"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." - Albert Einstein
Richard, please that is such an ignorant statement to say that God created human in his own image. We are just one of the millions of species and among billions of planets that am sure have life, to say we humans look like God is a disgraceful statement. We have different races on the earth with so much differences between humans while some races are beautiful some races look more like animals (no offence meant to anyone, but its a fact), which race looks more like God?
The temples are built as per the rules laid out in the Agama shastra . The idols are made with particular mudras and are energized by tantras and mantras . The director of this movie did not do his homework properly, he should learn things before drawing superficial conclusions , dialogues that appeal only to mass and no sophistication and sense does it make it any superior ?
This insignificant asshole doesnt know wat hes is talking about. Has even tried to read geetha or bhagavatham or any hindu scrptures, he doesnt have any credibility to comment on lord krishna.
haha.. very good scene indeed - No offense to god - I donot support dialogues against GOD
But, what ever he said about today's people are very true -
Who would go to a temple if you know that your wishes will not come true. Why do you find good looking/famous temples only on costly / posh areas in a city? Why do many temple runners target only high class ppl for funds raising?
How many of us would cut hair if the fact would be that hair never grows again??
@dirtysandeep It doesn't hurt anyone in the world when you pray...at least the conventional way of praying...
praying can be seen like luck...when some one wears a rabbit foot in the western world, they believe that they will get lucky...and when some one prays it is pretty much for luck...
buddy, it doesn't hurt you when someone prays, but for muslims and other people who follow abrahamic religions it hurts when someone else prays to idols (though being born a Hindu, I know people actually pray to the almighty who is omnipresent )
It does not hurt me when people do what they like, but at the same time I have the freedom to express what I feel.
Everyone is free to say anything, if it hurts someone they should just ignore it. Tolerance is the biggest virtue!
@dirtysandeep Aah...I have a muslim friend & he respects my religion & I, as a Hindu, respect his! You are talking about few muslims & i am talking about muslims in general! he prays 5 times a day, i don't outright say "I hate you" & when i go to a temple and pray to an idol, he doesn't really care...
Again, you are talking about some idiots, who take religion Extremely seriously and i am talking about regular people.
And BTW tolerance is just another way of saying respectful!
@dirtysandeep well the thing is, as a christian, we are told not to worship any idols and that is seen as a pretty idiotic thing. i really don't think man made sculptures have any power over anything. and once again as a christian, whoever does not believe in Jesus Christ as a savior is doomed for eternity. and it is the duty of a christian to preach about his God to others so that they may know the real God.
@qwerty10113 read a bible, theres plenty of proof in there. now the same question goes back to you. whatever you believe in, what is your proof? I'd rather believe God created the world than it just poofed into being.
@zaracki92 i don't belong to any religion if you are looking to launch an attack on me based on my religion...
i did read parts of the bible...genesis etc...the world was not created in 6 days...b/c there is proof that earth existed for a much longer period than 6000 years...
and there is physical evidence to prove that humans have evolved from monkeys...which means god did not create humans...
i am not trying to offend you or your beliefs...just trying to have a decent debate...so your turn!
@qwerty10113 attack huh....i guess it really doesnt matter what you belong to as long as your not christian.
there is no proof that world existed for millions of years. carbon dating works with man made measures only. they could be wrong. same thing goes for the evolution theory. just because monkeys and humans share some genetic features doesnt mean one evolved from the other.
@zaracki92 for me: not respecting other people's beliefs = attacking.
you must be 18 ( assuming 92 is a year and not ur lucky number :) )...you must have taken some science classes...
my point is there is more than carbon dating to measure things...you don't even need that to measure back 7000 years (which will disprove the bible)...and i can explain you Charles Darwin's true work to prove evolution...its more than just genetics...you have environmental factors etc...
@zaracki92 as you know i am not a christian, so my i am not very intelligent...so you will have to explain me the the proofs in the bible...but i do remember 1 thing...your very bible tells you to respect other people and their beliefs, i can give you some verses if you want...
anyway...can you prove me that evolution is fake...can you prove me that earth existed for only 6k years...
BTW, carbon dating on a 10 year old will show it is 10 years...on a 50 year old = 50 years, 10k year old = 10k
@qwerty10113 i havnt dig deep into the bible searching for proof as to why believe in God. so i wouldnt know to tell you. i respect people and that they have different views than me. bible scorns idol worship and as a christian, i do too.
Even scientists agree than many factors could change the readings on carbon dating. what are the proofs that the world did exist before 6000years?
@zaracki92 The age of earth (4.54 billion years) has been calculated by using the half life of various radioactive elements in the oldest rocks.
It is NOT carbon dating which cannot work for objects over 100,000 years, and certainly not before plants evolved. There are many ways to determine the real age of earth, which is definitely over 6000 years...
Evolution is observable...darwin observed the evolution of plants and animals...
@zaracki92 and why do we still have monkeys if humans evolved from monkeys?...why do we still have england if america was colonized by english...
93% of members of national academy of sciences don't believe in god...btw, these members are some of the smartest (conventional) people on the planet...
if you want me to disprove your biblical beliefs directly...i can talk about the laws of thermodynamics...
I've got evidence to disprove each and every illogical thing (almost everything) in bible!
@qwerty10113 those "smart" people are only smart according to your standards. but anyways, theres nothing in the world you can do to disprove my belief. Thank you for your time though.
@zaracki92 i am not trying to disprove your belief...feel free to believe anything you want about the origins of earth...unless you are on some tv show or taking an exam, this knowledge about our origins is pretty useless...
I am just trying to see why people are substituting an illogical notion of god for every unknown element...i mean people used to worship the moon, until we landed on the moon (not a hoax)...just give science some time, it will answer all questions and disprove god...
@qwerty10113 it is not really illogical you know. the theory of evolution sounds illogical to me. if you didnt kno, people still worship the moon.
it is alright if my beliefs are wrong, maybe the bible is just another great story book, but IF the Bible is the truth, i would rather believe it and be saved at the end.
It is very unfortunate that when you find out that science was wrong and Christ is the true way, it might be too late for you. I'll pray for you anyways. Thank you.
@zaracki92 I see...What you are doing is restating Pascal's Wager...read up on it if you have time...it is very interesting.
BTW, Just b/c a lot of people believe something doesn't make it right ...Most Americans used to believe that all blacks were useless and a secondary race...it is obviously not right...you will understand this after you read about pascal's wager...
anyway, nice debating with you...if you have any questions about non-god things...i will be happy to help you...
Hi Richard, I do not exactly remember my comment on this video to which you replied, but like you do not believe in idols, I do not believe in Jesus as God. I believe in on God less than you do for the reasons you do not believe in other Gods. It's my duty as an agnostic to free people from the slavery or religion, so we can progress better, unlike your duty as a christian to preach people to reap benefits in the so-called 'Heaven'.
@dirtysandeep Religion is never slavery. Sure, it makes you live by certain standards and that might be considered slavery by some. When has religion been against progress? Unless, by progress you mean demoralizing the society. Then yes, it does.
My point is how do you define 'morals'? Why do you want me to refer to some man written book to look for morals? Why is it OK to kill animals to eat them and not kill a human? Why is human so important, if you look the structure of human body (and its DNA) it is more than 99% similar to its cousin 'apes'. Why should human be not killed and other animals like cow, goat and hen be killed? why so much self-importance? because 'humans' are the dominant species? God should not take sides
@dirtysandeep God created man to be a friend, a child and he created him in his own image. That is what makes humans more important. Everything else was created for man. The Bible is a man written book but the words from God.
God created the sun, set light and darkness to be separate. Thus creating day and night.
Looks like there are some interesting arguments going on here. Let me clarify you on a much asked stupid question 'How come monkeys are still around if humans originated from them'
Humans did not evolve from monkeys, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor Hominidae (someone correct me with the name if im wrong), there are millions of species on the earth, how come the skelital structure of humans is so similar to that of apes?
@dirtysandeep Because the creator chose to make them similar.
If you ask me, i'd rather believe that God created the world in 6 days than everything came to being following a "big bang". Just as you said, there are millions of species on earth, earth was placed at the right place in the universe, and everything on earth was set just right to hold all this life. So, you expect me to believe it just evolved into being?
Richard, thanks for the interesting points, a healthy discussion is always preferrable to hurl of abuses.
'6' days? How do you define a day? day is just a local definition and it varies, it is not a universal definition, why would God chose to tell you the time he took to create the earth in so called 'days'. Why would it take God so much time to create the universe, he is infinitely powerful and all knowledgeable.
Earth is just one of the trillions of planets orbitting several stars, The God would not need to set everything right on this planet to make 'life' possible, its just a sheer chance that everything was perfect on this planet for life to evolve, that is why you do not see any life on most of the planets near by. Say the probability for the conditions to be right for life in the entire universe is 10^-100, you would see life probabilistically on total_planets*10^-14
not to demean the hindu mythology, I completely agree with the dialogues! Keep your beliefs aside and start thinking with your heart, you'll realize how true his statements are
Of course, we must be open to debate about our beliefs and values, and constantly question them.. nothing wrong in that.
We are not like that famous "peaceful religion" that still beheads people for daring to speak against their religion.
But please learn to distinguish the propaganda from unscrupulous elements - in this case its MB - and genuine deliberation of the values of your culture.
We ask questions, discuss pros and cons and find out the truth.. all in a mature way.
a. Say Rama was a bad man because he left his pregnant wife in a forest
b. Say Krishna was a characterless man because he was married to so many women
c. Even say this - that Lord Narasimha was against HUMAN RIGHTS of Rakshasas and that he was guilty of Sadism and Torture of Hiranyakshipu with his brutal killing.
#6 I think such farcical rants are demeaning to us, the more you make those rants, the more stupid we ourselves look..
#4 Lord Krishna rescued 16,000 women who were daughters of various regional provinces from the hands of Narakasura, who was intending to sacrifice them for Tantrik powers.
After vanquishing him, he gave them shelter from society's ridicule and ostracization.
#5 It is also laughable for us to question GOD's chastity and character.. GOD ideally is Nirguna, but all his incarnations have been Saguna - Rama, Krishna, Narasimha - have all followed the most righteous conduct of their times !
Its obvious that you need a source for these values. we want these values to come from a million year old culture that has always existed.leftists wanna make their value
#2 You can lead a good, clean life w/o hurting society based on BUDDHA's 8-fold path... but following that will NOT elevate you spiritually.
#3 People who worship lord in the form of Idols are not wrong.. the image is the visual translation of what divine seers of the past saw in a state of communion with the Lord himself.
If opinions are presented without arguments, they cannot be called as FACTS.. the character who is supposed to present arguments in favor of hindu religion, chandra Mohan, is not even offering a single counter point to the leftist MB.
SOme facts that easily counter MB's childish argument:
#1 Of course, you can lead a clean life without believing in God - but how do you define a "clean life" ? Where do you get your values from to lead such a life ? From MTV ? From Naxalites ?
God is there for sure....do u people ever think that how this universe came in to existence ?ur mind will become blank,if u really go deep in to it..no answer...so what ever we can do,is just to live on this planet:)
Just because you do not know the answer to the question 'How the universe came into existence' you cannot conclude that God exists the way you imagine him to be (omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent)
It just means that it is something you do not have an answer for yet! Did you know a 10,000 years ago that earth revolves around sun and other interesting things that we now know about the universe?
@qwerty10113 ..Dear frnd, one cannot prove there is god and at the same that he is not. Its our belief. From childhood, if our parents shows one picture and explains his powers , then we start praying. Depending on this belief, we enters in a religion stream. Moreover, I believe god is love and happiness and gudness. But I want u ask one thing. why even today people in some places are dying because of hunger. Don't he listen their prayers. Some people meet with worst accidents etc..
1. majority of people believe that god exists until someone can prove that he doesn't...
2. Maybe there is a reason why parents for thousands of generations tell us to pray...if it was that unproductive, like say hunting-gathering, we would've lost the subject long time ago!
3. can u physically show me goodness or love or happiness...no u can only observe its effects thru a human's actions...just like god!
4. i don't recall ever employing god to protect us1
even if u do think that god works for humans...y r forgetting about people who are successful... I have food & i never had an accident. i pray & maybe god heard my prayers & gave me a good life...You are looking @ part of the glass that is empty and i am looking @ part that is full...i think u would agree with me when i say that a huge majority of people who BELIEVE in god and pray have a good life...may those who die didn't pray...
dude, just because you cannot answer those questions right now, it does not mean that God created all that, science is still in a nascent state. People used to worship sun and moon sometime ago and man has recently stepped on the very moon people used to worship, now please dont ask me to prove that man did step on the moon.
I cannot prove to you that God does not exist, nor do I know it precisely. I just do not know if he exists or not. I am an agnostic, I have an open mind.
@dirtysandeep maybe god is the answer to those questions...maybe not...
Until someone proves something...everyone is entitled to their beliefs and people, scientists or priests, should respect other people's beliefs...you don't have to accept there is a god...just respect someone's belief...
assume worship is another word for respect in religion...we respect/worship sun for its awesome power...and moon, we do it b/c it might be our future planet/our home...surely u respect ur house!
This is in answer to this particular comment regarding 'respect'. You cannot just go and respect everything in the world. For example a muslim does not respect a Hindu's idol worship, because it is completely against his religion.
'Freedom of speech' is the fundamental right of every human being.
@dirtysandeep I don't want anyone to respect everything...and lets go by your list of fundamental rights...
Most countries (I mean democratic countries) have a list of those fundamental rights in their constitutions...give me just one of those countries that doesn't have "Freedom of Religion" in their constitutions...
Even if you don't want to, you still have to respect every's religion because it is the law!
dude, freedom of religion means, everyone is free to follow any religion but at the same time it does not forbid others to talk bad about other religions
To be able to talk about anything anywhere at anytime is the essence of 'freedom of speech'. Coming to the western world, for example in the U.K Muslims walked on the streets of London shouting damaging statements on Christianity and U.K was tolerant of this, that's the real freedom of speech.
@dirtysandeep I think when you speak bad about certain things...the goverment will either fine you or put you in jail b/c of public nuisance...There are limits to your freedom of speech...for example in your western world, speaking about kkk in US in public will probably get you in jail!
Freedom of religion is government will not interfere in your religion or your practices and like GOOD citizens, others will do the same!
@dirtysandeep There is no agnost in the middle. U either believe or u dont thats it. If someone says there is something in the middle then thats hypocracy
@vijayabme It's the believers and non-believers that are hypocrites, you may just believe but never be able to prove what you believe is true!
Get your basics right before jumping into an argument. Here is what dictionary says about 'agnostic'
"A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god"
@vijayabme It's the believers and non-believers that are hypocrites, you may just believe but never be able to prove what you believe is true!
Get your basics right before jumping into an argument, here is what dictionary says about 'agnostic'
"A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god"
@dirtysandeep Read wat u have written down again. U dont believe that God exists and at the same time wudnt say he doesnt exist. wat is that btw? Maybe it can be called confusion.
buddy you are mistaken, I do not believe either is true just because I cannot logically prove to myself that one of them is true for sure! Everything in life is not binary, somethings could be 'fuzzy' too!
Read more about agnosticism on wikipedia, youtube does not allow me to post the link
something about it is quoted in our very own rig veda, follow the links in wikipedia
This Mohanbaba if he has courage must comment on kuran and say allah is not there...let me see if he has courage...he must also say..all muslims who do namaz....must not do as that is waste..he wont dare to say such things against islam because he will be killed by some islamic fanatic...!! simply because hindus are a soft and gentle peaceloving lot...he wags his toungue to gain popularity...he must also stop worshipping shirdi sai baba then...all hypocricy and double standards...
@vamsikrishna02 did u seen ur grand parents.. NO.. but you have to believe that u have grand parents.. like that.. we hav to believe in lord krishna and rama..
This is scene is only for showing off the acting skills.. can be accepted that the action was good.. but it does not mean that anyone could just talk bad about the supreme Lord Srikrishna. There are quite a lot of reasons which can explained for whatever cheap thinking people have about Krishna. Chathanaythe Bhaagavatham therichi chaduvukomanaale. To prove oneself's prowess, there is no need to insult God. Supporting the meaning of the dialogue is as heinous as killing our own mother.
who the hell wrote these dialogues...asalu okati telusa neelu boomi vayu are all form of energy.evanni devudi ninche ostayi.antaguda teliyeni dadamma .who is he to comment on god..foolish fellow.....
all the women who married krishna were bhaktulu.....it is called madhura bava in hinduism where the devotees marry their ista daivam....or their gods.....and do seva to god just as married lady does service to her husband.
We have to understand that most of the hindu scriptures are symbolic and should not be taken literally
krishnudu gurinchi teludu kana ee vedhava vadi bharyani champi ame chelelini pelli chesukunaadu, veedi panimanichini padu chesu murder chesadu ee chettana lofer gadu god gurinchi matladadam lk ga moska ra madarchod
I just only .oooo1 % agree with this fact. Krishna the supreme god married those women because those pure women was once ago sent into to the prison for a long time. Actually I wanted to ask a question to you guys who gave a comment on this stupid dialogue will anyone marry a women who was kept in the prison for a long time no!!! As a god Krishna had a very big heart and in order to restore their (women) respect in the society the great god with a big heart married them.
but at the end the movie shows mohan babu believe in god....spirituality gives a person good behaviour,otherwise,u know wat type of culture & malpractices,acid attacks,rapes,stealings,etc,.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." - Albert Einstein
ravanksr 10 months ago
To say that commenting on Krishna and Gita on an Objective basis is objectionable is BIGOTED in the first place
ravanksr 11 months ago
Richard, please that is such an ignorant statement to say that God created human in his own image. We are just one of the millions of species and among billions of planets that am sure have life, to say we humans look like God is a disgraceful statement. We have different races on the earth with so much differences between humans while some races are beautiful some races look more like animals (no offence meant to anyone, but its a fact), which race looks more like God?
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
excellent dialog delivery...babu
venky2jalsa 1 year ago
The temples are built as per the rules laid out in the Agama shastra . The idols are made with particular mudras and are energized by tantras and mantras . The director of this movie did not do his homework properly, he should learn things before drawing superficial conclusions , dialogues that appeal only to mass and no sophistication and sense does it make it any superior ?
saintindian 1 year ago
@saintindian man made stone sculptures dont hold any powers...
zaracki92 1 year ago
This insignificant asshole doesnt know wat hes is talking about. Has even tried to read geetha or bhagavatham or any hindu scrptures, he doesnt have any credibility to comment on lord krishna.
saintindian 1 year ago
@saintindian dude comment on the character of the movie not the real actor.
lakshman4u 1 year ago
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Nice dialogues.... its real...Every religion in this world is created by humans only...
spellboundguy 1 year ago
Nice dialogues.... its real...Every religion in this world is created by humans only...
spellboundguy 1 year ago
Dannam pedithene kaapadevaadu Devudu kaadu Kooli
Entukante vaadu kooda kooli teesukune panichestunnadu kada
ravanksr 1 year ago
Why people disgrace others sentiments... that too of Hindus so easily, with out any fear...
Poor Lord Krishna has been branded by cinema idiots... as symbol of audeltry.
kkalluri1 1 year ago
though the film is superb
by talking about god badly is the reason the film had failed
huntmee 1 year ago
haha.. very good scene indeed - No offense to god - I donot support dialogues against GOD
But, what ever he said about today's people are very true -
Who would go to a temple if you know that your wishes will not come true. Why do you find good looking/famous temples only on costly / posh areas in a city? Why do many temple runners target only high class ppl for funds raising?
How many of us would cut hair if the fact would be that hair never grows again??
Very true statements indeed!!
Vikky0565 1 year ago
@Vikky0565
dude give me a 5! well said
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@Vikky0565
its called barter system when u go to temple just so ur wishes come true...religion is more than that!
The richest hindu temple in the world is on a hill...it is for sure not the costly / posh area and tirupati is not a city.
now you are talking about temple runners...not god...maybe god created idiots for the better of the world...no one can prove it
ever heard of annamaya...he gave up his whole life just to write poetry for god...i think life is more important than hair...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113
If you really do not pray God to get your petty desires fulfilled, I really appreciate you, not many in the world think in similar lines
If you are a true Hindu and are on your path to realizing the ultimate truth, I wish you all the best!
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep It doesn't hurt anyone in the world when you pray...at least the conventional way of praying...
praying can be seen like luck...when some one wears a rabbit foot in the western world, they believe that they will get lucky...and when some one prays it is pretty much for luck...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113
buddy, it doesn't hurt you when someone prays, but for muslims and other people who follow abrahamic religions it hurts when someone else prays to idols (though being born a Hindu, I know people actually pray to the almighty who is omnipresent )
It does not hurt me when people do what they like, but at the same time I have the freedom to express what I feel.
Everyone is free to say anything, if it hurts someone they should just ignore it. Tolerance is the biggest virtue!
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep Aah...I have a muslim friend & he respects my religion & I, as a Hindu, respect his! You are talking about few muslims & i am talking about muslims in general! he prays 5 times a day, i don't outright say "I hate you" & when i go to a temple and pray to an idol, he doesn't really care...
Again, you are talking about some idiots, who take religion Extremely seriously and i am talking about regular people.
And BTW tolerance is just another way of saying respectful!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep well the thing is, as a christian, we are told not to worship any idols and that is seen as a pretty idiotic thing. i really don't think man made sculptures have any power over anything. and once again as a christian, whoever does not believe in Jesus Christ as a savior is doomed for eternity. and it is the duty of a christian to preach about his God to others so that they may know the real God.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 jesus christ...oh you mean the guy from the religion which states that earth was built in 6 days 6000 years ago?
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 more like the son of God who built the earth and everything in it in 6 days.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 and can you prove it? can you prove that the earth is 6000 years old? can you prove that so called god created humans?
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 read a bible, theres plenty of proof in there. now the same question goes back to you. whatever you believe in, what is your proof? I'd rather believe God created the world than it just poofed into being.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 i don't belong to any religion if you are looking to launch an attack on me based on my religion...
i did read parts of the bible...genesis etc...the world was not created in 6 days...b/c there is proof that earth existed for a much longer period than 6000 years...
and there is physical evidence to prove that humans have evolved from monkeys...which means god did not create humans...
i am not trying to offend you or your beliefs...just trying to have a decent debate...so your turn!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 attack huh....i guess it really doesnt matter what you belong to as long as your not christian.
there is no proof that world existed for millions of years. carbon dating works with man made measures only. they could be wrong. same thing goes for the evolution theory. just because monkeys and humans share some genetic features doesnt mean one evolved from the other.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 for me: not respecting other people's beliefs = attacking.
you must be 18 ( assuming 92 is a year and not ur lucky number :) )...you must have taken some science classes...
my point is there is more than carbon dating to measure things...you don't even need that to measure back 7000 years (which will disprove the bible)...and i can explain you Charles Darwin's true work to prove evolution...its more than just genetics...you have environmental factors etc...
besides can you prove bible
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 i respect people, not necessarily their beliefs. i'm 17, and yes i've taken a few science classes :P
The bible proves itself. it might be a good idea to read it through. besides, you can do a simple google search and find that out.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 as you know i am not a christian, so my i am not very intelligent...so you will have to explain me the the proofs in the bible...but i do remember 1 thing...your very bible tells you to respect other people and their beliefs, i can give you some verses if you want...
anyway...can you prove me that evolution is fake...can you prove me that earth existed for only 6k years...
BTW, carbon dating on a 10 year old will show it is 10 years...on a 50 year old = 50 years, 10k year old = 10k
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 i havnt dig deep into the bible searching for proof as to why believe in God. so i wouldnt know to tell you. i respect people and that they have different views than me. bible scorns idol worship and as a christian, i do too.
Even scientists agree than many factors could change the readings on carbon dating. what are the proofs that the world did exist before 6000years?
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 The age of earth (4.54 billion years) has been calculated by using the half life of various radioactive elements in the oldest rocks.
It is NOT carbon dating which cannot work for objects over 100,000 years, and certainly not before plants evolved. There are many ways to determine the real age of earth, which is definitely over 6000 years...
Evolution is observable...darwin observed the evolution of plants and animals...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@zaracki92 and why do we still have monkeys if humans evolved from monkeys?...why do we still have england if america was colonized by english...
93% of members of national academy of sciences don't believe in god...btw, these members are some of the smartest (conventional) people on the planet...
if you want me to disprove your biblical beliefs directly...i can talk about the laws of thermodynamics...
I've got evidence to disprove each and every illogical thing (almost everything) in bible!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 those "smart" people are only smart according to your standards. but anyways, theres nothing in the world you can do to disprove my belief. Thank you for your time though.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 i am not trying to disprove your belief...feel free to believe anything you want about the origins of earth...unless you are on some tv show or taking an exam, this knowledge about our origins is pretty useless...
I am just trying to see why people are substituting an illogical notion of god for every unknown element...i mean people used to worship the moon, until we landed on the moon (not a hoax)...just give science some time, it will answer all questions and disprove god...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 it is not really illogical you know. the theory of evolution sounds illogical to me. if you didnt kno, people still worship the moon.
it is alright if my beliefs are wrong, maybe the bible is just another great story book, but IF the Bible is the truth, i would rather believe it and be saved at the end.
It is very unfortunate that when you find out that science was wrong and Christ is the true way, it might be too late for you. I'll pray for you anyways. Thank you.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92 I see...What you are doing is restating Pascal's Wager...read up on it if you have time...it is very interesting.
BTW, Just b/c a lot of people believe something doesn't make it right ...Most Americans used to believe that all blacks were useless and a secondary race...it is obviously not right...you will understand this after you read about pascal's wager...
anyway, nice debating with you...if you have any questions about non-god things...i will be happy to help you...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 ofcourse it doesnt make it right. not my point either.
thank you for the offer but i doubt i'd ever need that.
Richard
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92
Hi Richard, I do not exactly remember my comment on this video to which you replied, but like you do not believe in idols, I do not believe in Jesus as God. I believe in on God less than you do for the reasons you do not believe in other Gods. It's my duty as an agnostic to free people from the slavery or religion, so we can progress better, unlike your duty as a christian to preach people to reap benefits in the so-called 'Heaven'.
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep Religion is never slavery. Sure, it makes you live by certain standards and that might be considered slavery by some. When has religion been against progress? Unless, by progress you mean demoralizing the society. Then yes, it does.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92
My point is how do you define 'morals'? Why do you want me to refer to some man written book to look for morals? Why is it OK to kill animals to eat them and not kill a human? Why is human so important, if you look the structure of human body (and its DNA) it is more than 99% similar to its cousin 'apes'. Why should human be not killed and other animals like cow, goat and hen be killed? why so much self-importance? because 'humans' are the dominant species? God should not take sides
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep God created man to be a friend, a child and he created him in his own image. That is what makes humans more important. Everything else was created for man. The Bible is a man written book but the words from God.
God created the sun, set light and darkness to be separate. Thus creating day and night.
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92
Looks like there are some interesting arguments going on here. Let me clarify you on a much asked stupid question 'How come monkeys are still around if humans originated from them'
Humans did not evolve from monkeys, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor Hominidae (someone correct me with the name if im wrong), there are millions of species on the earth, how come the skelital structure of humans is so similar to that of apes?
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep Because the creator chose to make them similar.
If you ask me, i'd rather believe that God created the world in 6 days than everything came to being following a "big bang". Just as you said, there are millions of species on earth, earth was placed at the right place in the universe, and everything on earth was set just right to hold all this life. So, you expect me to believe it just evolved into being?
zaracki92 1 year ago
@zaracki92
Richard, thanks for the interesting points, a healthy discussion is always preferrable to hurl of abuses.
'6' days? How do you define a day? day is just a local definition and it varies, it is not a universal definition, why would God chose to tell you the time he took to create the earth in so called 'days'. Why would it take God so much time to create the universe, he is infinitely powerful and all knowledgeable.
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@zaracki92
Contd...
Earth is just one of the trillions of planets orbitting several stars, The God would not need to set everything right on this planet to make 'life' possible, its just a sheer chance that everything was perfect on this planet for life to evolve, that is why you do not see any life on most of the planets near by. Say the probability for the conditions to be right for life in the entire universe is 10^-100, you would see life probabilistically on total_planets*10^-14
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
thats not all////see the full film...at last he will realize....
royaledaras 1 year ago
same edhey dailouge chiru chipete keko keka annaevaru .
itsoneman 1 year ago
not to demean the hindu mythology, I completely agree with the dialogues! Keep your beliefs aside and start thinking with your heart, you'll realize how true his statements are
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
Of course, we must be open to debate about our beliefs and values, and constantly question them.. nothing wrong in that.
We are not like that famous "peaceful religion" that still beheads people for daring to speak against their religion.
But please learn to distinguish the propaganda from unscrupulous elements - in this case its MB - and genuine deliberation of the values of your culture.
We ask questions, discuss pros and cons and find out the truth.. all in a mature way.
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
#5 You may say anything :
a. Say Rama was a bad man because he left his pregnant wife in a forest
b. Say Krishna was a characterless man because he was married to so many women
c. Even say this - that Lord Narasimha was against HUMAN RIGHTS of Rakshasas and that he was guilty of Sadism and Torture of Hiranyakshipu with his brutal killing.
#6 I think such farcical rants are demeaning to us, the more you make those rants, the more stupid we ourselves look..
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
#4 Lord Krishna rescued 16,000 women who were daughters of various regional provinces from the hands of Narakasura, who was intending to sacrifice them for Tantrik powers.
After vanquishing him, he gave them shelter from society's ridicule and ostracization.
#5 It is also laughable for us to question GOD's chastity and character.. GOD ideally is Nirguna, but all his incarnations have been Saguna - Rama, Krishna, Narasimha - have all followed the most righteous conduct of their times !
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
Its obvious that you need a source for these values. we want these values to come from a million year old culture that has always existed.leftists wanna make their value
#2 You can lead a good, clean life w/o hurting society based on BUDDHA's 8-fold path... but following that will NOT elevate you spiritually.
#3 People who worship lord in the form of Idols are not wrong.. the image is the visual translation of what divine seers of the past saw in a state of communion with the Lord himself.
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
If opinions are presented without arguments, they cannot be called as FACTS.. the character who is supposed to present arguments in favor of hindu religion, chandra Mohan, is not even offering a single counter point to the leftist MB.
SOme facts that easily counter MB's childish argument:
#1 Of course, you can lead a clean life without believing in God - but how do you define a "clean life" ? Where do you get your values from to lead such a life ? From MTV ? From Naxalites ?
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
This is a typical example of how one-sided leftist/anti-hindu propaganda is eroding the moral fiber of Indian society.
Leftists go overboard in nitpicking every single detail from Indian history and judging it from a modern angle.
They however never do the same to either islam or christianity.
No wonder, ours is a loser nation that feeds food with worms to innocent Sadhvi Pragnya while feeding mutton biryani to Kasaab.
Eeswarabhakta 2 years ago
KOnchem istam... Konchem Kastam....
chaitu991 2 years ago
God is there for sure....do u people ever think that how this universe came in to existence ?ur mind will become blank,if u really go deep in to it..no answer...so what ever we can do,is just to live on this planet:)
enigma533 2 years ago
@enigma533
Just because you do not know the answer to the question 'How the universe came into existence' you cannot conclude that God exists the way you imagine him to be (omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent)
It just means that it is something you do not have an answer for yet! Did you know a 10,000 years ago that earth revolves around sun and other interesting things that we now know about the universe?
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep since you are talking about the universe and the earth revolving around the sun and all...i am assuming u r a science whiz!
So do you know what gravity looks like? can you show it to me...no
we can only observe gravity thru its effects...the apple fell down b/c of gravity...
Similarly...for all the actions that are happening in the universe, we can believe that these actions are just an effect of god...
maybe god made me reply to your comment...thats what i would like to believe!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113 ..Dear frnd, one cannot prove there is god and at the same that he is not. Its our belief. From childhood, if our parents shows one picture and explains his powers , then we start praying. Depending on this belief, we enters in a religion stream. Moreover, I believe god is love and happiness and gudness. But I want u ask one thing. why even today people in some places are dying because of hunger. Don't he listen their prayers. Some people meet with worst accidents etc..
joyking19 1 year ago
@joyking19
1. majority of people believe that god exists until someone can prove that he doesn't...
2. Maybe there is a reason why parents for thousands of generations tell us to pray...if it was that unproductive, like say hunting-gathering, we would've lost the subject long time ago!
3. can u physically show me goodness or love or happiness...no u can only observe its effects thru a human's actions...just like god!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
4. i don't recall ever employing god to protect us1
even if u do think that god works for humans...y r forgetting about people who are successful... I have food & i never had an accident. i pray & maybe god heard my prayers & gave me a good life...You are looking @ part of the glass that is empty and i am looking @ part that is full...i think u would agree with me when i say that a huge majority of people who BELIEVE in god and pray have a good life...may those who die didn't pray...
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@joyking19 . Those few are the ones like you......
girishie 1 year ago
@girishie Hey.I can't get you buddy..
joyking19 1 year ago
@girishie Hey.I can't get you buddy..
joyking19 1 year ago
@qwerty10113
dude, just because you cannot answer those questions right now, it does not mean that God created all that, science is still in a nascent state. People used to worship sun and moon sometime ago and man has recently stepped on the very moon people used to worship, now please dont ask me to prove that man did step on the moon.
I cannot prove to you that God does not exist, nor do I know it precisely. I just do not know if he exists or not. I am an agnostic, I have an open mind.
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep maybe god is the answer to those questions...maybe not...
Until someone proves something...everyone is entitled to their beliefs and people, scientists or priests, should respect other people's beliefs...you don't have to accept there is a god...just respect someone's belief...
assume worship is another word for respect in religion...we respect/worship sun for its awesome power...and moon, we do it b/c it might be our future planet/our home...surely u respect ur house!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113
This is in answer to this particular comment regarding 'respect'. You cannot just go and respect everything in the world. For example a muslim does not respect a Hindu's idol worship, because it is completely against his religion.
'Freedom of speech' is the fundamental right of every human being.
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep I don't want anyone to respect everything...and lets go by your list of fundamental rights...
Most countries (I mean democratic countries) have a list of those fundamental rights in their constitutions...give me just one of those countries that doesn't have "Freedom of Religion" in their constitutions...
Even if you don't want to, you still have to respect every's religion because it is the law!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@qwerty10113
dude, freedom of religion means, everyone is free to follow any religion but at the same time it does not forbid others to talk bad about other religions
To be able to talk about anything anywhere at anytime is the essence of 'freedom of speech'. Coming to the western world, for example in the U.K Muslims walked on the streets of London shouting damaging statements on Christianity and U.K was tolerant of this, that's the real freedom of speech.
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep I think when you speak bad about certain things...the goverment will either fine you or put you in jail b/c of public nuisance...There are limits to your freedom of speech...for example in your western world, speaking about kkk in US in public will probably get you in jail!
Freedom of religion is government will not interfere in your religion or your practices and like GOOD citizens, others will do the same!
qwerty10113 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep There is no agnost in the middle. U either believe or u dont thats it. If someone says there is something in the middle then thats hypocracy
vijayabme 1 year ago
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dirtysandeep 1 year ago
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@vijayabme It's the believers and non-believers that are hypocrites, you may just believe but never be able to prove what you believe is true!
Get your basics right before jumping into an argument. Here is what dictionary says about 'agnostic'
"A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god"
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
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@vijayabme It's the believers and non-believers that are hypocrites, you may just believe but never be able to prove what you believe is true!
Get your basics right before jumping into an argument, here is what dictionary says about 'agnostic'
"A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god"
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@dirtysandeep Read wat u have written down again. U dont believe that God exists and at the same time wudnt say he doesnt exist. wat is that btw? Maybe it can be called confusion.
vijayabme 1 year ago
@vijayabme
I am not able to post a response, youtube sucks!
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@vijayabme
buddy you are mistaken, I do not believe either is true just because I cannot logically prove to myself that one of them is true for sure! Everything in life is not binary, somethings could be 'fuzzy' too!
Read more about agnosticism on wikipedia, youtube does not allow me to post the link
something about it is quoted in our very own rig veda, follow the links in wikipedia
dirtysandeep 1 year ago
@vijayabme
btw I am not a regular youtube user, never mind if I take time to respond, you have a great day!
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dirtysandeep 1 year ago
thats the openion of an atheist and more over its a movie so just chill...
sanoreddy 2 years ago
i am not sure about the existence of god. but watever he said makes some sense. i believe in only one god that is my dad.
penuganchiprolu 2 years ago
very true
karrakapil 2 years ago
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kosarajub 2 years ago
Worst Dilogues Ever..how You can commnet on Lord Krishna and Geetha..
krishloop 2 years ago 8
This Mohanbaba if he has courage must comment on kuran and say allah is not there...let me see if he has courage...he must also say..all muslims who do namaz....must not do as that is waste..he wont dare to say such things against islam because he will be killed by some islamic fanatic...!! simply because hindus are a soft and gentle peaceloving lot...he wags his toungue to gain popularity...he must also stop worshipping shirdi sai baba then...all hypocricy and double standards...
LogicEmotionTruth 2 years ago
r u seen krishna????????????????
vamsikrishna02 5 months ago
@vamsikrishna02 did u seen ur grand parents.. NO.. but you have to believe that u have grand parents.. like that.. we hav to believe in lord krishna and rama..
krishloop 1 month ago
because.. censor guys are puppets in the hands of such bigshots...
vadansharma 2 years ago 2
how did the censors approve it..
ravikiranmatrix 2 years ago
@Chinna9182
Hello Mr.Chinna9182, you enjoy this very much i think. Can you translate to english?
dudelove1122 2 years ago
This is scene is only for showing off the acting skills.. can be accepted that the action was good.. but it does not mean that anyone could just talk bad about the supreme Lord Srikrishna. There are quite a lot of reasons which can explained for whatever cheap thinking people have about Krishna. Chathanaythe Bhaagavatham therichi chaduvukomanaale. To prove oneself's prowess, there is no need to insult God. Supporting the meaning of the dialogue is as heinous as killing our own mother.
vadansharma 2 years ago 4
@vadansharma "God" is to be used only for the true God jehova, so for your uses, please refer to your heap of mud as "god"
zaracki92 1 year ago
@vadansharma
mandavasr 1 year ago
@vadansharma I absolutely accept what these dialogues stand for
mandavasr 1 year ago
Prethi neech kamine kutte gadu hinduism ne comment cheyyatame.......... Hero eypodham ani.
Dhani meaning ento telusuko kunda.
nsasank 2 years ago 3
wow!!!! its true awesom dialogue
andy4117 2 years ago
hmm very meaningful!!
santoshtelugu 2 years ago
good one
haiderr747 2 years ago
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who the hell wrote these dialogues...asalu okati telusa neelu boomi vayu are all form of energy.evanni devudi ninche ostayi.antaguda teliyeni dadamma .who is he to comment on god..foolish fellow.....
karthik0121 2 years ago
abba chaa!!
factandlogic 2 years ago
awesome movie
good action
wonderful dialogues
evadaitenakenti007 2 years ago
all the women who married krishna were bhaktulu.....it is called madhura bava in hinduism where the devotees marry their ista daivam....or their gods.....and do seva to god just as married lady does service to her husband.
We have to understand that most of the hindu scriptures are symbolic and should not be taken literally
hydrakesh 2 years ago
krishnudu gurinchi teludu kana ee vedhava vadi bharyani champi ame chelelini pelli chesukunaadu, veedi panimanichini padu chesu murder chesadu ee chettana lofer gadu god gurinchi matladadam lk ga moska ra madarchod
srp112 2 years ago
veedi bondha. veedi sodi
but
adhe ye allah no jesus no vaadu ani vunte egabadi ban lu daddharillataalu jarigevi.... adhe mana hindhthvam lo vunna goppathanam
mahnusi 2 years ago
true
srp112 2 years ago
avunu avadhani garu
stonecold641 2 years ago
tamarEnTi, gODaa gaaru
mahnusi 2 years ago
antaniki vaalla lo thappulu levu kanna
007kanthi 2 years ago
I just only .oooo1 % agree with this fact. Krishna the supreme god married those women because those pure women was once ago sent into to the prison for a long time. Actually I wanted to ask a question to you guys who gave a comment on this stupid dialogue will anyone marry a women who was kept in the prison for a long time no!!! As a god Krishna had a very big heart and in order to restore their (women) respect in the society the great god with a big heart married them.
saratma8 2 years ago
so anyone can become a god by marrying the women who are prisoned?
007kanthi 2 years ago
but at the end the movie shows mohan babu believe in god....spirituality gives a person good behaviour,otherwise,u know wat type of culture & malpractices,acid attacks,rapes,stealings,etc,.
rahulkaran1990 2 years ago 4
What stupid comments about god.....
venkatesh060889 2 years ago
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chiru is good person..this time i will vote for chiru..i want change..i want a good leader..i think chiru can be..change is always good..
dellNaresh 3 years ago
very true.....
rishiroshan 3 years ago
excellent and superb dialogue and facts too
princeofgoud 3 years ago
I am not fan of Mohan Babu, but what he said is makes sense to me. Great dialogues
c69tube 3 years ago
yes ! I agree
kesa2ran 3 years ago
dialogue king mohanbabu
andhraking 3 years ago
dialogue kadu doku king
srp112 2 years ago
its 100% true .... thx 4 sharing
manchuoos 3 years ago
Great and True Dialoges
rajumadhur 3 years ago
i am not a fan of mohan babu... but this is one of my fav dialogs in telugu movies
sleeplessnights7745 3 years ago 2
Great Job Mohan Babuuu
srivaniii 3 years ago
nice...great job
gowtham5555 3 years ago
yes..they are true
princeofgoud 3 years ago
where is my comment??
holybanyan 3 years ago