The most important thing that Western parents should learn from Asian parents is not a focus on test scores or paper qualifications, but a concern for their children's success and performance, and a willingness to support and finance them. I know that my parents have made many sacrifices to send me to good schools and provide me with opportunities. Ultimately, the result that should be focused on is how well the child lives their life, not how many A's they get.
As a young Chinese man, I must say that "results-oriented" is not the right word to describe an educational system focused on test scores. Test scores are meaningless by themselves. They are a tool with which to judge a person's ability to recall and analyze certain material. However, they say nothing about how this knowledge is retained in the long term, or applied to useful things. Furthermore, if you are studying 16 hours a day, you are likely being too inefficient about it.
now I'm really curious as to how the lazy-ass Finns manage an education better than most of these asians. very little standardized testing and after school tutoring, that's for sure.
If they are the extreme in intense discipline, I think we might be on the opposite end of the continuum. Honestly, America needs more discipline in education. There were quite a few graduates from my high school who shouldn't have graduated for reasons such as not being able to even communicate in English well. An extreme style of upbringing may or may not be good, but steps towards a more disciplined and strict education system would not only be ideal but crucial to this country's future!
what i dont understand, why is it have to be more ab. parents then the kids. yes we get it, it gives parents braging right, my kid is better then u kid and by extension see im such a good parent bc my kid is accomplished this and that and im better then u. Dont see why the girl couldnt tell us about her accomplishments. her dad seems like he got his sex confused.
whats the cost for a nation? Id say limited. populace is obedient and those countries dont have any demographic problems. young working force who work a lot. i dont see problem.
i think the most powerful thing to learn is working with others and have others work with you and sharing and caring and thinking and planning together.
@damania those values u mentioned, apply more for Asian coutries, I think. In fact, In Japan u cannot be succesful working for corp, if u too individualised on u succes
too much indoctrination! independent thought in a school is a oxymoron. ciritical thinking can't be taught and if u criticize too much teachers, administrators, and govn't officials will get offended and you'll end up in the gulag.
@damania exactly. in fact, stand. edu.memorising is taught to suppress any critical thinking. I think its hurmful for elementary school. it suppresses childs natural ciriosity and wanting to learn. also kids think out of the box standard edu suppresses it too. to be a doctor, lawyer, engeener u have to do tons and tons memorer. buut thats later
atleast in the west, if you end up unemployed, you get a cheque from the govt every month to help you out but in most of Asia, that's non-existant...if you're unemployed, you're own on your own...NO homeless shelters(to sleep in at night) or No soup kitchens(to eat free food at)...Being poor or unemployed in Asia is not easy! It's tough!! It's easier to be poor, unemployed and homeless in Western countries than in Asia.
Asian society(not just east asia, even south asia(e.g. India, Sri Lanka) is very hyper competitive . I think the competitive spirit arises out of materialism(let's not deny that)..the definition of success is tied up with money(how much of it you are able to make) and money is tied up with your profession and profession is tied up with your educational achievement. also, welfare doesn't exist in Asia so you're own on your own! No govt handouts! So doing well in school is crucial to your future
good report al jazeera..though this was focused on chinese in hong kong. it's a bit similar in India too...every year, after the gruelling BOARD exams, one is bound to read or watch a news report about some o kid(or kids) killing themselves out of disappointment for failing the board exams. the board exams determine what college one gets into. that's why. but that doesn't mean all indian(or even chinese, i'm sure) parents are super demanding of their kids. there are many cool relaxed parents 2
@dharmaatdawn i'm indian and my parents are super chill..i was C student in high school....my mom always encouraged me to do better..but there was never any pressure..if there was, i'd probably have done better..the last time i got a tutor(outside of school) was in 7th grade and that was because i was failing Math(yeah..i suck at math still). it wasn't forced on me. i needed it in order to go to the 8th grade so i suggested tutoring to my parents. don't generalize dude. it's dumb
yea, Asian parents are quite strict on their children's relationship. Maybe early 20s before they can have relationship. Also, don't use that nerd cant get laid mentality to think about Asian. Having top grade is hotter to girls than being in a soccer team.
@leeo268 nice stereotyping. there are plenty of American Asians that a not nerds. who dont just study 17 h /day, who in fact rebeled from their parents dominance. Asians in Asia obviously have a different culture, as for having top grade is hotter for girls then a soccer player. ok, keep telling u that. we talking ab having well rounded personality. if all u do is study thats not hot. To balance study and social relatinships, u personal passion thats hot
Getting basics right.. knowing how to make the right decisions and ability to think on your feet social skills.. and failure are some of the things that allow for excellent individuals... imagine being afraid to make mistakes.. and then striving for perfection,,, what kind of boring life would that be.. my 2 paise.
@pdadhwal yes thats crazy, thats not life. its more like u living in u head. it leads to many thinks unability to make desions, always questioning u, inability to feel relaxed and good about u life. its paradox, if u dont fail u dont learn. but when so much rides on not failing ( and be top of the top) it can lead to disaster for individual.in Japan, they have the highest suicidal rate in developed world. in Japan, the couples dont have sex(bc very long work hours and lots of stress)
Too bad school doesn't always mean education. I know University graduates who are clueless about most things, how does that make them a better person?
It is NOT ironic but INSTRUCTIVE that the guy who makes tons of money --- from less educated parents who are willing to slave to pay over $100/hour to specialized tutors --- from teaching OTHER parents' kids, on how to conjugate & do appropriate diagramming sentences DOES NOT, himself, believe subjecting HIS OWN DAUGHTER to the same thing.
His kid's schedule is still highly rigid compared to some Westerners; but he shields her from the EXACT things he is PAID to do to other kids!
Education and doing well in life are two different aspects..if you want to live under pressure of others you will never get what you wanted..life for your dreams not someone elses..these chinese people eat too much snake and they become poisonous..lol!!
stress is all in the mind. just accept failure in your studies and move on. Don't blame the elite education system, whether in USA, India, China, Japan, Korea and Singapore. If one cannot compete in the academic arena, just move on. If the parents feel sad, then they are adults and have to accept it sooner or later. so what the media portray the harshness of the education system is purely subjective. many of us, poor or well off students have benefited greatly in this meritocracy system.
Go on. Study like people with no life. Where will that get you in 10 years time? Will you find a good job? Probably yes but will you succeed in life? Will you completed your life's desire? And will you be able to communicate well or maintain good physical health?
I know well what are they talking about, the problem is that with such a huge population competion is absolutely brutal, so if you want to have any chance of having access to higher education then you must to sacrifice your time and study, that's why many parents prefer to send their sons and daughter to study abroad:)
THis is wonderful AlJazeera, this was a heart warming story, thank You guys for showing Us this. It's heart warming because there's hope for kids that may be falling through the cracks in society instead of telling them to commit suicide if they're not good enough. Take Care People.
Not all asian parents are like that. I'm a Chinese living in Singapore and my parents give me quite a lot of freedom. Only a few of my friend's parents are actually that bad
@noelchan127 really ? let me quess u parents are loaded and u a free to search u personal happieness. But i dont know much about Singapore. were u born in Singapore or China?
@dharmaatdawn Yeah I am free to do anything I want. They do tell me about the importance of getting good results but it's totally up to me whether I want to work hard or not. I'm born in Singapore :)
im gonna raise my child tiger style too. but not too strict though, they will have more spare time for developing social skills and doing less intellectually challenging things.
life is never easy. why east asian immigrants in the west countries almost never crying for benefits or welfare? unlike some other races who just keep rioting on streets and continuing their lazy way of lives, east asian actually know the meaning of sacrifice and competitiveness.
@darkhabsburg useless ...success is not determined by competition..it is determined by uniqueness...if your idea is unique you stand out..not chasing the asses who got idea..guess your chinese parents were wrong about life..i feel sorry for you!
I don't have kids but it's quite amazing the difference in mindset between the eastern and western kids. The east has the drive and attitude that the west had when they were the industrial powers.
The most important thing that Western parents should learn from Asian parents is not a focus on test scores or paper qualifications, but a concern for their children's success and performance, and a willingness to support and finance them. I know that my parents have made many sacrifices to send me to good schools and provide me with opportunities. Ultimately, the result that should be focused on is how well the child lives their life, not how many A's they get.
FGsGFdG2 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 2011
As a young Chinese man, I must say that "results-oriented" is not the right word to describe an educational system focused on test scores. Test scores are meaningless by themselves. They are a tool with which to judge a person's ability to recall and analyze certain material. However, they say nothing about how this knowledge is retained in the long term, or applied to useful things. Furthermore, if you are studying 16 hours a day, you are likely being too inefficient about it.
FGsGFdG2 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 2011
very good 101 east, will be sharing this around
eshhy100 2 months ago
what is the name of the persons youtube channel at the start of the vid?
VOTE4HOLLAR 2 months ago
now I'm really curious as to how the lazy-ass Finns manage an education better than most of these asians. very little standardized testing and after school tutoring, that's for sure.
maximummask 2 months ago
If they are the extreme in intense discipline, I think we might be on the opposite end of the continuum. Honestly, America needs more discipline in education. There were quite a few graduates from my high school who shouldn't have graduated for reasons such as not being able to even communicate in English well. An extreme style of upbringing may or may not be good, but steps towards a more disciplined and strict education system would not only be ideal but crucial to this country's future!
smellycat389 2 months ago
what i dont understand, why is it have to be more ab. parents then the kids. yes we get it, it gives parents braging right, my kid is better then u kid and by extension see im such a good parent bc my kid is accomplished this and that and im better then u. Dont see why the girl couldnt tell us about her accomplishments. her dad seems like he got his sex confused.
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
whats the cost for a nation? Id say limited. populace is obedient and those countries dont have any demographic problems. young working force who work a lot. i dont see problem.
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
great mini-documentary
rcmontecalvo 2 months ago
... and are you happy... NO!
MEGIDIOT 2 months ago
Tiger parenting? Hahaha... It should be yellow (excluding Japan) monkey parenting.
cjewelz 2 months ago
i think the most powerful thing to learn is working with others and have others work with you and sharing and caring and thinking and planning together.
damania 2 months ago
@damania those values u mentioned, apply more for Asian coutries, I think. In fact, In Japan u cannot be succesful working for corp, if u too individualised on u succes
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
too much indoctrination! independent thought in a school is a oxymoron. ciritical thinking can't be taught and if u criticize too much teachers, administrators, and govn't officials will get offended and you'll end up in the gulag.
damania 2 months ago
@damania exactly. in fact, stand. edu.memorising is taught to suppress any critical thinking. I think its hurmful for elementary school. it suppresses childs natural ciriosity and wanting to learn. also kids think out of the box standard edu suppresses it too. to be a doctor, lawyer, engeener u have to do tons and tons memorer. buut thats later
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
It's all Greek to me.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
4:30
I hate you.
Javjean 2 months ago
When everyone is excellent. No one is.
pokemonyu 2 months ago
atleast in the west, if you end up unemployed, you get a cheque from the govt every month to help you out but in most of Asia, that's non-existant...if you're unemployed, you're own on your own...NO homeless shelters(to sleep in at night) or No soup kitchens(to eat free food at)...Being poor or unemployed in Asia is not easy! It's tough!! It's easier to be poor, unemployed and homeless in Western countries than in Asia.
heomak 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
lol 4:41 I thought that was her mother
jbags84 2 months ago
@jbags84
lol. Me too. omfg!!
Javjean 2 months ago
Asian society(not just east asia, even south asia(e.g. India, Sri Lanka) is very hyper competitive . I think the competitive spirit arises out of materialism(let's not deny that)..the definition of success is tied up with money(how much of it you are able to make) and money is tied up with your profession and profession is tied up with your educational achievement. also, welfare doesn't exist in Asia so you're own on your own! No govt handouts! So doing well in school is crucial to your future
heomak 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
good report al jazeera..though this was focused on chinese in hong kong. it's a bit similar in India too...every year, after the gruelling BOARD exams, one is bound to read or watch a news report about some o kid(or kids) killing themselves out of disappointment for failing the board exams. the board exams determine what college one gets into. that's why. but that doesn't mean all indian(or even chinese, i'm sure) parents are super demanding of their kids. there are many cool relaxed parents 2
heomak 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@heomak sorry not in India or China theres no cool relaxed parents
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
@dharmaatdawn i'm indian and my parents are super chill..i was C student in high school....my mom always encouraged me to do better..but there was never any pressure..if there was, i'd probably have done better..the last time i got a tutor(outside of school) was in 7th grade and that was because i was failing Math(yeah..i suck at math still). it wasn't forced on me. i needed it in order to go to the 8th grade so i suggested tutoring to my parents. don't generalize dude. it's dumb
heomak 2 months ago
Suicides,bad health, zits and generally weird geeky personalities are a few side effects
humaner 2 months ago
I bet these guys masturbate a lot and will be virgins into their late 30s.
MoronHunterD 2 months ago
@MoronHunterD just like you?
krazzed101 2 months ago
@krazzed101 NO .. just like you .. b/c I know your real name is HandCOCK
MoronHunterD 2 months ago
@MoronHunterD
yea, Asian parents are quite strict on their children's relationship. Maybe early 20s before they can have relationship. Also, don't use that nerd cant get laid mentality to think about Asian. Having top grade is hotter to girls than being in a soccer team.
leeo268 2 months ago
@leeo268 nice stereotyping. there are plenty of American Asians that a not nerds. who dont just study 17 h /day, who in fact rebeled from their parents dominance. Asians in Asia obviously have a different culture, as for having top grade is hotter for girls then a soccer player. ok, keep telling u that. we talking ab having well rounded personality. if all u do is study thats not hot. To balance study and social relatinships, u personal passion thats hot
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
It's too stressful to be studying in Asian school like seriously coz I almost gave up on my studies due to a lot of factors
Nickey94 2 months ago
Creepy.
youngbuck189 2 months ago
Ha, them goofy gooks.
youngbuck189 2 months ago
@youngbuck189 you're an idiot.
krazzed101 2 months ago
Getting basics right.. knowing how to make the right decisions and ability to think on your feet social skills.. and failure are some of the things that allow for excellent individuals... imagine being afraid to make mistakes.. and then striving for perfection,,, what kind of boring life would that be.. my 2 paise.
pdadhwal 2 months ago
@pdadhwal yes thats crazy, thats not life. its more like u living in u head. it leads to many thinks unability to make desions, always questioning u, inability to feel relaxed and good about u life. its paradox, if u dont fail u dont learn. but when so much rides on not failing ( and be top of the top) it can lead to disaster for individual.in Japan, they have the highest suicidal rate in developed world. in Japan, the couples dont have sex(bc very long work hours and lots of stress)
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
been there, done that. left 5 months of torture n i'm out of this asian hell
kaykentucky 2 months ago
Too bad school doesn't always mean education. I know University graduates who are clueless about most things, how does that make them a better person?
MrROTD 2 months ago
It is NOT ironic but INSTRUCTIVE that the guy who makes tons of money --- from less educated parents who are willing to slave to pay over $100/hour to specialized tutors --- from teaching OTHER parents' kids, on how to conjugate & do appropriate diagramming sentences DOES NOT, himself, believe subjecting HIS OWN DAUGHTER to the same thing.
His kid's schedule is still highly rigid compared to some Westerners; but he shields her from the EXACT things he is PAID to do to other kids!
HenryDavidT 2 months ago
I'm a university student in S.Korea and the pressure to compete is immense. You can't keep up with this Korean students!!!
MrSimkariuki 2 months ago
Education and doing well in life are two different aspects..if you want to live under pressure of others you will never get what you wanted..life for your dreams not someone elses..these chinese people eat too much snake and they become poisonous..lol!!
alienkishorekumar 2 months ago
stress is all in the mind. just accept failure in your studies and move on. Don't blame the elite education system, whether in USA, India, China, Japan, Korea and Singapore. If one cannot compete in the academic arena, just move on. If the parents feel sad, then they are adults and have to accept it sooner or later. so what the media portray the harshness of the education system is purely subjective. many of us, poor or well off students have benefited greatly in this meritocracy system.
AHHUAT2 2 months ago
Go on. Study like people with no life. Where will that get you in 10 years time? Will you find a good job? Probably yes but will you succeed in life? Will you completed your life's desire? And will you be able to communicate well or maintain good physical health?
SimplyAwesomeable 2 months ago
I know well what are they talking about, the problem is that with such a huge population competion is absolutely brutal, so if you want to have any chance of having access to higher education then you must to sacrifice your time and study, that's why many parents prefer to send their sons and daughter to study abroad:)
isarathai 2 months ago
@isarathai good points. Also u have to have money to be able to afford sending u kid abroad. irrespective, of all the points u mentioned.
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
@dharmaatdawn Life is cruel, if you don't hav money and you don't have the grades, then......;)
isarathai 2 months ago
LOL @The principal's speech ..best interpretation by Russel Peters! :D
alienkishorekumar 2 months ago
THis is wonderful AlJazeera, this was a heart warming story, thank You guys for showing Us this. It's heart warming because there's hope for kids that may be falling through the cracks in society instead of telling them to commit suicide if they're not good enough. Take Care People.
akai454 2 months ago
Not all asian parents are like that. I'm a Chinese living in Singapore and my parents give me quite a lot of freedom. Only a few of my friend's parents are actually that bad
noelchan127 2 months ago
@noelchan127 really ? let me quess u parents are loaded and u a free to search u personal happieness. But i dont know much about Singapore. were u born in Singapore or China?
dharmaatdawn 2 months ago
@dharmaatdawn Yeah I am free to do anything I want. They do tell me about the importance of getting good results but it's totally up to me whether I want to work hard or not. I'm born in Singapore :)
noelchan127 2 months ago
im gonna raise my child tiger style too. but not too strict though, they will have more spare time for developing social skills and doing less intellectually challenging things.
nem700 2 months ago
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life is never easy. why east asian immigrants in the west countries almost never crying for benefits or welfare? unlike some other races who just keep rioting on streets and continuing their lazy way of lives, east asian actually know the meaning of sacrifice and competitiveness.
darkhabsburg 2 months ago
@darkhabsburg useless ...success is not determined by competition..it is determined by uniqueness...if your idea is unique you stand out..not chasing the asses who got idea..guess your chinese parents were wrong about life..i feel sorry for you!
alienkishorekumar 2 months ago
I don't have kids but it's quite amazing the difference in mindset between the eastern and western kids. The east has the drive and attitude that the west had when they were the industrial powers.
delatroy 2 months ago
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darkhabsburg 2 months ago
Chinese parents are too demanding..looks like as if they are the boss of the kids!!:P
alienkishorekumar 2 months ago
@alienkishorekumar parent is the boss of their kid.
krazzed101 2 months ago
ahh i remember he time i had to wear grey pants a white shirt and how it made be ITCH LIKE HELLL
Abbadon380 2 months ago 2
@Abbadon380 I can relate but in the Philippines they wear you khakis
bads06 2 months ago