Ric, do you think all the high volume is what caused that joint pain?
Dorian only trained 4 times a week. He only got injuries because he didn't stop going too heavy and to beyond failure when he was precontest when his energy was down.
I enjoy your video's about the old days, and couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure some will have more joint issues than others, but generally if you have trained heavy you will experience joint pain. I've had both shoulders and one knee cut on and now experience some spinal issues as well. Great advice, hope it is heeded!
@magkandler1 Albert had two shoulder surgeries from injuries.. I see him every day and he trained heavy.. It caught up with him as he had major back surgery 5 months ago and almost died from staph infections,blood clots and numerous other problems. He's been in the gym this week visiting with a full back brace and cane, afraid to move and will most likely not train again. Too bad as he's such a nice guy
@ricdrasin Pls send the best wishes from the entire community. albert's episode has the most views on your show so I think I do speak on behalf of everyone here. He is the greatest!
Using lighter weights sounds sensible - especially over the age of 35 and with ruptured discs in the lower back. ;-) What do you think about locking out the joints at the end position of a pushing movement, when squatting e.g.? Good for hardness or good for injury?
Good advice for most people Ric. I think programs like Layne Norton's Strength/hypertrophy program that blend low reps and heavy weight along side high reps and low weight yields big results. I did his program for 10 weeks and made huge strength gains.
Very sound advice. The magazines all had us believe that we had to squat 500 pounds to look great. So we did. We also did tons of forced reps, drop sets blah blah blah. Listen to Ric. I now choose a weight that I can pause at the contracted position. So laterals at the top get a squeeze. Everything gets a squeeze and I feel the motion at every single point. I go as heavy as I can with those confines. Thanks for the words of wisdom.
Very good advice Rick! People might not agree but what they don't understand is your only trying to help them. So for that I say Thank You! Keep up the Good work.
I agree with Rick 100%. Been BB for 30 years and I go with medium weight now and follow a clean diet with a cheat twice a month.I'm still have my size.There are guys in the gym that go super heavy but they look like crap and are fat.I would rather look good and feel good too.Train smart.Thanks Ric
Crap! My arms fall asleep at night, too!! As much as I hate to admit it, I do get better results using 65 pound dumbbells for bench press than I did using 300 lbs with a barbell.
I completely agree with you. I am fifty years old and have squatted over 450 at 165 bodyweight. Recently my right knee bothered me (playing football with 25 year olds) so I was unable to squat at all. As I recovered I started training easy, squatting with 95 pounds (embarrassing) moving to 135 and raised the reps, improved form and my quads look better now than they ever have, eventually using 225 for 18 reps 4 sets. Great advice Ric, most won't heed.
nah, I'm not buying this, sorry Ric. For the natural bbuilder, going heavy is the only way to build a body. Progressive resistence etc. If its hurting, stop. Take more recovery time, rethink nutritional needs. If I live to regret my words, I'll admit Ric knows best.
@RoathRipper You have no idea how ignorant that statement is. How is going heavy the only way, have you met every gym goer on the planet? There are a tonne of guys who can prove you wrong.
@MaratSafinVideos i stand by the time-honored and empirically & scientifically verified principle of progressive resistance training. The thing is, u got these guys on juice and their muscles grow excessively big in an unnaturally short period of time. But its 'immature' muscle, and their joints & ligaments etc can't accommodate the load. U gotta go heavy dude. Its about sending an urgent and uncompromising message to your target muscle group telling it grow its skinny ass.
@RoathRipper You can go to failure without going 'heavy' in the 5-8 rep range. How have I and many other people gained excellent amounts of muscle and still progressing if you "gotta" go heavy? You might like going heavy but I don't need to, sorry.
Overtraining and volume training goes hand in hand with joint pain. Take extra days off the gym and get rid of those dairy leftovers (whey proteins). Have green juices and smoothies instead.
Good vid Ric. I'm pushing 40 and I feel exactly what you mean, LOL! Three things that work for me, are keeping constant tension on the muscles, no swinging weights and periodisation (Google for Hypertrophy Specific Training). Happy holidays from the Netherlands!
ric is right...i am now 45 and i have cut back and do more reps.. another point is your range of motion. I had a problem with my right shoulder and now when i bench i lower just untill my arms are at 90 degrees and the same with military press, incline bench. since i now do 10 reps on most moves and with VERY , VERY strict form my shoulder is OK... Another great video Ric !
Another good idea is to periodize your workout. with 4 weeks cycles. Each cycle should have different intensities. So your body get more shocked from changes, plus it will rest during less intense cycles
Im 43y old now and have been lifting for over 20 y now.. I wish this vid would of been out there when I started.. but I guess I wouldnt have listened just like you reading this...
Now everything is hurting... my feet, ankles, neck. lower back... and I can go on.... I cant really do much anymore...
The name bodybuilding should be named bodyshaping..and thats how u should train... moderate weights... pump -no ego.
For all of you who want to impress that special chick...thnik twice
Increase protein? When you have inflamation which is caused from acid waste that the body can't get rid of..... No way Ric! If you have inflamation the very last thing you wanna do is protein.....
The antagonist to Acid in the body is KALCIUM. You take kalcium from the bones to fight the acids. I understand that in order to build a "puffy" body we need to have some protein but it's never a remedy to joint pains.
No mean to come through harsh Ric, I like your videos
It's ridiculous how bad the form is with most guys at the gym! They're trying to curl 70 and 80 pound dumbbells and only lift it like an inch, plus they're jerking and screaming like idiots! At most gyms guys always lift WAY too heavy, and the girls who lift go WAY too light and do like a million reps. More people need to watch your videos.
I dont fully agree with this video. All the best bodybuilders and obviously powerlifters lift heavy. Heavy is relative. Whats heavy for one is light for another. I dont think you would have been the bodybuilder you were Ric, without lifting heavy as you did. you point out big IFBB pros who use 15lb DBs, we all know that they are on tons of steroids and that allows them to do that. Are you sure we should attirbute this to lifting heavy, and not so much as being a wrestler and taking body slams?
ok, well then by that reasoning arnold should have never trained so heavy, he should never have benched 400+, and franco should have never trained so hard to deadlift 700lbs. Then lets see what kind of bodybuilders they would have been. And the majority of people that fill LA county hospitals that have degenerative joint disease, arhtritis, back pain, ARE NOT ex bodybuilders or powerlifters. they are normal sedentary job based people with no background in exercise.
@hybridman I agree with you. I'm not saying we didn't all do it but the majority are suffering today from it. I see them all down in Venice complaining
@ricdrasin I'm only 22 and already have slight pain in my elbows and shoulder from lifting. I'm glad I'm hearing this now instead of after I get a major injury. Thanks, Ric!
well then I also would like to add you should share this video with mike o hearn, of whom you just interviewed. he is in his 40s and benches 500, squats 800lbs, curls 225lb for reps. I highly doubt he would be where hes at had he not lifted heavy.
@hybridman Heavy is relative, and a 300lb bench press for 10 reps may feel light for some, but what's doing most of the work, muscle or joints? Your joints don't grow stronger to the extent your muscle does.
@MaratSafinVideos I already said heavy is relative. The best bodybuilders and powerlifters use heavy weights, regardless of what you want to think. Ronnie Coleman, Johnnie Jackson, Franco Columbo dont look as they do and would not be the bodybuilders they are without training heavy. Telling people NOT to train heavy is already setting them up for failure and not accomplishing their goals.
@hybridman I was simply mentioning your point of heavy is relative to go on and discuss this point. You don't need to go heavy to gain muscle. Not everyone in a gym is aiming for the IFBB, for pete's sake. Ric is giving advice to those at home who take up bodybuilding as a hobby in a way to become stronger and to achieve an aesthetically pleasing body.
TO ALL THE GUYS WHO DEBATE ABOUT HEAVY LIFTING FOR BODY BUILDING PURPOSES: CHECK OUT BOBBY PANDOUR.
A MAN ( WITH A PHYSIQUE THAT MOST PEOPLE COULD NEVER ATTAIN) WHO REFUSED TO LIFT ANYTHING HEAVIER THAN A 10 POUND DUMBBELL!!!
cuchulainn1967 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Ric, do you think all the high volume is what caused that joint pain?
Dorian only trained 4 times a week. He only got injuries because he didn't stop going too heavy and to beyond failure when he was precontest when his energy was down.
shadowknight132 2 months ago
Also not locking out on exercises has helped me alot and I get a much better pump from it
JDilla2812 2 months ago
I enjoy your video's about the old days, and couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure some will have more joint issues than others, but generally if you have trained heavy you will experience joint pain. I've had both shoulders and one knee cut on and now experience some spinal issues as well. Great advice, hope it is heeded!
s55b 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Albert BEckles still trains heavy at over 80. is there a chance to get his take on this. he is living proof that age means nothing. merry x mas rich
magkandler1 2 months ago
@magkandler1 Albert had two shoulder surgeries from injuries.. I see him every day and he trained heavy.. It caught up with him as he had major back surgery 5 months ago and almost died from staph infections,blood clots and numerous other problems. He's been in the gym this week visiting with a full back brace and cane, afraid to move and will most likely not train again. Too bad as he's such a nice guy
ricdrasin 2 months ago
@ricdrasin Pls send the best wishes from the entire community. albert's episode has the most views on your show so I think I do speak on behalf of everyone here. He is the greatest!
magkandler1 2 months ago
Flex seed and fish oil took care of my should pain,my hips still killing me.
bizuca 2 months ago
I was just thinking about this the other day! Thanks Ric.
Primetome 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Using lighter weights sounds sensible - especially over the age of 35 and with ruptured discs in the lower back. ;-) What do you think about locking out the joints at the end position of a pushing movement, when squatting e.g.? Good for hardness or good for injury?
PliniusMuscleHeaven 2 months ago
Good advice for most people Ric. I think programs like Layne Norton's Strength/hypertrophy program that blend low reps and heavy weight along side high reps and low weight yields big results. I did his program for 10 weeks and made huge strength gains.
FastRedPonyCar 2 months ago
Very sound advice. The magazines all had us believe that we had to squat 500 pounds to look great. So we did. We also did tons of forced reps, drop sets blah blah blah. Listen to Ric. I now choose a weight that I can pause at the contracted position. So laterals at the top get a squeeze. Everything gets a squeeze and I feel the motion at every single point. I go as heavy as I can with those confines. Thanks for the words of wisdom.
stephenmarklay 2 months ago
Very good advice Rick! People might not agree but what they don't understand is your only trying to help them. So for that I say Thank You! Keep up the Good work.
harris1234100 2 months ago
I agree with Rick 100%. Been BB for 30 years and I go with medium weight now and follow a clean diet with a cheat twice a month.I'm still have my size.There are guys in the gym that go super heavy but they look like crap and are fat.I would rather look good and feel good too.Train smart.Thanks Ric
mrgregkeefer100 2 months ago
Crap! My arms fall asleep at night, too!! As much as I hate to admit it, I do get better results using 65 pound dumbbells for bench press than I did using 300 lbs with a barbell.
IsIt2late 2 months ago
I completely agree with you. I am fifty years old and have squatted over 450 at 165 bodyweight. Recently my right knee bothered me (playing football with 25 year olds) so I was unable to squat at all. As I recovered I started training easy, squatting with 95 pounds (embarrassing) moving to 135 and raised the reps, improved form and my quads look better now than they ever have, eventually using 225 for 18 reps 4 sets. Great advice Ric, most won't heed.
lonemapper 2 months ago
nah, I'm not buying this, sorry Ric. For the natural bbuilder, going heavy is the only way to build a body. Progressive resistence etc. If its hurting, stop. Take more recovery time, rethink nutritional needs. If I live to regret my words, I'll admit Ric knows best.
RoathRipper 2 months ago
@RoathRipper You have no idea how ignorant that statement is. How is going heavy the only way, have you met every gym goer on the planet? There are a tonne of guys who can prove you wrong.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago
@MaratSafinVideos i stand by the time-honored and empirically & scientifically verified principle of progressive resistance training. The thing is, u got these guys on juice and their muscles grow excessively big in an unnaturally short period of time. But its 'immature' muscle, and their joints & ligaments etc can't accommodate the load. U gotta go heavy dude. Its about sending an urgent and uncompromising message to your target muscle group telling it grow its skinny ass.
RoathRipper 2 months ago
@RoathRipper You can go to failure without going 'heavy' in the 5-8 rep range. How have I and many other people gained excellent amounts of muscle and still progressing if you "gotta" go heavy? You might like going heavy but I don't need to, sorry.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago
Ric, we need Arnold on here man!!!
mw252kool 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Overtraining and volume training goes hand in hand with joint pain. Take extra days off the gym and get rid of those dairy leftovers (whey proteins). Have green juices and smoothies instead.
leahcimrac 2 months ago
Good vid Ric. I'm pushing 40 and I feel exactly what you mean, LOL! Three things that work for me, are keeping constant tension on the muscles, no swinging weights and periodisation (Google for Hypertrophy Specific Training). Happy holidays from the Netherlands!
virtualreal 2 months ago
So thats why my arms are dead when i wake up
asnan1488 2 months ago
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filipmn 2 months ago
ric is right...i am now 45 and i have cut back and do more reps.. another point is your range of motion. I had a problem with my right shoulder and now when i bench i lower just untill my arms are at 90 degrees and the same with military press, incline bench. since i now do 10 reps on most moves and with VERY , VERY strict form my shoulder is OK... Another great video Ric !
mad1966dog 2 months ago
Another good idea is to periodize your workout. with 4 weeks cycles. Each cycle should have different intensities. So your body get more shocked from changes, plus it will rest during less intense cycles
letrasherfou 2 months ago
Im 43y old now and have been lifting for over 20 y now.. I wish this vid would of been out there when I started.. but I guess I wouldnt have listened just like you reading this...
Now everything is hurting... my feet, ankles, neck. lower back... and I can go on.... I cant really do much anymore...
The name bodybuilding should be named bodyshaping..and thats how u should train... moderate weights... pump -no ego.
For all of you who want to impress that special chick...thnik twice
HeadscissorLuver 2 months ago
Increase protein? When you have inflamation which is caused from acid waste that the body can't get rid of..... No way Ric! If you have inflamation the very last thing you wanna do is protein.....
The antagonist to Acid in the body is KALCIUM. You take kalcium from the bones to fight the acids. I understand that in order to build a "puffy" body we need to have some protein but it's never a remedy to joint pains.
No mean to come through harsh Ric, I like your videos
milkmannen 2 months ago
HAPPY CHRISTMAS RIC
simpletruths10 2 months ago
It's ridiculous how bad the form is with most guys at the gym! They're trying to curl 70 and 80 pound dumbbells and only lift it like an inch, plus they're jerking and screaming like idiots! At most gyms guys always lift WAY too heavy, and the girls who lift go WAY too light and do like a million reps. More people need to watch your videos.
Merry Christmas Rick!!!!
strategery101 2 months ago
I dont fully agree with this video. All the best bodybuilders and obviously powerlifters lift heavy. Heavy is relative. Whats heavy for one is light for another. I dont think you would have been the bodybuilder you were Ric, without lifting heavy as you did. you point out big IFBB pros who use 15lb DBs, we all know that they are on tons of steroids and that allows them to do that. Are you sure we should attirbute this to lifting heavy, and not so much as being a wrestler and taking body slams?
hybridman 2 months ago
@hybridman You don't have to agree, But I can come up with many old school bodybuilder that will agree with me. It's just a fact.
ricdrasin 2 months ago
@ricdrasin
ok, well then by that reasoning arnold should have never trained so heavy, he should never have benched 400+, and franco should have never trained so hard to deadlift 700lbs. Then lets see what kind of bodybuilders they would have been. And the majority of people that fill LA county hospitals that have degenerative joint disease, arhtritis, back pain, ARE NOT ex bodybuilders or powerlifters. they are normal sedentary job based people with no background in exercise.
hybridman 2 months ago
@hybridman I agree with you. I'm not saying we didn't all do it but the majority are suffering today from it. I see them all down in Venice complaining
ricdrasin 2 months ago
@ricdrasin I'm only 22 and already have slight pain in my elbows and shoulder from lifting. I'm glad I'm hearing this now instead of after I get a major injury. Thanks, Ric!
trevor1787 2 months ago
@ricdrasin
well then I also would like to add you should share this video with mike o hearn, of whom you just interviewed. he is in his 40s and benches 500, squats 800lbs, curls 225lb for reps. I highly doubt he would be where hes at had he not lifted heavy.
hybridman 2 months ago
@hybridman Heavy is relative, and a 300lb bench press for 10 reps may feel light for some, but what's doing most of the work, muscle or joints? Your joints don't grow stronger to the extent your muscle does.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MaratSafinVideos I already said heavy is relative. The best bodybuilders and powerlifters use heavy weights, regardless of what you want to think. Ronnie Coleman, Johnnie Jackson, Franco Columbo dont look as they do and would not be the bodybuilders they are without training heavy. Telling people NOT to train heavy is already setting them up for failure and not accomplishing their goals.
hybridman 2 months ago
@hybridman I was simply mentioning your point of heavy is relative to go on and discuss this point. You don't need to go heavy to gain muscle. Not everyone in a gym is aiming for the IFBB, for pete's sake. Ric is giving advice to those at home who take up bodybuilding as a hobby in a way to become stronger and to achieve an aesthetically pleasing body.
MaratSafinVideos 2 months ago
like lee haney says, "you train to stimulate not annihilate"
shadowknight132 2 months ago
thanks rick great information.
adamsmith85 2 months ago