He could have just waited to have sex until the time was right, not when he can telepathically watch people being executed while background middle east music is being played on his cassette player. That plus he had a really bad urinary tract infection at the time so it hurt really bad. It was all just really bad timing.
"ohh muslims-we jews are women and you are raping our ass.oh god we jews are so poor." I hope one day we muslims will achieve to exterminate your faggot people your faggot state and your faggot nation. fuck you ugly jews.
ohhh......I know jews are faggots but I could not guess they would went so far to express it. faggot jews blame all the killings on earth to normal sexual men. big agititiation movie of homosexuals jews. we started war on muslims also war on non-femine normal sexual men and their ways -thoughts etc... muslims are non homosexual so they are our enemies. waaooooohhh....disgusting jews, nation of faggots.
What is supposed to be one of the most touching scenes in the history of cinema, is screwed up here in this video : The suffering of a mossad agent, the feelings of anger & the will to revenge & the cruelty of war are shown in a very creative way.
Its semantics really. The UN created Israel after WWII. And who created the UN? The USA and Britain. (Even before that the UN was called the League of Nations, proposed by Woodrow Wilson.) So of course the UN would vote along the lines of its founders, the US and UK, in their push to create Israel. Israel also has nuclear weapons. Guess who provided them these weapons? The USA of course. Maybe the US didnt DIRECTLY create Israel, but its all semantics. So, am I insane? Get a fuckin' edubacation.
The Israelis build their own nuclear bombs - The Americans didn't know about that until the 80's - Actually Jews (and Zionists) Like Oppenheimer & Einstein & and other Jewish scientists build the bombs for the USA
I actually laughed out loud in the theatre when I saw this part because it was so extreme. It's sad from the PTSD perspective, but there's something kinda weird about his sweaty orgasm to the bullets flying. Kinda made me question what people think about when they climax.
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yawn jews jews jews, you're never gonna hear the end of it editor because theres few enough of them to be a minority but their wealthy and self righteous enough to take full advantage of minority status. kudos on the video, it really takes some of the sheen off that douchebag spielberg's attempt to garner even more sympathy for his own pathetic people.
You edited it to make it funnier? You really are an idiot. This is extremely SAD actually. It's not creepy and definitely not funny. You're a sad immature idiot.
Stupid Germans, they botched up the rescue mission. They were probably still heavily anti-semitic themselves seeing the war ended just 27 years before.
Not really, these were the days before Germany developed GSG9 counterterrorist units. The Munich massacre taught the more developed countries of the world a valuable lesson in preparedness. No one had ever dealt with a crisis like what was happening in Munich. In today's climate those Germans are quite good at dealing with terrorist situations. American and British counterterrorist units have sought their advise on several occasions.
The way you've edited hasn't translated the message this scene was trying to get across. No matter what he did, where he went (even in the most intimate private moments of love with his wife) the assasin couldn't rid himself of the images of the murdered victims.
Another example of German incompetence, and IMO the first sex scene is creepier than this one when hes screwing her when shes heavily pregnant, fuckin foul as fuck
Hello, this is the original poster of this video...
Wow guys, you really responded in force with some interesting takes on this video. Yes, its clear I edited the sex scene, I even said so in my description.
The scene clearly displays more than just the facts...Do you remember Michael de Focault? his philosophy on the two main driving forces of human conduct being sex and blood could answer and deepen many ideas of you out there...just a tought ;-)
I laugh more at the absurdity than at the pain displayed. I think it is funny just how badly those pieces fit. also, the instant replays, but I am actually pro Israel
I thought it was a powerful scene of the movie and Fishman is way out of line in saying that about Jews. Spielberg was trying to show how much what Avner has done has affected him. You guys need to grow up, there was nothing funny about that scene!
Yea, but only saw it on tv, no one can have post traumatic stress disorder unless they actually live the experience. He never witnessed the israelis getting shot, which was very confusing as to why it would live with him for the rest of his life.
2441990 and RoyCampbell333 you two really are a prime example of the scum on societies shoes these days. Your blatant ignorance sickens me. Good logic to, 9/11 terrorists were muslim so then all muslims must be terrorists. Oh and most muslims are of arabic descent so naturally all arabic people must be muslims too. Well that makes all arabic people evil doesnt it. Well done you two.
the end of this movie was really wierd. y in hell is he thinking about death and violence while fucking humping the hell out of his wife. For god sake you can see him ejaculating at :30. disgusting and wierd
i agree. to simply say violence begets violence is too easy violence and therefore it is not an appropriate response. Israel is faced with a set of realities and has a difficult and sometimes unpalatable set of choices, but turning the other cheek or otherwise displaying weakness cannot be one of them. that last sex scene is distasteful and awkward.
i don't think either "jews" or "arabs" should be wiped out, honestly...jews is religion, arabs is race....now if u people mean muslims, ok...still, not all muslims and not all jews are the same...im sure a good and real religion doesn't preach hatred...and real jews don't support zionism :)
Are you one of those ignorant thoughtless morons that just sit on their asses and don't even know history books exist??? it was NOT JUST ARABS!!!! those like YOU deseve being hated, 'cos although ur 44 (if that's true, which i doubt) you are just an ordinary hater or a looser trained to work for republicans. besides, i doubt that u can even show arabic countries on the map. people like you are just a shame - nothing more. go and read some clever books, u idiot.
n' u lil cockfuck, nasty dick, what u know about hate n' the arabs??!! y do u think for centuries ppl hated the jews!! its obviouse, they gotta be wiped out n' we need new gas chambers !!
I thought it was kinda wierd too but it only made the film scarier...ofcourse i never ever thought of making fun of it because in films like this you can never take anything for face value. This is nothing to laugh about since none of you have gone through the same thing this character has.
christ has existed and he's not dead,someday u gonna be sorry for what u're saying,peace be upon moise jesus and mohammed aaaaalllllll god's prophets and messenger
Its funny because he is having sex with his wife while thinking about gruesome murders, two things which do not go together and simply do not make sense in the movie. Plus, right as he cums he thinks about worst part of the murders and he is sweating and screaming and it looks so stupid and hilarious!
I can't believe some people are mad at this AND actually think the scene is good.
The fuck are you all smoking? It's hilariously bad.
DeathtoRaiden1 1 month ago
He could have just waited to have sex until the time was right, not when he can telepathically watch people being executed while background middle east music is being played on his cassette player. That plus he had a really bad urinary tract infection at the time so it hurt really bad. It was all just really bad timing.
Rammagith 1 month ago
Its a bad attempt at editing.
BlackMind83 4 months ago
raining while having sex and screaming ? ... Yea thats wired. but the movie was very good.
hax0rl33t2 4 months ago
this isn't funny, in that the events actually happened... But Eric Bana's face is funny especially at 0:46 - 0:54...you gotta admit.
Macoronox 4 months ago
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"ohh muslims-we jews are women and you are raping our ass.oh god we jews are so poor." I hope one day we muslims will achieve to exterminate your faggot people your faggot state and your faggot nation. fuck you ugly jews.
Igotangry 5 months ago
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Igotangry 5 months ago
ohhh......I know jews are faggots but I could not guess they would went so far to express it. faggot jews blame all the killings on earth to normal sexual men. big agititiation movie of homosexuals jews. we started war on muslims also war on non-femine normal sexual men and their ways -thoughts etc... muslims are non homosexual so they are our enemies. waaooooohhh....disgusting jews, nation of faggots.
Igotangry 5 months ago
i know the movie covers a serious issue, but this is ridiculous and funny
Odysseus087 9 months ago
this video is bad and you should feel bad
CtlBrandon 10 months ago
seriously, this scene was the most weird one ever seen
ExhibitMan 11 months ago
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Igotangry 1 year ago
Lol, god people, get a sense of humor, you old farts.
XvxBERSERKxvX 1 year ago
you're getting so much critizism that I think you deserve some nice words too for your work. Well done man.
halfcolombian72 1 year ago
You're an asshole.
nwilliams111121 1 year ago
@nwilliams111121
and?
andyzohoury 1 year ago
beautiful touching scene, not creepy at all
esthile 1 year ago
@esthile LOL, I wonder what his wife is thinking through all this.
LeCreuset05 7 months ago
@LeCreuset05
:) well, i guess she could never emagine exactly what he has been through...
maybe she was thinking of nothing... just loved her hubby
5LOX 7 months ago
What is supposed to be one of the most touching scenes in the history of cinema, is screwed up here in this video : The suffering of a mossad agent, the feelings of anger & the will to revenge & the cruelty of war are shown in a very creative way.
hassannn75 1 year ago
ew...
DrGolgi 1 year ago
wow whoever edited this... u just ruined a great scene in a movie
possibly my favorite scene in a film. thanks
killingjoke99 2 years ago 10
you must be joking, and youre welcome
andyzohoury 2 years ago
@andyzohoury
he wasn't joking. this was terrible. what was the point of editing that scene besides showing your complete ineptitude at it?
jacleu27 2 years ago 2
@jacleu27
Nooooo.... What would I ever do without you?
andyzohoury 2 years ago
was this scene cut? cause i dont remember it.
IamJacksColon4 2 years ago
Talk about gratuitous. Meh, it was kind of awkward watching this with the family.
gremlin05 2 years ago
No, not gratuitous; it's actually very telling of his character's coping mechanism, etc
thesummonedmuse 2 years ago
He kill even the woman he loving too! Death by rough love
Yeppr 2 years ago
You guys are awesome, are you discussing politics on THIS video page?
the CREEPY SEX SCENE video prompts a POLITICAL DEBATE.
you guys are very political arent you? your so political, you cant go for a second without being political.
"hey, hand me that jar."
"wait a second, let me be political about it first, dear."
B)
zegh8578 2 years ago
i'll kick all of your asses
JackStraw7988 2 years ago
i loled
chrisdavidi 2 years ago
andyzohoury, that's an INCREDIBLY LOOSE connection. INCREDIBLY LOOSE. THE U.N. in no way can be a direct representation of the United States.
dunnowy123 3 years ago
Dude, the US did not create Israel, are you insane?
dunnowy123 3 years ago 4
Its semantics really. The UN created Israel after WWII. And who created the UN? The USA and Britain. (Even before that the UN was called the League of Nations, proposed by Woodrow Wilson.) So of course the UN would vote along the lines of its founders, the US and UK, in their push to create Israel. Israel also has nuclear weapons. Guess who provided them these weapons? The USA of course. Maybe the US didnt DIRECTLY create Israel, but its all semantics. So, am I insane? Get a fuckin' edubacation.
andyzohoury 3 years ago 2
The Israelis build their own nuclear bombs - The Americans didn't know about that until the 80's - Actually Jews (and Zionists) Like Oppenheimer & Einstein & and other Jewish scientists build the bombs for the USA
c9dw2rm8 3 years ago
So American jews are jews first american second?
IamJacksColon4 2 years ago
@andyzohoury
the UN cant create israel, it can just give it legitimacy, and admit it as areal country.
the actual creating of the country was done by fanatical jews i.e zionists backed up by britain feeling guilty right after ww2 it.
it was later the US because its main ally instead of britain.
hatemf23 1 year ago
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@dunnowy123
the UN cant create israel, it can just give it legitimacy, and admit it as areal country.
the actual creating of the country was done by fanatical jews i.e zionists backed up by britain feeling guilty right after ww2 it.
it was later the US because its main ally instead of britain.
hatemf23 1 year ago
I totally agree with who posted this.
I actually laughed out loud in the theatre when I saw this part because it was so extreme. It's sad from the PTSD perspective, but there's something kinda weird about his sweaty orgasm to the bullets flying. Kinda made me question what people think about when they climax.
jane4justice 3 years ago
it is a very stupid scene for the fact that he never witnessed it. then again the whole movie was a mess
d2eux 3 years ago
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yawn jews jews jews, you're never gonna hear the end of it editor because theres few enough of them to be a minority but their wealthy and self righteous enough to take full advantage of minority status. kudos on the video, it really takes some of the sheen off that douchebag spielberg's attempt to garner even more sympathy for his own pathetic people.
demonic88 3 years ago
You edited it to make it funnier? You really are an idiot. This is extremely SAD actually. It's not creepy and definitely not funny. You're a sad immature idiot.
jdinerw00t 3 years ago 7
you really think this is funny huh? you sick bastard!
leorimando 3 years ago 3
Stupid Germans, they botched up the rescue mission. They were probably still heavily anti-semitic themselves seeing the war ended just 27 years before.
deep71483 3 years ago
Not really, these were the days before Germany developed GSG9 counterterrorist units. The Munich massacre taught the more developed countries of the world a valuable lesson in preparedness. No one had ever dealt with a crisis like what was happening in Munich. In today's climate those Germans are quite good at dealing with terrorist situations. American and British counterterrorist units have sought their advise on several occasions.
Lex5576 3 years ago 2
what a way to have a orgasm
brucelee7525 3 years ago
"you won't like me when i'm angry."
itszeebaybee 3 years ago 12
i wonder how big that part gets
philphie 3 years ago
The way you've edited hasn't translated the message this scene was trying to get across. No matter what he did, where he went (even in the most intimate private moments of love with his wife) the assasin couldn't rid himself of the images of the murdered victims.
QueenAdele 3 years ago
It`s very touching the way his wife puts her hands over his eyes at end....
Tonxoo7 3 years ago
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its not much worse than the real movie.
as usual speilburg is a sick fuck.
sick demented fuck who thinks his movies represent reality
fauxnewsrules 3 years ago
u bastard Spielberg is the best director out there
xXHalo132Xx 3 years ago 3
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fuck islam!
Morgoth295 3 years ago
Islam and all the other religions scares the hell out of me cant belive that people are willing to do this because of what a book says.
The only peacefull religion I cant think of is Buddhism you dont hear about a Budhist blowing himself up in the name of Buddha.
WARP10CK 3 years ago
um be careful what you say. The Jewish community is very powerful. They gave Mark Zuckerberg his 15 billion dollar valuation.
Mercury888 3 years ago
not even buddhism, you heard whats going on in tibet!
Morgoth295 3 years ago
you mum is islam
danos999 3 years ago
That does not make any sense Islam is a religion NOT a person and btw my mom is a christian (even more dangerous)
WARP10CK 3 years ago
The editing sucks! That's just bullshit that you posted here. Funny? No...
queggy1 3 years ago 15
It's so unlike Spielberg to do a sex scene
zombiemonster 3 years ago
Very bad man!! you remember or you fuck..but not both things at the same moment!
kelillo 4 years ago 3
lol
Morgoth295 3 years ago
lol
berserkerk2dyv 3 years ago
whats the name of the music in the scene
kollajek 4 years ago
Baruch ABBA ba shen ADONAI
kyprosal1 4 years ago
this totally ruined the movie.. the sex scene i mean.. i mean c'mon, what the fuck
projectfarman 4 years ago 6
ya,lets make one about the palsten kids being killed by isreal troops,also
SomeFatGuy666 4 years ago 3
i agree. it totally killed da emotion 2 da israelis being killed. they coulda left that part with da guy fuckin his wife out.
nascar242083 4 years ago
not really
slayer5835 4 years ago
Grow up. You shouldn't have edited this.
This movie was amazing... and it isn't "funnier" with the editing...
ncarrasco90 4 years ago 7
this isnt funny...thats how all israeli zionists fuck cuz they are all on drugs
what a miserable population of gun loving murderers
aa2398a 4 years ago 2
Another example of German incompetence, and IMO the first sex scene is creepier than this one when hes screwing her when shes heavily pregnant, fuckin foul as fuck
OnionHead1988 4 years ago
lol,sure its sooo sad the jews got killed hehehehe,thats our incompetence for you
SomeFatGuy666 4 years ago
im not jewish but ur a racist degenerate.
Morgoth295 3 years ago 2
shut up...
SomeFatGuy666 3 years ago
Hello, this is the original poster of this video...
Wow guys, you really responded in force with some interesting takes on this video. Yes, its clear I edited the sex scene, I even said so in my description.
andyzohoury 4 years ago
fucking assholes! Israeli athletes was murdered in munich, and you laugh? such a idiots, yes and the uploader of this vid is idiot as well.
barakolo 4 years ago
Ha. A montage of people being shredded by bullets. Quite a kneeslapper there. What do you cut on, iMovie? You fucking hippie.
thereelghostbuster 4 years ago
I edit with pinnacle. You fucking douche.
andyzohoury 3 years ago
The scene clearly displays more than just the facts...Do you remember Michael de Focault? his philosophy on the two main driving forces of human conduct being sex and blood could answer and deepen many ideas of you out there...just a tought ;-)
uranio1 4 years ago 2
Killing is killing, if its "terror", counter terror, forced occupation or ocupation resistence. Isrealies do it everyday...
selaonline 4 years ago
and u can suck arab dick cus that is what u like to do.
metalfan8 4 years ago
I laugh more at the absurdity than at the pain displayed. I think it is funny just how badly those pieces fit. also, the instant replays, but I am actually pro Israel
umLunguUSA 4 years ago
I thought it was a powerful scene of the movie and Fishman is way out of line in saying that about Jews. Spielberg was trying to show how much what Avner has done has affected him. You guys need to grow up, there was nothing funny about that scene!
mzchampl 4 years ago
Damn, Eric Bana sure has some weird fantasies. Oh yeah! Israeli athletes getting murdered... OH OH OH!!!!!!! O-FACE!
Freepablo 4 years ago
L0L~!
Fayme20 4 years ago
Just your interesting quote "i cannot believe some of you are so ignorant as to believe in genocide."
d2eux 4 years ago
genocide is just another word maening the killing of one race of humans.
eminemRULEZ45 4 years ago
yea, the holocause wasnt genocide, it was just hitler trying to eradicate all the jews...i know what you mean.
d2eux 4 years ago
one of the strongest scences in the movie. The world has to understand how terror incorporates into people's life.
Meytallica 4 years ago
Yea, but only saw it on tv, no one can have post traumatic stress disorder unless they actually live the experience. He never witnessed the israelis getting shot, which was very confusing as to why it would live with him for the rest of his life.
d2eux 4 years ago
2441990 and RoyCampbell333 you two really are a prime example of the scum on societies shoes these days. Your blatant ignorance sickens me. Good logic to, 9/11 terrorists were muslim so then all muslims must be terrorists. Oh and most muslims are of arabic descent so naturally all arabic people must be muslims too. Well that makes all arabic people evil doesnt it. Well done you two.
Schlidawg 4 years ago
the end of this movie was really wierd. y in hell is he thinking about death and violence while fucking humping the hell out of his wife. For god sake you can see him ejaculating at :30. disgusting and wierd
littlpyrox 4 years ago
Ok so we get the point of this scene was that Spielberg was trying to communicate that terror lives on in peoples lives.
But really, that scene is so ridiculous. In the beginning hes so focused on thinking about the murders, its not depicted as visions he cant control.
d2eux 4 years ago
I can see that someone has recut the scene.
TesterPhillip 4 years ago
thats the biggest recorded orgasm in the history of mankind.
ppatel85 4 years ago
man this movie sucked big time!!!
heana 4 years ago
cause you are an ape
WeirdMrBilly 4 years ago
what does that mean?
heana 4 years ago
i agree. to simply say violence begets violence is too easy violence and therefore it is not an appropriate response. Israel is faced with a set of realities and has a difficult and sometimes unpalatable set of choices, but turning the other cheek or otherwise displaying weakness cannot be one of them. that last sex scene is distasteful and awkward.
d2eux 4 years ago
**It is too facile to simply say that violence begets violence and therefore it is not an appropriate response.**
d2eux 4 years ago
I would be very scared!
lol
lovewifey 4 years ago
what, does this guy get turned on by violence or something?!
catmister 4 years ago
lol
d2eux 4 years ago
yea i watche this when it came out last year
bklynmosmvp 4 years ago
I'm muslim.
ShutUpxFag 4 years ago
Dude... Is he like.. haveing sex while thinking about killing people...?
Yeah, thats fucking creepy.
PitchBlackSunrise 4 years ago
no man he's pumpin her full of lead with that machine lol
97thqoq 4 years ago
what in motherfickin hell was that
kevinvillaadmu 4 years ago
Speilberg is a pervert.
eluko79 4 years ago
at :52 that has got to be one of the biggest orgasms ever
coolfrenchguy 5 years ago
utter crap!
althia4466 5 years ago
And she's just like....I'm glad one of us enjoyed it HAHAHAAH...no matter how hard he pounds an inch and a half can only do so much
athelija 5 years ago
i think that this whole fight in the middle east is like women. they just love and have to have drama in their lives
ufc3548 5 years ago
i don't think either "jews" or "arabs" should be wiped out, honestly...jews is religion, arabs is race....now if u people mean muslims, ok...still, not all muslims and not all jews are the same...im sure a good and real religion doesn't preach hatred...and real jews don't support zionism :)
singinghope 5 years ago
i am jewish
thenotoriousadin 5 years ago
very creepy.
rasenganjerk 5 years ago
You shouldn't have edited this.
Rpkmann 5 years ago
uz r silly.. jesus isnt real
hershirt 5 years ago
You shouldn't have edited it...this movie was amazing. It kind of bugs me to see it edited to make it "funnier." =/
Sorry.
thekakihara 5 years ago
2 RoyCampbell333
Are you one of those ignorant thoughtless morons that just sit on their asses and don't even know history books exist??? it was NOT JUST ARABS!!!! those like YOU deseve being hated, 'cos although ur 44 (if that's true, which i doubt) you are just an ordinary hater or a looser trained to work for republicans. besides, i doubt that u can even show arabic countries on the map. people like you are just a shame - nothing more. go and read some clever books, u idiot.
aselasel 5 years ago
jews r hated by poor people and muslem cockfucks. nothin wrong with jews, arabs deserve to be hated though
RoyCampbell333 5 years ago
n' u lil cockfuck, nasty dick, what u know about hate n' the arabs??!! y do u think for centuries ppl hated the jews!! its obviouse, they gotta be wiped out n' we need new gas chambers !!
2441990 5 years ago
What has everyone got against jews? they're people too
seamonster777 5 years ago
he last justed over a minute... :/
iceyfresh57 5 years ago
christ has existed and he's not dead,peace be upon moise jesus and mohammed aaaaalllllll god's prophets and messenger
brownbeyonce 5 years ago
poor wife,lol,this rape not sex,lol lol lol lol
brownbeyonce 5 years ago
ahahahahahhahaha this was some what awkward to watch.
4RARcmdo 5 years ago
oops i meant Christ.
lianhanshee 5 years ago
andy my boy, sorry to say but God does exist. and nothing was funni.... until the screaming. its the editing!
lianhanshee 5 years ago
I thought it was kinda wierd too but it only made the film scarier...ofcourse i never ever thought of making fun of it because in films like this you can never take anything for face value. This is nothing to laugh about since none of you have gone through the same thing this character has.
disith 5 years ago
Why all the Jew hating?
boysshouldkiss 5 years ago
LOL
Snappeh 5 years ago
hmm.. who imagines bad stuff durin sex?
Hoisen 5 years ago
hey,what's this?
samuo6 5 years ago
FUCK THIS AND FUCK YOU !!
Hey who told that christ's dead??
STUPID IGNORANTS
and FUCK JEWS
fatalitydead 5 years ago
Christ isnt dead, he never existed
andyzohoury 5 years ago
yeah may be :D
fatalitydead 5 years ago
christ has existed and he's not dead,someday u gonna be sorry for what u're saying,peace be upon moise jesus and mohammed aaaaalllllll god's prophets and messenger
brownbeyonce 5 years ago
This isnt funny at all, its quite scary actually, perhaps a bit sentmental.
And Fishman 13, stop being an ignorant racist
jajceboy 5 years ago
HOW IS THIS FUNNY! STOP IT!
GIMMEORLANDO 5 years ago
Its funny because he is having sex with his wife while thinking about gruesome murders, two things which do not go together and simply do not make sense in the movie. Plus, right as he cums he thinks about worst part of the murders and he is sweating and screaming and it looks so stupid and hilarious!
andyzohoury 5 years ago
It is pretty hilarious. The whole movie is a waste of time, imo. Scenes like this remind me how bad it was.
dunnowy123 3 years ago 4
I don't really see what's so sick about it you just see him thinking about his murdered comrades while having sex...
And @ wish wtf does this has to do with the death of christ?
TheCommissarRed 5 years ago
This vid is so sick .. :( !
smirta 5 years ago
Ok... that proves that jews whithout a doubt killed christ the son of god.
Fishman13 5 years ago
That was SICK!! TAKE IT OFF!
MikeyC06 5 years ago
I remeber the movie it was good. But I don't remeber all of that happening in the sex scene. But I have to agree WTF?!
10splayer 5 years ago
wat a war.... that guy came from a bloody war!! hehehe
hexen12 5 years ago
that movie was sad :(
tacosucka 5 years ago
OMG What The Hell.
Afsheen7 5 years ago