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  • Too many evil bastards with engorged egos on this planet. I hope they all die soon.

  • Ask any kids in china in their 20's - 30's about the tiananmen square massacre and they would not have a clue, the chinese govt. erase this incident from their books... ask anyone about it and they'll deny it because they fear of being taken away by the secret police.

  • @cosmos0918 Yea sure, who fed you this propaganda?

  • @kw0s I was fed by the same propaganda machine that is feeding you, until I took this Fact-Finding trip. A real wake up call for me. Were you born? Have you talked to anyone with personal knowledge? Suggest to watch MIA1, MIA2, MIA3…MIA99, very good feeling good movies and they are all REAL.

  • If the Republic of China won the Chinese Civil War none of this would have happened.

  • @typhoonstorm95 Sorry to tell you. Republic of China killed some students protesting China should fight the Japanese in 1930s . A few years later, they lost the country. I am pretty sure this history lesson is not forgotten by the current regime.

  • @kw0s Did the Republic of China kill 80 million of their own people? The ROC focused on killing the communist. When the CPC captured Chiang Kai Shek they forced him to agree to alliance with the CPC when the ROC was on the brink of winning against them. During their alliance the ROC fought the Japanese in full scale battle while the communist gathered farmers and fought the Japanese through guerrilla warfare. When Japan surrendered the ROC military and holdings were weak compare to CPC.

  • @typhoonstorm95 Killed 80 mil? Where did you get this info? The details of Zhang Xueliang or Chang Hsüeh-liang and Xi’an incident are forever lost in Chinese history. No living soul can tell. We will never know if Zhang did it to have a united China to fight or he was a communist sympathizer? Both ROC and CPC fought the best they could with what they have. ROC did loss the hearts of the average Chinese. After Japan surrender, Russian gave the Japanese arms to the CPC and rest is history.

  • @typhoonstorm95 don't say if with the history. If the republic of china was strong enough, It wouldn't fall.

  • @zZchuoiZz The Republic of China still exist on Taiwan so it didn't completely fall.I don't see the problem with using if with history if the Republic of China won the war then the Tiananmen Square Massacre wouldn't have happened. UN forces would have won against the N Korea as the only reason they exist is because of the PRC save them.Just as UN forces pushed the N Koreans to the borders of China.Cultural Revolution would have never had happpened.But your right I can't determine history

  • We should have hired the Chinese military to take care of all those "Occupy" assholes

  • omg i will never forgive chinas militery thats just crule they were just fighting for there country i fell so bad!!! i wish there mom and dad actuly knew what happened to them!!! i also wish all of them were alive now!!!

    R.I.P students that were killed in Tiananmen square

  • The poor souls these people were the freedom fighters for their countries rights

  • Holy crap, not this again. I was in the Square 2 weeks before and came back to US. I was shocked by the US news media until I took a Fact-Finding trip. I have many relatives in various parts of China, including Beijing. I visit the “crime scene” and talked to a number of student leaders outside of China. I walked away realizing this was a HUGE Western propaganda.

  • @kw0s no one will admit it because they are afraid. Afraid that they will be taken away and shot. Where have you been? you are one clueless fuck. do some more research.. or use your brain at least.. let me guess, you're a chinese commie so that's why you are denying that this ever happen... wake up man, it's happening to your own people.

  • @cosmos0918 Geez, you are not very bright, learn to ask smart questions instead of listen to propaganda. Yes, I was first fooled by the US news. During the fact-finding trip, I talked to the WITNESS, they were many. Some were my relatives, they have no reason to lie and told me what they saw, not heard. This was a public knowledge at the time, not a myth. Some witness were student leaders living outside of China for a long time.

  • please just use this song for nuclear apocolypse videos, thank you

  • Never Forget!

  • and then we went and gave them all our money..

  • God Bless the innocent and those that die fighting tyranny. There is no greater sacrifice...governments must fear the People, not the other way around.

  • As once an American said my dog's life is worth more any chinese!! WHICH IS TRUE!!

  • HELL ON EARTH IF CHINA TAKES THE PLACE OF USA!!

  • For the chinese people that are making fun of mao, idk if ur stupid or not but.. if it wasn't for him u wouldn't be even posting a comment saying how he's like hitler and tbh hitler was a great leader excluding the part wheew he killed a bunch of jews. And if ur gonna make fun of mao go do it infront of tiananmen square I can gurantee ppl will beat the living heck out of u ang government is gonna arrezt u and shoot u.

  • @TheAnimeTVTokyo lol you special person

  • WIKILEAKS CABLES HAVE SHOWN a massacre DID NOT TAKE PLACE.

    Check the Telegraph report on it.

  • From another video, I heard it all started because the President thinks that the protester disgraced him in front of his foreign minister, so to him, it's like a lesson to be taught to them and never protest again.

    The army didn't even know what happened, they were not allowed to read newspapers in camp, when being called to shoot on spot, live fire, they had to follow orders or not, they will be the ones to be shot.

  • And can we learn more abt who shot this video?

  • That is so inappropriate! I didn't even want to watch the video til the end.

    It's a pity because these are interesting images but they are spoilt because of the music. That is not cinema! We're talking of news, past events, abt what happened on the 4th of July 1989. Do we really need a music to understand the tragic of the stituation?

  • @colomb2010 faggot music is awesome shutup

  • The fact that people STILL, to this day, advocate communism is beyond me.

  • @grimmerMD The urge to crush you is not Communism's alone. Believe me, Corporate Communism is coming to grind you into obedience.

    Have your sense organs been working the last two months?

  • CPC WILL FALL

  • @AndrewBell Nop CPC will not fall. CPC is the best China has to offer as a government entity. If it falls, there will not be a better entity or even an other entity to replace it. Besides, not a single chinese knows about this event. Even if they were a part of it, they will not speak of it even to their children. There is nothing that angers the brain washed population, therefore no revolution will ever take place. If a revolution take place, it will most probably end up like the last one.

  • i think its all the people who they think is TANK MAN

  • is the part at 2:35 that depreses me the most

  • @ snlover

    The US is decades behind the times and needs to reform, but doesn't seem to realise it.

    New Zealand got rid of business subsidies about 30 years ago so we would avoid the sort of mess the US is in right now.

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    US and CCP leaders should come and stay in New Zealand for a couple of months and learn about Proportional Voting and a country that has relatively little corruption.

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    Google Corruption Perceptions Index and see which countries the CCP and US should be learning from.

  • @ sntlover

    I thought most chinese used chop sticks rather than forks

  • @ snlover

    If you love China you will realise that the CCP is anti china and anti chinese.

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    People around the world should learn that violence doesn't solve anything

    and

    is a distraction to the world being over run with pollution.

  • Proof that bullets cannot stop the will of the people... or perhaps they can...

  • why should any chinese natrional be surprised or heart broken. this is a corrupt sytem they allowed along time ago. this is the result of not always turning a blind eye to the obvious. CORRUPTION

  • Socialism = Nazis, Mao Zhi Dong = Hitler

  • That tank man, my friends, is an example of what it means to have BALLS.

  • at 3:05 the guy is saying that nobody got killed.

  • @AlanPartridge41M I assume you can't be referring to the Tianenmen Square massacre then - where "preserving law and order" was simply a euphemism for "enacting dictatorial oppression on peaceful student demonstrators".

  • @AlanPartridge41M I'm not sure how you equate gay rights to the Tienanmen Square protests, in terms of the issue being merely "academic". I mean, you're comparing two completely different things anyway. The protesters in Tienanmen Square were protesting for their rights just as many groups in the west do, except that on this occasion, their protest was brutally ended by the government. Simply saying things is one issue, but physically causing harm is another.

  • They believed in a right that should be bestowed upon them from birth. I'm exaggerating here, but animals have more freedom than these people. 

  • @ AlanPartridge41M

    The Regime of China is a RACIST State TERRORIST Regime. Its by far and away the main problem in China, South Mongolia and Tibet

  • Believe it or not, this IS normal government behavior. The only "abnormal" thought processes on this earth is our, the American people. We "BELIEVE" that our sacred, perfect "For The People" government would not do such a thing against us. But just you wait & see. In a few more years when the U.S. gov along with the Lib, Jewish politicians keep taking our freedoms & constitutional rights, we will take to the streets & then there will be marshal law & some of us WILL DIE. Wait til the economy sks

  • @ racistathiest

    Nothing like this happens in NZ. I guess we all have to be glad we don't live in China or the US.

  • @FalunGongIsAmazing Nothing like this happens in the U.S. either. I think racistatheist666 is just, well... a racist atheist, haha.

  • @typicalmelburnian

    You have to give him credit for being honest :)))

  • @FalunGongIsAmazing Honest about his feelings, but utterly ignorant about the real world. I can't credit him because of the latter. :-\

  • @typicalmelburnian

    When I turn on my TV in NZ it often says how great the Economic Growth in China is.

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    But it fails to mention that Environmental Damage is 15% of GDP in China. So its pretty easy to get brainwashed in NZ, by shallow analysis or media that don't know the big picture

  • @FalunGongIsAmazing What does that have to do with racistatheist666's comments? I'm not seeing the connection.

  • @ typicalmelburnian

    You were saying he is utterly ignorant about the real world. So I guess I'm supporting your comment. NZ is a pretty civilised country in some ways (apart of from a few exceptions) but we get brainwashed by what is feed to us on TV.

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    The US seems preoccupied with jobs and maybe freedom but if the planet isn't liveable (which we seem happy to head to) there isn't much point in having a job.

  • @ AlanPartridge41M

    Do you know about the persecution of Falun Gong which began in 1999 ???

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    The Govt. of China is trying to exterminate Falun Gong and Tibetan Buddhism

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    Thousands of Falun Gong have already been confirmed Tortured to Death by the evil Govt. of China

  • @FalunGongIsAmazing I think these facts are widely known. Forgive me for being blunt, but what's your point? How is this relevant to the video?

  • @typicalmelburnian

    AlanPartridge41M's comments that were being replied to appear to have been gone so its hard to tell explain what happened.

    I suggest people mark the comment from

    skynetlover 4 weeks ago

    as spam so it disappears. I seen that comment on another video

  • @AlanPartridge41M I'm not really sure why you think that the "massacre" is propaganda. It is valid to suggest that there was no "massacre" as such, but it remains a fact that the Chinese military killed innocent civilians in an attempt to end the protests. And nobody "stopped" the footage of Tank Man - there's a ton of footage on YouTube showing that he was never run over. But nevertheless, nobody knows of his whereabouts subsequent to that. I'm not sure where you get that from.

  • 2:34 who are those?

  • i am the chinese man who dares say free tibet and down with the communist goverment. the CCP may have brought in billions for china but at the expense of blood and freedom. i hope china will unite itself once again, from religious activist to freedom activist and march against the tyranny of comminism. i was once a follower of the CCP. but once i looked at both sides of the story(activist), i changed my views for freedom. i urge the rest of u to look at both sides of the story before u choose

  • Wow, what a bunch of peaceful protesters. I'm sure those Molotov cocktails they threw were just to help keep those soldiers warm.

  • @dtothelu I can only assume you're being sarcastic. If not, then this is one of the most horrific statements I've read on YouTube.

  • @typicalmelburnian I am totally serious, because I think Molotov cocktails are a safe and perfectly good way to keep warm. Especially in June.

  • @dtothelu Cool. I'll start the slow clap for you then.

  • 1:01 Is that a man?

  • Damn communists. They are killing their own people. Hong Kong is China's last hope!!!

  • "Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world; it is God's gift to humanity."

    gwb

  • @chrisbburch there is no god...

  • @chrisbburch It should be.

  • They fired warning shots, yet they still wouldn't back off, so they had to do what they had to do.

  • @fuckyou121212121212 I recommend reading Prisoner of the State by Zhao Ziyang. It will demonstrate why they never had to do what they did.

  • "Isso não é Comunismo". Não, não é como sistema politico em si. Mas o Comunismo NÃO VIVE sem TOTALITARISMO, como foi PROVADO em todas as décadas e mais de 100 MILHOES DE INOCENTES ASSASSINADOS por esse regime do inferno, saido da cabeça de um VADIO e apoiado por FRACASSADOS, INCAPAZES e RECALCADOS!!! Só podia resultar em todos os massacres que tal "regime economico" perpetrou.

  • THE COUNTRY HAS TO CONTROL THER PEOPLE UNLIKEY THE SHITY JOB ENGLAND DID

  • @headshot623 Your spelling is shit and so is your mindset. With what you just said says' that your have no problem with the people that were shot that day. If your willing to back up the government on that one then you must be willing to work for 15 cents a day and a couple of small bowls of fucking junky ass food. YOU must be ok with the corruption and power hungry people behind their government. YOU must be ok not having a voice that GOD has gifted the people over there.

  • you must be anuther yankie christian and if uv been to england the fucking place is full of indians evin the mayer of my city is a packie cunt nd i spelt things rong to piss u of FUCK U FROM STOKE CITY IN ENGLAND

  • @headshot623 Yes I am another Yankee Christian i guess you could say but your maturity level shows your character. Grow up and man up. Don't bother even saying your a man because if you were then you wouldn't be pulling out prejudism about me being a yank. Go back to disney (dot) com or whatever it is that you get off to. BTW: What does it matter about you having a "packie" as a mayor? Our President is black. With Love, -A Yank from America

  • no m8 i dont go to fucking disney land i fucking beat up little packie cunts fore taking desint english peoples jobs and turning it in to a cip fore the people who are english .and i am a fucking man u grow up and realise that god isent real how retarted are u.god made u.no he dident my mum and dad did

  • @headshot623 Your nothing but a pubescent teen so I can tell there isnt any use in talking to you. Your no man at all. If you were then you would have the patience and understanding of one not ignorance and not ego big remarks. Stop while your ahead so you dont make yourself look even worse. Your giving your people of England a bad name by acting like this. Go get an education and a life, and do something with yourself.

  • u will never understand 

  • Has the United States Government ever done anything like this?...NOPE.

    GOD BLESS THE USA!! And happy Independence Day tomorrow! Fight for your Rights.

  • @chineseheart there was a bunch of college students sitting in front of a building who where slaughtered

  • There is no Tianamen Square massacre....

    The killing is outside the sqaure. "Tianamen Square massacre" is used to make ppl beleived that thousands of students were rounded up and slaughtered... this is not true.... everyone who made it up and keep it as it is will be cursed.

  • EVIL

  • REPUBLIC OF EVIL OFFICIALS

  • china can fight against unarmed tibetan monks!!!!

  • This is how the Chinese government "loves" their people...

  • I don't know what to say I'm from egypt and I was with the protesters all I hope is to make this world a better place and hope u can do the same god be with u

  • CCP tries to say that, like the Holocaust, Tiananmen "never happened."

    CCP says Tiananmen was a "western plot to destroy China."

    Yet, all the west did after Tiananmen was to immediately develop more and more trade with China.

    Therefore, the CCP's story is totally bogus.

  • 1 miliardo di cinesi e dopo sta roba non hanno avuto nemmeno le palle di ribellarsi... cazzo.. 1 miliardo... 1 miliardo... la vecchia Cina imperiale è morta.

  • the chinese cant fight a war unless it is against unarmed civilians they are a weak and a cowardly military force

  • In my opinion those Chinese didn't know what they are doing, Deng Xiaoping is the dictator of Communist China that made them a Economic Power not Mao. Deng Xiaoping don't deserve protest and maybe those adults made a protest on Mao's Time his the killer.

  • @madara435 I think they were protesting about some general grievances, rather than against one particular leader.

  • i agree the chinese authorities that massacred their own people should be hung and put on trial in the hague for war crimes. just because china is powerful does not excuse their war crimes or crimes against their people.

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  • what r those chinese officials saying? subtitles please!

    Thank you!

  • @sujitthegame :so the basic meaning is the army can take any kind of action to settle the protest, and only students temselves take responsible for the outcome of being against

  • Naive students thought they can change the government.. What they caused was chaos in 300 cities all across China. They nearly derailed the economic reforms. In the end they caused the downfall of moderates like Zhao Ziyang.

  • @twenlil

    its becuz they were not given basic human rights. The gov of that time was not doing any good for the people. I believe it was right to stand up against the government. Government is there to govern and not rule, these 2 are totally different words. And the gov here were overruling and did not give shit about the human rights, so it was right for them to stand up n speak for themselves. It only ended sadly, but at least the gov got the power capability of the people.

  • Students sat on their arears duped by the West got slaughtered by guns and tanks in Tiananmen Sq. War veterans fought for their country came home to be slaughtered by guns and tanks in Washington DC. known by few as the BONUS MARCH. Communist vs. Democrats, who is more evil???

  • Does this song always need to be used in videos like this?

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  • Is th Chinese people did this again nowadays, I think they may have a better chance of success.. With the media and the world watching and human rights higher then before, they stand a chance. If the gouvernment decided to shoot the protesters, they would have to answer to the big countries.

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  • i've heared about tinanamen square but i've never imagined it has been so brutality like this , it reminds me with what had happened to us in tahrir square in egypt during the 25 january revoluataion to step down the dictatorship hosny moubark we fought police brutality and about 800 were killed for freedom , poor china :(

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  • This is a horrendous crime against humanity

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  • UGH IGNORANT AMERICANS. U R FUCKING CLUELESS. THE "MASSACRE" WAS LIKE UR CIVIL WAR. TRYING TO KEEP TOGETHER A NATION, SACRIFICE WAS NECESSARY. THESE VIDEOS MEAN NOTHING IF U DONT KNOW THE OTHER SIDE. FUCK TAIWAN.

  • @ervin920 Go kill yourself, you obviously dont know anything about it. Communism doesnt work.

  • @MicrowavableJo Just because communism has not worked does not mean it can never work.

    (I am NOT a communist)

  • @ervin920 For a country to do that is horrible, those people were defenseless, it's not like the Civil War where both sides were armed. Also if the people were protesting, don't you think they would be doing it for good reason? From what I've read about it, those protesting fought for liberation and political reform. China hides information from its own people. Those in China don't have access to Youtube or Google. Also lay off the caps, it only makes you look like an idiot.

  • @ervin920 The "other side" you're blathering on about stands for nothing but death, human misery and enslavement. "Sacrifice was necessary"? Anyone who thinks this was anything less than outright murder is a psychotic fascist. These people were/are freedom-fighters and heroes in the truest sense. YOU are the delusional idiot who needs to get a freaking clue!!

  • @ervin920

    A civil war is not the killing of defenceless civilians.. The American Civil War was two armed states fighting against eachother. This massacre was an army whose role is to defend its people, being ordered to kill unarmed civilians. It was not a civil war. It was murder.

  • @qdros u r so fucking blind. i have no need to take to u, brainwashed faggot.

  • @ervin920 @ervin920 those idiot mutha fucker like you is the one got brainwashed.

    Fuck your mother, fuck yu chink

    Taiwan is a country !!!

  • @ervin920 except in civil war both side are equal matched in armaments, not student vs tanks. Please try us a dictionary and look up divination for "MASSACRE". I think keep the world a less stupid place, SACRIFICE idiots like U IS NECESSARY. Besides that, u really though China was in danger from protests like this? Trying to keep together a nation? I think u just called your beloved leaders a useless pussy. CPC will not fall, it is the best China has got, CPC is the best China can offer.

  • Communist, fascists, Wahhabists they have no place on our streets let alone on this earth; human scum. To which their ONLY saving grace should be two hands in the air. Freedom shall prevail.

  • This is the day when the army declared war on the people.

  • Real freedom is when the Government is scared of its people.

  • Why don't you ask the kids at tiananmen square

  • @MrTehcat Was fashion the reason why they were there.

  • dont imagine.chinese knew, so what? democracy is shit like us fading every day and night. we get stronger until we can take down the whole world. just wait!!! pussy

  • the US should have nuked the whole of china a long time ago

  • Does any Chinese people here know if China will change and those who did this will be executed with shoot in the head?

  • Lol at the Americans who act disgraced at this video and act as though they wouldn't do this stuff... Ever heard of Wikileaks? DU? Civilian Casualties? HAARP? No? Brainwashed by the media?

  • anti comunnist !!!! fack the china. i want to delete for china in the world

  • Imagine if one day every TV and computer in China just suddenly started playing this video.

    I wonder how the Chinese gov't would respond.

  • chinese peaple dont really care about their governent as long as their economy is good or else they would have already overtrown it

  • :D

  • Is Li Peng dead yet? May he burn in hell.

  • @BobLeKatt No it isnt

  • All of them is chinese student and professor .Shame on PLA,shame on chinese mandarin government.

  • Its worth remembering that it was not just Tiananmen Square there were uprising all over China. A little known fact is that the Chinese army took over 10,000 casulaties in the week of the uprisings.

  • the biggest jail CHINA

  • Fuck COMMUNIST! Ass Hole

  • What is amazing is that we defeat Japan in 45' that takes a tremendous burden off the shoulders of the Chinese. Only for the Chinese to repay us by siding with North Korea and sending soldiers to attack US troops in 50'-53'. I love the gratitude of the Chinese.

  • @StonewallJackson26

    That was before the Communists came to power, moron.

  • @terrorfalc That matters little dick head. That isn't my point.

  • @StonewallJackson26 The China in 1945 was the Republic of China whereas the China in 1949 onward was the People's Republic of China. These are two different countries. One is a democracy while the other is communist. You can blame the Chinese government but you shouldn't blame Chinese people.

  • horrible

  • poor China... They can't do the same as Egypt and Libya... Chinese goverment is too strong to be taken down.. This world is SHIT!

  • @Opuliskii chinese government traded over 60% of the tax to buy tank and helicopters to control the population

  • @Opuliskii

    Well said!

  • @Opuliskii lmfao..you think there arent people with that resistance spirit still there? this will happen again one day

  • @Opuliskii yeah, with egypt and libya the governments were very fluctuating and chaotic, so they hardly had any power in the first place. in china however, its been well established and in power for years. its even worse than the soviet union, because china does well economically, so it wont fall on its own. westerners cant do anything, cause we depend on it economically. the only way right now is gradual reform and change.

  • This is what makes Communism look bad...Stupid Goverment is not supposed to be in such control it's supposed to be the People who are in control unfortanatly though people are ass holes...the American Goverment isn't any better....they kill and slaughter way more inocent people and civilans as China did in Tiananmen square massacre

  • @skippers96 How so?

  • @skippers96 Yeah, these massacres happen all the time in the USA... retard. Oh, commy retard. LoL

  • @OlderG0ds I think he is referring to killings in the middle east and areas where america has been in combat. Which if you added it up would be a huge amount higher than any action taken by the chinese. however that is a warzone and this was a protest.

  • @deadned666 I think u need to do more research. Amount of people died from Chinese communist government actions is way more than the US + middle east population combined.

  • @OlderG0ds Yea, AMERICA! Fuck yeah! It's not like we killed thousands of innocent civilians in wars that are still going on or anything.

  • @dtothelu Yeah because slaughtering your own people in your own streets is the same as accidentally killing civilians who are used as human shields in a war. Yup. Thank god you chimed in.

  • @OlderG0ds Your welcome, good sir. Just as the communist leaders did not want there to be bloodshed when they cleared the square but knew very well that there would be, US leaders also knew that there would be many civilian deaths yet still gave the go ahead to invade anyway. That makes them both about equally guilty in my eyes. Both spilled the blood of innocents to try and neutralize supposed threats to the stability of the nation.

  • @dtothelu I'm not entirely sure how you can suggest, with any authority, that the United States has blood on its hands due to the Tiananmen Square massacre. I believe that's a red herring.

    For your own information, I strongly suggest reading Prisoner of the State, which includes transcripts of the private recordings of Party General Secretary Zhao Ziyang. You will find that United States opinion did not factor at all into the PRC Politburo's thinking or strategy regarding the intervention.

  • @typicalmelburnian I wasn't talking about the US having blood on it's hands from the June 6th event. I'm talking about the US having blood on it's hands from the invasion of the Middle East and how there are parallels between it and the Tiananmen massacre.

  • @dtothelu Fair enough - I just don't see the parallels. In Tienanmen Square, the Chinese government attacked its own citizens who were peacefully protesting. In the Middle East, the United States declared war against two regimes (the Taliban and the Baath regime, respectively). Even if you disagree with those declarations of war, I don't think you can draw very many parallels between the Tienanmen Square and the Middle East conflicts. The two are quite different.

  • @typicalmelburnian Here is the parallel: People died on both situations because of a group of corrupted assholes.

  • @BadassBigBoss That's not a parallel or an explanation of anything. The invasions in Afghanistan and Iraq were wars against foreign powers, whereas the Tiananmen Square massacre was a military response to a peaceful protest in the same country. There's really no parallel that can be made of these two very different situations.

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