When will these government idiots go after the record companies and managers that have been SCREWING the artists since the 50's with illegitimate record contracts? Nobody cares about the artists (that supply ALL of the productivity). How many Billions of dollars have artists been screwed out of in the 50 years BEFORE the existence of the internet? The internet is simply a tool with which NEW profits can be made. This is again, only about the top 1% (record companies) getting richer and richer.
hip hop is beautiful and other forms of sampling too.. mixing diffrent sounds together to make somethin that relates to us this day and age.. but they dont come from were we come from.. were we appriciate the little things we have to work with.. so fuck you mr i just want to make money of any fuckin thing.. fuckin fools..
Shock Gs Analogy Seems Legit but its NOT, The camera man would be creating his OWN work because he didnt go and copy the picture, he took it the picture with his favored angles and view not a very good analogy if you put some thougght into it.
But the problem is they dobnt say its a reinterpretation, i love rap and i love mixing, and creating something of something else, but these rappers wont do whats right, they act as if they made original creations, and are not willing to give royalties or credit to the true original creators.
@EmmanuelEstradaProd It will depend on the case. If you are making a cover and selling it you sure as hell should pay for it. But if you take a drum base or a guitar note im not sure you should pay. Afterall is not like these people have the rights of, say, the B minor note.
no they dont own the note but their performance is theirs and people shouldnt benefit from others creations by a click of a button, its not really a reinterpretation if its the exact same recording
@EmmanuelEstradaProd You are making an interesting point there, though a way of getting out of it would be to play the song yourself, record it, and extract the notes you want.
if someone uses 1 note of a musician's song and makes something else creative out of it that lots of people love, why is that a problem? Especially when they have to pay A LOT for it. It was OK for the Beatles to sample a bunch of sounds for free on their album. And whats the problem with parodies? They're awesome. YOU shouldn't knock someone else's art just because they sample,borrow or buy a snippet of music that someone else did especially if it sounds great. A collage is still considered art
@gogliajuan Taking samples and making them into a sound collage is a cut and paste art form for sure. I sample for experimenting fun all the time. It's not stealing until you start SELLING clips of someone else's music without making an agreement with them. The sad part is, only rich guys like Jay-Z and P Diddy can afford to make deals to use HUGE samples of old hits in their songs. A broke musician who's good at sampling has no chance.
Also i guess the comment on top referring to "the white guys" is just highlightting the fact that all the guys being against are white, as a coincidence, not as a racist remark.
Sampling is not about hearing the same sound, that would be playing any song. Sampling is about reinterpretation. Its about making a song yours. And btw, sampling is a little bit more like collage, its about putting the pieces together and arrenge them in new ways creating a new, unique piece.
And I have sampled other peoples music, before you try and say something.. I feel much more satisfied knowing it is COMPLETELY original. I guess that is my own personal preference.
I do not buy into the analogy of "painters and photographers." It's much harder to theive ones work in that aspect. In music, sampling ones music is LITERALLY stealing. You are hearing the EXACT sound. To only way to compare the two would be to take a picture that some photographer took of a bridge.. Take that same exact photo and photoshop it black and white, cut out a few things and bam... call it your own... Has nothing to do with painting. That is a terrible misguided analogy.
Sampling in its purest form is lazy.. How can you call yourself a "producer" when you are simply recycling other artists creations? Why not pick up an instrument or two or three or four and make something COMPLETELY original and refreshing.. You can cut it and manipulate how you want to give it that "hip hop" feel.. the best part... its all yours.. No questions asked. THEN, youre a prodcuer. Get off of your lazy asses and really progress our genre, people.
Steve Albini get your head out of your ass and actually listen to what we're doing with these samples. I can play both piano and guitar and I also sample tons of records, I supplement the sample with added strings/piano keys and basslines. Its not just looping up some shit and stamping your name on it. And btw don't knock something until you've actually tried it, dumb fucker.
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he compared producer vs instrument player with painter vs photographer..the same way the white guys are saying sampling is lazy, the painter can say about a photographer...but the point he is trying to make is they both should be appreciated because its very similar just with updated technology...they both create ORIGINAL ART even tho its made of something sampled or the picture isnt drawn but photographed
who cares if you sample or don't sample, if you create your own music it will get sampled. fuck it let it go, more important things to worry about. Really good movie though.
You have to pay (a proportion) of those, as the sample helps make the money, and the sampler didn't write it, or play it. Eg: Stubblefield must get paid. He wrote the drums, even if he didn't have a credit on the original JB record. There needs to be a new law and fast, or a Presidential decree to pay him (if such a thing exists).
"it's a remix culture and the laws have to change to allow the culture to do what it has to do" - Wrong! U stealin' shit? You can't make up your own shit? You can't sing or play your ass off like the artists your stealin' from? You just need to respect and pay beawtch
@xposeshure Right. It's true that people made (and can make) something new by breaking the rules (0:30), but you still have to pay SOMETHING even if it's not the full rate (some kind of method of acknowledgment)... if you make money from it that is. If you reap, you can't keep (it all). if they're "in your band", you have to pay them for that... something... like a pay for hire at least. But royalties will also accrue if there's money.
@societyforrealmusic what ive found is that the tunes they sampled,are the tunes they have bought,so everyone gets payed at the end of the day,plus most people don't even know the artist or the tune they sampled,so they get a free education in music,scratchin,loopin,mixin,and all the other stuff that make the turntablist!!!!
Also; I play guitar/bass, drums, piano and I sing. But I'm also an aspiring DJ/producer. For him to say that sampling is a lazy way of making music is asinine. It takes just as much skill to combine several different tunes and mix them in a very harmonious way so they sound JUST right as it is to make up a song on guitar and all that jazz.
steve albini just doesn't understand hip hop or hip hop lifestyle no matter how long he's been in the industry or how many artists he's worked with. still got mad respect for him tho and he can def. produce my next album haha
man i love all the bands that steven albini produced to death, but that guy is an elitist piece of shit!
nayaolympia 1 week ago
ShockG....mynigga
RIP Eyedea
dulaone 1 week ago
Thank U Shock G!!!
perfekshunistvsfni 1 week ago
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R3ST1NP1SS 3 weeks ago
When will these government idiots go after the record companies and managers that have been SCREWING the artists since the 50's with illegitimate record contracts? Nobody cares about the artists (that supply ALL of the productivity). How many Billions of dollars have artists been screwed out of in the 50 years BEFORE the existence of the internet? The internet is simply a tool with which NEW profits can be made. This is again, only about the top 1% (record companies) getting richer and richer.
FunkMan53 1 month ago
If the laws have to change for our generation to "Do what its got to do" let me tell you we have one stupid ass generation.
EmmanuelEstradaProd 1 month ago
Shock G.
Indepeoplemusic 1 month ago
hip hop is beautiful and other forms of sampling too.. mixing diffrent sounds together to make somethin that relates to us this day and age.. but they dont come from were we come from.. were we appriciate the little things we have to work with.. so fuck you mr i just want to make money of any fuckin thing.. fuckin fools..
icjay1990 1 month ago
isnt the reporter a pornstar ??? jenni lee????
forleez 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
they should pay samplers for taking samples
for re-promoting a lot of forgotten stuff...that no one knows about...
Discosugo 2 months ago
Shock Gs Analogy Seems Legit but its NOT, The camera man would be creating his OWN work because he didnt go and copy the picture, he took it the picture with his favored angles and view not a very good analogy if you put some thougght into it.
EmmanuelEstradaProd 3 months ago
@EmmanuelEstradaProd That is exactly the same thing. Sampling is supposed to be reintepretation.
SS5785 1 month ago
@SS5785
But the problem is they dobnt say its a reinterpretation, i love rap and i love mixing, and creating something of something else, but these rappers wont do whats right, they act as if they made original creations, and are not willing to give royalties or credit to the true original creators.
EmmanuelEstradaProd 1 month ago
@EmmanuelEstradaProd It will depend on the case. If you are making a cover and selling it you sure as hell should pay for it. But if you take a drum base or a guitar note im not sure you should pay. Afterall is not like these people have the rights of, say, the B minor note.
SS5785 1 month ago
@SS5785
no they dont own the note but their performance is theirs and people shouldnt benefit from others creations by a click of a button, its not really a reinterpretation if its the exact same recording
EmmanuelEstradaProd 1 month ago
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@EmmanuelEstradaProd You are making an interesting point there, though a way of getting out of it would be to play the song yourself, record it, and extract the notes you want.
SS5785 1 month ago
if someone uses 1 note of a musician's song and makes something else creative out of it that lots of people love, why is that a problem? Especially when they have to pay A LOT for it. It was OK for the Beatles to sample a bunch of sounds for free on their album. And whats the problem with parodies? They're awesome. YOU shouldn't knock someone else's art just because they sample,borrow or buy a snippet of music that someone else did especially if it sounds great. A collage is still considered art
gogliajuan 3 months ago
@gogliajuan Taking samples and making them into a sound collage is a cut and paste art form for sure. I sample for experimenting fun all the time. It's not stealing until you start SELLING clips of someone else's music without making an agreement with them. The sad part is, only rich guys like Jay-Z and P Diddy can afford to make deals to use HUGE samples of old hits in their songs. A broke musician who's good at sampling has no chance.
CribNotes 3 months ago
I just don't understand making someone elses song yours. Why not just make your own song?
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
Also i guess the comment on top referring to "the white guys" is just highlightting the fact that all the guys being against are white, as a coincidence, not as a racist remark.
SS5785 4 months ago
Sampling is not about hearing the same sound, that would be playing any song. Sampling is about reinterpretation. Its about making a song yours. And btw, sampling is a little bit more like collage, its about putting the pieces together and arrenge them in new ways creating a new, unique piece.
SS5785 4 months ago
I guess i'm just being a "white dude."
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
And I have sampled other peoples music, before you try and say something.. I feel much more satisfied knowing it is COMPLETELY original. I guess that is my own personal preference.
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
Painting and Photography are two very different, yet similar artforms. Music is not. Sampling IS stealing.
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
I do not buy into the analogy of "painters and photographers." It's much harder to theive ones work in that aspect. In music, sampling ones music is LITERALLY stealing. You are hearing the EXACT sound. To only way to compare the two would be to take a picture that some photographer took of a bridge.. Take that same exact photo and photoshop it black and white, cut out a few things and bam... call it your own... Has nothing to do with painting. That is a terrible misguided analogy.
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
Sampling in its purest form is lazy.. How can you call yourself a "producer" when you are simply recycling other artists creations? Why not pick up an instrument or two or three or four and make something COMPLETELY original and refreshing.. You can cut it and manipulate how you want to give it that "hip hop" feel.. the best part... its all yours.. No questions asked. THEN, youre a prodcuer. Get off of your lazy asses and really progress our genre, people.
mikexxxmilly 4 months ago
@vintagelements Yeah, you are right. This guy is just another snob.
SS5785 4 months ago
woa, woa. The DMCA has a youtube account? Quickly Billy, RUN!
SS5785 4 months ago
sampling is cheap and easy? Yeah, just like your mom!
SS5785 4 months ago 8
if you can sue people for sampling music, nature should sue me for taking photographs...
milkymike375 6 months ago
Steve Albini get your head out of your ass and actually listen to what we're doing with these samples. I can play both piano and guitar and I also sample tons of records, I supplement the sample with added strings/piano keys and basslines. Its not just looping up some shit and stamping your name on it. And btw don't knock something until you've actually tried it, dumb fucker.
Scathe8000 7 months ago
I'm sort of disappointed with Steve Albini. I thought he'd be more open minded than that.
itsthearistocrat 7 months ago
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DMCAServicesBureau 7 months ago
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presspasstv 8 months ago
Im not sure I understand shock G;s Analogy, can someone spell it out for me please
Airek2007 9 months ago
@Airek2007 sure
he compared producer vs instrument player with painter vs photographer..the same way the white guys are saying sampling is lazy, the painter can say about a photographer...but the point he is trying to make is they both should be appreciated because its very similar just with updated technology...they both create ORIGINAL ART even tho its made of something sampled or the picture isnt drawn but photographed
ScottyPimpnn 8 months ago 2
trippy seeing eyedea at 8:40..
flyingWill2 9 months ago
who cares if you sample or don't sample, if you create your own music it will get sampled. fuck it let it go, more important things to worry about. Really good movie though.
hiphoplivs 9 months ago
O SHIT El-P @8:12 !!
Canib0x 9 months ago
Shock G hit the nail right on the head. That was the best analogy i have heard in a long time. Oaktown droppin knowledge!!!
coffeemate79 11 months ago 10
This woman needs to change her introduction.
You have to pay (a proportion) of those, as the sample helps make the money, and the sampler didn't write it, or play it. Eg: Stubblefield must get paid. He wrote the drums, even if he didn't have a credit on the original JB record. There needs to be a new law and fast, or a Presidential decree to pay him (if such a thing exists).
societyforrealmusic 11 months ago
"it's a remix culture and the laws have to change to allow the culture to do what it has to do" - Wrong! U stealin' shit? You can't make up your own shit? You can't sing or play your ass off like the artists your stealin' from? You just need to respect and pay beawtch
xposeshure 11 months ago
@xposeshure Right. It's true that people made (and can make) something new by breaking the rules (0:30), but you still have to pay SOMETHING even if it's not the full rate (some kind of method of acknowledgment)... if you make money from it that is. If you reap, you can't keep (it all). if they're "in your band", you have to pay them for that... something... like a pay for hire at least. But royalties will also accrue if there's money.
societyforrealmusic 11 months ago
where's part 2 of this bitch?
terichards 11 months ago
epic remix @ 4:48!!! anyone knows if its complete somewere in the net?
franciscopanchoruiz 11 months ago
It took a lot of work to create this documentary and great work it is!
sugaredcandycane 1 year ago
FUCK U!! THE TURNTABLIST KEEPS THE ARTIST ALIVE!!!!!
B I T C H HAVE SOME RESPECT!!!! 4 THE TURNTABLISS
turntabliss 1 year ago
@turntabliss So pay the artist
societyforrealmusic 11 months ago
@societyforrealmusic what ive found is that the tunes they sampled,are the tunes they have bought,so everyone gets payed at the end of the day,plus most people don't even know the artist or the tune they sampled,so they get a free education in music,scratchin,loopin,mixin,and all the other stuff that make the turntablist!!!!
turntabliss 11 months ago
This is a great documentary I think
Mathenaut 1 year ago
I love El-P musics in the background is sick and made the documentary epic.
SpikeyJamez 1 year ago
RIP Eyedea
thedizah 1 year ago
thank you for uploading this
akkth 1 year ago
Fuck the law, the law is already in to many things now a days
Fyeagass16 1 year ago
what a douche
Dilesmusic 1 year ago
wow c'mon steve!
Dilesmusic 1 year ago
Also; I play guitar/bass, drums, piano and I sing. But I'm also an aspiring DJ/producer. For him to say that sampling is a lazy way of making music is asinine. It takes just as much skill to combine several different tunes and mix them in a very harmonious way so they sound JUST right as it is to make up a song on guitar and all that jazz.
MrIndestructible43 1 year ago
@MrIndestructible43
I 100 abso-FUCKING-lutely agree with you homie!
I get haters all the time saying im wack cuz I sample nes games.
"your just raping the artist work."
NO!
Im respectfully combining it with my work to create beautiful art.
Anyway good point my dude.
Peace.
DJDrSciFi 1 year ago
C'mon Steve, =\
MrIndestructible43 1 year ago
Wow. Steve Albini. Idiot.
ignoranttwat 1 year ago
steve albini just doesn't understand hip hop or hip hop lifestyle no matter how long he's been in the industry or how many artists he's worked with. still got mad respect for him tho and he can def. produce my next album haha
mattbnugka 1 year ago