1 SCO / into 2 SCO per hour and 1/1'000'000 have a mutation. Let's say the SCO has 2 days to live. Meaning in the time period of the first SCO there will be 2^48-1 SCO's 2^20 is more than 1M. 2^28 out of 2^48 will have a mutation. That's 268'435'456 mutated SCO 2^8 of them have mutated twice. In the next 100days 2^2400 dividings. 2^2400 is a big number compared with the penny 2^1000 in fact that there are less stars that can be observed from the earth with any telescope known to man.
Probability can't be used to predict the likelihood of a past event. It can only be used to predict future outcomes when the proper variables are used.
Probable outcomes need to consider two things: odds, and the number of trials. This is why lotteries are won all the time. The astronomically low odds of winning are easily overcome by the vast number of tickets being generated through sales. Same thing happened in nature. Lots of chemical reactions ultimately produced some living things.
This is just a reply to Minecraft4life1000. I believe the final digit in the number I posted as a reply to the video was a 6, which ends in an even number (since 6 is even). You must have copy-pasted it wrong as last 10 digits are 668069376. I'm also not sure that throwing 1000 pennies would really work since each one would need to be flipped - with your thumb just barely under the edge. However, taking even vs. odd timings of a geiger counter should work.
I have to object to Zinnia not using words like "approximately" or "roughly". 2^1000 actually equals 10715086071862673209484250490600018105614048117055336074437503883703510511249361224931983788156958581275946729175531468251871452856923140435984577574698574803934567774824230985421074605062371141877954182153046474983581941267398767559165543946077062914571196477686542167660429831652624386837205668069376, which is not a 1 followed by 301 zeros. Other than this, though, I liked the video.
hey hold on one second you are discussing the theory of life then next evolution two different theories with very different levels of proof. I don't suppose it actually matters
since the people you are trying to convince will not listen, but good luck on being the first to reach even one of them. Personally I think I will keep the tenner.
@roserick123 that would be very fun! but I would check if you are using through (throo) or throw (thrō), which don't even sound the same. but yes, throwing pennies at people would be fun!
Many many top ranked scientists believe in God and a designed or controlled evolution, but who are they compared to this she it. By the way its own argument for evolution supports the existence of God.
lol this has nothing to do with you or the content of the video but i thought the title said "a thousand penises" at first! haha btw love the hello kitties :)
Edgra uphrica ek juonokia ja Amazing Atheist grogel fraka ka keile uh ek uphrica ZJemptv, edgra pok unca unca VenomFangX, fraka ka fraka ka......heheheheeheheheheheheheh.
Evolutionary diversity within Christianity: If the entire human race is descended from Adam and Eve (and evolutionary theory has their genetic equivalents), how did those two sets of DNA lead to so many different types of humans without evolution and mutation? (Natural selection making it so that we don't have even more crazy results of mutations gone drastically wrong)
Just something to ponder. Sorry if it's not incredibly well thought-out.
@Leontopodium7 Actually there is a biblical explanation for this and it's pretty retarded. Basically, Adam and Eve were superhumans who came to live over 900 years because they were closest to God and that near perfection got distributed amongst the later generations (the fathers of the human tribes) so that in the end humans are diverse, but with a much shorter lifespan.
@Leontopodium7 And similarly, if all organisms weren't on The Ark, then where did they all come from, if not evolution? If he only had two of each "kind", and only, say, 1000 "kinds" can fit on that size ark, then where did the additional 10 million current species come from? Even evolution theory doesn't claim 10 million species in the span of only 6000 years. The real evolution claims 10 million species in 4 billion years and can support that with evidence. Where's their evidence hyper-evo?
You make no sense saying what you think because you dont think this and we dont get you because you are wrong about what you arent thinking and your thoughts have nothing to do with anything because everything is what you are trying to say but you are not at all saying this because you make perfect sense
Your penny argument only demonstrates the impossibility of evolution. In your scenario, you accept any outcome as an improbable success. Unfortunately there's nothing improbable about flipping 1000 pennies and getting an outcome. But now lets say there is a specific outcome you are looking for, a decided upon combination. And lets scale it up to evolutionary terms as you did. As you state, it's extremely unlikely you would get that result in the time the universe has existed.
@ZJemptv True. There are many possible permutations of evolutionary process. But the limiting factor is natural selection. Any mutational outcome can occur in nature, but very few outcomes will be favored by natural selection. Thus there is always a very specific and small set of outcomes you are flipping coins for.
@calandur "Any mutational outcome can occur in nature, but very few outcomes will be favored by natural selection. Thus there is always a very specific and small set of outcomes you are flipping coins for."
Actually, many mutations are somewhat positive, or sufficiently neutral so as not to subject the organism to an increased chance of elimination by natural selection. The space of possible outcomes that work really isn't "very specific and small" at all. This is why evolution works.
So. People are very keen to compare two scenarios. #1 the universe without life #2 the universe with life. What they forget is that lifes is a POSSIBILITY. and not the antitetical opposite of the non-existance of life. Say instead of the advent of life there had be the advent of an immaterial something, that could think but not speak... like oniric spirits or even ideas... this "things" (whom you wouldnt be able to call living beings>>
... well, maybe they could be (but probably not) discussing they're origins like we are now. Anyway, in my point of view, universe is like a very big clock, and it's events could be really well predicted with the right tools. And, of course, life's a subproduct of the way this universe is made. Period.
The pennies do have to fall in a specific way but you are missing that only a very tiny amount of the possible combinations will work for the evolution. That makes it improbable.
Some think that is so improvable that it is almost impossible, and I agree with you, even if there is one chance in almost infinite there is still one chance, but is it reasonable to believe in something so improbable?
Probabilities do not apply to the existing of God since it isn't related to chances.
Coin tosses in Nature can happen over gradients.. thus there might be more 'heads' at one part a body of water (for instance) and more 'tails' at another; with all the possible variations nicely spread out in-between. limited by things like molecular geometry and even fractal forms emerging in 'mixes'.
Just today I read in newScientist that the addition of a little rain water might have introduced chemical factors which allowed RNA helices to form in early Earth chemistry.
how can you tell if something is improbably or not unless you have alternative situations where it didn't happen. If you only have one universe, how can.. you say.. whether it itself is probable or not?
I just finished reading Carl Sagan's book "Billions and Billions" and agree that so much of the world (humans) would benefit a great deal by understanding big numbers. They're not hard, and they explain so much.
if the fact that anything exists is in itself God, then you have modified the definition of God from an entity to the concept of existance. the fact that anything exists proves only itself, not the existance of god, before humans the concept of god wasnt around was it, in animals, dinosaurs etc, did god exist then? and even if god exists in this manner, god is certainly not what is reffered to in religious texts. they refer to an entity which restricts natural processes of life and reality
who said it came from nothing? what if the universe has always existed, there is no reason why it couldnt have. meerly because we humans have to label and catagorise things into groups we can understand doesnt mean that everything is so. plus your neglecting higher scientific concepts such as anti matter, parallel realities etc. you just made yourself look stupid by insulting someone who has presented a good argument, which you countered with a bad one.
funny how your argument is to point out that science agrees with something, so even though i can disaprove god with science, you are more than happy to use other elements of it to counter me, so long as it doesnt contradict your beleifs. its also funny that your final argument is based on an insult, which there is no basis for because all you know of me is my previous argument, and from this you extrapolate about my lifes quality, i dont even need to counter that argument, you did it for me!
thats not a loop, you asked a question, it was answered (quite well) and you chose to repeat the question, which yeilded the same answer, thats not an un ending loop of argument. thats just two people repeating themselves.
Is it worth considering that there is a designer behind all that exists - sort of a original thinking mind that is outside time and space, manifesting itself through manipulation of thought with a combination of random elements , in a space and time matrix, in order to experience itself becoming - that all of us and all that exists, IS that becoming ! That we are expressions of this one mind, having subjective and self conscious experiences ?
a designer behind all that exists? i imagine that it is NOT worth considering that. by the very nature of the sentence it is logically impossible. the designer must exist in order to create existance, which shows that a designer could not exist before the designer existed.
If it is not worth considering, then you might try considering that YOU don't exist - in fact you might consider that every thing you do, and are, is an accident, and not to be taken too seriously! You and I and everything that exists, is the result of intention [although it may have been an accident that resulted] we exist by design - the evidence is all around us! I don't subscribe to a "god" per-say, but that all existence is an accident, is as lame as a biblical god !
you create a false dichotomy when you say that there either must be a designer or that everything is an accident. is it an accident that objects attract each other through gravity? is there someone intentionally pulling the objects together?
ya but.. you forgot where UFOS come from LOL... UFOS FFS, UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT LOL NOT FRM EARTH, THEY ARE CREATED BY GOD... lolollololo rofl.. DR PEPPER DOESNT GIVE AIDS!!!
Yep you're pretty much right there, its a very weak argument built off something which is a common misconception when uninformed people discuss evolution. What you've said on this clip was very concise and well presented. well done. Your argument actually made me laugh because your tone of voice suggested an undercurrent which is screaming "how come people can't figure this out with there own brains?" its not difficult, it just requires logical thought.
And who the hell do you think labled all the pennies and threw them?????? the universe and who do you think threw the penies so that the universe would come to this?????????
I think your very smart and seems like someone who's had a couple debates with irrationals. Do you use big words with them, because Ive tried an they simply ignore the statement.
Do you ever feel you have to dumb down so they understand you?
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mathematically shes smart, and has a very logical way of thinking , but realisticall shes the dumbest woman alive.
religion doesnt require maths to make sense. god made the earth to sustain human life by making it have pefect conditions. IF the earth was any further away from the sun we would all be dead etc etc. its to much to say that we came here through probability, and i sure as hell wont believe something that has a 1 in (huge number) chance, ill take the believable approach and choos god
So what's the probability that a god exists? 1 in... what? If the universe didn't have conditions that allow for our existence, we just wouldn't exist. And we wouldn't be around to observe how perfect the universe seems to be. It's that simple.
By the way, why would a god make 99% of the universe uninhabitable and hostile to life?
um, how do you know its not inhabitable. have you explored deep into the universe have you. wait, maybe you are god because you seem to have all the answers.
and no, its not 'that' simple. i refuse to believe and cannot believe that this was just a accident. by looking at the details such as the human anatomy to minuscule things such as the structure of a leaf, i know that there is a god.
and i know this before even refering to a bible.and ill pray for you =] that you will understand also.
I suggest launching yourself into the vacuum of space without the protection of a space suit or a ship, and you can report back to us on just how inhabitable it is. Who knows, maybe it's actually nice and balmy like Aruba.
well ZJ, God puts lots of people through hell on earth, but all the awards and goodness comes in heaven..its sorta like a test. that makes sense. or no? reply to this please.
it aint like a school "test" its a test of life.... some ppl fail some pass. and there's more to life than just it being a test... live it the wanna u wanna... do what u gotta do. but when da day comes for judgment ur on your own.
It makes no sense that your god would put everyone here, and say okay, you can do what you want for oh lets say 80 years providing you don't get killed, or walk off a cliff, and once you die I'm going to tell you whether or not you lived up to the contradictory rubric I wrote. Oh by the way, if at any time you feel lost just close your eyes and think about what you need, and I will ignore everyone else to listen to your thoughts.
iight Fyzzikz, God owes us nothing at all. so he doesn't have to do anything for us. he can, but he doesn't have to. thats just like you working for free at mcdonalds, why do it? you owe them nothing.
That analogy is not even close to relevant. A more suitable analogy, using your job at McDonalds, is giving a customer a burger, and getting another customer to relay the exact procedure to eat that burger, and if they don't follow it they will get food poisoning and die. And yes the burger was free, they had a coupon or something. As for the second thought, your god doesn't exist and I'm not going to bother thinking of another analogy to try to explain it to you because you won't listen anyway.
See this why I was hesitant to respond in the first place, you're already accusing me of being "hard headed". I am in fact not an atheist, you might do well to learn there are more than just your religion in the world.
Also, feel free to believe in what you will, I'm just saying what I believe in, I'm not saying this as an argument, just as a way of letting you know what I think.
I agree on part of that, Earth is in a perfect condition and that is why life is here, you see thats the theory behind evolution life was created elsewhere but it wasn't sustanable and it died off then life was created here it was sustanable and we didn't die off.
it's the watch on the island thing... creationists use it in practically every video. talk about desperation, when that bogus argument reaches the top of their list.
1 SCO / into 2 SCO per hour and 1/1'000'000 have a mutation. Let's say the SCO has 2 days to live. Meaning in the time period of the first SCO there will be 2^48-1 SCO's 2^20 is more than 1M. 2^28 out of 2^48 will have a mutation. That's 268'435'456 mutated SCO 2^8 of them have mutated twice. In the next 100days 2^2400 dividings. 2^2400 is a big number compared with the penny 2^1000 in fact that there are less stars that can be observed from the earth with any telescope known to man.
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The only thing I would do with a thousand pennies is pelt Christians with them.
IAmSuchANerdLol 1 month ago in playlist Religion
Probability can't be used to predict the likelihood of a past event. It can only be used to predict future outcomes when the proper variables are used.
Probable outcomes need to consider two things: odds, and the number of trials. This is why lotteries are won all the time. The astronomically low odds of winning are easily overcome by the vast number of tickets being generated through sales. Same thing happened in nature. Lots of chemical reactions ultimately produced some living things.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
This is just a reply to Minecraft4life1000. I believe the final digit in the number I posted as a reply to the video was a 6, which ends in an even number (since 6 is even). You must have copy-pasted it wrong as last 10 digits are 668069376. I'm also not sure that throwing 1000 pennies would really work since each one would need to be flipped - with your thumb just barely under the edge. However, taking even vs. odd timings of a geiger counter should work.
MrJasbur1 3 months ago
@MrJasbur1 Oh, my mistake. I thought it was 7.
Minecraft4life1000 3 months ago
I have to object to Zinnia not using words like "approximately" or "roughly". 2^1000 actually equals 10715086071862673209484250490600018105614048117055336074437503883703510511249361224931983788156958581275946729175531468251871452856923140435984577574698574803934567774824230985421074605062371141877954182153046474983581941267398767559165543946077062914571196477686542167660429831652624386837205668069376, which is not a 1 followed by 301 zeros. Other than this, though, I liked the video.
MrJasbur1 3 months ago
@MrJasbur1 2 to the power of anything (including 100) cannot end in an odd number.
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hey hold on one second you are discussing the theory of life then next evolution two different theories with very different levels of proof. I don't suppose it actually matters
since the people you are trying to convince will not listen, but good luck on being the first to reach even one of them. Personally I think I will keep the tenner.
way2jaded1 5 months ago
@roserick123 that would be very fun! but I would check if you are using through (throo) or throw (thrō), which don't even sound the same. but yes, throwing pennies at people would be fun!
PoliMeim 8 months ago
I've fallen out of bunkbeds.
stephen3398 8 months ago
I thought the title said, "A thousand penis," and got excited. I was disappointed. Well, then, good thing the video was still worth watching.
Note: It seems, judging by the other comments, I'm not alone in this mistake.
TheCeejReturns 8 months ago
Many many top ranked scientists believe in God and a designed or controlled evolution, but who are they compared to this she it. By the way its own argument for evolution supports the existence of God.
daddyg321 1 year ago
lol this has nothing to do with you or the content of the video but i thought the title said "a thousand penises" at first! haha btw love the hello kitties :)
sparklemycitybabyx3 1 year ago
creationism
KNiFiNGxM0F0 1 year ago
creationism
KNiFiNGxM0F0 1 year ago
That's like the coolest binary dice roll I've ever heard of.
Toddgpoole 1 year ago
Your teddy bears behind you want to kill themselves. Every day more of his droning, lonely bullshit..
TheSwagzter 1 year ago
@TheSwagzter
Those are cats actually. And cats are intellectuals, so this kind of stuff tickles them.
gguilford72 1 year ago
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hey dude your a fucking faggot
DaBossk 1 year ago
Edgra uphrica ek juonokia ja Amazing Atheist grogel fraka ka keile uh ek uphrica ZJemptv, edgra pok unca unca VenomFangX, fraka ka fraka ka......heheheheeheheheheheheheh.
LeonTrollsky 1 year ago
god is real and ur a flameing faggot
AbsolutProdigy 1 year ago
lmao when i first looked at the title i thought it said "a thousand penises" lol but great vids anyway
Koolkid736 1 year ago
Evolutionary diversity within Christianity: If the entire human race is descended from Adam and Eve (and evolutionary theory has their genetic equivalents), how did those two sets of DNA lead to so many different types of humans without evolution and mutation? (Natural selection making it so that we don't have even more crazy results of mutations gone drastically wrong)
Just something to ponder. Sorry if it's not incredibly well thought-out.
Leontopodium7 1 year ago
@Leontopodium7 Actually there is a biblical explanation for this and it's pretty retarded. Basically, Adam and Eve were superhumans who came to live over 900 years because they were closest to God and that near perfection got distributed amongst the later generations (the fathers of the human tribes) so that in the end humans are diverse, but with a much shorter lifespan.
noxure 1 year ago
@Leontopodium7 And similarly, if all organisms weren't on The Ark, then where did they all come from, if not evolution? If he only had two of each "kind", and only, say, 1000 "kinds" can fit on that size ark, then where did the additional 10 million current species come from? Even evolution theory doesn't claim 10 million species in the span of only 6000 years. The real evolution claims 10 million species in 4 billion years and can support that with evidence. Where's their evidence hyper-evo?
HarshColby 1 year ago
If you had a thousand pennies you would have $10 dollars
billydeeuk 1 year ago
OMFG HELLO KITTEEH 8P
Scotmonsta 1 year ago
I thought it said a thousand penises!
GallusSapien 1 year ago
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You make no sense saying what you think because you dont think this and we dont get you because you are wrong about what you arent thinking and your thoughts have nothing to do with anything because everything is what you are trying to say but you are not at all saying this because you make perfect sense
294ongaurd 1 year ago
Your penny argument only demonstrates the impossibility of evolution. In your scenario, you accept any outcome as an improbable success. Unfortunately there's nothing improbable about flipping 1000 pennies and getting an outcome. But now lets say there is a specific outcome you are looking for, a decided upon combination. And lets scale it up to evolutionary terms as you did. As you state, it's extremely unlikely you would get that result in the time the universe has existed.
calandur 1 year ago
@calandur Evolution doesn't have a "specific outcome". It's a process without a defined end goal.
ZJemptv 1 year ago 12
@ZJemptv True. There are many possible permutations of evolutionary process. But the limiting factor is natural selection. Any mutational outcome can occur in nature, but very few outcomes will be favored by natural selection. Thus there is always a very specific and small set of outcomes you are flipping coins for.
calandur 1 year ago
@calandur "Any mutational outcome can occur in nature, but very few outcomes will be favored by natural selection. Thus there is always a very specific and small set of outcomes you are flipping coins for."
Actually, many mutations are somewhat positive, or sufficiently neutral so as not to subject the organism to an increased chance of elimination by natural selection. The space of possible outcomes that work really isn't "very specific and small" at all. This is why evolution works.
ZJemptv 1 year ago 3
@ZJemptv
The chance of everything turning out the way it did in the universe is 1 in 1.
This is what the current state is, thats 1.
This is the only universe we know of, thats the other 1.
KarinMikazuki 1 year ago
@ZJemptv "many mutations are somewhat positive" is just another way of saying "yeah but sometimes it seems like some stuff works"
anonazero 5 months ago
I think of it more like dice then coins, but sure
Psilocybe85 1 year ago
@calandur
hahaha, so shallow...
I can't help jumping in.
So. People are very keen to compare two scenarios. #1 the universe without life #2 the universe with life. What they forget is that lifes is a POSSIBILITY. and not the antitetical opposite of the non-existance of life. Say instead of the advent of life there had be the advent of an immaterial something, that could think but not speak... like oniric spirits or even ideas... this "things" (whom you wouldnt be able to call living beings>>
Shubbidubba 1 year ago
@calandur
... well, maybe they could be (but probably not) discussing they're origins like we are now. Anyway, in my point of view, universe is like a very big clock, and it's events could be really well predicted with the right tools. And, of course, life's a subproduct of the way this universe is made. Period.
Shubbidubba 1 year ago
@Shubbidubba dude what are you smoking...
calandur 1 year ago
im not even smart enough to watch your videos.. seriously. lol. its kind of sad. except not really. because your SUPER intelligent.
JordanRLong 1 year ago
You can't really try to argue against something when you have hello kitty in the background.... JUST SAYING
supermcballin 1 year ago
going back through your videos is proof in itself of evolution, just check the hair! ;) no offence xx
PlanetBongoSan 1 year ago
you are cool :)
shaithesm0ck 1 year ago
i used the example of a thousand pennies tonight. It felt good. Thanks!
raduceangu 1 year ago
The pennies do have to fall in a specific way but you are missing that only a very tiny amount of the possible combinations will work for the evolution. That makes it improbable.
Some think that is so improvable that it is almost impossible, and I agree with you, even if there is one chance in almost infinite there is still one chance, but is it reasonable to believe in something so improbable?
Probabilities do not apply to the existing of God since it isn't related to chances.
naujphantom 1 year ago
p.s.- You look a lot cuter with your new hairdo; and you're right, as usual.
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago
Coin tosses in Nature can happen over gradients.. thus there might be more 'heads' at one part a body of water (for instance) and more 'tails' at another; with all the possible variations nicely spread out in-between. limited by things like molecular geometry and even fractal forms emerging in 'mixes'.
Just today I read in newScientist that the addition of a little rain water might have introduced chemical factors which allowed RNA helices to form in early Earth chemistry.
marsCubed 1 year ago
As mostley, the videos are BS
Mohannad192 1 year ago
how can you tell if something is improbably or not unless you have alternative situations where it didn't happen. If you only have one universe, how can.. you say.. whether it itself is probable or not?
thelouisfanclub 1 year ago
I just finished reading Carl Sagan's book "Billions and Billions" and agree that so much of the world (humans) would benefit a great deal by understanding big numbers. They're not hard, and they explain so much.
jamesdouglastx 2 years ago
lol, when I first saw this title I thought it said 'a thousand penises'
AntiJonasZone 2 years ago
I have a 1000 pennies floating in my house because i actually predicted the correct pattern and now they refuse to match the prediction!
tsalluzzi 2 years ago
Are u a boy or girl
555datboijoe 2 years ago
i like pie do you like pie
pie is nice
PPPPPPPPIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
eat it fucker
ZAKxWOLF 2 years ago
You're very articulate. :)
deusAtheismus 2 years ago
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Let me take this up on you
unfortunately you soak up the facts without any sense of reality (ironic) youre reeking of ignorance
explain: why does the universe exist?
-how did 'mass' come from absence? keeping in mind Law of conservation of mass (ya scientific fuckhead)
-how did it come from nothing and then against all probability life formed, evolved into the highest of intellect
Yeah sure "It just happens" fuckin dimwitted cunt
dafunker00 2 years ago
Because "God did it" is *such* a comprehensive, thorough explanation!
ZJemptv 2 years ago 24
sorry for the crass swear words
the concept of 'God' is vast and inclusive and in no way in conflict with science nor should it
id rather: "the fact that anything exists is in itself God"
and if your thought process is based exclusively on the cold hard facts then dont even try to understand.
dafunker00 2 years ago
if the fact that anything exists is in itself God, then you have modified the definition of God from an entity to the concept of existance. the fact that anything exists proves only itself, not the existance of god, before humans the concept of god wasnt around was it, in animals, dinosaurs etc, did god exist then? and even if god exists in this manner, god is certainly not what is reffered to in religious texts. they refer to an entity which restricts natural processes of life and reality
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
@ZJemptv boy you got alot of haters watching your videos.
CorpsmanUP87 1 year ago
who said it came from nothing? what if the universe has always existed, there is no reason why it couldnt have. meerly because we humans have to label and catagorise things into groups we can understand doesnt mean that everything is so. plus your neglecting higher scientific concepts such as anti matter, parallel realities etc. you just made yourself look stupid by insulting someone who has presented a good argument, which you countered with a bad one.
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
even science agrees that the universe had a begining
and according to entopy it will run out of energy
its a matter of higher intellect, not science
two people can see a human being and both agree that man is an animal yet a more spiritual person would see that there is so much more.
You can see the universe and think that it proves nothing but maybe thats because you havent had a very rich or fulfilling life
dafunker00 2 years ago
funny how your argument is to point out that science agrees with something, so even though i can disaprove god with science, you are more than happy to use other elements of it to counter me, so long as it doesnt contradict your beleifs. its also funny that your final argument is based on an insult, which there is no basis for because all you know of me is my previous argument, and from this you extrapolate about my lifes quality, i dont even need to counter that argument, you did it for me!
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
iron clad argument you got here
i dont need a counter argument you just did it for me too
dafunker00 2 years ago
how very coincidental
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
@dafunker00
You need a hug.
qabala 1 year ago
who gives a fuck
Bioreek 2 years ago
The people who have started many wars over religion.
Lhese121 2 years ago
as i said, who gives a fuck
Bioreek 2 years ago
The people who have started many wars over religion.
donkeyo4 2 years ago
as you see we have started a unending loop
Bioreek 2 years ago
thats not a loop, you asked a question, it was answered (quite well) and you chose to repeat the question, which yeilded the same answer, thats not an un ending loop of argument. thats just two people repeating themselves.
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
it's a loop, deal w/ it nerd
Bioreek 2 years ago
lol nerd? fantastic comeback. thats the first time i've been called a nerd
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
A loop caused by your apparent inability to realize that he answered your question.
MrGameposter 1 year ago
Is it worth considering that there is a designer behind all that exists - sort of a original thinking mind that is outside time and space, manifesting itself through manipulation of thought with a combination of random elements , in a space and time matrix, in order to experience itself becoming - that all of us and all that exists, IS that becoming ! That we are expressions of this one mind, having subjective and self conscious experiences ?
rolynstone48 2 years ago
a designer behind all that exists? i imagine that it is NOT worth considering that. by the very nature of the sentence it is logically impossible. the designer must exist in order to create existance, which shows that a designer could not exist before the designer existed.
so no it really isn't worth considering.
greycloud24 2 years ago
If it is not worth considering, then you might try considering that YOU don't exist - in fact you might consider that every thing you do, and are, is an accident, and not to be taken too seriously! You and I and everything that exists, is the result of intention [although it may have been an accident that resulted] we exist by design - the evidence is all around us! I don't subscribe to a "god" per-say, but that all existence is an accident, is as lame as a biblical god !
rolynstone48 2 years ago
you create a false dichotomy when you say that there either must be a designer or that everything is an accident. is it an accident that objects attract each other through gravity? is there someone intentionally pulling the objects together?
greycloud24 2 years ago
aaaa hello kitty XD
those r urs right XF
ToxiicJaii 2 years ago
ya but.. you forgot where UFOS come from LOL... UFOS FFS, UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT LOL NOT FRM EARTH, THEY ARE CREATED BY GOD... lolollololo rofl.. DR PEPPER DOESNT GIVE AIDS!!!
antonersulten 2 years ago
Yep you're pretty much right there, its a very weak argument built off something which is a common misconception when uninformed people discuss evolution. What you've said on this clip was very concise and well presented. well done. Your argument actually made me laugh because your tone of voice suggested an undercurrent which is screaming "how come people can't figure this out with there own brains?" its not difficult, it just requires logical thought.
ToraJutsu01 2 years ago
Hello kitty
rofl
triggertheoriegroupy 2 years ago
You do realize Youtube had that format 3 weeks ago fucking retard.
jinscrewsioanna 2 years ago
I guess your wrong bucko.
BASSCHAMP101 2 years ago
I agree with most of what this video says...however, I am struggling with being on the same side as Bunk beds and Hello Kitty.
Masher88 2 years ago 6
@Masher88 I thought the bed was cool =/
MrCorpseGrinder88 1 year ago
@Masher88 But bunk beds and hello kitty are awesome... actually it isn't a bunk bed it is a loft because bunk beds have a bed on the bottom.
pierepresentative8 1 year ago
...and the creationists say 'Well, you threw the pennies so you must be the Intelligent Designer!!"
stamboni316 2 years ago 2
I want to give you a haircut.
I wish they had you on a radiostation.
imashinydime 2 years ago
And who the hell do you think labled all the pennies and threw them?????? the universe and who do you think threw the penies so that the universe would come to this?????????
yogelic 2 years ago
Woah, somebody give yogelic a salt-tablet...
hoboboxerjoe 2 years ago
I'm digging the Hello Kitty in the back.
FFVIIGuy123 2 years ago
I think I may be in love with you. I found your channel last night. It's wonderful!
beckezmail 2 years ago
Wat a fucking nerd
bruciie 2 years ago
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all i Know is IM going to heaven when i die . and everybody who believes in jesus Crist is going to heaven.
CODVIDEOMASTER 2 years ago
Replace "know" with "believe" and you'll have yourself a correct sentence =)
koreanrobot47 2 years ago
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Too bad there is no f ucking God or f ucking gay Jesus.
Oh noes! Im going to h ell now!
F ucking n iggers.
jinscrewsioanna 2 years ago
I Can't Believe It's Not Blasphemy!
Butter
MagiMysteryTour 2 years ago
hey cupcake
how big is your mouth ?/
and how much can you SUCK ??
hehehehe
is all the atheists love to be sucker just let us know you dont have to bark for it. we can get you some ,
SASHA1536 2 years ago
I can't believe you just drew an ace, therefore you didn't >.>
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago
and it just so happens i have 1000 pennies without having to go buy them... what are the odds of that? lol
no really.... i'm not a student of chaos, statistics, or probability.
havoc201253 2 years ago
HELLO KITTY!!!!
Vwassel 2 years ago
I think your very smart and seems like someone who's had a couple debates with irrationals. Do you use big words with them, because Ive tried an they simply ignore the statement.
Do you ever feel you have to dumb down so they understand you?
Maybe its just me.
cooperaerosmith 2 years ago 4
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this girl is a mess get ur hair done it is not attractive
kevante1996 2 years ago
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mathematically shes smart, and has a very logical way of thinking , but realisticall shes the dumbest woman alive.
religion doesnt require maths to make sense. god made the earth to sustain human life by making it have pefect conditions. IF the earth was any further away from the sun we would all be dead etc etc. its to much to say that we came here through probability, and i sure as hell wont believe something that has a 1 in (huge number) chance, ill take the believable approach and choos god
smalldude1 2 years ago
So what's the probability that a god exists? 1 in... what? If the universe didn't have conditions that allow for our existence, we just wouldn't exist. And we wouldn't be around to observe how perfect the universe seems to be. It's that simple.
By the way, why would a god make 99% of the universe uninhabitable and hostile to life?
ZJemptv 2 years ago
um, how do you know its not inhabitable. have you explored deep into the universe have you. wait, maybe you are god because you seem to have all the answers.
and no, its not 'that' simple. i refuse to believe and cannot believe that this was just a accident. by looking at the details such as the human anatomy to minuscule things such as the structure of a leaf, i know that there is a god.
and i know this before even refering to a bible.and ill pray for you =] that you will understand also.
smalldude1 2 years ago
I suggest launching yourself into the vacuum of space without the protection of a space suit or a ship, and you can report back to us on just how inhabitable it is. Who knows, maybe it's actually nice and balmy like Aruba.
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Awesomo4003 2 years ago
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man i wish i was your friend :)
Awesomo4003 2 years ago
is your name smalldude1 because you have 1 tic-tac sized penis?
YourWiseSage 2 years ago 3
well ZJ, God puts lots of people through hell on earth, but all the awards and goodness comes in heaven..its sorta like a test. that makes sense. or no? reply to this please.
nirvana4eva1 2 years ago
evidence or it must be discarded as an absurdity
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
I rather come from monkeys than live a life that is nothing but a test.
kingmike40 2 years ago
it aint like a school "test" its a test of life.... some ppl fail some pass. and there's more to life than just it being a test... live it the wanna u wanna... do what u gotta do. but when da day comes for judgment ur on your own.
nirvana4eva1 2 years ago
I guess if religion made sense and everybody agreed on all of the points than we wouldn't need faith. I think those things are called facts.
kingmike40 2 years ago
It makes no sense that your god would put everyone here, and say okay, you can do what you want for oh lets say 80 years providing you don't get killed, or walk off a cliff, and once you die I'm going to tell you whether or not you lived up to the contradictory rubric I wrote. Oh by the way, if at any time you feel lost just close your eyes and think about what you need, and I will ignore everyone else to listen to your thoughts.
Fyzzikz 2 years ago
iight Fyzzikz, God owes us nothing at all. so he doesn't have to do anything for us. he can, but he doesn't have to. thats just like you working for free at mcdonalds, why do it? you owe them nothing.
nirvana4eva1 2 years ago
That analogy is not even close to relevant. A more suitable analogy, using your job at McDonalds, is giving a customer a burger, and getting another customer to relay the exact procedure to eat that burger, and if they don't follow it they will get food poisoning and die. And yes the burger was free, they had a coupon or something. As for the second thought, your god doesn't exist and I'm not going to bother thinking of another analogy to try to explain it to you because you won't listen anyway.
Fyzzikz 2 years ago
I wont listen? your tha hard headed atheist that doesn't like my cheeseburger analogy.if there isn't any god then who made you?
nirvana4eva1 2 years ago
See this why I was hesitant to respond in the first place, you're already accusing me of being "hard headed". I am in fact not an atheist, you might do well to learn there are more than just your religion in the world.
Fyzzikz 2 years ago
i know that. but those religion are in fact false religions. like.. most were man made and hand crafted. but God (Jesus) made us. we didn't make him.
nirvana4eva1 2 years ago
Also, feel free to believe in what you will, I'm just saying what I believe in, I'm not saying this as an argument, just as a way of letting you know what I think.
Fyzzikz 2 years ago
I agree on part of that, Earth is in a perfect condition and that is why life is here, you see thats the theory behind evolution life was created elsewhere but it wasn't sustanable and it died off then life was created here it was sustanable and we didn't die off.
yyy279 2 years ago
LOVE the hair, darling
ever heard of the clock on the island in the middle of the ocean argument?
DethFromAbv 3 years ago
you know that eerie feeling you get when you sense the watchmaker argument is on the way?
vikingatheist 2 years ago
nope. I don't know much about philosophy
DethFromAbv 2 years ago
it's the watch on the island thing... creationists use it in practically every video. talk about desperation, when that bogus argument reaches the top of their list.
vikingatheist 2 years ago
i agree. i've been tying to explain this to creationists, and yet they still throw claims of,
"there are over 300 base pairs! that's 10^54 power that any one gene would work!! evolution isn't possible!!"
I know these numbers are utter bullhocky, and yet they keep spouting them, as if big numbers give credulity to their misinformed beliefs.
if you were to take into account ALL the processes, not just simple recombination, you would see that life becomes rather easy.
EricZombie 3 years ago
ohhhh i thought i said a thousand penises ohhhhh...i have a drrrty mind
fattyJNL 3 years ago
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y the fuck is there a hello kitty on your bed really
also y do make videos that make no fuckn sense
if ur trying to speak to others use normal language faggot christian
also god doesn't like faggots just a fyi haha
XxZmoK3sxX 3 years ago
fuck life fuck a god
nightytighty123 3 years ago
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fattyJNL 3 years ago
Remember not to say "by accident"(accident sounds like it has to be negative) - try instead "by 'random' ways"
(I know that everything happens in cause->relation, but to some people, some things might seem completely random)
mamdk 3 years ago
I thought this said a thousand penises
ArcadeBumstud 3 years ago 2
HAHAHA!! way to PWN Dembski.
Scrapheap71 3 years ago
Is that a cat sleeping on your head?
mspookie 3 years ago
No, no...the cats are on the CHAIR. :P
BionicDance 3 years ago
no..no..no the cats in the cradle with a silver spoon
ehco18 3 years ago
Noooo, the cat's in the kettle at the Peking Moon. ;)
BionicDance 3 years ago
nay...nay...nay.....fuck you and the cat. videotape it and send it to me. ...I'm into that! fizzle!
ehco18 3 years ago