Stephen Malkmus _ Baby C'mon

[KStealed]

with all my respects to Özdemir Erdoğan and turkey that song is BS and this a fkin great tune

[RacerEckss]

Album by album, Steve is taking away my dependence on a daily dose of Dylan. Fucking legendary, man!!!

[syunusk]

Stephen Malkmus once had a Turkish girlfriend. He's also a fan of 60's, 70's Turkish psych, rock'n roll music.

And it's not a secret that he got this riff from Özdemir Erdoğan's song Gurbet. He didn't steal or something. You can see it on his cd.

Stephen rocks!!!

[The633EDER]

I love the song, who love the song said liked!

[aporia82]

baby c'mon. steal on, steal on...

[funforalgernon]

You know, I heard The Beatles stole Day Tripper from the Stones' Satisfaction. Or vice versa. Or they're songs in the same key that happen to sound alike. Or have similar rhythm.

None of it ever matters. This isn't Huey Lewis and the Ghostbusters.

[imjudejones]

el video d malkmus q mas le gusta a cata!(GENIA!)

[ivasilikoslov]

booooooooo

orginal song

ozdemir erdogan "gurbet"

[gleetus]

what can I say, he's the man!

[petcowpronto]

st.john's college building, over and over....

[TheDuffro]

@SezenAksuVEVO not english, most creative American songwriter of the last 2 decades. recycled riff? big deal!

[Kidijs]

awesome video, gay comments

[0TheGTA0]

Friday Night Lights, Great scene, Matt Saracen is the best

[Wiretap96]

youtube.com/watch?v=G8o9RbaBME­A Ticket to Ride?

No - - thought not... C'mon rocks!

[BillyOfOckham]

I don't care if this is "stolen" or whatever ... it just rocks!

[MordecaiT]

SM does this on a lot of records. "Box Elder" uses a riff from Death and the Maiden by The Verlaines, and Folk Jam uses a riff from a Neu! song. Its not plagarism in the same way TS Eliot uses allusion in the Waste Land

[ustuner3d]

if it was the other way around, the turkish song might have been flamed to death with "thief!!!" comments.

but when stephen does it , it is okay. he didnt credit özdemir erdoğan did he ? how is it okay ?

I repeat, the main riff, the main god damn melody is stolen from Turkish legend Özdemir Erdoğan. and for people who claims that he is a nobody, your precious talented stephen stole from this guy. he is that good . so please dont be ignorant.

[mdvavdm]

@ustuner3d calm down douche. it's a guitar riff, and Stephen Malkmus would take a dump on ozdemir erdogan anyways. also if you look closely, i did not capitalize his name, whereas i did capitalize Stephen's due to the fact that he is a more fitting example of a proper noun in modern society.

[mdvavdm]

@ustuner3d .....that was uncalled for. stephen wouldn't take a dump on ozdemir erdogan. but you're also an asshole.

[mtswong]

14 people are irrational Turkish bigots :(

[everennui]

Youtube > Search > "4 chords, 65 songs"

[muteserver]

to people it says the riff sounds "slightly" similar, are you fucking tone deaf?

the "main" riff is exactly the same with the original one

however its a nice cover

[muteserver]

@muteserver not "it says", i meant "who say", sorry

[raceofdoom]

do not watch this while hungover.

[amoebazebra420]

Seriously, this sounds nothing like Ozdemir's Gurbet. I'm sure it had some (direct) influence on this song but come on guys... they don't even sound remotely similar.

[achillesbrain]

When you create art in a world with 6 billion artists, what some consider plagiarism is often coincidental.

[kdakan]

this rip off sucks. özdemir erdoğan's original song is a classic.

[chentex23]

Who the fuck cares if he took the music from that other turkish song. Many artists take ideas from other but they BUILD UPON IT, making it special in their own way. Jimmi Hendrix covered Hey Joe from and old blues band, and it was great, do you guys fucking complain about that? What about when Led Zeppelin played a cover of Hey Joe by Hendrix (A cover of a cover) for their reunion tour, do you guys complain about that?

[sclopsvideos]

The Turkish song is not a patch on Stephens. It may share a few riffs, and that's about all. Not the same!

[e2run]

stolen music! fuck you stephen!!!!!!!

[Elbemarle]

That other song's very nice. A really beautiful piece of work. This song however ROCKS, and is the other is not only #1 not a patch on it, but #2, not a thing remotely similar to it in the vocal melody, hook, or (needless to say) lyrics. A song = THE SUNG PART. You people obsessing over a snippet of string-noodling are pedants who, by your comments, do not know what a song is.

[thenormish]

Aside from the riff sounding slightly the same, what the fuck is the problem? They sound nothing alike. Go listen to fucking greenday if you want to hear some real riff lifting!

[isalegal]

infinito

[peelsmusic]

Great video, very good song, too.

[valentinofb]

that is good cover from original song of Gurbet - Ozdemir Erdogan

[amoebazebra420]

@valentinofb IT'S NOT A COVER, MAN. Not even close. Nor was it supposed to be.

[MahalledeKavgaVar]

hey this melody is stolen from "Ozdemir Erdogan - Gurbet"!

Yarraaaaaaaaamin antifirizi araklamis laaaaa.

Shizenn

[MrAugust767]

This video is awesome

[moe354sa]

there is a movement between two notes that is somewhere similar.. however the key is a semitone sharp and the lyrics and tempo are not same.. i'd take it as a compliment before accusing anyone its just a movement between notes if I could patent my own moves i'd be rich but alas it was never meant to be..

[V4Valmont]

P.S: I happen to know that Malkmus spent several months in Turkey prior to Face the Truth album, so yes he got the riffs here.

[erdoni]

both songs are nice

[V4Valmont]

What's all the thieving talk? Are you guys the composer or the right holder for the original song or something? Maybe he did maybe he didn't, just shut the fuck up and and enjoy this rare moment where something related to Turkey is not in any way a negative thing in the eyes of non-Turkish people.

[indiepolo]

who gives a shit.Malkmus is a legend and the Turkish guy can fuck off.

[aporia82]

without the turkish guy there shouldn't be a song like this. you are an idiot...

[PesimisTosbaa]

Fuck you thiefs!

[IndieWalrus]

SM, Pavement & Jicks ftw!

[aporia82]

this is a turkish song of ozdemir erdogan. the title is gurbet. it was written in 1962. this song is totally stolen. this is bullshit.

[friskystapler]

eh, its a pretty generic line. Seriously riffs get recycled all the time by other bands. They're 2 completely different songs

[ookaninam2013]

You said it. The riff is similar but that's about it. If you look at the songs: Just Like Heaven, With or Without you, Love will tear us apart again and Here comes your man all have the same chord progression. Let's face it, rock is a huge recycling bin and people enjoy it that way.

[spiffykimbean]

Completely agreed. Unless you, yourself, can somehow come up with completely new ways to make music -- notes, progressions, and all -- then just let it go. Something can be done only so many times and in so many ways before it starts to become a commonality.

This song is entirely for the WIN.

[moe354sa]

I actually invented a new technique involving glass guitar picks and gave a glass guitar pick to malkmus,, he'll come out with something eventually if he doesn't retire first.. notes and progressions are the road between point a and point b,, its how you travel that makes it interesting.

[MyCreationHede]

@friskystapler I agree with the fact that riffs get recycled all the time as we're talking about popular music and styles are different too, but melodies are definetely not being recycled. If you were strictly talking about one chord progression I'd say it's ok but in that case it is unfortunately not. Gurbet from Erdogan is a song that I like and it pointed me here and I was just curious. I didn't even know SM before but it terribly looks like the main line seems to be "over inspired".

[PerdelerVeBen]

götverene bak nası da araklamış

[hollywoodpurplehaze]

great album

[hacibaba00]

here is the original one:

/watch?v=G7hTrZ4dxwE

turkish (original) version recorded in 1962. malkmus was born in 1966.

[LesMogol]

@hacibaba00 thats right hemso ;)

[SCL0PS]

@hacibaba00 That song is shit.

[bustersufo]

@hacibaba00 Ummm, study malkmus' catelog slightly further first. He put this song like third to last on his eleventh or twelvth album to date. It is hardly a staple but it rocks alot harder, better and more ingenious than the song that obviously influenced it. A nod to the turkish artist who probably stole the two or three note riff from chuck berry or elvis....to judge SM in any way on this is hilarious given his output.

[08chenry]

Malkmus admitted to being influenced by "Turkish psych" on Face The Truth. So it's not really a surprise that this was influenced by the Erdogan song. Either way it's a great album!

[rorschach1]

this is hardly a 'ripoff' if anything it is a homage to the riff. But it is an entirely different arrangement with an original chord progression and melody over the riff. It's similar, but listen to Gurbet and tell me that the songs sound the same....you can't do it. It's a serious stretch. There are only 12 notes in music, so there are about 6000 songs witht the same chords in them. Ask me and Ill gladly list 6 songs with idential chord progressions to eachother. They are still damn good.

[PerdelerVeBen]

"There are only 12 notes in music"

serdar ortac?

[iamchazoo]

"It's not where you take things from - it's where you take them to."

[BritishRulez]

oh who cares if it s turkish it's malkmus comon people -

[danisinkz]

who gives a fuck whether he stole it, no ones says shit about people stealing blues music!

[bariskeremboyraz]

MALKMUS CLASSIC? DAMN he STOLE IT from the 1970's turkish song!! lame foreigners everything you own is a cheap fake of east, yet you disgust east.

[hashmaker10000]

i don't hate the east but the reason most people in america hate the east is cause the east hates america unless its to make money off them

[lafindesharicots]

@hashmaker10000 lol, everyone hates America, not only Eastern people x)

[sushilll111]

Yea well the Turks also killed a bunch of Greeks and Armenians, so I guess stealing a song isnt the worst thing that could happen to them.

[remakebeat]

Yes and the Greeks and the Armenians killed a bunch of Turks around that time. Wtf does that have to do with music?

[sushilll111]

I was just kidding yo

[onderredno]

hey idiot,check the original son,,,it was 47 yeras old..who did steal it?also fuck greek and armenia god damn idiot

[betoklamt]

AAAwesome!

[zoetropez]

I miss Pavement like I miss my first ever girlfriend and my first ever car and my first ever feelings of potential for the future...Sigh....

[canerzincan024]

FAKE !

Orginal is TURKISH

Özdemir Erdogan - GURBET !

[KStealed]

sorry to desagree ... the opening riff in that turkish song maybe older than this tune. But the arrangement is completly diferent. The vocal melody lost sense acording the standard rules of contemporary music.

Anyway i see your point, and no, im not american®, spain here. I dont see this tune plagiarous in anyway.

The opening riff is almost the same. Farther than that the tunes are like black and white :D

[VagaBondnycVintage]

It's so good, he's such a cute guy, thank god he lies low!

[derbeder1988]

ozdemir erdogan-gurbet

[kaptanefe]

its origin is TURKISH song ozdemir erdogan-gurbet

[stigmhc]

anyone has any clues about the director? this is awesome

[taibshe]

vid is magic.

[chuckademus]

another malkmus classic

[someboots]

This is my cat, Nadine Navybean's favorite song.

[h4ppydriver]

your cat got a nice pair of ears :)

[NedGayle]

who made this video

the stop motion style looks familiar

[tenebrae654789]

cool vid !

[boinky333]

I LOVE this song and the video is very creative!

[danielion999]

You all have said it all.

[fairypowerspray]

2.44! sounds like a lifetime.

[kaliwallace123]

well cool video

[Danlikesyou]

Like Radixxs said! I watched in twice in row, awesome.

[Radixxs]

Best music video ever.

[ar2022]

great video.i will always love Malkmus.

[bennyw55]

malkmus is the best from silver dews , pavement and now the Jicks to bad i live in aus and he never comes here its been 3 years and counting

[m00gercake]

There are only so many chords/notes in the book, to talk of plagerisum is to send the whole darn music industry into court with the RIAA... second thoughts thats not such a bad idea ;)

Love this song, lets hope that Pavement Reunion tour happens :)

-m00g

[aakozanoglu]

Stolen song.

(From Ozdemir Erdogan's Gurbet.)

[changemytone]

dude this has been discussed so many times here.

[changemytone]

this actually is the best thing on youtube.

[jdavids2]

you are high but this is good

[PanMonroe]

By the way

this is GURBET : 4XrVQ1bgllo

and this is the song from the movie :

-oKY3SysoDw&feature=related

[PanMonroe]

the main riff is from the song "Gurbet" by a Turkish composer-singer Özdemir Erdoğan. İts also the theme song of a movie of Turkish comedy legend KEMAL SUNAL.. Stephen Malkmus declared he had taken this riff from that movie,he also declared he loves Kemal Sunal. İ mean there is no stealing. By the way, This song is a sweet one for us,hearing such a melody from Malkmus.But on the other hand, this İ don't like the whole song. İ love Malkmus,but i cant see his creativity on that one..

[luciaxfixia]

non non non l'écureuil

dramatique

chante mieux que

stephen hahaha

[Weaselier]

Couldn't disagree more. Thought the first album was good and that pig lib was very good but found the third well duff and the fourth only slightly better. They seemed a little short on ideas, were maybe over reaching and ended up sounding a titchy bit like self impersonation.

[corm88]

hahaahha 'I've Hardly Been' from this album pinches the riff from 'Mansion' by the fall, but then again I think its a traditional riff like blues I guess.

Face the Truth is amazing.

[LoneConformist]

The first Malkmus solo album was not so great, but each one has gotten better. There's not really a dud moment at all on Face the Truth.

His voice is comforting if you're of a certain age, but so far he isn't just coasting on nostalgia.

[chrisocony]

Mama is a dud for me but I know others like it. And Pencil Rot is interesting but so so. Pig Lib is perfect.

[thecure810]

he said limb-y. ahh, stephan malkmus. :D

[McGuinty1]

remember pavement's old videos and how awesome/funny/messed up they were? If you don't, go pick up the pavement "Slow Century" DVD. It's good to see SM has lost none of his panache in the intervening years. Pig Lib is in my top 5 albums of the 21st century. And to all those guys who say that he's somehow lost some artistic integrity on "Face the Truth" (there's a few, and you know who you are), just remember that people said the exact same things about Wowee Zowee a decade ago.

[alielturco]

it's a nice cover at all. :D

[Cmon91]

@ ozantugrul: you mean gurbet-ozdemir erdoğan

stealed it from Stephen Malkmus ;P

[lemoschee]

i love him

[ozantugrul]

he stole it or not but the intro is same with gurbet-ozdemir erdoğan

[shhhakedown1979]

Nice. The verse in Silence Kit always reminded me of Buddy Holly's "Everyday."

[eschara]

gurbet-ozdemir erdoğan

[Freepablo]

Yeah, it actually does sound like that Turkish song if you look it up in Youtube. But like someone also mentioned, it also sounds like If I Were A Rich Man. My final thought? It's a really simple, catchy guitar riff. That's it.

[hurshit7up]

I love this song too. Of course they are mostly different, but their catchy parts are similar.

And also please don't underestimate our guitar players (except hasan cihat örter hehe). (just kidding ;))

Have fun :)

[pretzellogic74]

Well no one in Turkey can play guitar like Stephen Malkmus so SIT DOWN AND SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING! haha just kidding. What's Turkey going to do?  Sue him? Whatevah. The riff reminds me of "If I were a Rich Man" from Fiddler on the Roof. Stephen Malkmus should star in Fiddler on the Roof then he'd really made Turks mad. Double whammy

[lativius]

especially intro of the song is stolen from another song by özdemir erdoğan... but this is funny too... :)

[Miloe7213E]

i heard the turkish song this was "stolen" from. wow. not even close. some people just love their culture so much that they will really stretch the limits of reason in attributing things to their people. this is a good song...turkish people who find it too similar to their little tune can just take off.

[hurshit7up]

unfortunately this tune was stolen from "ozdemir erdogan - gurbet"

greetings from turkey

[breeeegs]

what, this sounds nothing like Ziggy Lippy Burgetwurgetwaggga!!! That was nowhere near as powerful or moving as Zemi Domy Wummy Wimpylippywashawahsahshagagara­ga, however.

[hurshit7up]

calm down joe

how old are you

[McGuinty1]

LMFAO

[MopyDream44]

best video ever.

[pauloalencar]

Roses are red

Violets are blue,

The suggar is sweet,

Sweet like You!

Fuck you Yanks.

stupt american people.

[breeeegs]

Wow, i appreciate your lack of condescencion, you French piece of crap. Ha ha, just kidding, i know you're really Chinese.

[alexfregon]

kinda like playing quake

[queenlaura]

Best clip eva, much?

[nadiralkan]

this song&clip is very nice.but a melody in this song (betweeen 1:24-1:37) is a popular melody for old Turkish movies.Most of people know this melody in Turkey.

[baumbom]

fucking malkmus can't lose

[leilahh]

word

[dorukciftci]

well, the song has a really catching tune, and the music video fits it just perfect as in all malkmus videos. dark wave had a cool video too.

anyway, the tune in this song is an old turkish tune that malkmus had probably heard when he was in turkey for a concert. perfect choice stephen.

[peneric]

Man, I'm getting dirty looks in the subway station because I can't stop singing 'Baby come on' all the time...ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner ne ner nu ne nu ne nu...

[charlessale]

Tripped man. Cool.

[raceofdoom]

i feel dizzy

[gmooney]

fantastic video

[duastden]

this one is great, but discretion grove is even greater. someone put that one in as well, i couldn`t find it

[jonathan223]

what a perfect summer song