2009 - Equal (money) system for ALL

[dumbtrooper]

i made it simple you got 2 choice equality or coruption and pain what you choose let me know

[voidsiriusonly]

I agree. We need social engineering and willingness to heal the planet. Not money.

[SpaceForte]

Your idea contains a good message but I see a few problems like...

1 - Should all jobs pay the same? Should a doctor earn the same as a waiter?

2 - Will education be free so my kids can become doctors if I do not have enough money for college?

3 - What about food and other needs?

4 - People are motivated by money and material things....how do you change that?

How about if everyone just gave a percentage of their wage to needy countries so they could be helped? Would that work?

[SpamAnn]

1.The basis of the Equal money system is to facilitate the money system being equal to the

value of life. Therefore, there will be a set rate that will be standard globally for

everyone. If you want more money, you simply work more for it.All work will be valued by the amount of time put into it providing anyone in any given job situation the opportunity to earn more based on the amount of work put in.

2. Education will be available for ALL, regardless of money.

[SpamAnn]

3. Food and other needs will still be produced, a lot of automatisation will be installed and people who want to plant their own food will be able to (right now a lot of people want, but are not able to through money system). Also there will be people choosing to provide the food for others. I personally would like to do that. We would work out agreements so we can sustain each other.

4. People are PROGRAMMED to be motivated by money, we change the programming,.

[SpamAnn]

4re. Because children will be no longer programmed from birth to go into survival mode and only think about themselves and value material things above life. This is a program. look at the tribe people, they do not think that way. Giving a percentage to needy countries would not work because the capitalist system would be still in place, and it cannot work without debt.

[SpaceForte]

@SpamAnn - Would you call this a Socialist conept? I am not sure how to label your ideas, though they are valid, but I think the change will take a long time to occur. Especially here in America where everyone wants to improve their quality of life by getting more material things....better cars, bigger homes, popular clothing, etc. I am not driven as much by this but our society as a whole is selfish and does not want to let go of their "stuff". I have looked at Destini-Money website. Good ideas

[SpamAnn]

I would call it anything actually. It may take a long time, true, and probably some hard times, when those who live in comfort are face to face with what a lot of poo rpeople have been experiencing for so long.

[manilaenglish]

@SpaceForte Feeding people is an even simpler task because of automation and our technological advancement. According to the 2002 U.S. Census Report only 1.9% of the work force was employed in Agriculture, it contributed a mere 0.7% of the total GDP and yet it was sufficient enough to feed the entire American population (making a lot of us fat). We even produced so much food we could export it and throw a lot of it away.

The biggest hurdle is distribution so we redesign our cities to be closer

[MikeGoGettersVLOG]

I'm not sure I agree with this, but I can say that I VERY much appreciate your smiles and positive energy that oozes out of you. This is what kept me watching your video with the same message as others with very sad "the world is falling apart" view points. It's simply rarely my style. I'm thinking about this topic.. very interesting. Thanks for your smiles MOST importantly to me =) The natural Godly persona that is within us, that is inherently ours in my belief is most important.

[vaporose]

Local currencies (like the Ithaca Dollar) and thinking "Locally" are the key. The Bankers have special privileges granting them a monopoly on money and trade in general. We as the consumers of money need to go back to our communities and get our local area self sustainable and trade locally. As long as we depend on centralized food production and centralized governments, wer'e screwed. A new bigger monopoly on money will have a bigger problems when it fails.

[sasaneti]

Wonderfull video and nice message.

[denispleiadian]

You know as I soon as I get the opportunity I will upload my video discussing this issue. Right now, money(lack of it) is stopping me from it. All the more motivates me to get rid of this current system.

[denispleiadian]

Through our mutual effort. I appreciate you immensely, Ann & I address everyone who is watching your videos and reading these comments to join us in sharing ideas, discussing and suggesting what is the best solution 4 all to make living 4 all of us inhabiting this wonderful planet a lot easier. Blessings.

[MaleAdaptor]

Think out of the box.

I believe in a world where no one needs money!

Of course there would be no parasites either.

[oscard1113]

do you live in a big piece of land where you live off the food you grow and are self suffiecient that is the only way to live without money

[SpamAnn]

No I dont, I have a small vegetable garden, live with parents, we have a garden. Its nto about ME living without money, it is about a collective change to stop the world from abusing through money, and to create equality for ALL.

[heavenisharmless]

The problem with people living longer is easily and quite naturally solved by lower birthing. Hmm most of Europe has that hands down. The problem is immigration into Europe by people intent on living off the welfare state (mainly muslims). Do the research. They breed, parasite, commit crimes. How is rape economically motivated. Your ignoring the elephant in the room. All as one as equal wont touch thousands of years of cultural history any time soon. Good and gentle people need protection now!

[JoeKouFullCircle]

The birth rate is something that is worth looking at in terms of whether we are currently able to sufficiently provide for all equally and ensure a dignified living for all persons.

however, immigration problems faced by western countries stems from economic and political unrest which is directly affected by whether people are being supported by their economic system at home.

suppose the muslim population were offered the same equal money system. would they need to immigrate then?

[KellyPosey]

"How is rape economically motivated?"

Sex slave trade, kidnapping and forced prostitution of children, for money, etc.

[heavenisharmless]

In the West that is the lesser (numerically) motivation of rape. In the middle east the greater being institutionalized. I should have qualified my statement. In the western countries that dont institutionalize (all of them despite christianity) rape, economics is not a motivator and racial differences in rates of rapes (and most if not all other crimes) are often an order of magnitude. There. Happy.

[goodrow17]

excellent video Ann, Thanks

[Taygeta24]

lol frodo stop interrupting :D

[SpamAnn]

Lol yes he is way to sweet to ignore :P

[denispleiadian]

I wholeheartedly agree with you and support you 100 %. Love your videos, keep up the good work.

[denispleiadian]

Frodo is cute:). Named him after the character in Lord of the Rings trilogy?

[1GOD1JESUS]

right on Ann, im with you on this 100%

[deliciousonionsoup]

I agree with you.

There is a difference between what we want and what we actually need.

Anyway I think there are far too many people on this planet and we are taking all of the resources and putting pressure on the earth.

I think stress, pressues, crime, abuse and wars come about because of unequality / inequality and human behaviour / human nature.

Of course other results are the abuse of animals for food and that the habitats of wild animals are still being taken by humans.

[halo2pc]

Ok, I would like to point out the most important steps we have to take, in order to survive.

And the problem of too many people is not one of them, because it would mean to focus on something we simply CANNOT have influence over at this point.

It is indeed crucial to keep the MOST important point in your mind when investing your power for a better society, where it could be a joy to live in.

[halo2pc]

1. injustice

First action to take would be to divide the wealth fairly, because the way it's been divided at the present, cannot be anymore unfair.

2. secure survival

Grant every single citizen of this planet the basics to survive.

a. Oxygene is for free

b. Water is not supposed to be an issue

c. Food is not supposed to be an issue

d. Freedom is not supposed to be an issue

e. Shelter is not supposed to be an issue

The points b - e are basics, but they can be problem for some.

[deliciousonionsoup]

And give animals all of these rights equally too. They have the right to a habitat without humans taking over the lands they live on. And of course they have the right not be be farmed.

[vaporose]

what about plants? Do they have the right not to be farmed?

[deliciousonionsoup]

Halo2pc, yes I do see that the priority is a new structure / system that treats all as equal and one. And yes I see that human population size is secondary to this and indeed that population size would indeed be taken into account by a structure for equality and oneness anyway.

Yes, the new structure / system must come first. But ultimately for equality and oneness (animals included of course) then human population size must be much smaller - by humane means of a reduction in birth rate.

[ViktorHansEmanuel]

cool ann

[LindaDillinger]

Thanks Ann

[FelipeSparx29]

Frodo knows best

[iloveterriers]

Your dog is very cute -- he has very expressive eyes.

[iloveterriers]

The problem is not only all of us who keep wanting more and more, it is also that the top 1% are those who control everything and keep us all as slaves to the system. I think the problem has always been the corruption going on with the richest at the top of the pyramid.

[SpamAnn]

No one can keep us slaves unless we allow it. We cant blame the top, we all agree on it every day. So unless we all agree to stop, nothing will. Those in power are slaves of their mind just like we have been.

[iloveterriers]

It is only a few of us, a small percentage on this planet, who even care about changing anything. The masses in general don't want anything to change, so I see it as being hopeless. Just a few of us who care cannot change the world if we have no power. I don't know what else to say, it is a very sad situation.

[SpamAnn]

more will realise :) We dont need hope, it will work, maybe not right away, or maybe after we have taken some serious hits

[halo2pc]

I think we really need a serious hit before people will understand what actually is going wrong.

First I hoped too that people would realize and understand what's right and what's wrong.

But now I have decided to wait for our sick system to collapse completely.

There are people who do not understand the spoken or written words. They do not inderstand the signs. All they understand is force .. and be it nature's force.

[vaporose]

"I think we really need a serious hit before people will understand"

Ah... That's what the US defense dept thought when they drafted "Operation Northwoods". That's what Hitler thought when he had his SS guys dress up like Polish soldiers and attack a German outpost to get German backing of support. False Flags are a very old MO but apparently still effective. However remember, you won't be able to fool "All the people".

[halo2pc]

So we have figured out where the problem is.

What's the next step ? How can we accomplish a success still in our life time ?

What have we accomplished so war ?

From what I can see, we're going downhill with full speed and open eyes for the last 10 years.

What we need now are suggestions that might save our lifes and not preachers.

Thank you

[SpamAnn]

First of all we have to work the new system out, this we can do together in discussion on the fora. And share with as many as possible, spread on the internet, get people to see. The more people the more power to bring forth change

[ahcult]

spamann i love you im not afraid to say it i dont agree with you but for some subconcious reason i find myself wanting to make sure your alright and well .

ahhh i fell great now just being honest how about you

[halo2pc]

I think that you're right.

The problem Ann is talking about, exists worldwide. It's a global issue.

The reason for why it has not changed to the better, but becomes worse year by year, is that we are heading to the point of no return with full speed.

A small minority is able to see that ... only a few.

We are outnumbered by those ...

1. who have a finacial advantage

2. who are ignorant / have a mental disorder

3. who are egoistic and ruthless

4. who are plain dumb

[deliciousonionsoup]

Precisely.

[halo2pc]

From you video, we have the same opinion about our society.

But to be right and to get right are two different things.

I can see for why people are dishonest - because they want to gain an advantage.

They do not care if our society is divided between winners and losers, as long as they belong to the winners.

That alone is the main reason why justice has so little chance, because if we decided to establish justice - there wouldn't be winners anymore.

[SpamAnn]

true, thats why a lot will only change if they are put in the possition of disadvantage or suffer

[deliciousonionsoup]

I wonder if people are up to the task of moving to oneness and equality. There jusrt seems so much selfishness and abuse out there which people embrace in their daily lives and which is imbedded in many accepted cultures. I'm not optimistic about people because most only want for themselves.

[authmaax]

=)

yeah... greed concentrate work... the sistems provide that compression... then ...

as existence is based on work and money... then work and money is not enough because the work that is left is done very effectively (modernization of systems) ... then part of the society dies and the other is left working ... while thinking that they are living....

if LIFE as equality is valued, then what is left ..as systems evolve, then more time is left for everyone express freely without excessive work

[phobik2000]

What you fail to assess is how 90% of the population, hence the system is incapable of pursuing that.

[authmaax]

unfortunaly everything exists in reverse... that comment is no exception.. since what i assess or not, is not a problem to the world.

and... well... by your point of view... you ass-ess a lot

[authmaax]

thats to phobik2000 (1 day ago) down there

[ahcult]

nice theory but an equal money system is not logical every ones contributoin to society is differernt, meaning the standard measurement of ones contribution is their bank account . not to mention the motivation factor.. changes like this would begin with values taught during childhood a new perspective ...... drink massive amounts of beer and contemplate sum more

[SpamAnn]

Equal money for all from birth, where everyone at least has the chance to live, and "xtra's" could be urned if there is more effort. Alcohol would be forbidden since it is one of the most abused substances in the world, which causes humans to abusive and harm, and does no good.

[ahcult]

to forbid a free willed human being from enjoying a ice cold beer is naive .

beer has been around longer then money ..

search for ninkasi...when you find her let me know ... seriously your theory isnt logical i replied to gabriel on his channel but i didnt come to any rash conclusions hoping my coments would return after midnight . one thing that humanity doesnt need to do is get rid of fun whats amatter id have a drnk with you relax enjoy life the whole meaning ......................

[SpamAnn]

Its not, and when people become self honest, they will not even want to consume alcohol and get drunk. Alcohol is nr 5 hard drug did you know. There are more accidents and deaths on it then any other drug.

[halo2pc]

I have the firm opinion, that our system where people are forced to comply in order to live their lifes, will not accept if we developed a will on our own.

The rich Companies, the politicians and our media stick together with the rich to keep poverty in order to secure their finacial advantage.

That is not something difficult to figure out anymore.

It's obvious for those who're able to see, but some poeple will never see - no matter how hard we try.

[SpamAnn]

You dont need alcohol to have fun, if that is so then your fun isnt real, then your fun needs a substance which is abusive and which triggers your mind to get energy and spew more bs into the world. So you place "fun" as an experience that you can gain with alcohol, in seperation of yourself, where you have to indulge in idiocy to have "fun". Your fun is more important then life?

[halo2pc]

I don't smoke and never smoked in my life.

Same with alcohol but this has changed in the recent past, because I drinking once in a while makes you forget all the troubles in your life that you are not able to solve.

And this is the point where I begin to understand people who become addicted.

I cannot live any longer with these kind of problems unsolved - therefore I welcome very much a tiny small break from all the shit, and that can be done instantly with alcohol.

[SpamAnn]

Your reactions to the problems in your life is what you have to work on, problems come and go, its about who you are within dealing with those problems. Drinking wont make it go away, drinking is ignorance and postponement, wanting a drug to for a while give you bliss to forget about yourself. because it is running away from yourself.

[halo2pc]

I have rejected alcohol all my life and still do.

I am aware that this is not a solution, but you need to understand that there is only so much burden one is able to carry.

We must not be ignorant of the fact, that people do find a remedy in alcohol - and be it for a short period of time only.

If the number or severity of problems were not overpowering a single human being - he might not have gone that route.

Look how serious the issue itself is, and you will have to admit.

[halo2pc]

Besides this, I can only highlight that this step is already a sign of the hardest distress.

If you consider the next step to be suicide, then you might realize the indication to a level of devastation, that must not be ignored - but who cares really ?

That seems to be the whole issue - nobody cares, because looking after each other has been extinct.

It has been replaced by being selfish, egoistic, ruthless and destructive.

If you could prove me wrong, I'd be very happy.

[SpamAnn]

I can prove you wrong by saying there are people that actually care, and there are people that are willing to do that, and you can only take resposability for yourself and direct yourself. So dont wait for the rest, do what you can, more will realise and do the same.

[halo2pc]

The fact that there are people who are an exception to the rest of the society, is not a proof.

That I personally have come to the conclusion that as a whole are abusing the earth and each other, does not change our current situation.

Requesting the people in power to rethink their actions does not change a single thing.

A reasonable small number of people revolting on the streets does not bring a single thing.

I think you guys are not aware how much we all are under control of the rich.

[SpamAnn]

As I said: self honesty and forgiveness on the reactions towards your problems/burdens, that is the solution. Alcohol numbs you down and will make the same reactions come up over and over again. until YOU stop it.

[deliciousonionsoup]

Yes, alcohol, drugs or any behaviour that a person uses "to cope" does not actually serve them or the world.

[halo2pc]

That is like saying "Killing someone because he has a flue is not a remedy for the desease".

Everyone knows that. Therefore we do not need to point this out, because we're spinning in a circle for ever, if we continue to do so.

Has realization prevented ANYONE from stop doing the wrong thing ? No, it hasn't.

Realization does not help, otherwise we would not have these problems.

It would be a huge step forward, if we could stop preaching of what's right and what's wrong.

[halo2pc]

It does not matter if I think that drugs or alcohol are bad for my health.

What do you think does someone do, when he has come to the point where he has nothing to lose ? For you and for me, health is a high value / if not the highest, but when the personal problems gain a certain part of your life, then health does not count that much anymore.

There is one thing that is indeed more important than health: the will to live !

[SpamAnn]

the point is that people abuse through drugs and alcohol. Its not a believe or anything, its happening day in day out. Used as an escape/ignorance/abuse etc... I actually wasnt thinking about health.

[halo2pc]

Whay do you mention the word "believe" in the same sentence as abuse ?

I don't get that.

And neither do I get your point regarding abuse though drugs and alcohol.

What are you trying to tell me ?

That abuse is the keyword ?

Abuse of other people and abuse of our resources ?

What would we conclude from that ?

And what would you suggest ?

[deliciousonionsoup]

Halo2pc wrote: "It would be a huge step forward, if we could stop preaching of what's right and what's wrong."

I don't know to whom you wrote this to. I didn't see anyone preaching.

Btw I think people can change after realisation. Actually realisation is needed before change. Realisation doesn't make change on itself of course, but it is needed before one's will and action is put into motion to make change happen. And many people have changed after realisation.

[halo2pc]

I said this because of your sentence:

"I think stress, pressues, crime, abuse and wars come about because of unequality / inequality and human behaviour / human nature."

That is very, very clear to me. So I wouldn't know for why that has to be pointed out.

Rearding the realisation process ... I have the feeling, that people do realise what's right and what's wrong, but they still deside for the wrong route because of ... a finacial advantage.

Yes, most people are corrupt to the bone.

[halo2pc]

By the way, I cannot leave you a comment on your profile and neither do you accept PNs because of a friend lock.

Why do people decide to do this ?

[SpamAnn]

realisation in self honesty + self direction does do something.

[deliciousonionsoup]

Some people / a lot of people start drinking in their youth because "it's the done thing" / "to join in with the crowd". Then after that they use drinking as an excuse / as a means to numb things. So, basically the start of indulging in drink isn't always to numb out things but it can be (and often is) pure and simple indulgence in the first place. Of course some people start drinking to avoid pain and to numb out things too. Anyway, same result whatever the reason why one starts drinking.

[halo2pc]

Alright, so what would be the most important problem to solve first ?

What's the next logical step ?

[SpamAnn]

self honesty and self direction

[ahcult]

i cant see your other reply ... ..The point of life is to experience it and move on to the next phase ... what goes on in the middle is just filler whether its good or bad its all counted as experience.

life is fun and fun is life but what fun would life be without more fun inbetween.

The greatest minds of our time often enjoyed those things you seem to dislike to expand horizons and sometimes to just get high. some c things as failures some as c failures as learning oppurtunits.)

[GabrielZamoraMoreno]

atm education is merely a function of a survival-based system, aimed at sustaining itself through harvesting a capable workforce = the children

with eqaul money, education will actually be directed in the interest of the child and not of some system, education will be an expression and choice of the child and not an obligation taking possession of their lives to merely use them as meat for the machine

[89charl0tte89]

very interesting video . i wonder what you think about the idea of an unconditional basic income for everyone ?

[SpamAnn]

Thats actually something which is included in this equal money system :) Where everyone is given a basic income from birth till death. We are discussing this on the desteni forums.

[SpicyHam]

Frodo is very cute. HAHAHAH

[SpicyHam]

I agree, and you look sexy.

[isrealytrue]

Thanks Ann!