There is MUCH historical evidence that Irving Berlin lifted the music for Alexanders Ragtime Band from Scott Joplin's unpublished Opera Treemonisha which Joplin--according to his Widow--had to rewrite the Treemonisha score before Joplin and his wife Lottie published it in 1911--the Next Year --in 1912--Joplin released the rag SCOTT JOPLIN's NEW RAG--in an angry reference to the Berlin theft--Alexanders Ragtime Band is a Berlin/Joplin composition--Joplin SHOULD get credit for the MUSIC !!!!!
@ParagramTree LIKE FUCK IT PROVES THAT. THERE ARE FANTASTIC SONGS FROM ALL ERAS. HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING INTELLIGENT OR CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY "This proves that the old songs are the best" WOW, YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTING. YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF THERAPY THAT MAKES YOU INTERESTING, YOU MIGHT EVEN PULL A WOMAN...HAHA, HOW DID I KNOW ABOUT YOUR "LITTLE" PROBLEM
This tune popped into my head while I was practicing on my trumpet. As it's not in my repertoire of songs I ran to the great Youtube for info and here I am. Your song was the first and don't recall this version; loved every second. Everyone is familiar with Jolson's and Crosby's versions if you're over 50 but the Collins & Harlan version I don't recall. Thanks for posting a treat.
Thanks for posting this! It's become one of my favorie songs! I actually found a verison of this recorded by Collions And Harlan on a Victor record yesterday. There are a few differences between yours and mine, but for 50 cents, who could pass it up?
Does this machine have a horn? It looks like there is just a hole where the horn is supposed to go in it. What is the needle made out of? Do you think that you could use modern material to make a needle that has better and or louder sound?
I think it's so neat that you can listen to recorded music without electricity, just good old muscle power and acustics.
Irving Berlin ripped off Scott Joplin's "A Real Slow Drag" to write this. Joplin turned his piece into Crown-Seminary-Snyder directly to Irving Berlin in 1911. Berlin returned it some weeks later saying is wasn't up to snuff. A few weeks after that, "Alexander" comes out using Joplin's song for the verses. Only the chorus part seems to be original. Joplin was infuriated and never forgave Berlin.
Thank You so much, I have sent this out to all my friends.
No recording can ever follow this wonderful recording by Billy and Ada, it is the best ever and brings tears to my eyes. The best ragtime song, ever written
@HYAAALP I wouldn't count on it. First, you are going to have a problem with compatibility. We can't read discs from 20 years ago because the standard changed, imagine how radically different the storage media of 99 years in the future will be! Next, you have to worry about the storage medium. CDs are notoriously susceptible to scratches and are rendered useless by them, whereas a record scratch only messes up the part of the song with the scratch.
This is as good as it gets, and I have heard this song many times, but nobody has ever done it like Billy Murray and Ada Jones.
Thanks for putting this on and showing the record player. I am 77 years old and would have given anything to have had a little portable record player like this one when I was growing up.
Thanks Retrod1. My grandfather used to sing and play this number for me on the piano when I was a little kid in the 70s. He came from a time when most houses had a piano that was used to play popular music. Now music is mostly just a listening activity.
Glad to here a non worn out copy of this. I found this same one on Columbia for $1.00 and I thought I had done pretty good. You know, even with significant wear some of the old records still have good sound on them. Well the grooves on mine are so far gone that it's barely worth playing...I guess the sound was worth a dollar. That's a cool player too!
Retrod1, Perfect! What a great recording, C & H are as good if not better than Jolson & Crosby. Is that that a 2-55? It sounds great. Thanks for sharing this.
Yes, a 2-55. I bought it at a flea market when I was 10 years old, that was 47 years ago! The old gent selling Victrolas had about half a dozen portables. He had been in the repair business when they were new! I carefully selected the 2-55 from the line-up. He said "sonny you picked out the best of them" He then told me to take care of it and I have, all these years.
Great song! Probably THE most well known song of the ragtime era. I'm still waiting to find a copy after 30 yrs. I've only ever found a banjo solo on cylinder :-(
thanks for posting !
alelooooooya 7 hours ago
@ agnuswild Grow up!
pjklondon 3 months ago
This would've been alot better autotuned.
BC1Dan 4 months ago
There is MUCH historical evidence that Irving Berlin lifted the music for Alexanders Ragtime Band from Scott Joplin's unpublished Opera Treemonisha which Joplin--according to his Widow--had to rewrite the Treemonisha score before Joplin and his wife Lottie published it in 1911--the Next Year --in 1912--Joplin released the rag SCOTT JOPLIN's NEW RAG--in an angry reference to the Berlin theft--Alexanders Ragtime Band is a Berlin/Joplin composition--Joplin SHOULD get credit for the MUSIC !!!!!
illidnarg 4 months ago
True Americana
sanclementekid 5 months ago
This proves that the old songs are the best. How many of todays songs do you think will still be being played in one hundred years time?
ParagramTree 5 months ago
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@ParagramTree LIKE FUCK IT PROVES THAT. THERE ARE FANTASTIC SONGS FROM ALL ERAS. HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING INTELLIGENT OR CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY "This proves that the old songs are the best" WOW, YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTING. YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF THERAPY THAT MAKES YOU INTERESTING, YOU MIGHT EVEN PULL A WOMAN...HAHA, HOW DID I KNOW ABOUT YOUR "LITTLE" PROBLEM
agnuswild 5 months ago
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ParagramTree 5 months ago
fantastic!!!!!!!!!
missjenzz 8 months ago
must say, the voice reminds me of Al Jolson
AngelaRed 8 months ago
"come on and hear, come on and hear!"
rankingtrevor 9 months ago
This tune popped into my head while I was practicing on my trumpet. As it's not in my repertoire of songs I ran to the great Youtube for info and here I am. Your song was the first and don't recall this version; loved every second. Everyone is familiar with Jolson's and Crosby's versions if you're over 50 but the Collins & Harlan version I don't recall. Thanks for posting a treat.
trumpsahead 10 months ago
very nice . thank you. I was looking for this song by Bessie Smith, but not available. thank you. From Québec City, Canada.
zenzero62 11 months ago
Alexander the Great!! !;-D
sparkyization 11 months ago
this is awesome.
beckasha83 11 months ago
Thanks for posting this! It's become one of my favorie songs! I actually found a verison of this recorded by Collions And Harlan on a Victor record yesterday. There are a few differences between yours and mine, but for 50 cents, who could pass it up?
Neopia123 1 year ago
is this song played on NPR on saterdays
didugame 1 year ago
Wow this song's 100 years old.
Linkage1992 1 year ago
Does this machine have a horn? It looks like there is just a hole where the horn is supposed to go in it. What is the needle made out of? Do you think that you could use modern material to make a needle that has better and or louder sound?
I think it's so neat that you can listen to recorded music without electricity, just good old muscle power and acustics.
christo930 1 year ago
love the crackling sound *Sigh*
We will never get to know how music was like back then....
J4jackass 1 year ago
I've loved this song ever since I first heard it in primary school. A classic!
Asxhmoula 1 year ago
The bestest band what am!
Fiftiesflashback 1 year ago
Irving Berlin ripped off Scott Joplin's "A Real Slow Drag" to write this. Joplin turned his piece into Crown-Seminary-Snyder directly to Irving Berlin in 1911. Berlin returned it some weeks later saying is wasn't up to snuff. A few weeks after that, "Alexander" comes out using Joplin's song for the verses. Only the chorus part seems to be original. Joplin was infuriated and never forgave Berlin.
Kirke182 1 year ago
Møkkbra spellt!
Michunddersputnik 1 year ago
Thank You so much, I have sent this out to all my friends.
No recording can ever follow this wonderful recording by Billy and Ada, it is the best ever and brings tears to my eyes. The best ragtime song, ever written
Imjin57 2 years ago
@Imjin57 It has "ragtime" in the title but this song is NOT a rag.
Kirke182 1 year ago
Never heard the verses before! At first i was thinking: Wrong song!
casinobowling 2 years ago
Wow, a vinyl that's survived for 99 years... I guess now that it's digital, it'll survive forever!
HYAAALP 2 years ago 20
@HYAAALP Correction: It's not vinyl, it's shellac!
Fiftiesflashback 1 year ago
@HYAAALP Unless of course your hard drive crashes and you hadn't backed it up to disk twice. LoL
axeman1063 1 year ago
@HYAAALP I wouldn't count on it. First, you are going to have a problem with compatibility. We can't read discs from 20 years ago because the standard changed, imagine how radically different the storage media of 99 years in the future will be! Next, you have to worry about the storage medium. CDs are notoriously susceptible to scratches and are rendered useless by them, whereas a record scratch only messes up the part of the song with the scratch.
These records aren't vinyl btw.
christo930 1 year ago
@HYAAALP Its not a vinyl, the old 78's were made of graphite. Vinyl came with the new 33i/2 speed records.
Parsfan1885 7 months ago
retrod1
This is as good as it gets, and I have heard this song many times, but nobody has ever done it like Billy Murray and Ada Jones.
Thanks for putting this on and showing the record player. I am 77 years old and would have given anything to have had a little portable record player like this one when I was growing up.
Imjin57 2 years ago
We singg this in Musical Theatre:p
Veryy high pitched thoughh[:
courtneyangel98 2 years ago
Wow, this is a great recording, considering how old it is! :-) Thanks for sharing this, awesome!
datalal624 2 years ago
..honey lamb...
xluminex 2 years ago 3
My favorite version of this song that I've heard on Youtube so far !
sbarr10 2 years ago
we had to sing this song in chorus but there was another verse
Pheoinix123 2 years ago
Very good song! That victor sounds great!Where did you get this phonograph?
Thanks
edisonphonographs 3 years ago
Thanks! I bought this Victrola at the 'Seven Mile Fair' in 1962!
retrod1 2 years ago
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing.
robertybobertyboo 3 years ago
Not a girl I would have taken along with me haha She sounds like she'd've been spitting tobacco!
BCravenO4 3 years ago
Thanks Retrod1. My grandfather used to sing and play this number for me on the piano when I was a little kid in the 70s. He came from a time when most houses had a piano that was used to play popular music. Now music is mostly just a listening activity.
Vampiracho 3 years ago
we sang this at our 2008 Holiday concert at my school. But the words are different, and there are different instruments.
KandBproduction 3 years ago
The musical film with Alice Faye and Tyrone Power is one of the greatest ever made...
bjnevin 3 years ago
Glad to here a non worn out copy of this. I found this same one on Columbia for $1.00 and I thought I had done pretty good. You know, even with significant wear some of the old records still have good sound on them. Well the grooves on mine are so far gone that it's barely worth playing...I guess the sound was worth a dollar. That's a cool player too!
bURRkEEF 3 years ago
Retrod1, Perfect! What a great recording, C & H are as good if not better than Jolson & Crosby. Is that that a 2-55? It sounds great. Thanks for sharing this.
Regards, J.
fuzzbear6240 3 years ago 2
Yes, a 2-55. I bought it at a flea market when I was 10 years old, that was 47 years ago! The old gent selling Victrolas had about half a dozen portables. He had been in the repair business when they were new! I carefully selected the 2-55 from the line-up. He said "sonny you picked out the best of them" He then told me to take care of it and I have, all these years.
retrod1 3 years ago 7
Retrod1, Yes you certainly picked a winner! Thanks for sharing it with us.
Regards, John
fuzzbear6240 3 years ago
@retrod1 what a great story. love the song also. Irving Berlin was a great song writer. I enjoyed this thanks for posting.
uptonman666 1 year ago
Great song! Probably THE most well known song of the ragtime era. I'm still waiting to find a copy after 30 yrs. I've only ever found a banjo solo on cylinder :-(
gramophoneshane 3 years ago
Very cool! Thanks for playing that!
mairin14 3 years ago
That was the bestest band what am!
rotunda57 3 years ago
Oh that's funny, I thought it was a woman until I read trolleybus1962's comment.
jessesgirl10 3 years ago
One of the singers sounds like a woman yet Collins and Harlan were both men.
trolleybus1962 3 years ago 5
The women's role is usually performed by Byron Harlan. Collins & Harlan were the most popular recording team of the Ragtime Era.
retrod1 3 years ago
very good!
ragnoj 4 years ago 2