@suthes A lot of these old Wrestling Challenge shows were taped and had no commentators live in the building. A great deal of it was done in a studio well after the matches were over. You can always hear a big difference in Vince's excitement level when he does live matches vs. taped ones.
You should see Pez' match with Ted DiBiase on YouTube. DiBiase totally demolished him. Whatley didn't get in a single move on offense. Obviously Vince McMahon didn't think too much of him.
@Edgehead10075 Pez was a pretty good trainer from what I've heard tho. Some guys were just meant to be"enhancement talent". I kind of miss the traditional jobbers. We see them from time to time on SD whenever they hire local indy guys to job .
@bkstyle82 Then again,everybody complained about there being no quality matches between 2 superstars in that era on television.It`s unbelievable how uneducated the general public is about professional wrestling,and don`t even get me started on the `it`s fake` argument!
@Koolazzmike That was just Vince's thing. He tended to like taking guys from the old territories who were over down south, and just burying them in the WWF. He still does it to this day. And I hate to say it, but he treated black workers in this era even worse. Saba Simba anyone?
@plenchful Oh, I agree with you 100% on that, plenchful. I said the same thing. Look how he buried the JYD, had him lose in every wrestlemania, Slick was the only manager that never managed a champion, look how he buried the Booker T character, he embarrased him. And that Saba Simba was humiliating.
@Koolazzmike TOTALLY! I thought about it and man, so many black guys got such a raw deal when they went to WWF: 2 Cold Scorpio (pimp), The Godfather (pimp) Farooq (weird, black gladiator right after he was WCW champ), Virgil (slave) The entire Nation of Domination (black militants). Jeez, did any black guys get to be, you know, black guys??? Also, most Samoans are jungle savage, except for the Rock. Yikes!
yeah Piper was great on that show back in the good old days, He and Heenan played off each other pretty well, and Monsoon was always stuck in the middle haha.
This was after the Dynamic Dudes gimmick in WCW. He was in the WWF for a short time, then left due to his father becoming gravely ill. I forgot that Pez Whatley did jobs for the WWF though.
You are correct. Shane said in a shoot interview that the bookers wanted to give him a spot in the mid-card as the stereotypical pretty boy until his dad became sick and he had to leave. He came back in 95 and well...we know how that went.
Douglas is currently the heavyweight champion of Massachusetts-based Big Time Wrestling.
dagdogg 1 month ago
One wonders that if Douglas didn't have to leave the WWF in 1991 to take care of his late father, exactly how would he turn out
diceCasden 4 months ago
r.i.p. pez whatley 1951-2005 !!!!
AndrewsOpinion15 4 months ago
He was doomed from the start...he called people "wrestlers". I love how all Vince could say was, "he's in great shape."
Tyrone2184 1 year ago
The Undertaker has buried loads of talent.
diamondstudd 1 year ago
1:04 WTF!!!
vinbroccoli 1 year ago
I miss those picture in picture promos during Superstars and Wrestling Challenge. Douglas cut a pretty decent one there.
bkstyle82 1 year ago
The WWF was loaded with soooo much talent at the end of 1990 it isn't even funny...
Derby14 1 year ago
john cena buries plenty of talent himself
quietriotfan1976 1 year ago
I love heenans & pipers banter 4 da bret/perfect match @ summerslam 91 da brain left da hot rod wit no comeback & utter silence
wholelottamal 2 years ago
Whats the deal with vinces commentary? He seems very downbeat!
suthes 2 years ago
@suthes A lot of these old Wrestling Challenge shows were taped and had no commentators live in the building. A great deal of it was done in a studio well after the matches were over. You can always hear a big difference in Vince's excitement level when he does live matches vs. taped ones.
plenchful 2 weeks ago
Does anyne know the name of that referee?
dynamo805 2 years ago
and like always, douglas quit the company after this match.
FoCuS138 2 years ago
Why was Pez Whatley a jobber in the WWF?
Koolazzmike 2 years ago
You should see Pez' match with Ted DiBiase on YouTube. DiBiase totally demolished him. Whatley didn't get in a single move on offense. Obviously Vince McMahon didn't think too much of him.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
DiBiase powerslammed Whatley too. The match was a total squash.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
@Edgehead10075 Pez was a pretty good trainer from what I've heard tho. Some guys were just meant to be"enhancement talent". I kind of miss the traditional jobbers. We see them from time to time on SD whenever they hire local indy guys to job .
bkstyle82 1 year ago
@bkstyle82 Then again,everybody complained about there being no quality matches between 2 superstars in that era on television.It`s unbelievable how uneducated the general public is about professional wrestling,and don`t even get me started on the `it`s fake` argument!
landrykkb 8 months ago
@Koolazzmike That was just Vince's thing. He tended to like taking guys from the old territories who were over down south, and just burying them in the WWF. He still does it to this day. And I hate to say it, but he treated black workers in this era even worse. Saba Simba anyone?
plenchful 2 weeks ago
@plenchful Oh, I agree with you 100% on that, plenchful. I said the same thing. Look how he buried the JYD, had him lose in every wrestlemania, Slick was the only manager that never managed a champion, look how he buried the Booker T character, he embarrased him. And that Saba Simba was humiliating.
Koolazzmike 2 weeks ago
@Koolazzmike TOTALLY! I thought about it and man, so many black guys got such a raw deal when they went to WWF: 2 Cold Scorpio (pimp), The Godfather (pimp) Farooq (weird, black gladiator right after he was WCW champ), Virgil (slave) The entire Nation of Domination (black militants). Jeez, did any black guys get to be, you know, black guys??? Also, most Samoans are jungle savage, except for the Rock. Yikes!
plenchful 2 weeks ago
If you put Whatley in the camel clutch would a piece of candy fall out his neck?
dmowski 2 years ago
I love how Vince McMahon is trying to put Shane Douglas over on commentary, and Rowdy Roddy Piper is treating him like a total jabroni.
NJMFan1 3 years ago 6
I know. Way to build up the young talent, Rod. Thankfully, Roddy did get better on commentary.
TheJman2600 3 years ago
Agreed, his commentary did improve eventually, and his banter with Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was hilariously entertaining.
NJMFan1 3 years ago
yeah Piper was great on that show back in the good old days, He and Heenan played off each other pretty well, and Monsoon was always stuck in the middle haha.
ancestron 2 years ago
Piper was right though.
Edgehead10075 2 years ago
Piper really knew how to bury talent on commentary.
Misterioso 2 years ago 4
@NJMFan1 Lol seriously I wonder if there is a back story to that.
VisionofOrion 1 year ago
This was after the Dynamic Dudes gimmick in WCW. He was in the WWF for a short time, then left due to his father becoming gravely ill. I forgot that Pez Whatley did jobs for the WWF though.
jwblhojer 3 years ago
You are correct. Shane said in a shoot interview that the bookers wanted to give him a spot in the mid-card as the stereotypical pretty boy until his dad became sick and he had to leave. He came back in 95 and well...we know how that went.
songoku350 2 years ago
I wasn't aware that he competed in the WWF under his own name. Why did they have to push him into that stupid teacher gimmick?
OriginalLawnmower 3 years ago
Shane looked very athletic here. It's amazing how much his wrestling had changed by the time he returned to the WWF 5 years later.
filthiestfish 3 years ago
Shane Douglas in the WWF in 1990. Hell Yeah.
Shane Douglas=The FUTURE Franchise!
punymoron 3 years ago 3