأي ممن عملت معهم
لكن الاخوان تنظيم هرمي قد تمضي عمرك في طبقة او اكثر منه , دون
هذا الهرم ليس له علاقة بالتراتبية التنظيمية (السرية والعلنية) التي نراها في الحياة العامة والتي تنتهي بالمرشد العام , فالمرشد العام ذو صلاحيات اقل بكثير من الاعضاء في التنظيم العالمي في هذا القطر او ذاك ودوره تنفيذي اكثر منه
مركز التنظيم العالمي (لندن وجنيف) ويتستر خلف مؤسسات مالية ومراكز بحوث ومشاريع خيرية وهو مرتبط تاريخيا (كشريك) مع منظمات مشابهة لها نفوذ في السياسات العالمية كنادي روما ومعهد اسبن وجمعية حماية الحياة البرية والبنك الدولي ومعهد الرقابة الدولية وغيرها
من واجهاتهم في لندن "المؤسسة الاسلامية" التي اسسها خورشيد احمد وزير الاقتصاد في حكومة ضياء الحق"باكستان" بالتعاون مع سالم عزام "مصر" والذي انبثق عنها ا"المعهد الاسلامي للتقنية الدفاعية" بالتعاون مع "حلف النيتو", , والفيدرالية الدولية للدراسات التي اسسها معروف الدواليبي
"سوريا" مع نادي روما "الكسندر كنج: بريطانيا" و"اريلو بيشي التايكون الصناعي الايطالي"
سالم عزام هو ابن عبدالرحمن عزام الامين العام الأول لجامعة الدول العربية التي انشأتها بريطانيا وعم ايمن الظواهري "المطلوب للعدالة على مدار الثلاثين سنة الماضية لاكثر من دولة" والمتنقل
فالجماعات المنشقة عن الاخوان وبعض الجماعات المتعارضة معهم وتنظيمهم المحلي هي واجهات للتنظيم العالمي للاخوان وهذا يسهل عليهم توسيع قاعدتهم التنظيمية باحتكار غالبية الناس الذين لهم ميل للتدين (الثوري والاصلاحي والتوفيقي والانقلابي ..الخ)
اثناء الحرب الباردة استخدم الاخوان ابناء المسلمين كوقود لمعارك المعسكر الرأسمالي "حليفهم" ليس في افغانستان فقط بل على امتداد الخط الفاصل بين اوروبا الشرقية والغربية والخطوط المتحركة للمواجهة (المشاريع الاستخبارية) , بعد الحرب الباردة ما زال غالبية المسلمين يفكرون
روسيا استوعبت الخسارة وعادت كقوة اقليمية وكذلك فعلت الصين والهند , العالم الاسلامي لم يقم بأي مراجعة تذكر , لا بل تحركت الانظمة التقليدية المهترئة اسرع من شعوبها ومفكريها ومثقفيها (ومرد ذلك ان الخطاب الاسلامي الذي بدأ يكتسب مدا شعبيا كان سطحيا
وافقيا وعاطفيا بلا عمق فكري او ثقافي او ابداعي , تلقيني وتنظيمي على العموم , فكر فقط بشعار "الاسلام هو الحل" وحاول ان تجد له معنى او مضمون او بناء اجتماعي او مؤسسي , ستخرج صفر اليدين , تجتر فتاوي وترغيب وترهيب وسفسطة كلام) ولكن الانظمة على الاقل فعلت مجلس التعاون الخليجي
وانشأت الاتحاد المغاربي والاتحاد العربي (مصر,العراق, اليمن, الاردن, عمان) فلا مكان في العالم الجديد للصغار فحتى اوروبا انشأت وحدة وكذلك دول امريكا اللاتينية
العالم الاسلامي والعربي بالذات كان الاضعف والمرشح الاقوى للخروج من لعبة (القوي والضعيف) الازلية
واضحة : الهيمنة على الموارد الطبيعية والتمتع بها وتقليل عدد المستهلكين "الآخرين" لها
خطورة الاخوان المسلمين تكمن في تشكيل ثقافة غير مؤمنة بالدستور والقانون المدني على الرغم من استخدامها لهذا الدستور والقانون للوصول او المشاركة بالسلطة , فهم يترشحون ويستثمرون ويتحالفون
ويتظاهرون ويترافعون في القضايا العامة ولكنهم يسعون للانقلاب على الحكم والاستفراد به , بزعزعة النظام (اغتيال السادات ومحاولة اغتيال مبارك) وعند تعرض النظام لضغط خارجي يسعون الى اضعافه من الداخل باعادة ترتيب الاولويات وتحريك الشارع , وعن زوال الخطر يحتون الخسارة ويتكيفون
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم إنت ليه فاهم الإخوان غلط بالرغم أن هم هدفهم الاصلاح وتقدم البلد يعني تطبيق شرع الله ومحدش فيهم قال ان هدفهم جعل مصر كلها اخوان .أحنا مصلحتنا ان احنا نساعد بعض مش ننقد ونهاجم بعض. والاخوان مش هيفرق معاهم اللي هيحقق هدفهم
وكمان مش معني انك تكون مش اخوان انك تكون عدو للاخوان لمجرد انك مختلف بل ده ادعي انك تشتغل معاهم في جهودهم اللي بيبذلوها علشان الاصلاح ده لو انت فعلا زي مابتقول في الفيديو .......مصري
برضو وقعت في نفس الخطأ اللي وقع فيه كتير من غير ما يقصدوا واكتر متعمدين وهو ان الاخوان عايزين كل مصر اخوان والحقيقة_اللي بتأكدها تصرفات الاخوان وتصريحاتهم_انهم عايزين مرجعية مصر تبقي اسلامية وده لا يعني _لو كنت فاهم_انك تبقي من الاخوان
إلى كل وطني عاقل ومثقف:ان الأخوان يتخذون من سوء أحوال البلد ذريعة للشكوى عليها،أي أنه حق أُريد به باطل..ولو سمحتوا اقروا التاريخ، وصدق من قال:أيها الدين ما أكثر الجرائم التي تُرتكب باسمك
watch the video again, may be u gonna understand. I hope from all my heart u join ur beloved Hassan Al-Banna where he is right now ... of course after long long long life for you.
I didn't expect u to understand my comment! This is based on the fact that ur question "whats wrong with Ikhwan?" shows that u didnt understand the video either.
Oh I understand the video, it seems you don't understand it, judging by your comment: "hope from all my heart u join ur beloved Hassan Al-Banna where he is right now ...", or perhaps you were trying to insult me?
This video, and its creator, are not pro-Ikhwan, and I'd say, judging from his comments, that he's anti-ikhwan. Therefore I stated my response. You got a problem with that? Or is that another thing you don't understand?
1st: I have no problem with ur response, thats why I wished u would join ur beloved Hassan El-Banna.
2nd: If u understand the video u wouldn't ask a question like "what is so bad about Ikhwan?" because the whole point of this video is to answer ur question. When u come after the video and ask this question again that means u still at square one. May be u r not a visual learner, I will give u a hint: IKHWAN ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE THEY DON"T REPRESENT THE EGYPTIAN DIVERSE SOCIETY
This video doesn't address any real constructive criticism of Ikhwan, just the regurgitated paranoia of secular Egyptins I've seen. That's why I asked "what is so bad about Ikhwan". The video doesn't really answer the question at all. I'm asking the person himself, and those who believe the same way he does, to actually answer the question instead of dodging it. Ikhwan, and Islam for that matter, represents diverse society. And if the people want Ikhwan, you are nobody to tell them no. Got it?
It is not a paranoia, it is a fact. Look at any Religion based society Iran, Saudia Arabia and Taliban are good examples. For everything there is a code; including but not limited to dress code. Women are opressed to dress in a certain way and if didn't comply they face consequences. I don't want to live in a coded country where other decide for me what to eat or dress or when or how to go to cafes or beachs. Religion based rulers resonate God judgements and arguing isn't allowed. Thanks
Ur talking about different places with different ideologies. Islam and its schools aren't monolithic. Ikhwan aren't puritans like Wahhabis that dominate Taliban and Saudi ideology. In fact Hamas, which dominates Gaza right now, governs by Sharia but does not allow Wahhabist ideology to hinder their people's freedoms. And if u know anything, Hamas is an offshoot of Ikhwan. Ur using the same paranoia that secularists commonly apply to "warn" people against the "taliban-like" ikhwan. It's nonsense.
Basicly, I don't want a government that judges me as a believer or non-believer vs good and bad citizen. Although I and u disagree, I am sure there is no hard feelings. We are exercising an important civil right; FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Something that is void in religion based idiology, which btw are the same anywhere and in any culture and any religion. Think about about it, denial won't help, history sides with me. I am gonna address some points in ur comment later, I am busy with Finals.
You say that as if a "non-believer" automatically qualifies u as a "bad citizen". You seem to have very huge misconceptions about Ikhwan and their ideology, and again generalizing all religious movements into one monolithic entity only serves to further weaken your argument. Your shallow reference to the Taliban is a perfect example. And history sides with those who actually know it, so don't pretend like you have some high ground here when you haven't proven any thing.
Dude listen, I didn't say non-believer qualifies as bad citizen, read again. I said judges me according to religion (believer or nonbeliever) not according to my citizenship (good citizen or bad citizen). And I didn't say Taliban is perfect example, I said they just a good example of religion based regime. I didn't say all religion based regimes have monolithic entity, I said they don't allow freedom of speech. Read carefully, don't make a joke of urself then accuse others of being shallow.
Well you make that analogy. You're citizenship is what you're judged upon, in a religious state or otherwise. You are judging the Ikhwan based on an illusion that they are exactly like the Taliban which illustrates your hideous ignorance of Islamic movements and their various beliefs throughout the world. You don't seem to understand the difference between moderate and radical, which is a shame coming from an Egyptian. I'd expect that from a westerner.
Tell me about Ikwan ideology!! "Islam is the solution" what kind of political campaign is this. What about those who don't this to be their solution. Speaking of Hamass, they ignited civil war. How about Hezb-Allah who dragged Lebanon to war without evening considering the consequences on their own country, they didn't care, tozz fi Lebnan, Does this sound familiar? oh wait I recall El-Morshed El-3am of Ikwan said tozzz fi Masr before. Thats what I meant by history , learn form past experiences.
You say the Taliban is a perfect example of Ikhwani ideology, and then you say you don't believe all religious regimes are monolithic. If you want to lie, then do so in a more subtle fashion. What's wrong with "Islam is the solution"? They believe it is the correct path to govern the Muslim masses. And Islam is an inherent part of Arab, and other countries' culture, and political history for the last thousand or so years.
Again I didn't say they are perfect example, read my fourth post to u and don't make a fool of urself. My exact words were "It is not a paranoia, it is a fact. Look at any Religion based society Iran, Saudia Arabia and Taliban are good examples." Islam isn't a solution for every body, thats whats wrong with "Islam is the solution" ideology. And thats what the video is about, it is simple, u think it is for u, go for it. Just don't out cast me and call me ignorant cause I disagree.
Okay sorry for saying the word "perfect", even though for the sake of argument, you're words weren't much different. And Islam is a solution for everybody. Even Copts vote for the Ikhwan because they're sick of the current regime. You say the slogan is not for everybody without fact. I criticize you for this factless ignorance, and not your opinions. If you have an opinion, you are expected to support with substance, not rhetoric. Unfortunately, you've yet to do so.
With that in mind, it's no wonder why people from Algeria, to Lebanon, to Egypt, to Palestine, voted for and support Islamic movements en masse. In Palestine, Hamas was democratically elected. And Fatah, angered by their loss of power, attacked Hamas. They were the ones who instigated a civil war. And Hamas took Gaza as a result, even despite Fatah being armed by the US and Israel.
"people from Algeria, to Lebanon, to Egypt, to Palestine, voted for and support Islamic movements en masse" and others have voted against in masses. Thats politics, disagreement creates diversity. In islamic regimes disagreement creates "تطبيق الحد" lol I personally don't want that, I am free to choose who represents me, whats ur problem. Is this consistant and intelligent enough for ur big head lol
And can you please name me which ones were "voted against in masses"? And I mean in countries that aren't dictatorships that rig elections. There are few regimes even calling themselves "Islamic State", so to say "In islamic regimes disagreement creates تطبيق الحد" highlights your own lack of knowledge, yet again. Again, don't expect your rhetoric to go without criticism (something you value so much) while you continue to do this. It appears you have a problem with criticism. lol, grow up.
Hezbollah had been kidnapping dozens of Israeli soldiers before 2006, since Israel still control areas of southern Lebanon. The Israelis just chose that one incident when Hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers as a pretext for war. It was methodical, and calculated, and it brought devastation to Lebanon. Not Hezbollah's fault. And this issue is irrelevant to our discussion, which is your blind and misconceived ignorance of Ikhwan and "Islamism" in general, which you fail to distinguish its variations
Thats great and Hezbollah is doing a great job. They are so smart, kidnapped a soldier and unleashed the military might of Israel. That says a lot about Hezbollah wise and efficient tactics. Thats why I dont want rag heads representing me. or someone like Mahdy 3akef who once said TOZZZZ fi Masr. Imagine a US presentational candidate said tozz fi USA, would he even be considered for the race!! Mahdy 3akef said Tozz fi Masr, thats enough for me, and I am free to choose: NO IKHWAN. wats ur problem
Hezbollah were having numerous skirmishes with Israel and kidnappings happened before 2006. This was nothing new to Israel, which just so happened to use those certain kidnappings as an excuse to devastate all of Lebanon. The factu don't know this makes me doubt ur knowledge further. But what makes me doubt your objectivity is your racist comment: "Thats I don't want rag heads representing you" lol, thank you for showing me ur true colors. And please, do prove Mahdi Akef said "tozzz fi masr"
Have u forgotten the days when Ikhwan carried arms and went around bombing cafes in Egypt, is that the kind of ideology they deal with political opponents?!! Thats their true face, again learn from history because it sides with me. Tell me how Shities and Sunnies deal with each others in Iraq?!! Again I am not generalizing but thats how those who rule by religion deal with others, they only know 2 categories Believer or Nonbeleiver.
Bombing which cafe? There was widespread riots in Egypt after the 1948 war loss, which further fueled hate for the Monarchy. Ikhwan was no more responsible for the events than any other group in the country. Hassan Al-Banna had little control over the Secret Apparatus after the 1948 war, and repeatedly condemned their independent actions which fell out of line with Ikhwan and their creed. Ur speaking of events that happened 60 years and attempting to pass it off as a "victory". Sorry, try better
what 1940's r u talking about .. I am talking about the 1990's, when they bombed cafes in Downtown Cairo and slaughtered tourists in Old Cairo and Luxor .. Have u forgotten about Luxor or u trying to ignore the dirty history!!
ahahahahahaha Thank you for showing me you can't tell the difference between Gamaat Islamiya or Islamic Jihad, from Ikhwan. If I've "forgotten" history, then you're certainly fabricating it. Thank you for humiliating yourself. I suggest you stop before you make it worse. :)
Sunnis and Shia in Iraq have never had problems until Saddam Hussein's dictatorship antagonized the Shia. And he was a SECULAR ruler. The Americans and their occupation have furthered the rift in the country, and even MI5/MI6 have apoligized for conspiring to bomb a Basra mosque in 2005. This is already documented info. And Iraq is not a religious government right. This is another irrelevant brought up by you.
it is not irrelevant, u just need to dust ur mind. There always a reason, the agression between sunnis and shiies is because saddam and the agression of muslisms against west is because of the crusades and the list of reasons is extending blah blah. However, it is ur choice to use the list or ask urself what is the real reason. where all this hatred came from? I am not waiting an answer from u and don't bother to send me any more posts. My mind is set and urs is set too.
Now I hope your next series of comments are consistent and intelligent. It's meaningless to discuss ideological issues with ignorants who believe every Islamist is like the Taliban.
oh man I will try not to be ignorant and I have faith in ur patience haha ... but I'd rather to speak my mind and Ikhwan are not for me ... u enjoy every bit of ur support cause this forbidden group of radicals won't rule ... I read recently that Leaders of Ikhwan were fished out and jailed, not cool not cool haha
You hav your right to not like Ikhwan, and no one's stopping you. But no that if you're going to flaunt your reasons to someone, you should expect a response. And judging from your last comment about the 1990's terrorist attacks in Egypt, your arguments are no longer credible. Not cool not cool hahaha
I paused for a second to look for a valid point to response to, I couldnt find any. All what u doing is negating me and calling me ignorant and lier. I got no answer for that. u r repeating urself and if I have to answer I would repeat myself too. u r a broken record. All facts against u are rigged and fabricated. Moreover, u went too far when u calimed that Copts support Ikhwan lol r u out of ur mind! Don't speak for Copts. u don't know that Mahdy Akef said toz fi Masr! This is fabricated too?
The only in denial's u, and as a result, ignorant and lier are fair descriptions of u. U don't have clear understanding of Islamist movements and r in no position to discuss Ikhwan. Now ur dodging the issue in an attempt to belittle me. Predictable. I will remind u of ur failure to prove anything should u continue to respond. Period. And u want my proof Copts supported Ikhwan? Just watch "A nation in waiting" program from aljazeeraenglish. And u still haven't proved Mahdi Akef said toz fi masr.
Still nothing to answer to but nonsense, more insults and attitude. It is true that one shouldn't argue with someone who read only 1 book cause he thinks that the knowledge of the whole world is in that book. And whoever was in that Aljazeera program most definitely don't represent Copts. If Copts object that Shari3a be a source of the constitution, how on earth would they support Ikhwan. I wouldn't jump to conclusion that u r ignorant and don't have clear understanding of blah blah, like u did.
Simply responding to your initial barrage of nonsense, insults, and attitude. I guess you don't appreciate the Golden Rule :) And when did I ever tell you I read only 1 book? You're just making up stuff now. Aljazeera is a credible source, and it's obvious you didn't check the programme I recommended. Therefore you have the answer to your own inconsistent question. Bye bye :)
google مهدي عاكف طظ في مصر he said it in an interview with روزاليوسف Obviously u didnt understand my metaphor about the book, expected. I didn't insult u, I only disagreed with u, but u people (Ikhwan) consider disagreement as an insult. About that program, there is no political representative for copts so the idea that copts support a political party is silly, I don't need to watch the program to judge. And what inconsistency has to do with this, the word u r looking for is judging blindly. bye
Nothing but forums, no news site, nothing. No credible source. So out the window with your accusation. And I understood your metaphor. Keep your cheap insults out of the fray, they serve no purpose now that you've humiliated yourself. I consider anyone who bases his opinion on rhetoric instead of fact an ignorant, such as you. Had you presented yourself in a better, more informed way, things would turn out differently. And I never said most Copts support Ikhwan, nor are they representing them.
Metaphor isn't a cheap insult. And if u understood my metaphor u wouldn't have said "And when did I ever tell you I read only 1 book?" Dude respect ur audience. u r insulting my intelligence. u said Copts support Ikhwan that means Copts as a whole. again respect ur audience.
I understood it, and it was cheap because I never even mentioned books, therefore you could've come up with a better one. I gladly insult someone's intelligence when they have none. I said Copts support Ikhwan, not all Copts. But there are Copts that do. Again, learn to read.
when u say Americans support the war, that means all Americans support the war not some of them. And u r talking about intelligence, u r really not worth talking to. Shut up u make me sick. Shut up. I am done with u
yeah cause u keep saying big words u don't know what they mean. like calling a metaphor a cheap insult. And no I don't need to watch the program. cause Coptic Church doesn't interfere in politics. And Coptic politicians don't represent the Coptic Church, this is a well known fact. And if all u found is forums u need to dig deeper. There is no smoke without fire.
lol, man you take phrases at face value too much. You truly do not understand reading comprehension, let alone the ability to insult. I actually feel sorry for you. I never said anything about the Coptic church establishment, I'm saying Coptic people, some of which support Ikhwan. I did dig deeper, and so far nothing substantial, nothing credible.
PS: You're obsession with having the last word is getting tedious :)
I meet people in the west who endured the religious regimes to which they were former supporters and they regret the day it became true. ehhh u wanna learn the hard way. I am done here.
very nice video..& i agree with evrything in it...besides that i think that masr(egypt) is better without ikhwan,& that's 2 protect all the egypians not just a group of ppl even though they r the majority ....(not an egypian,but love egypt)..thanks 4 the video,goooood jobb ...peace..salam
غيرها (اللي ممكن ناس كتير ما تتفقش معاهم فيه) على غيرهم الاخوان علامة التقسيم والفتنة في المجتمع من يوم ظهورهم كفكر مش بس كتنظيم... احنا أولا بني أدمين وبعدها ممكن نبقى مصريين أو غيره أما حكاية مسلمين دي فأمر ربنا أمر بيه كشىء شخصي
غيرها (اللي ممكن ناس كتير ما تتفقش معاهم فيه) على غيرهم الاخوان علامة التقسيم والفتنة في المجتمع من يوم ظهورهم كفكر مش بس كتنظيم... احنا أولا بني أدمين وبعدها ممكن نبقى مصريين أو غيره أما حكاية مسلمين دي فأمر ربنا أمر بيه كشىء شخصي
الموضوع مالوش دعوة بأشخاص الأخوان والكويس فيهم أو الوحش.. هم زي أي فئة في البلد والعالم فيهم الاتنين بس مشكلتهم كلهك أنهم بيبتدوا الصباح بتقسيم البشر والأشياء لمين وراهم وورا القرآن ومين مش كده ولأنهم عايزين يفرضوا قيمهم الأخلاقية (وبيقولوا عليها القيم الالهية) أو
يعنى لامؤاخزة هيضحكوا على مين لما يقولوا قال الله وقال الرسول ويدعوا واحد زى حضرتك وزيى من المتعلمين الى العودة الى الدين انا يعنى مش هعرف اقرا وافرق بين اوامر ربنا و بين الاعراف والنظم والاخلاقيات اللى بتتنافى معاها
الموضوع مالوش علاقة بأشخاص الاخوان والكويس فيهم أو الوحش.. هم زي أي فئة في العالم فيها الاتنين بس مشكلة الاخوان أنهم بيبتدوا الصباح بتقسيم العالم مين وراهم وورا القرآن ومين لأ وأنهم بيفرضوا قيمهم الأخلاقية أو
الجماعة حسب - ما ارى وان كانت كدة فعلاً -جماعة اسلامية تنموية اجتماعية ثقافية نهضوية سياسية ذات مرجعية اسلامية وليست متطرفة ...اللى قتلوا السادات مش من الاخوان دى جماعة الجهاد الاسلامية اللى مختلفة مع الاخوان على طول الخط
وانت طيب وكل المسلمين طيبين ان شاء الله مبدئياً انا مش من الاخوان ، لكن ده ما يمنعش انى ادلى برأيى او ادافع عنهم ومش انا اللى ادافع عنهم لكن انا مش عايز الخلط بين جماعة الاخوان وجماعات التكفير وجماعة الجهاد
we 3alafekra ana ma3rafsh law enta wa7ed menhom walaken ana lama hagemtohom ana kont a2sod el fekr nafso wel gena7 el mota3aseb ely beyad3o lil fawda. Ana 2areet el profile beta3ak we fee kalam mo7taram we gameel yanom 3an sha7'siya gameela. 3amatan ya a7'oya law 7'at el kalam ely 2olto 2ehana leek ana ba3tezerlak wa laken ana mo2men belly ba2olo we shokran.
kattar 7'ero hosni mubarak ragel tayeb sabhom ya7'do 88 korsy. Ana law makan hosni kont sagant kol wa7ed feehom beyad3o lil irhab,wel takfeer wel el fetan el ta2ifiya. Enta mesh hatefham asdy we 3aref radak eih mosaba2an laken rabina yostor men fekrohom el haddam el mota7'alef.
لو فكرهم متعصب متشدد متطرف، ولما يقولوا القرآن دستورنا،ولما يدعوا ان مرجعيتهم دينية وما تكونش فعلاً كدة وايضاً لما يؤججوا الفتن الطائفية يبقوا فعلاً افكارهم هدامة ، مضلة ، ارهابية
اذكر نفسى واياك ...فيه اصلاح افضل من العودة للتدين والدين ...ده حسب ظنى اللى بيدعوا الاخوان اليه...اصلاح البنية التحتية البشرية...العلمانيين واعداء الدين -الكتييييير قوى مش عايزين كدة
We fel nehaya homa ely 3amalo tanzeem el qa3da el besababo 7'alo kelab zay bush yemseko america we yeda7'alo el muslimeen fee 7orob homa mesh adaha. Ana a3raf el e7'wan aktar mennak we shoftohom we shoft tafkerhom el rag3y el irhaby.
Ana msh Ikhwan ana msh Ikhwan w ah ruby 7orra w bet3abar 3an 7oreyetha belra2s w el ra2s da mn arka el fonoon weli y2ool gher kda mabyfhamsh , w leli by2ool en el 7ezb el watany howa sabab el e5tlaf wel tanawo3 eli f masr a2ollo la2 sorry el 7ezm el watany mwady masr f 60 dahya , ana msh ba7eb el ekhwan w bakrah el 7ezb el watany , homma el etnen anyal mn ba3d.
Maho ya sadat law el 7ezb el watany makansh massek kan el e7'wan homa ely mesko we a7alo dammak 3ala el kalam ely enta bet2olo walla ruby we 7'alaso 3aleek. 3ala fekra ana ma3a kol ely 2olto laken ba7'talef ma3ak 3an ro2yetak lil 7ezb el watany. El 7ezb el watany sama7 bi 7oriya makanitsh mawgooda ayam nasser wel sadat allah yer7amhom
walla we7sha walla 7aga. El e7'wan atalo el sadat, atalo 97 saye7 fee aswan, 7ara2o kanayess e7'wana el mes7iyeen, eda7'alo fee fetan ta2efeya, beyo7goro el deen 3ala nafsohom, we kol el 3amaliyat el erhabiya fee masr ya homa 3amaloha aw nass et3alemo fekrohom we 3amaloha.
Mogtama3 masr feeh el e7'telaf da 3ahsan el hezb el watany. Law el e7'wan mesko makanoosh hay7'alo el banat ely bet2ool hi. Walla kano hayedba7o ruby we kano ha ye7ra2o masr. 3ashan keda ya masriyeen adaro hosni mubarak da ragel 3azeem we kefaya eno sama7lokom be 7oriya 3omrokom konto hatla2oha
leh bas ya 3am ana 3esh t fee canada we shoft arab el denya feeha. Masr mfeesh a7san menha ba sha3b masr ys e7na mesh 3arfeen emitha. Wel e7'wan dol shewayet s rakash malhomsh soot.
7aga 3ageeba eno el wosool lel 7okm ka'ano moseeba aw 3amal ghalat,tab we feeha eh .ana 3awez awsal lel 7okm howa da 3eib ommal elly fel 7okm 3amleen 7aga ghalat ,3eib ya3nee wala 7aram eno ab'a 3awez awsal lel 7okm!!!( tab3an ana shakhseyan mesh 3awez wala 7okm wala neela enama efred gadalan ya3nee ab'a kafart ...eh el demagh dee .we tab3an ana la ekhwan wala 7aga bas el fekra dee meghalebany...kol shwaya ye'olak folan 3ando ATMA3 fel 7okm...7ad yefasarly leeh atma3 leh mosh tomoo7 masalan...
Very nice video Ahmed, Egypt wud be a lot better if more people believe in that and just look at each other as HUMANS not christians or muslims or african or dark or ligh ...
لالا يا عم مش كدة خالص باعتبار روبى شكلها مصرى يعنى وبتؤمن ان الرقص تعبير عن النفس من خلال الهز لأن العضو المتحرك يقوى وان خير الأمور الوسط و احب اسمع اغنية ..... لا داعى عشان منقولش حاجة خارجة هههههههههههههههههههههههههههه
I m not pro-ikhwan yaahmed, but mn bab awlaa, as u r calling for freedom for urself, u call for thier right to present thier view and the people would choose, instead of considering that Ikhwan doesn't suit egypt. In islam, there isn't something called religous state.
el e7'wan la mesko masr hate7'rab ya ged3an wallahi hatbooz we nob2a zay el 3era2. dol bekafaro el nass we hay asemo bena . Masr balad gameel we rabina ye7'aly hosni 7ameeha
اخى الحرية ليها حدود زى ما انتقد الشيخ ابو اسحاق شعار فيما معناه الحرية الحقيقية هى ترويج كل مذهب وابداء كل الآراء لجريدة القاهرة واشار لأفضل تعربف للفوضى افضل من كدة نسأل الله العافية
El video gameel gedan ya a7mad laken ana 3ateb 3aleek 3ashan hogomak el sa7'er 3ala hosni mubarak. Da ragel momtaz wallahi we howa ely beye7my ely zayak men el e7'wan. lawel e7'wan mesko hasafo ely zayak .i hope you try to reduce your attack on hosni
teb2a enta elli mosh fahem we ba3dein enta bada2t resaltak be la2 ma3leshi ya3ni afham men kalamak ennak ded el ekhwan? ka2en howa el wa7eed elli dedohom aghlabeyat masr dedohom. de gama3a ma7zoora we motashadedeen we 2alabo el deen seyasa we 3ayzeen dawla eslamia ya3ni ma3andehomsh ay wala2 lemasr wala2hom lel deen mosh lel watan
If islam was implemented, no one would ever suffer from discrimination nor injustice. If u read Medina Convenant, of prophet Muhamed to the christians and jews, u would find that it holds the real true meaning of Al Mwatna for everyone, regardless of his faith.
we arent in the early days of islam get real he may have had a convenant with the jews n the christians but the muslims of today havent also the ppl that would suffer the most from an islamic state in egypt are the like of me el moslemeen el 3elmaniyeen n no 3elmany doesnt mean kafir it just means not very religious we would suffer the most from el ekhwan n their manifesto
If u "muslim", u would believe that ur creator, is the best one who knows you well, cause he is ur creator, and when he gave u a set of instructions to follow, it was the best way, for you to live. Moreover, many things in Islam sharia aren't fixed and simply develop with time and society conditions
هو فيه ايه انتى شغالة على طول انت ساذج انت ساذج ، قوليلى اى رد موضوعى على اى حاجة مش بالنفى وخلاص اثبتيلى انهم مجرمين و انهم غير اصلاحيين ....العلمانية اكبر غزو فكرى ابتلاينا بيه وشكراً على زوقك
el 3afow- meen elli 2atal el sadat? mosh homa- we mat2oleesh eno yestahel mafish 7ad yestahel yet2etel 2odam ahlo bel shakl dah e7na mosh rabena 3ashan ne7aseb el nas. morshed el ekhwan 2al toz fi masr we abo masr we elli fi masr- we lamma 2alolo el mase7iyeen 2alo hayemsho men el balad lamma ento te7komo 2al ma3 alf salama wana hashterelhom el tazaker benafsy. we kaman 2al 3adi lamma ye7komna wa7ed malizi el mohem yekoon moslem we maqar el khilpha yekoon el qahira
اولاً قتل السادات ما كانش خالص عن طريق الاخوان تانياً المرشد نف بعد كدة انه يكون قال الكلام ده وانه متلفقله فى جرنان مش فاكره و مجبش سيرة المسيحيين خالص وقتها
as for el 3elmania - fa heya mosh kofr zay ma bey2ololkom fi masr heya fekr siasy mosh deeny- beyeb3ed el siasa 3an el deen laken el ekhwan beysayeso el deen we 3ayzeen masr teb2a zay el sa3odia we el setat telbes kheyam we ye2olo khemar we neqb zay ma labeso el setat el hijab - el dawla el deenia 3'alat madam fee aktar men deen fel balad leih teb2a el marge3ya deenia leih mateb2ash marge3ia ensania we nekhali el deenfel kinisa wel game3 bas leih el howas el deeni dah fi masr?
فكر بطـــاااااااااااااااااااااااال نشأ فى الغرب نتيجة سيطرة القساوسة على الحكم فى القرون الوسطى لدرجة انهم كانوا بيعملوا حاجة اسمها صكوك الغفران يدَّفعوا الناس فلوس وبقولولهم هدخلكو الجنة
ana moslema we mowa7da laken mosh 3awra we ba7terem nafsi aktar men keda bekteer - 3omri ma ha3teber nafsi wala ay set mogarard gesm lazem yetghata law kan el khemar we el kheyam el metnaqaba dee heya el islam yeb2a 2ool 3la el islam el salam el islam delwa2ty fee masr ba2a mokhtasar fel hijab we khemar wel niqab mosh fel tasarofat. al 7amdulilah enni mosh fi masr
meen gaab seeret nawal el sa3dawy? we ba3dein nawal el sa3dawy mosh we7sha enama tab3an enta fe masr far7an bel mogtama3 el zokoory le2ano fi masla7tak. el mohem el dabate dah maloosh lazma l2en i dont live in egypt so these things dont directly affect me bas bardo baladi fa 2olt a2ool ra2ye
ههههههههه اوعى ترجى لمصر . هستناكى فى المطار واكعبلك واوقعك على بوزك. بس ياريت ماتبقيش لابسه ولا حجاب ولا جمار ولا نقاب. ياريت تبقى لابسه ستومك عشان لما تقعى اتفرج عليكى. مش انت هتفرحى كدا؟ وطبعا هتكونى جايه مع الديوس. عالعموم اهلا بيه فى وطنه
leih 2elet el 2eema de- enta khaleit nafsak shaklak rekhees awy bel comment de. ana 2olt ra2ye we mosh talba el nas teqtene3 beeh-zay ma ana ba7terem elli labsa hijab wel beyeheb el ekhwan lazem homma kaman yehtermona-enta shaklak 2aleel el fekr we ma3andaksh 7aga te2olha fa 2olt teheen el nas
رخصت نفسى فين يا هلهوطه. انا ولا اخوان ولا يحزنون ومابحبش الاخوان, ومابحبش اللى زيك من مدعى الثقافه الفكريه. سؤال صغير على ادك. تعرفى مين مؤلف كتاب نعم ولا؟
لما تقولى رائيك وبس يبقى تسمعى رأى الاخرين وبس, لكن لما تدعى امتلاكك لفكر وثقافه معينه وهى مش موجوده , بكدا بتكونى بتعيشى اللحظه اون لاين. زى اى حد عادى بيعيش اللحظه اون لاين
للاسف دائما الاسلام مهاجم من انصار الزندقه والليبراليه محبى الخمر والمفاسد والمشكله انهم فى البطاقه مسلمين.
MrMongez 1 month ago
تحفة
انا مش اخوااان
mahmoud0elsaeed 9 months ago
تحفة
mahmoud0elsaeed 9 months ago
إذا كنت كل دول يبقي ماعندكش شخصيه!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freenemr511 1 year ago 2
وعلى كل لون يا باتيستا
قررررررررررررررررررب قرب قرب قرب
هو فى ايه يا عم ... انا صحيح مش من الاخوان لكن الموضوع عندي مش بيتنجان
ISLAMCISMYLIFE 1 year ago 2
فعلا انت مش اخوان بس بيضااااااااااان
usalem 1 year ago 2
لون الاخوان...حنخلي الناس بدنجان
tm788 1 year ago
انت روبى
بفنها وجمالها وشجعتها
ممكن كليب تجيب فيه أختك وتظهر لنا شجاعتها وشجاعتك
وتعمل نفس ما عملت تقلع وتلبس البدله وتفرج الشعب
وياريت الميعاد علشان الشعب يستنى بالكاميرات
حشرة مرمطط اسم مصر
amrsabet 2 years ago 3
ومين قال ان الاخوان ضد كل ده .. بل بالعكس الاخوان مع كل النماذج اللى ذكرت من المجتمع .. ماعدا روبى وعادل امام .
mnazily 2 years ago
فعلا نفس رؤية الاخوان ... انا بعشق مصر والاخوان
klooob 2 years ago
على فكرة اللى بتقوله هو نفس اللى بيقوله الإخوان
mynamenana 2 years ago 3
hi n_n
jonathansbm3 2 years ago
سؤال بريء
هو اللي خلي حضرتك تبقي متأكد انهم عاوزين يصبغوا المجتمع بلون الاخوان الاخضر يعني الالوان التانية حتموت
احب اقول ان دا من السذاجة لان مفيش حد يقدر يلغي حد في البلد دي حتي ولو ظهر عكس كدة
شكرا
sbinjr2002 2 years ago
ومن قال أن الإخوان يسعون لصبغ المجتمع بلون واحد ؟!!
ahmedsameeh78 2 years ago 2
1)
الفاتر اسوأ من البارد (الجاحظ):
في كل عائلة مسلمة فرد او اكثر عضو او متعاطف مع الاخوان المسلمين, انا شخصيا التحقت بهم لعامين هادئين ولست نادما على الفعاليات التي قمت بها معهم وليس عندي كره لأي ممن عملت معهم
لكن الاخوان تنظيم هرمي قد تمضي عمرك في طبقة او اكثر منه , دون
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
2)
ان تعرف من في الطبقة الاعلى وما هي اهدافهم؟
هذا الهرم ليس له علاقة بالتراتبية التنظيمية (السرية والعلنية) التي نراها في الحياة العامة والتي تنتهي بالمرشد العام , فالمرشد العام ذو صلاحيات اقل بكثير من الاعضاء في التنظيم العالمي في هذا القطر او ذاك ودوره تنفيذي اكثر منه
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
3)
ارشادي كما يشير لقبه
مركز التنظيم العالمي (لندن وجنيف) ويتستر خلف مؤسسات مالية ومراكز بحوث ومشاريع خيرية وهو مرتبط تاريخيا (كشريك) مع منظمات مشابهة لها نفوذ في السياسات العالمية كنادي روما ومعهد اسبن وجمعية حماية الحياة البرية والبنك الدولي ومعهد الرقابة الدولية وغيرها
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
4)
من واجهاتهم في لندن "المؤسسة الاسلامية" التي اسسها خورشيد احمد وزير الاقتصاد في حكومة ضياء الحق"باكستان" بالتعاون مع سالم عزام "مصر" والذي انبثق عنها ا"المعهد الاسلامي للتقنية الدفاعية" بالتعاون مع "حلف النيتو", , والفيدرالية الدولية للدراسات التي اسسها معروف الدواليبي
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
5)
"سوريا" مع نادي روما "الكسندر كنج: بريطانيا" و"اريلو بيشي التايكون الصناعي الايطالي"
سالم عزام هو ابن عبدالرحمن عزام الامين العام الأول لجامعة الدول العربية التي انشأتها بريطانيا وعم ايمن الظواهري "المطلوب للعدالة على مدار الثلاثين سنة الماضية لاكثر من دولة" والمتنقل
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
6)
بحرية بين هذه الدول وحتى الآن
فالجماعات المنشقة عن الاخوان وبعض الجماعات المتعارضة معهم وتنظيمهم المحلي هي واجهات للتنظيم العالمي للاخوان وهذا يسهل عليهم توسيع قاعدتهم التنظيمية باحتكار غالبية الناس الذين لهم ميل للتدين (الثوري والاصلاحي والتوفيقي والانقلابي ..الخ)
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
7)
اثناء الحرب الباردة استخدم الاخوان ابناء المسلمين كوقود لمعارك المعسكر الرأسمالي "حليفهم" ليس في افغانستان فقط بل على امتداد الخط الفاصل بين اوروبا الشرقية والغربية والخطوط المتحركة للمواجهة (المشاريع الاستخبارية) , بعد الحرب الباردة ما زال غالبية المسلمين يفكرون
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
8)
بعقليتها وهنا المأساة
روسيا استوعبت الخسارة وعادت كقوة اقليمية وكذلك فعلت الصين والهند , العالم الاسلامي لم يقم بأي مراجعة تذكر , لا بل تحركت الانظمة التقليدية المهترئة اسرع من شعوبها ومفكريها ومثقفيها (ومرد ذلك ان الخطاب الاسلامي الذي بدأ يكتسب مدا شعبيا كان سطحيا
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
9)
وافقيا وعاطفيا بلا عمق فكري او ثقافي او ابداعي , تلقيني وتنظيمي على العموم , فكر فقط بشعار "الاسلام هو الحل" وحاول ان تجد له معنى او مضمون او بناء اجتماعي او مؤسسي , ستخرج صفر اليدين , تجتر فتاوي وترغيب وترهيب وسفسطة كلام) ولكن الانظمة على الاقل فعلت مجلس التعاون الخليجي
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
10)
وانشأت الاتحاد المغاربي والاتحاد العربي (مصر,العراق, اليمن, الاردن, عمان) فلا مكان في العالم الجديد للصغار فحتى اوروبا انشأت وحدة وكذلك دول امريكا اللاتينية
العالم الاسلامي والعربي بالذات كان الاضعف والمرشح الاقوى للخروج من لعبة (القوي والضعيف) الازلية
اهداف الغرب
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
11)
واضحة : الهيمنة على الموارد الطبيعية والتمتع بها وتقليل عدد المستهلكين "الآخرين" لها
خطورة الاخوان المسلمين تكمن في تشكيل ثقافة غير مؤمنة بالدستور والقانون المدني على الرغم من استخدامها لهذا الدستور والقانون للوصول او المشاركة بالسلطة , فهم يترشحون ويستثمرون ويتحالفون
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
12)
ويتظاهرون ويترافعون في القضايا العامة ولكنهم يسعون للانقلاب على الحكم والاستفراد به , بزعزعة النظام (اغتيال السادات ومحاولة اغتيال مبارك) وعند تعرض النظام لضغط خارجي يسعون الى اضعافه من الداخل باعادة ترتيب الاولويات وتحريك الشارع , وعن زوال الخطر يحتون الخسارة ويتكيفون
aljazzerawatch13 2 years ago
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم إنت ليه فاهم الإخوان غلط بالرغم أن هم هدفهم الاصلاح وتقدم البلد يعني تطبيق شرع الله ومحدش فيهم قال ان هدفهم جعل مصر كلها اخوان .أحنا مصلحتنا ان احنا نساعد بعض مش ننقد ونهاجم بعض. والاخوان مش هيفرق معاهم اللي هيحقق هدفهم
تقبل تعليقي
a7lamohandes 2 years ago
وكمان مش معني انك تكون مش اخوان انك تكون عدو للاخوان لمجرد انك مختلف بل ده ادعي انك تشتغل معاهم في جهودهم اللي بيبذلوها علشان الاصلاح ده لو انت فعلا زي مابتقول في الفيديو .......مصري
readyraian 2 years ago
برضو وقعت في نفس الخطأ اللي وقع فيه كتير من غير ما يقصدوا واكتر متعمدين وهو ان الاخوان عايزين كل مصر اخوان والحقيقة_اللي بتأكدها تصرفات الاخوان وتصريحاتهم_انهم عايزين مرجعية مصر تبقي اسلامية وده لا يعني _لو كنت فاهم_انك تبقي من الاخوان
readyraian 2 years ago
فكرة الفيديو ممتازة
بس المحتوى كلام غير مقبول
فالاختلاف سنة الحياة
الاخوان اصحاب فكر واضح
ليس كل المصريين اخوان
بس مصر فيها اخوان كثير
ويوافقهم في الراي الكثير
ويخالفهم البعض
والاهم اغلب المصريين
لااخوان ولايعاضون الاخوان
asd1525 2 years ago
أحلى حاجة إن كل حاجة ملهاش علاقة ببعض و لا ليها علاقة بالموضوع أصلا
omsalem87 2 years ago
المفروض تقول انا مش عبيط
انا مش اهبل
biso012 2 years ago
انا مش أخوان...ومش عايز اخوان فى مصر
Kahouna77 2 years ago
انا مش اخوان ماشى
لكن مش عايز اخوان فى مصر
يعنى انت دكتاتور مش بتقبل الرأى الاخر
يعنى شكلك واحد من بتوع الحكومه
loveforever445 2 years ago
تحيه كبيرة للصاحب الفديوا
فكرة جميله وتفكير ممتاز
انت فعلا مصرى....وياريت ماتخدش بالاخوان البيهجموك
Kahouna77 2 years ago
يلا ياد يا اهبل جايب شويه عاهرات ومنافقين
انت حاجة من الاتنين يا مسيحى يا مش مصرى
00966506657815 3 years ago
يارجل هو يامسيحى يامصرى؟
طيب ولو طلع مصرى مسيحى يحصل ايه؟
مش كفايه بقى وش التعصب القذر ال انتم فيه دة؟
بقتوا حاجه تقرف والناس بره بتف على امثالكم؛امثال الغباء والتخلف والحقد....
Kahouna77 2 years ago
لايجوز وضع مقاطع بها صور نساء وموسيقى هداكم الله
hllllm 3 years ago
هههههههههههههههههههههههه
حلوه انا روبى بشجاعتها ليه كانت بتحارب
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jordansk1 3 years ago
very nice clip.
I'm not ikhawan, but i agree with their ideology.
I'm with all what you said and if the ikhwan are against the freedom, then i would not be for them.
yashaka 3 years ago
Ikhwan are the best people in the world.
xeroxhpcanon 3 years ago
why?
ralfzmina 3 years ago
الاعتراض بخصوص روبي وشجاعتها واي نوع من انواع الشجاعة بالظبط بصراحة لاتمثل البنت المصرية مطلقا
Almuhandsa 3 years ago
إلى كل وطني عاقل ومثقف:ان الأخوان يتخذون من سوء أحوال البلد ذريعة للشكوى عليها،أي أنه حق أُريد به باطل..ولو سمحتوا اقروا التاريخ، وصدق من قال:أيها الدين ما أكثر الجرائم التي تُرتكب باسمك
LEEHKEDA 4 years ago
شكرا ليك يا احمد على الفيديو الجميل ده لكن مش معناه انى مع كل الاراء عندى اعتراض لكن بكل ادب وبكل احترام وبكل تواصل ووحدة
mmmoawad 4 years ago
beautiful message ya ahmed
nm353130 4 years ago
عشرة على عشرة
egipcioo 4 years ago
Bravo
mmonirmo 4 years ago
What is so bad about Ikhwan? They are the only reasonable and viable alternative to Masr's current dictatorship. God Bless Hassan Al-Banna.
Sultan1923 4 years ago
watch the video again, may be u gonna understand. I hope from all my heart u join ur beloved Hassan Al-Banna where he is right now ... of course after long long long life for you.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Wait, so are you saying this video is promoting Ikhwan or criticizing it? Because that's what I'm getting from your reply to me.
Salam
Sultan1923 3 years ago
I didn't expect u to understand my comment! This is based on the fact that ur question "whats wrong with Ikhwan?" shows that u didnt understand the video either.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Oh I understand the video, it seems you don't understand it, judging by your comment: "hope from all my heart u join ur beloved Hassan Al-Banna where he is right now ...", or perhaps you were trying to insult me?
This video, and its creator, are not pro-Ikhwan, and I'd say, judging from his comments, that he's anti-ikhwan. Therefore I stated my response. You got a problem with that? Or is that another thing you don't understand?
Sultan1923 3 years ago
1st: I have no problem with ur response, thats why I wished u would join ur beloved Hassan El-Banna.
2nd: If u understand the video u wouldn't ask a question like "what is so bad about Ikhwan?" because the whole point of this video is to answer ur question. When u come after the video and ask this question again that means u still at square one. May be u r not a visual learner, I will give u a hint: IKHWAN ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE THEY DON"T REPRESENT THE EGYPTIAN DIVERSE SOCIETY
ralfzmina 3 years ago
This video doesn't address any real constructive criticism of Ikhwan, just the regurgitated paranoia of secular Egyptins I've seen. That's why I asked "what is so bad about Ikhwan". The video doesn't really answer the question at all. I'm asking the person himself, and those who believe the same way he does, to actually answer the question instead of dodging it. Ikhwan, and Islam for that matter, represents diverse society. And if the people want Ikhwan, you are nobody to tell them no. Got it?
Sultan1923 3 years ago
It is not a paranoia, it is a fact. Look at any Religion based society Iran, Saudia Arabia and Taliban are good examples. For everything there is a code; including but not limited to dress code. Women are opressed to dress in a certain way and if didn't comply they face consequences. I don't want to live in a coded country where other decide for me what to eat or dress or when or how to go to cafes or beachs. Religion based rulers resonate God judgements and arguing isn't allowed. Thanks
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Ur talking about different places with different ideologies. Islam and its schools aren't monolithic. Ikhwan aren't puritans like Wahhabis that dominate Taliban and Saudi ideology. In fact Hamas, which dominates Gaza right now, governs by Sharia but does not allow Wahhabist ideology to hinder their people's freedoms. And if u know anything, Hamas is an offshoot of Ikhwan. Ur using the same paranoia that secularists commonly apply to "warn" people against the "taliban-like" ikhwan. It's nonsense.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Basicly, I don't want a government that judges me as a believer or non-believer vs good and bad citizen. Although I and u disagree, I am sure there is no hard feelings. We are exercising an important civil right; FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Something that is void in religion based idiology, which btw are the same anywhere and in any culture and any religion. Think about about it, denial won't help, history sides with me. I am gonna address some points in ur comment later, I am busy with Finals.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
You say that as if a "non-believer" automatically qualifies u as a "bad citizen". You seem to have very huge misconceptions about Ikhwan and their ideology, and again generalizing all religious movements into one monolithic entity only serves to further weaken your argument. Your shallow reference to the Taliban is a perfect example. And history sides with those who actually know it, so don't pretend like you have some high ground here when you haven't proven any thing.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Dude listen, I didn't say non-believer qualifies as bad citizen, read again. I said judges me according to religion (believer or nonbeliever) not according to my citizenship (good citizen or bad citizen). And I didn't say Taliban is perfect example, I said they just a good example of religion based regime. I didn't say all religion based regimes have monolithic entity, I said they don't allow freedom of speech. Read carefully, don't make a joke of urself then accuse others of being shallow.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Well you make that analogy. You're citizenship is what you're judged upon, in a religious state or otherwise. You are judging the Ikhwan based on an illusion that they are exactly like the Taliban which illustrates your hideous ignorance of Islamic movements and their various beliefs throughout the world. You don't seem to understand the difference between moderate and radical, which is a shame coming from an Egyptian. I'd expect that from a westerner.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Tell me about Ikwan ideology!! "Islam is the solution" what kind of political campaign is this. What about those who don't this to be their solution. Speaking of Hamass, they ignited civil war. How about Hezb-Allah who dragged Lebanon to war without evening considering the consequences on their own country, they didn't care, tozz fi Lebnan, Does this sound familiar? oh wait I recall El-Morshed El-3am of Ikwan said tozzz fi Masr before. Thats what I meant by history , learn form past experiences.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
You say the Taliban is a perfect example of Ikhwani ideology, and then you say you don't believe all religious regimes are monolithic. If you want to lie, then do so in a more subtle fashion. What's wrong with "Islam is the solution"? They believe it is the correct path to govern the Muslim masses. And Islam is an inherent part of Arab, and other countries' culture, and political history for the last thousand or so years.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Again I didn't say they are perfect example, read my fourth post to u and don't make a fool of urself. My exact words were "It is not a paranoia, it is a fact. Look at any Religion based society Iran, Saudia Arabia and Taliban are good examples." Islam isn't a solution for every body, thats whats wrong with "Islam is the solution" ideology. And thats what the video is about, it is simple, u think it is for u, go for it. Just don't out cast me and call me ignorant cause I disagree.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Okay sorry for saying the word "perfect", even though for the sake of argument, you're words weren't much different. And Islam is a solution for everybody. Even Copts vote for the Ikhwan because they're sick of the current regime. You say the slogan is not for everybody without fact. I criticize you for this factless ignorance, and not your opinions. If you have an opinion, you are expected to support with substance, not rhetoric. Unfortunately, you've yet to do so.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
With that in mind, it's no wonder why people from Algeria, to Lebanon, to Egypt, to Palestine, voted for and support Islamic movements en masse. In Palestine, Hamas was democratically elected. And Fatah, angered by their loss of power, attacked Hamas. They were the ones who instigated a civil war. And Hamas took Gaza as a result, even despite Fatah being armed by the US and Israel.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
"people from Algeria, to Lebanon, to Egypt, to Palestine, voted for and support Islamic movements en masse" and others have voted against in masses. Thats politics, disagreement creates diversity. In islamic regimes disagreement creates "تطبيق الحد" lol I personally don't want that, I am free to choose who represents me, whats ur problem. Is this consistant and intelligent enough for ur big head lol
ralfzmina 3 years ago
And can you please name me which ones were "voted against in masses"? And I mean in countries that aren't dictatorships that rig elections. There are few regimes even calling themselves "Islamic State", so to say "In islamic regimes disagreement creates تطبيق الحد" highlights your own lack of knowledge, yet again. Again, don't expect your rhetoric to go without criticism (something you value so much) while you continue to do this. It appears you have a problem with criticism. lol, grow up.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Hezbollah had been kidnapping dozens of Israeli soldiers before 2006, since Israel still control areas of southern Lebanon. The Israelis just chose that one incident when Hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers as a pretext for war. It was methodical, and calculated, and it brought devastation to Lebanon. Not Hezbollah's fault. And this issue is irrelevant to our discussion, which is your blind and misconceived ignorance of Ikhwan and "Islamism" in general, which you fail to distinguish its variations
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Thats great and Hezbollah is doing a great job. They are so smart, kidnapped a soldier and unleashed the military might of Israel. That says a lot about Hezbollah wise and efficient tactics. Thats why I dont want rag heads representing me. or someone like Mahdy 3akef who once said TOZZZZ fi Masr. Imagine a US presentational candidate said tozz fi USA, would he even be considered for the race!! Mahdy 3akef said Tozz fi Masr, thats enough for me, and I am free to choose: NO IKHWAN. wats ur problem
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Hezbollah were having numerous skirmishes with Israel and kidnappings happened before 2006. This was nothing new to Israel, which just so happened to use those certain kidnappings as an excuse to devastate all of Lebanon. The factu don't know this makes me doubt ur knowledge further. But what makes me doubt your objectivity is your racist comment: "Thats I don't want rag heads representing you" lol, thank you for showing me ur true colors. And please, do prove Mahdi Akef said "tozzz fi masr"
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Have u forgotten the days when Ikhwan carried arms and went around bombing cafes in Egypt, is that the kind of ideology they deal with political opponents?!! Thats their true face, again learn from history because it sides with me. Tell me how Shities and Sunnies deal with each others in Iraq?!! Again I am not generalizing but thats how those who rule by religion deal with others, they only know 2 categories Believer or Nonbeleiver.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Bombing which cafe? There was widespread riots in Egypt after the 1948 war loss, which further fueled hate for the Monarchy. Ikhwan was no more responsible for the events than any other group in the country. Hassan Al-Banna had little control over the Secret Apparatus after the 1948 war, and repeatedly condemned their independent actions which fell out of line with Ikhwan and their creed. Ur speaking of events that happened 60 years and attempting to pass it off as a "victory". Sorry, try better
Sultan1923 3 years ago
what 1940's r u talking about .. I am talking about the 1990's, when they bombed cafes in Downtown Cairo and slaughtered tourists in Old Cairo and Luxor .. Have u forgotten about Luxor or u trying to ignore the dirty history!!
ralfzmina 3 years ago
ahahahahahaha Thank you for showing me you can't tell the difference between Gamaat Islamiya or Islamic Jihad, from Ikhwan. If I've "forgotten" history, then you're certainly fabricating it. Thank you for humiliating yourself. I suggest you stop before you make it worse. :)
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Sunnis and Shia in Iraq have never had problems until Saddam Hussein's dictatorship antagonized the Shia. And he was a SECULAR ruler. The Americans and their occupation have furthered the rift in the country, and even MI5/MI6 have apoligized for conspiring to bomb a Basra mosque in 2005. This is already documented info. And Iraq is not a religious government right. This is another irrelevant brought up by you.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
it is not irrelevant, u just need to dust ur mind. There always a reason, the agression between sunnis and shiies is because saddam and the agression of muslisms against west is because of the crusades and the list of reasons is extending blah blah. However, it is ur choice to use the list or ask urself what is the real reason. where all this hatred came from? I am not waiting an answer from u and don't bother to send me any more posts. My mind is set and urs is set too.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Now I hope your next series of comments are consistent and intelligent. It's meaningless to discuss ideological issues with ignorants who believe every Islamist is like the Taliban.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
oh man I will try not to be ignorant and I have faith in ur patience haha ... but I'd rather to speak my mind and Ikhwan are not for me ... u enjoy every bit of ur support cause this forbidden group of radicals won't rule ... I read recently that Leaders of Ikhwan were fished out and jailed, not cool not cool haha
ralfzmina 3 years ago
You hav your right to not like Ikhwan, and no one's stopping you. But no that if you're going to flaunt your reasons to someone, you should expect a response. And judging from your last comment about the 1990's terrorist attacks in Egypt, your arguments are no longer credible. Not cool not cool hahaha
Sultan1923 3 years ago
I paused for a second to look for a valid point to response to, I couldnt find any. All what u doing is negating me and calling me ignorant and lier. I got no answer for that. u r repeating urself and if I have to answer I would repeat myself too. u r a broken record. All facts against u are rigged and fabricated. Moreover, u went too far when u calimed that Copts support Ikhwan lol r u out of ur mind! Don't speak for Copts. u don't know that Mahdy Akef said toz fi Masr! This is fabricated too?
ralfzmina 3 years ago
The only in denial's u, and as a result, ignorant and lier are fair descriptions of u. U don't have clear understanding of Islamist movements and r in no position to discuss Ikhwan. Now ur dodging the issue in an attempt to belittle me. Predictable. I will remind u of ur failure to prove anything should u continue to respond. Period. And u want my proof Copts supported Ikhwan? Just watch "A nation in waiting" program from aljazeeraenglish. And u still haven't proved Mahdi Akef said toz fi masr.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Still nothing to answer to but nonsense, more insults and attitude. It is true that one shouldn't argue with someone who read only 1 book cause he thinks that the knowledge of the whole world is in that book. And whoever was in that Aljazeera program most definitely don't represent Copts. If Copts object that Shari3a be a source of the constitution, how on earth would they support Ikhwan. I wouldn't jump to conclusion that u r ignorant and don't have clear understanding of blah blah, like u did.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Simply responding to your initial barrage of nonsense, insults, and attitude. I guess you don't appreciate the Golden Rule :) And when did I ever tell you I read only 1 book? You're just making up stuff now. Aljazeera is a credible source, and it's obvious you didn't check the programme I recommended. Therefore you have the answer to your own inconsistent question. Bye bye :)
Sultan1923 3 years ago
google مهدي عاكف طظ في مصر he said it in an interview with روزاليوسف Obviously u didnt understand my metaphor about the book, expected. I didn't insult u, I only disagreed with u, but u people (Ikhwan) consider disagreement as an insult. About that program, there is no political representative for copts so the idea that copts support a political party is silly, I don't need to watch the program to judge. And what inconsistency has to do with this, the word u r looking for is judging blindly. bye
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Nothing but forums, no news site, nothing. No credible source. So out the window with your accusation. And I understood your metaphor. Keep your cheap insults out of the fray, they serve no purpose now that you've humiliated yourself. I consider anyone who bases his opinion on rhetoric instead of fact an ignorant, such as you. Had you presented yourself in a better, more informed way, things would turn out differently. And I never said most Copts support Ikhwan, nor are they representing them.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
Metaphor isn't a cheap insult. And if u understood my metaphor u wouldn't have said "And when did I ever tell you I read only 1 book?" Dude respect ur audience. u r insulting my intelligence. u said Copts support Ikhwan that means Copts as a whole. again respect ur audience.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
I understood it, and it was cheap because I never even mentioned books, therefore you could've come up with a better one. I gladly insult someone's intelligence when they have none. I said Copts support Ikhwan, not all Copts. But there are Copts that do. Again, learn to read.
Sultan1923 3 years ago
when u say Americans support the war, that means all Americans support the war not some of them. And u r talking about intelligence, u r really not worth talking to. Shut up u make me sick. Shut up. I am done with u
ralfzmina 3 years ago
Of course you need to watch the programme to judge it. hahaha, and you're telling me how to choose my wording? Please.
You're done. Bye
Sultan1923 3 years ago
yeah cause u keep saying big words u don't know what they mean. like calling a metaphor a cheap insult. And no I don't need to watch the program. cause Coptic Church doesn't interfere in politics. And Coptic politicians don't represent the Coptic Church, this is a well known fact. And if all u found is forums u need to dig deeper. There is no smoke without fire.
P.S. This is a metaphor not an insult.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
lol, man you take phrases at face value too much. You truly do not understand reading comprehension, let alone the ability to insult. I actually feel sorry for you. I never said anything about the Coptic church establishment, I'm saying Coptic people, some of which support Ikhwan. I did dig deeper, and so far nothing substantial, nothing credible.
PS: You're obsession with having the last word is getting tedious :)
Sultan1923 3 years ago
I meet people in the west who endured the religious regimes to which they were former supporters and they regret the day it became true. ehhh u wanna learn the hard way. I am done here.
ralfzmina 3 years ago
very nice video..& i agree with evrything in it...besides that i think that masr(egypt) is better without ikhwan,& that's 2 protect all the egypians not just a group of ppl even though they r the majority ....(not an egypian,but love egypt)..thanks 4 the video,goooood jobb ...peace..salam
huda111 4 years ago
wllahy enta ragelmo7taram we ma3ak 7a2 te3ref kol mashakelna hatet7al law kol wa7ed ye7terem el a7'er we mayedta7'alsh fee 7ayato
jozz1234567 4 years ago
الاستاذ elmiry
الاخوان هيصلحوا البنية اللي تحتيك انت
مش اي بنية تاني
انت و كل الهبل اللي زيك
جتكوا الارف مليتو البلد
chadmina1 4 years ago
ال ال ال فيه ايه هو فيه جماعة الأخوان المسيحيين ولا ايه
جتك القرف عليك وعلي اللي زيك من الأعباط...مليتو البلد ...
كتر خيرها...ومش عاجبكم كمان
sbinjr2002 1 year ago
عارف انت ايه كمان ولا اؤلك ربنا يهديك ويهدينا
adamsson7000 4 years ago
غيرها (اللي ممكن ناس كتير ما تتفقش معاهم فيه) على غيرهم الاخوان علامة التقسيم والفتنة في المجتمع من يوم ظهورهم كفكر مش بس كتنظيم... احنا أولا بني أدمين وبعدها ممكن نبقى مصريين أو غيره أما حكاية مسلمين دي فأمر ربنا أمر بيه كشىء شخصي
amrakosh 4 years ago
غيرها (اللي ممكن ناس كتير ما تتفقش معاهم فيه) على غيرهم الاخوان علامة التقسيم والفتنة في المجتمع من يوم ظهورهم كفكر مش بس كتنظيم... احنا أولا بني أدمين وبعدها ممكن نبقى مصريين أو غيره أما حكاية مسلمين دي فأمر ربنا أمر بيه كشىء شخصي
amrakosh 4 years ago
الموضوع مالوش دعوة بأشخاص الأخوان والكويس فيهم أو الوحش.. هم زي أي فئة في البلد والعالم فيهم الاتنين بس مشكلتهم كلهك أنهم بيبتدوا الصباح بتقسيم البشر والأشياء لمين وراهم وورا القرآن ومين مش كده ولأنهم عايزين يفرضوا قيمهم الأخلاقية (وبيقولوا عليها القيم الالهية) أو
amrakosh 4 years ago
يعنى لامؤاخزة هيضحكوا على مين لما يقولوا قال الله وقال الرسول ويدعوا واحد زى حضرتك وزيى من المتعلمين الى العودة الى الدين انا يعنى مش هعرف اقرا وافرق بين اوامر ربنا و بين الاعراف والنظم والاخلاقيات اللى بتتنافى معاها
elmiary 4 years ago
الموضوع مالوش علاقة بأشخاص الاخوان والكويس فيهم أو الوحش.. هم زي أي فئة في العالم فيها الاتنين بس مشكلة الاخوان أنهم بيبتدوا الصباح بتقسيم العالم مين وراهم وورا القرآن ومين لأ وأنهم بيفرضوا قيمهم الأخلاقية أو
amrakosh 4 years ago
Very nice!
heshtekbeshtek 4 years ago
BEAUTIFUL
luxcretia2 4 years ago
انا عاوز اسئل سؤال شجاعه آيه الي في روبي
هو كل بنت تلبس من غير هدوم تبئه شجاعه
amrgalal80 4 years ago
الجماعة حسب - ما ارى وان كانت كدة فعلاً -جماعة اسلامية تنموية اجتماعية ثقافية نهضوية سياسية ذات مرجعية اسلامية وليست متطرفة ...اللى قتلوا السادات مش من الاخوان دى جماعة الجهاد الاسلامية اللى مختلفة مع الاخوان على طول الخط
elmiary 4 years ago
we bantahez dee forsa 3ashan a2olak kol sana wenta tayeb be monasbet shar ramadan we kol el muslimeen kaman.
stankoveck 4 years ago
وانت طيب وكل المسلمين طيبين ان شاء الله مبدئياً انا مش من الاخوان ، لكن ده ما يمنعش انى ادلى برأيى او ادافع عنهم ومش انا اللى ادافع عنهم لكن انا مش عايز الخلط بين جماعة الاخوان وجماعات التكفير وجماعة الجهاد
elmiary 4 years ago
مسألتش نفسك ليه الشعبية الكبيرة للأخوان دى؟ ازاى تكون جماعة متطرفة وفيها وجدى غنيم وامثاله من الافاضل؟هل كانت الجماعة مسلحة بعد الاحتلال الانجليزى؟
elmiary 4 years ago
we 3alafekra ana ma3rafsh law enta wa7ed menhom walaken ana lama hagemtohom ana kont a2sod el fekr nafso wel gena7 el mota3aseb ely beyad3o lil fawda. Ana 2areet el profile beta3ak we fee kalam mo7taram we gameel yanom 3an sha7'siya gameela. 3amatan ya a7'oya law 7'at el kalam ely 2olto 2ehana leek ana ba3tezerlak wa laken ana mo2men belly ba2olo we shokran.
stankoveck 4 years ago
ان شاء الله مفيش اهانة ولا حاجة يا تقنعنى يا اقنعك نختلف و لا نتخاصم نقترب ولا نبتعد
elmiary 4 years ago
kattar 7'ero hosni mubarak ragel tayeb sabhom ya7'do 88 korsy. Ana law makan hosni kont sagant kol wa7ed feehom beyad3o lil irhab,wel takfeer wel el fetan el ta2ifiya. Enta mesh hatefham asdy we 3aref radak eih mosaba2an laken rabina yostor men fekrohom el haddam el mota7'alef.
stankoveck 4 years ago
لو فكرهم متعصب متشدد متطرف، ولما يقولوا القرآن دستورنا،ولما يدعوا ان مرجعيتهم دينية وما تكونش فعلاً كدة وايضاً لما يؤججوا الفتن الطائفية يبقوا فعلاً افكارهم هدامة ، مضلة ، ارهابية
elmiary 4 years ago
اسف لما يقولوا القرآن دستورنا ومايعملوش بيه يعنى
elmiary 4 years ago
لما تبقى الاقاويل والشعارات مقترنة بالعمل ازاى فكرهم يبقى متخلف وهدام
elmiary 4 years ago
اذكر نفسى واياك ...فيه اصلاح افضل من العودة للتدين والدين ...ده حسب ظنى اللى بيدعوا الاخوان اليه...اصلاح البنية التحتية البشرية...العلمانيين واعداء الدين -الكتييييير قوى مش عايزين كدة
elmiary 4 years ago
؟ انت ادرى بالحزب اكيد ان كان علمانى ولا لأ
elmiary 4 years ago
We fel nehaya homa ely 3amalo tanzeem el qa3da el besababo 7'alo kelab zay bush yemseko america we yeda7'alo el muslimeen fee 7orob homa mesh adaha. Ana a3raf el e7'wan aktar mennak we shoftohom we shoft tafkerhom el rag3y el irhaby.
stankoveck 4 years ago
لا مش هم ده تنظيم الجهاد
elmiary 4 years ago
ازاى مثلاً تبقى عارفهم اكتر منى وانت حسب كلامك عايش فى كندا؟...ماشى ايه الرجعية والارهاب اللى شوفتوهم مثلاً ؟
elmiary 4 years ago
Ana msh Ikhwan ana msh Ikhwan w ah ruby 7orra w bet3abar 3an 7oreyetha belra2s w el ra2s da mn arka el fonoon weli y2ool gher kda mabyfhamsh , w leli by2ool en el 7ezb el watany howa sabab el e5tlaf wel tanawo3 eli f masr a2ollo la2 sorry el 7ezm el watany mwady masr f 60 dahya , ana msh ba7eb el ekhwan w bakrah el 7ezb el watany , homma el etnen anyal mn ba3d.
sadatlover 4 years ago
Maho ya sadat law el 7ezb el watany makansh massek kan el e7'wan homa ely mesko we a7alo dammak 3ala el kalam ely enta bet2olo walla ruby we 7'alaso 3aleek. 3ala fekra ana ma3a kol ely 2olto laken ba7'talef ma3ak 3an ro2yetak lil 7ezb el watany. El 7ezb el watany sama7 bi 7oriya makanitsh mawgooda ayam nasser wel sadat allah yer7amhom
stankoveck 4 years ago
واخد عن الاخوان فكرة وحشة انت
elmiary 4 years ago
walla we7sha walla 7aga. El e7'wan atalo el sadat, atalo 97 saye7 fee aswan, 7ara2o kanayess e7'wana el mes7iyeen, eda7'alo fee fetan ta2efeya, beyo7goro el deen 3ala nafsohom, we kol el 3amaliyat el erhabiya fee masr ya homa 3amaloha aw nass et3alemo fekrohom we 3amaloha.
stankoveck 4 years ago
Mogtama3 masr feeh el e7'telaf da 3ahsan el hezb el watany. Law el e7'wan mesko makanoosh hay7'alo el banat ely bet2ool hi. Walla kano hayedba7o ruby we kano ha ye7ra2o masr. 3ashan keda ya masriyeen adaro hosni mubarak da ragel 3azeem we kefaya eno sama7lokom be 7oriya 3omrokom konto hatla2oha
stankoveck 4 years ago
begad low masr feha keter zayak kona ba2ena a7san....ana wa7ed zah2an men elaraf ele fe masr we a3ed fe america
lolitazenger 4 years ago
leh bas ya 3am ana 3esh t fee canada we shoft arab el denya feeha. Masr mfeesh a7san menha ba sha3b masr ys e7na mesh 3arfeen emitha. Wel e7'wan dol shewayet s rakash malhomsh soot.
stankoveck 4 years ago
ًone word : WOW !
هو دا الكلام ولا بلاش..أحلى حاجة شفتها والهى..أحسن من الهبل و التعصب..لا أخوان ولا غيره..كلنا فى الأول و الآخر مـصـريـيـن و بنحب البلد دى
ayooooz 4 years ago
WOW WOW , bgad WOW , ana msh Ikhwan ana msh Ikhwan , Ana masry w bas.
sadatlover 4 years ago
7aga 3ageeba eno el wosool lel 7okm ka'ano moseeba aw 3amal ghalat,tab we feeha eh .ana 3awez awsal lel 7okm howa da 3eib ommal elly fel 7okm 3amleen 7aga ghalat ,3eib ya3nee wala 7aram eno ab'a 3awez awsal lel 7okm!!!( tab3an ana shakhseyan mesh 3awez wala 7okm wala neela enama efred gadalan ya3nee ab'a kafart ...eh el demagh dee .we tab3an ana la ekhwan wala 7aga bas el fekra dee meghalebany...kol shwaya ye'olak folan 3ando ATMA3 fel 7okm...7ad yefasarly leeh atma3 leh mosh tomoo7 masalan...
goonygoogoo2 4 years ago
اطماع لو الكلام على الاخوان ،طموح لغيرهم هههههههه
elmiary 4 years ago
انت ما شاء الله عليك فنان فنان ، يا سلااام لما تتشهر وتتعرف ...انت عارف طبعاً ...ما وراء الشمس ههههههههه
elmiary 4 years ago
Very nice video Ahmed, Egypt wud be a lot better if more people believe in that and just look at each other as HUMANS not christians or muslims or african or dark or ligh ...
batates85 4 years ago
روبى؟؟؟
تفتكر ربنا حيكرمنا وفينا راجل بيقول أنا روبى.
إبقى قابلنى
eltayeb67 4 years ago
Very good Idea
IBNMISR 4 years ago
فكرة القيديو حلوة جدا
لكن أستفسار بسيط
هوا اللي بتعمله المدعوة روبي ده اسمه فن
واي شجاعة اللي بيتتكلم عنها
شجاعة هز الوسط والمؤخرة
attiea85 4 years ago
لالا يا عم مش كدة خالص باعتبار روبى شكلها مصرى يعنى وبتؤمن ان الرقص تعبير عن النفس من خلال الهز لأن العضو المتحرك يقوى وان خير الأمور الوسط و احب اسمع اغنية ..... لا داعى عشان منقولش حاجة خارجة هههههههههههههههههههههههههههه
elmiary 4 years ago
حلوة قوي حكاية تؤمن ان الرقص تعبير عن النفس.....هاهاهاهاها.......شعب فكاهي.....أنا في رائي انها عار علي المصريين وهيا واللي زيها
itjustathought 4 years ago
صدقنى ده مش كلامى ده كلام احد المثقفين المهويين على ما اعتقد ، وتقريباً دى مسلَّمة ولا حاجة ...ربنا يهدى ويشفى هههههههه
elmiary 4 years ago
فيديو رائع يا أحمد
لعله أفضل أعمالك حتى الأن
وصلت الرسالة يا فنان
بس ما كانش فيه داعي تختمها ب"لون الإخوان"
:)
ajnadeen 4 years ago
عزيزي، إللي يحب الحرية لنفسه يحبها للأخرين. إذن
نعم، تهمني حرية روبي، و حرية السيدة المنقبة و حررية عبد المنعم في أعماله مع الإخوان:
إللي يحب الحرية لنفسه يحبها للأخرين
AhmadSherif 4 years ago
I m not pro-ikhwan yaahmed, but mn bab awlaa, as u r calling for freedom for urself, u call for thier right to present thier view and the people would choose, instead of considering that Ikhwan doesn't suit egypt. In islam, there isn't something called religous state.
Tarekonline 4 years ago
el e7'wan la mesko masr hate7'rab ya ged3an wallahi hatbooz we nob2a zay el 3era2. dol bekafaro el nass we hay asemo bena . Masr balad gameel we rabina ye7'aly hosni 7ameeha
stankoveck 4 years ago
tmam ya abo hamed
ahmedemamaly 4 years ago
اخى الحرية ليها حدود زى ما انتقد الشيخ ابو اسحاق شعار فيما معناه الحرية الحقيقية هى ترويج كل مذهب وابداء كل الآراء لجريدة القاهرة واشار لأفضل تعربف للفوضى افضل من كدة نسأل الله العافية
elmiary 4 years ago
جرى العرف اننا نقول على المنتقبة منقبة والمعنى مختلف ...زى المضلين اللى بيقولوا على الخمار خيمة ....ارجو التصحيح
elmiary 4 years ago
مش فاهم ازاي نساوي بين حرية المرأة ان تلبس النقاب وبين ما تسمي بحرية روبي أن تفسد أزواق الناس
itjustathought 4 years ago
El video gameel gedan ya a7mad laken ana 3ateb 3aleek 3ashan hogomak el sa7'er 3ala hosni mubarak. Da ragel momtaz wallahi we howa ely beye7my ely zayak men el e7'wan. lawel e7'wan mesko hasafo ely zayak .i hope you try to reduce your attack on hosni
stankoveck 4 years ago
لأ معلشى يعنى افهم من كلامك ده انك ضد الاخوان ؟
يعنى انتا روبى وانتا المنقبة طب ازاى؟
بتناقض نفسك اوى؟؟
ahmedemamaly 4 years ago
teb2a enta elli mosh fahem we ba3dein enta bada2t resaltak be la2 ma3leshi ya3ni afham men kalamak ennak ded el ekhwan? ka2en howa el wa7eed elli dedohom aghlabeyat masr dedohom. de gama3a ma7zoora we motashadedeen we 2alabo el deen seyasa we 3ayzeen dawla eslamia ya3ni ma3andehomsh ay wala2 lemasr wala2hom lel deen mosh lel watan
daloo3a 4 years ago
If islam was implemented, no one would ever suffer from discrimination nor injustice. If u read Medina Convenant, of prophet Muhamed to the christians and jews, u would find that it holds the real true meaning of Al Mwatna for everyone, regardless of his faith.
Tarekonline 4 years ago
we arent in the early days of islam get real he may have had a convenant with the jews n the christians but the muslims of today havent also the ppl that would suffer the most from an islamic state in egypt are the like of me el moslemeen el 3elmaniyeen n no 3elmany doesnt mean kafir it just means not very religious we would suffer the most from el ekhwan n their manifesto
daloo3a 4 years ago
If u "muslim", u would believe that ur creator, is the best one who knows you well, cause he is ur creator, and when he gave u a set of instructions to follow, it was the best way, for you to live. Moreover, many things in Islam sharia aren't fixed and simply develop with time and society conditions
Tarekonline 4 years ago
قصدك الولاء للديــــــن اكتر من الوطن ، عايزانى لامؤاخذة اسجد للوثن الوطنى وانا مسلم موحد بالله ، لاتعارض يا اختى اطلاقاً
elmiary 4 years ago
ana ma2oltesh esgod lel wathan el watani ya sazeg- ana 2olt nekoon masreyeen awlan we maykonsh eslamna passport yekoon eman mosh haweya
daloo3a 4 years ago
هو فيه ايه انتى شغالة على طول انت ساذج انت ساذج ، قوليلى اى رد موضوعى على اى حاجة مش بالنفى وخلاص اثبتيلى انهم مجرمين و انهم غير اصلاحيين ....العلمانية اكبر غزو فكرى ابتلاينا بيه وشكراً على زوقك
elmiary 4 years ago
el 3afow- meen elli 2atal el sadat? mosh homa- we mat2oleesh eno yestahel mafish 7ad yestahel yet2etel 2odam ahlo bel shakl dah e7na mosh rabena 3ashan ne7aseb el nas. morshed el ekhwan 2al toz fi masr we abo masr we elli fi masr- we lamma 2alolo el mase7iyeen 2alo hayemsho men el balad lamma ento te7komo 2al ma3 alf salama wana hashterelhom el tazaker benafsy. we kaman 2al 3adi lamma ye7komna wa7ed malizi el mohem yekoon moslem we maqar el khilpha yekoon el qahira
daloo3a 4 years ago
اولاً قتل السادات ما كانش خالص عن طريق الاخوان تانياً المرشد نف بعد كدة انه يكون قال الكلام ده وانه متلفقله فى جرنان مش فاكره و مجبش سيرة المسيحيين خالص وقتها
elmiary 4 years ago
as for el 3elmania - fa heya mosh kofr zay ma bey2ololkom fi masr heya fekr siasy mosh deeny- beyeb3ed el siasa 3an el deen laken el ekhwan beysayeso el deen we 3ayzeen masr teb2a zay el sa3odia we el setat telbes kheyam we ye2olo khemar we neqb zay ma labeso el setat el hijab - el dawla el deenia 3'alat madam fee aktar men deen fel balad leih teb2a el marge3ya deenia leih mateb2ash marge3ia ensania we nekhali el deenfel kinisa wel game3 bas leih el howas el deeni dah fi masr?
daloo3a 4 years ago
فكر بطـــاااااااااااااااااااااااال نشأ فى الغرب نتيجة سيطرة القساوسة على الحكم فى القرون الوسطى لدرجة انهم كانوا بيعملوا حاجة اسمها صكوك الغفران يدَّفعوا الناس فلوس وبقولولهم هدخلكو الجنة
elmiary 4 years ago
عليكى جداً كمسلمة موحدة بربها تقولى على الخمار خيمة،
elmiary 4 years ago
ana moslema we mowa7da laken mosh 3awra we ba7terem nafsi aktar men keda bekteer - 3omri ma ha3teber nafsi wala ay set mogarard gesm lazem yetghata law kan el khemar we el kheyam el metnaqaba dee heya el islam yeb2a 2ool 3la el islam el salam el islam delwa2ty fee masr ba2a mokhtasar fel hijab we khemar wel niqab mosh fel tasarofat. al 7amdulilah enni mosh fi masr
daloo3a 4 years ago
من غير جدل كتير ،انتى كبيرة وعارفة الصح من الغلط نصيحتى استفتى قلبك ، بطلى تقرى لنوال السعداوى وامثالها،حاولى تعرفيها كويس وهتعرفيها كويس ان شاء الله
elmiary 4 years ago
meen gaab seeret nawal el sa3dawy? we ba3dein nawal el sa3dawy mosh we7sha enama tab3an enta fe masr far7an bel mogtama3 el zokoory le2ano fi masla7tak. el mohem el dabate dah maloosh lazma l2en i dont live in egypt so these things dont directly affect me bas bardo baladi fa 2olt a2ool ra2ye
daloo3a 4 years ago
ههههههههه اوعى ترجى لمصر . هستناكى فى المطار واكعبلك واوقعك على بوزك. بس ياريت ماتبقيش لابسه ولا حجاب ولا جمار ولا نقاب. ياريت تبقى لابسه ستومك عشان لما تقعى اتفرج عليكى. مش انت هتفرحى كدا؟ وطبعا هتكونى جايه مع الديوس. عالعموم اهلا بيه فى وطنه
kamba4ever 4 years ago
leih 2elet el 2eema de- enta khaleit nafsak shaklak rekhees awy bel comment de. ana 2olt ra2ye we mosh talba el nas teqtene3 beeh-zay ma ana ba7terem elli labsa hijab wel beyeheb el ekhwan lazem homma kaman yehtermona-enta shaklak 2aleel el fekr we ma3andaksh 7aga te2olha fa 2olt teheen el nas
daloo3a 4 years ago
رخصت نفسى فين يا هلهوطه. انا ولا اخوان ولا يحزنون ومابحبش الاخوان, ومابحبش اللى زيك من مدعى الثقافه الفكريه. سؤال صغير على ادك. تعرفى مين مؤلف كتاب نعم ولا؟
kamba4ever 4 years ago
انا بس بسالك عشان حسستينى انك مثقفه. وبعدين يا مدعيه الثقافه انت اللى اتريقتى على الحجاب والنقاب والخمار وقولتى هو الاسلام بقى كدا؟ بقولك ايه اهربى بعيد انت لسه بنوته هئى
kamba4ever 4 years ago
ya3ni eih enti lessa banouta he2? we ya3ni eih halhota? mabet7ebesh elli zayi hmmm enta te3rafni menen 3ashan te7oteni fi bracket mo3ayan? ana mahentesh 7ad ana 2olt ra2yee bas.
daloo3a 4 years ago
لما تقولى رائيك وبس يبقى تسمعى رأى الاخرين وبس, لكن لما تدعى امتلاكك لفكر وثقافه معينه وهى مش موجوده , بكدا بتكونى بتعيشى اللحظه اون لاين. زى اى حد عادى بيعيش اللحظه اون لاين
kamba4ever 4 years ago