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  • I've been to a socialist country and one of the things I've noticed between it and current day America is education equality eradicates such idiocracy this man projects.

  • Wow, this guys is an idiot. He doesn't want to admit that he may be wrong.

  • A tea party argument

    Obama is bad because he's a socialist marxist nazi and because of health care student loans.

    Who is Karl Marx?

    I dunno but socalism nazi student loans!!!

    Don't even try to reason with them, it's not worth it. Someone should get that guys some student loans so he can go educate himself on the meaning of his arguments

  • Meanwhile in today's news...a car company the U.S. government lent $537,000,000 is taking the money and the jobs to Finland to build cars. I guess this lady is proud and thinks it's an excellent idea for Congress to blow money, accountablity is not needed, we all need our tax's raised.

  • @vonsgu Try watching something besides Fox News and you might have your facts straight. This country would not have a automobile industry if we listened the the right and mit rommney. He said let auto industry go bankrupt. Luckily obama did not listen and now the big 3 are back. Republicans took the country in the toilet and now they want to blame it on the left. wake up people the right has abdicated their obligation to govern. instead they want to dumb us down like guy in the video. REFUSE!

  • @soda1yes Nice rebuttel...typical liberal b/s. "FoxNews" where, did I say anything about fox news? Do you ever what Bloomberg, CNBC, or read the Financial Times. Good God, you're the type of liberal who probably get's all their "facts" from The Daily Show. Guess what... the U.S. did lend money to a company to build electric cars, but the after a while the company deemed it wouldn't be financially sound to stay in the U.S.

  • You folks are funny.......sad but funny. Sounds to me like he answered their questions except for knowing Marx. Funny it took three of these dummies to finally find the Marx flaw. Wonder if these Marx lovers knew that this champion of socialism died a multi-millionaire in 1883....hmmmmmm...so much for "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" I'm sure there were lots of poor in the 1800's......looks like Karl didn't want to share....you folks are screwed up.

  • @kEMCO2 He didn't answer one thing and i bet you can't either. I challenge you, What is socialism? What is Marxism? If you knew what they were then you'd understand how it is impossible to be both. Hate Obama all you want, but at least find a decent reason. He is not a socialist, he is not a Marxist and he was born in America. Get over it.

  • @cgord31 So socialism and Marxism have no relationship to each other.......your an idiot. Go back to making love to your picture of Obama. Oh yes and here is a good reason to boot his ass out next Nov.........he's a dumb ass........he has screwed up about everything he has touched.....he is in way over his head.....can't even imagine how screwed we would be had the Dems hung on to the house in 2010. Now go away and let serious people work on our country's problems.

  • You're a typical moronic American. You didn't even answer the question, What is Marxism? What is Socialism? How is a neanderthal like you going to work out your countries problems when you don't even know what they are? You didn't even make one point in your argument. Calling Obama names doesn't count as a valid point.

    Notice how I spelled "Countries" cause the way you spelled it means "country is" retard. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" then come talk politics.

  • @cgord31 OK, you need to stop! I know you're stupid but now you're making it too obvious …look up the “possessive” form of country.

    Now since it appears you can’t understand simple grammar….I really don't have time to teach you the theories of Marxism or the principles of socialism, but, if you want to take a swing at it I’ll be happy to check your work. (there is a hint in my answer) Finally, you need to stay focused on your "country's" problems...I'm sure they're bigger than ours.

  • this girl had good points and could destroy this guy in a controlled debate where she had a chance to speak but she didn't know how to take control of the conversation. she kept letting this idiot tea partier spout his talking points and bullshit.

  • She didn't own him. He owned himself.

  • The Christian Coalition and the Heritage Foundation have been hard at work for over 20 years creating this conservative generation of morons.

  • Teapartiers are the reason why the US will be bankrupt in a decade or two.

    Without them, the plutocrats couldn't have done it!

  • @TheSkunkCat NO SHIT! Lets keep that memory alive. We should never forget what the teabaggers have done to our country.

  • Whoever is filming needs a wind screen on their mic.

  • Sad little man. Can't even see HE is the reason the USA is going down.

  • He doesnt say "who is karl marx" that was the camera man. And i think both of them look stupid, especially him.

  • what does his sign say?

  • @beezyb42011 His sign says "Liberalism is a disease"

  • LMFAOOOOOOO dude didnt even know who karl marx was!

    IM DONE!

    *logs off computer*

  • Didn't this guy go to high school?

  • what a moron.

  • That guy is an idiot... he drove on government built, "socialists" roadways to get to his anti-socialist protest. LOL - it's like the religious freaks who bash science while watching videos on their computers and texting on their cell phones....

  • One day i'll wake up, and everyone will be an educated atheist. Then i'll turn on the TV and find out that higher education and healthcare are now funded by the government like in other industrialized countries. The Tea Party will be atheists and they'll care about helping the needy, healthcare, education, and regulation to prevent wall street from screwing us again. They'll even treat homosexuals and minorities with respect. Sometimes I wonder where the world would be without religion. One day

  • "Define socialism"

    "Student loans. See ya later. Obama's takin' over."

    "Soooo... does that mean you don't know what socialism means?"

  • @Hannahdabeast Oh if you only would've seen the spat I got into with a bouncer at my local bar. He and I had an exchange very much like this. And I'm no Obama supporter. But he spouted a bunch of hollow talking points (Obama is a socialist, etc.) as one would expect. But everytime I got detailed and asked him to be detailed, he would get this grumpy face and have no answer. This is what happens when you ask for specifics, but they have none. Bringing a switch blade to the Russian Front.

  • People in the USA need an education.

  • Socialists aren't taking over, they can't even afford a wind sock for the microphone

  • I didn't know student loans were considered socialism. I'm pretty sure you have to pay those back lol.

  • Wow this dude had nothing better to do than parade this sign around even though he has no clue what it even means...that's sad.

  • That guy is a Limbaugh parrot!

  • @CoasterBeach you people don't get it......never will. only the weak hate the strong. those that can't succeed must blame it on those that do.If you don't have something it must be someone elses fault.. always have one hand open to take what is given and one in a fist to take it if it isn't. a country of takers instead of givers is what you want because it is harder to be better than the other guy than for everyone to be equally stupid and lazy.by the way teabaggers put balls in weaker mouths!

  • @yetitracker You republicans are so fukking dogshit on the foot stupid it is scary. You dont know fuk, you dont do fuk, you donat say fuk. Yer all a buncha inbread loudmouth half queer dripping bags of fuk

  • one punch....that uneducated, moronic, angry, flake would be silenced......

  • Its funny how ppl like dude in this video talk about a constitution, democracy, and fairness but that seems only to be a privilege extended toward americans and that we should throw the ideals we try and preach to others away when the sh*t hits the fan...i love my country but u have to look at both sides...

  • This guy's talking, but I hear him say nothing.

  • please somebody message me if a tea party rally is coming near dallas anytime soon, i want to go around punching people until my hand breaks

  • @MrTeddy236

    Dude, I'm in dallas, I would totally go with you.

  • neo-cons will always hold power as long as they can brainwash dumb asses who can't even define their beliefs -- like this idiot

  • "Automobile Industry...taken over" REALLY??

    The industry received a LOAN which is being paid back.

    "Studend Loans, free education"

    Do you even KNOW how a LOAN works, moron?

  • sounds like the only one on the crackpipe is this guy

  • @CoasterBeach " I'd bitch slap that annoying fuck and shut him up." Proving once again the violence comes FROM THE LEFT. PS any moron who calls Tea Party Members "tea baggers" IS A TEA BAGGEE.

  • I can't believe this moron. All of these tea partiers can't convince me that if a catastrophic incident occured unto them that they wouldn't accept Medicare because their health insurance had dropped them and they'd decline any other government assistance because they didn't want to pass that debt on to the next generation due to the fact that "socialistic" behaviors are to blame for the Ills in this country.

  • You know someone doesn't know what they're talking about when they counter your question with another abstract question (let alone don't let you finish your sentence).

  • How they get tea partiers is this. They go to a trailer park, find the guy with a rot out pickup truck with the exhaust hanging and the confederate flag on his house and go to his door and offer him free meals and a bus trip and a little spending cash if he'll get on the bus and if they hear "y'alls are great I's a loves Bush and Dem there republicans" and "cans I brings my shotgun along" then they know they've got their man.

  • "Automobile industry, taken over"?

    The industry was SAVED and paying back the bail out.

    "Student loans, let's pay for eveyone to go to school"?

    We PAY BACK our student loans.

    It's such a shame when a moron tries to argue facts with his misinformed opinions.

  • "Lets pay for everyone to go to school"

    "Lets pay for everyone's healthcare"

    "Lets pay for everyone's welfare"

    Yep and then you might join the rest of the civilised nations of the world.

    And if the above had happened then you would have known who Karl Marx was you dumb fuck!

  • Tea Baggers omit one key fact. Karl Marx had a GREAT theory for government. He also knew that human nature would kill it every time. Frankly, Marx would roll over in his grave if he thought what's happening in our country right now was based from it.

  • Fool got owned. Personally I hope he breaks a leg so that when he's in the hospital, looking at his Hospital Bills, he'll start crying cause he can't afford to pay them.

  • You Know who His Mentor's were?! Karl Marx, Ossama Bin Ladin, Hitler, Attila The Hun, and Of Course Satan, C'mon Guy's Let him Go, Youre Gonna Make Him Late For His Short Bus!Lets Keep Drinking the Fox KoolAid, Kumbaya!

  • Does that guy have a fucking comb-over? Freaky looking cunt.

  • That guys in BRAIN washed and uneducated. What an idiot! he can;t answer any question because he keeps name calling as soon as the intelligent girl ask a legitimate question! This guy and so many like him do not like Obama because he is black and they are RACIST00plain and simple. Dirty truth is that these guys feel feel a lack of power and need to down other to feel like men they will never be. Too many of these racist Tea party folks are just like this nasty man. GIRL PWNED HIM

  • This guy is the reason us Europeans call Americans dumb, ill informed, illiterate, backward, warmongers, hypocrites and most of all.......suckers!!!

    Your govt pumps you with a bit of fear, unjustified fear, manufactured fear, and yous are all waving flags and singing anthems. Thats what cowards do. A patriot calls his govt to account, whether he voted for them or not. Too many Americans loyalties lie with their party instead of their country and have the nerve to claim the opposite!!

  • @educate1self The problem is their are too many like him. They believe in fear which stands for false enemy appearing real. 

  • @Mr30scratch You got that right. How do you think Bush got reelected!

  • @RivaWitch Another reason why Bush got re-elected was a fake Bin-Laden threat video.

  • whats wrong with socialism? People who understand how the economy functions laugh there ass off at teabaggers. Take one class of economics buddy, i liked to see the tea party guys in the class whine and get spanked even when they got to present their wacky arguments.

  • @LordoftheJamesClan Socialism promotes laziness.

  • We ARE the government. How many people vote in this country? 25%? It's not the gov't we need to woory about, it's the people running it. As for the media, the actual term is "advertising media". It's bought and paid for by corporations. TV is not a window to the world, it's a constant stream of commercial advertisements with occasionally entertaining "programming" inbetween. These corporations are poised to take over the world, and they're using gov'ts to do it. THAT should scare you.

  • Everyone in custody is suspected of terrorism. Only three terrorists have been water boarded, and they gave up vital info that saved lives. Terrorists do not have civilian rights, do they? He's right, Obama is a total socialist. Look at his record. Read his books! He's 100% black socialist. "Who's Karl Marx?" You gotta be kidding me. Obama only opens his mouth to lie and demonize those who disagree (accusation of hostage taking is a recent example).

  • @spankula123 We've been a socialist country since the 1930's. Ever hear of minimum wage, child labor laws, or medicare?

  • @BearsBulls341 And welfare, affirmative action, and a million other high cost/low yield programs that have never worked. Every liberal program is a giant under the table cash grab for cronies.

  • @BearsBulls341 Having social programs doesn't equal socialism. EVERY modern industrialized nation has at least some social programs. Don't like child labor laws? You want ten year-old boys working in coal mines and ten year-old girls making tennis shoes?

  • @greenthumbguy1 Socialized health care, banks, auto industry, insurance companies is not "some social programs."

  • @spankula123 The US doesn't HAVE socialized healthcare, banks, auto industry, or insurance companies, not even close. As I said before, you don't know what socialism is, and I'm guessing you've never been outside the US. Obama has done more to help corporate America than any other group.

  • @greenthumbguy1 Anything the gubm't takes over becomes socialized. It can undercut private competition, make it's own rules, waive itself from complying with regulations, etc. Obama has helped corp. America? I think you have a screw loose.

  • @spankula123 The government hasn't taken over anything. Talk about a loose screw. TARP bailed out the banks, GM avoided bankruptcy, CARS stimulated auto-sales. Doesn't sound socialistic to me. You should be more afraid of Monsanto than you are of the government.

  • @greenthumbguy1 Uh, okay. You have your CNN talking points down, but your facts are all backward. You may not know what government takeover means. Either way, we're not on the same plane, so gently lower your head back into the media trough and go back to sleep.

  • @spankula123 Government takeover means just that. TAKEOVER. What has the US taken over? Hint~regulation is not a takeover. Stop being so paranoid of the gov't. We're not on the same plane because your world view comes from a carefully crafted and executed propaganda machine.

  • @greenthumbguy1 You don't get it, and you never will. You've bought and paid for the lie. When four networks use the same wording the same minute of the same hour, be scared. You're the one in the propaganda machine, friend. Language changes slowly. Rights come from government, there not just in you as the DOI states. That's straight from Elena Kagen. Government is your friend, don't be so "paranoid." This is how Hitler took over. If the Gubm't buys a company with tax funds, that's a takeover.

  • @spankula123 If obama were a socialist or communist, he would have let the banks fail and let GM go under. You either don't know what socialism is, or don't care to learn. Get real, Obama is center-right at best.

  • @greenthumbguy1 On the contrary, a capitalist would would let them fail. If you think Obama is center-right, then you're beyond help my friend.

  • @spankula123 hello mr mc carthy

  • Ahhhhhh........ right wingers!

  • its a crappy regurgitation of what glenn beck always says

  • When you start questionig their blind beliefs. they go into berzerk mode.

  • Why even bother engaging with people like this? It's a lost cause.

  • This guy is a little confused.

  • haha republican teabaggers are absolute fucking morons unamerican pieces of SHIT

    ILLITERATE TEABAGGER CLOWN TOTALLY OWNED AND OWNED AND OWNED AND OWNED AND OWNED

  • haha republican teabaggers are absolute fucking morons unamerican pieces of SHIT

  • he's right about the salt though. what the fuckl is wrong with these crackers?

    right on abaddon5....well said my fellow citizen

  • When I hear fucks like this, first I get mad because of how stupid they are. Then I laugh at how stupid they are. Then I get scared because most Americans are this stupid.

  • DOUCEBAG

  • This ignorance hurts my brain.

    There is no conspiracy. No president is superior to another.

    Commies ane NOT socialists.

    Soldiers get health care because we ironically see it as a moral obligation.

  • USA= capitalism. CHINA= communism. Who owns money to whom?

  • @927719 Haha, good one!

  • Glenn Beck's influence is really started to rot brains.

    I got serious douche chills listening to that moron make a fool of himself.

  • You shouldn't trouble these people with facts, they get defensive.

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  • @PeaceJustice4ever They get defensive when you even approach them... Which means you can't even discuss with them...

  • Ignorant douche baggers. They're mad, but they don't know what they're mad at. 

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  • That right wing hick just got owned big time!

  • If these tea partiers are Christian, then they'd be shocked to hear that their lord and savior was basically a socialist(Luke: 18,18-30).

  • Bush had a budget surplus, usa was in debt then! Dine socialism= taking from some to give to others. socialist programs in this country social security, government jobs, tax system, health care, schools..... this country is very socialist and Obama wants more.

  • The guy holding the sign couldn't find a stick for his sign because it's up his ass.

  • dude clearly does not know what socialism is!! I guess he is against or has no need for the united states postal service, local law enforcement, public library, public schools, and the list goes on and on.

  • Miller in AK used government computers to sabotage a political opponent; In Maine, LePage's wife faces tax fraud charges in two states; O'Donnell had an 11k Tax lien on her home and used campaign funds to pay her mortgage; Palin and her ethics violations; Rand Paul's statements that he's in favor of repealing the 1965 civil rights act. Seriously. Did the Tea Party post ads on Craig's List looking for the most ethically challenged people in America?

  • ROFL!! I know these people are stupid, but I am pretty sure this guy thinks that Karl Marx was a neo-liberal US Senator from the Cold War era. What a noob.

  • Damned wind.

  • If this was taking place in a park, she should have mentioned that a public park is paid for BY SOCIALISM. In fact, so is a pubic library, and I'm sure he wouldn't like for those to be taken away lol. Any free public service to a city or community for enjoyment is paid for by the tax payers via the government through socialized spending....what a loon that guy is lol.

  • Some people are just generally pissed off and full of hate. For them, there is the "Tea Party Movement."

  • "Define socialism" "Y'knowitslikethesocialismstud­entloansandtheMarxistsIgottawo­rktwojobsbutyouwannasmokeacrac­kpipenothankyou!" "Sir...could you please define what socialism is?" "Countrygoindownthetubescuzthe­socialistliberalmedialazypeopl­egonnatellmeIgotta.." "Sir...can you define socialism? Are you capable of defining it?"

    Ahhh, another Fox News viewer full of piss and vinegar but no education. Sad.

  • doubleplusgood for the progressives in this video, and for whomever posted it.

    that said, each and every one of us whom considers him or herself a progressive needs to extend their criticism inward. Teabagger douchetards like these are tapping into legitimate concerns that the left scoff at from ivory towers. Lets get busy.

  • Ugg Obama isn't a socialist...

  • this makes me genuinely worried for americas future... luckily i'm australian though!

  • "Student loans. See ya later. Obama's taking over."

    Oh yeah? Well, banana hat. Moon landing. Springs on my shoes. Pubic hair.

  • @DaGanjaSamurai LOL The wind is NOT in the buffalo!  The plane has crashed into the mountain!

    "Help Help I'm being repressed! you saw him repressing me, you saw it, didn't you?"

  • Obama is a socialist? Apparently, you have never traveled outside of the USA. Retard.

    Great, check out CNN apparently another one of the Tea Party nutjobs just shot up an elementary school in California.

  • @GOPSUX100 I lived in Socialist France for 16 years, Obama is making us a socialist country.

  • @dijhili "lived in Socialist France for 16 years" it took you that long to escape from their death camps and totalitarian police force!?? you poor soul, oh the hard ships you must have endured...

    Don't they have like 35 hour work weeks and mandatory 5 week vacas once a year over there? I haven't had a vacation since I got out of school... sounds like Obama needs to make this into a socialist country... to bad he's not doing a good job of it.

  • @geoffpot It was fantastic...unless of course you are the one paying the massive taxes or waiting around in the horrible health care system. I was a kid then so I did not know any better.

    Yea they do vacation a lot which is nice. It's not the socialism that allows for that, its the fact they get paid quite well over there.....

  • @dijhili "I was a kid then so I did not know any better." oh..

    "waiting around in the horrible health care system" I've done that here... our health care system is only good if you've got unlimited money or some bad-ass insurance(like the stuff they give high-risk workers)

  • @geoffpot not like they do there....they wait a loooong time. In Britain they actually have a lottery system. My insurance is fantastic, love it! If you think the DMV is inefficient then wait till they take health care! But that is never going to happen! Thank God for November

  • @dijhili "they wait a loooong time." clearly that's not always the case(well maybe in france...) I've heard many people say they got great care in a decent time. were you frequenting the doctor when you where 16?

    "you think the DMV is inefficient" Well.. no it's not really "inefficient", they service hundreds of millions of drivers every year... if you make an appointment and go at an off time you normally have a short wait.

    Post office works pretty damn well too... as do our libraries.

  • @geoffpot the post office,USPS, is $2 Billion in the whole. Libraries are closing due to the internet.

    Only foreigners get treatment fast, the locals are screwed.

  • @dijhili "$2 Billion in the whole" well yeah, we don't send mail anymore lol... and It wouldn't surprise me if we phased it out completely since we don't really need letters anymore since we all just e-mail, either that or set it up to just do packages or maybe be a b2b service for the private carriers(doing either the local or long-distance part)

    Point being that the system has worked quite well for us.

    "Libraries are closing due to the internet." irrelevant to the point of them working..

  • @dijhili "My insurance is fantastic" good for you... I hope it stays that way for ya... I don't have any, so I guess I'm just fucked...

    So do you think our healthcare system is just super? or do you admit that we need to fix this shit...

  • Obama is a socialist? Apparently, you have never traveled outside of the USA. Retard.

  • he gives the accent a bad name.

  • Check out The Young Turks piece on this rally. I think just about everyone at the Tea Party rally protesting government healthcare and handouts, receives government run health care and welfare. Hypocrities, lying dirtbags - worst of humanity. This is how the Third Reich got started, people blaming minorites for their own screwed up lives, get a job, educate yourself, damn it do something productive and STOP WHINING! Crybabies.

  • The tea party is a joke. If their message was ONLY about cutting spending and ending deficits and balancing the budget, I'd be all for it. But the "movement" has grown into such a ridiculous mishmash of birthers, jackasses, radicals on social policy, and all-around idiots. Just look at their star candidates! Not a single one is consistent on limited gov't or even talks about the military-industrial complex seriously. They're just Republicans who "actually care about spending."

  • @whoo689 Does anyone with a brain REALLY think the tea party is either consistent on spending or will actually have its candidates seriously cut spending down to sensible levels and balance the budget? You're dreaming! Once another Republican gets into power after Obama, the tea partiers will be back in Ignorance Land, pretending like "deficits don't matter" and letting THEIR party run amuck when it comes to spending and budgets. They did it for 8 years under Bush.

  • @whoo689 If the teabaggers truly cared about big spending, they would've said something during Bush's tenure. The fact that they remained completely silent says A LOT. Nobody "woke up" to spending just because Obama got in power; they did it BECAUSE a Democrat was now doing the spending, rather than one of their own. What a load of crap.

    The teabaggers are as Republican as they come. They may claim "we hate both parties", but all their nominees this year ARE REPUBLICANS!

  • @whoo689 Not even a single Constitution or Libertarian Party candidate. Or even a conservative Democrat.

  • @whoo689 The tea party is bought and paid for by groups like Americans for Prosperity, Koch Industries, the GOP and other right-wing think-tanks and PACs. They're not "grassroots". They just THINK they are. They're as controlled and brainwashed as they come.

    It's just that they speak LOUDER than the opposition, so their voice, in some people's eyes (esp. the GOP), seems to be much more important or substantial than it really is. They yell and scream at town halls and other chaotic bs.

  • @whoo689 and you are bought by and paid for by moveon.org, george soros, AARP, unions, just to name a few.

    Yell and scream, have you never seen a union meeting? hehehe

  • @whoo689 But most of all, THEY'RE UNINFORMED! They opposed a healthcare law which, frankly, they have no idea about! It's 2700 pages, but if you ask teabaggers, you'd get the impression that it was just ONE page that basically said "All people in the U.S. will get free healthcare from a totally gov't-run system with no private doctors, hospitals and other providers, and there will be no choice at all."

  • @whoo689 It's 2300 pages.Kind of funny from someone who is soooo informed!

  • have you ever seen a smart conservative yet? You probably wont. You can tell he is a dumbfuck, he dont know shit about socialism but then again ,he is a conservative. They are all like that.

  • no history lesson .pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,pusssssss­ssssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.got owned by a girl .

  • I guess this guy was homeschooled or something. Or a high school dropout. I mean, what she's asking isn't fancy stuff, it is very basic knowledge. He should be ashamed of himself. If you're talking politics you should at least know what you're talking about.

  • First of all, I congratulate you on being the first person bold enough to respond to my irony. But... Walk up to a doctor with a gun and force him to work for free?????

    Drama queen! You obviously don't understand how it works. No, the doctors do not work for free. They still make an excellent living. I don't know who told you that but you need to do your own research, from a non-biased source. I can't be the one to educate you, not enough space.

  • YOUR WRONG there i said it. YOU FUCKING DUMBASS , why dont you find out what your talking about, hell why dont you take a high school world government class and find out what socialism is you stupid fucktard, my god this is your plan to repaeat your same aruguement over and over. Someones been taking lesson from Sarah Palin.

  • USA is getting more ignorant by the day no wonder why their economy is in the guter this idiot doesnt realise it

  • STOP WATCHING BLEN BECK!

  • Health care bad!

    When it came time for Jesus to heal the sick he should have said: You crack smokin' Marxists!

    this teabagger is a parrot. He thinks it would be good for the economy if everybody got sick.

    It would be irony if some guy with the plague (and no health insurance) coughed on him. Then he might change his mind, because then it affects him.

  • @oalemdemadrid Jesus would heal the sick, he didn't walk up to a doctor with a gun and force him to work for free. Charity is only charity when it's voluntary.

  • @megagagnon1 He didn't kill doctors who performed abortions either. But he did collect money from the well off and gave it to the poor. Oh yeah, he didn't charge for his healing services either.

  • @greenthumbguy1 He encouraged charity, yes, and so do i. Private charities and charity hospitals do a much better and more efficient job than the government. People choose to give their time and money, that's why charity is a virtue. Government coercion, collecting taxes at the point of an IRS gun, and dispensing "charity" to the poor is not true charity and not virtuous. Jesus wouldn't approve of IRS jackbooks and prison cells.

  • Well, Jesus isn't real, so bye bye to your argument.

  • @pbmdh You're real short bus material, bubba. And how would you know who i was referring to, genius? Jesus is the name of the guy that mows my lawn.

  • /facepalm

  • @megagagnon1 Wow, racist much?

  • @megagagnon1 "Render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasar's..." In other words, pay your damn taxes!! No one likes to pay taxes but you know, we all enjoy the benefits of living in the US, and contrary to what the Teabaggers would have us think, it is in pretty damn good shape. I dare you to take a trip outside the US and look around the world a little bit.

  • @greenthumbguy1 Ceasar used the tax monies to pay his army, to pay his bureaucrats. He didn't have any charity scheme, so Jesus was not referring to helping the poor when he said that. The US is in pretty good shape? Keep drinking the kool-aid, the national debt and the unfunded entitlements are so far in the red - well there's nobody on the planet that'll bail us out. Ugly things, including food riots, will eventually happen, it's only a question of when.

  • @megagagnon1 I know he wasn't. But pay your damn taxes. Compared to the rest of the world, the US is in great shape. You know the financial meltdown didn't just happen here, it was global. Have some faith in your country! There is no way anything like socialism will ever happen here, even the gov't is to great degree controlled by huge corporations.

  • @megagagnon1 "When I was naked, you clothed me. When I was hungry you gave me food..." "Sell everything you own, give it to the poor and follow me." On and on and on. Jesus was the ultimate liberal. I'm surprised the GOP and Fox News haven't figured out a way to edit those passages out of the bible. They HAVE figured out how to re-write history text books. Talk about drinking the kool-aid. You folks don't even understand your own prophet anymore...

  • @greenthumbguy1 You're confusing charity with socialism. Rich men can and do give millions of dollars to charities (except for the rich chinese - i guess the bible isn't popular in their culture). Socialism is like alcohol - a little bit makes you feel good and doesn't do much harm. Obama wants us to guzzle a gallon of Night Train.

  • @megagagnon1 Chinese people don't give money to charity? Before you throw the word socialism around, you should know what it is. There are MANY types of socialism. Most, if not all countries in the world are a hybrid of capitalism and socialism. The US has social programs, but nothing like true socialism, and will NEVER become a socialist or communist nation. We are a corporate oligarchy. Obama is nowhere near a leftist. Anywhere else in the world he'd be called center-right.

  • @greenthumbguy1 Obama is steeped in marxism, and the only way to label him center right is to ignore one obvious fact - he's as left as america will allow him to be, actually they're rebelling against what he's done so far. If he was unfettered by such realities, his policies would be much farther left.

  • @megagagnon1 Oh come on! A marxist would have let GM and the banks fail, and nationalized BP. Democrats, liberals and progressives are upset that he hasn't done enough.

  • @greenthumbguy1 And he wouldn't have gotten support in the senate or congress for that, and it wouldn't have happened. And explain exactly how you nationalize a multinational like BP? Ignoring the fact that it would destroy our trade relations.

  • @megagagnon1 Ask Venezuela, they've already nationalized 11 American oil rigs there. You're right the congress and senate wouldn't have supported letting the industries fail. See? Were in no danger of a socialist take over. The US is working exactly the way it's supposed to...

  • @greenthumbguy1 We are in danger of being destroyed by a government that spends too much. It keeps growing and growning - i would call it incrementalism, but the pace is getting too fast to call it that. You aren't concerned about the size and scope of the government? Then you're not paying attention.

  • @megagagnon1 We live in a corporate oligarchy. I do understand and agree with you on a few things, I'm not arguing just to argue. But don't cry socialism. That's the meme being used by the corporate owned media. The US, perhaps the world, is in grave danger of being taken over by corporations that don't give a damn wether you live or die, as long as they make a profit in the process. The republican party is the harbinger of this crusade. I'm not an Obama fan either, but he is not a socialist...

  • @greenthumbguy1 Corporations depend upon the power and largesse of the federal government to thrive. The government makes laws that favor corporations over those pesky small businesses which would normally be competitors. And Obama is beating down those small businesses for the sake of the corporations just like Bush did, and i agree with you in that realm. But Obama is a marxist, and as a marxist he's trying to destroy this country from within.See "Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis"

  • @megagagnon1 Well we can agree to diagree on the whole "Obama is trying to destroy this country from within" BS. Why would he want to do that?

  • @greenthumbguy1 I've messaged you an article on the "why" - the Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis".

  • @megagagnon1 I don't buy it for a minute. Neither socialism nor communism can happen in a country that is so mat