Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Part Twenty

[WhiteTiger950]

wow, this scene doesn't have the same emotional effect without that sad melody the original had...

[hemir9]

"I'm a Kurd."

"So that's why your called Wolf..."

HOW DOES BEING A KURD EXPLAIN SOMEONES NAME!? SERIOUSLY!?

[Axelfunx]

@hemir9 It is apparently a turkish pun. Kurd = Kürt, and Kurt = Wolf

[DavidB0325]

even though these are the same actors and actress iin the scene as the PS1 version but still jesus

The voice acting again and the music on PS1 is way better

[KittyEvangeline]

If you fall in love with Otacon, you will die a painful or heroic death. Its fact.

[darthvadr2341]

lol u think i could have those dogs?

[Shadowolf709]

Lol it's like Otacon says "I loved you" To snake...

XDDDDDD roflmao

[CA13OOSE]

Otacon is such a pansy lol

[nickapaloooza]

I don't like that they changed a lot of the music score in Twin Snakes. I think the original music was much better.

Between this scene and the scene with Liquid and Solid Snake on top of Metal Gear (the original scene was better!) I can't decide which I like more.

[gronndar]

at least twin snakes has more variety with music. original had like 4 songs

[filipeflower]

It had more than 4 songs, gronndar. Make your research again, you ignoramus!

[gronndar]

i know i know, i forget that if you say 1 good thing about tts and 1 bad thing about original, mgs fanboys got offended. still, whetever it had 4-6 songs, they are pretty repetive, but alright songs overall. tts has still much better songs

[filipeflower]

Wrong again! When was the last time you made your research ?

[SparklesofUnity]

One of the best scene in any video game made.

Excellent scene. Dont make games like they used to.

[crazy4sian]

My God, I shed a tear.

[potunicorn]

im the bigest mgs fan played mg 1 mg2 solid snake mgs1 mgs2 s.o.l mgs3 snake eater mgs4 g.o.p mgo from mgs 3 mgo from mgs4 character name mgo Head[underscore]Shot!

[jakisalsome666]

what about portable opps and portable opps +

[mota849611]

silicon knights can't animate wolfs. lol

[SparklesofUnity]

Its on gamecube what you expect, its being ran on gtx 85, lol.

[SparklesofUnity]

I meant not being ran onb gtx 285

[SparklesofUnity]

on*

[paulosbruzzi]

But, in MGS2, why they are calling Snake a terrorist?! Because his infiltration in the Tanker?! Snake isn't a terrorist!

[paulosbruzzi]

Man, i'm a MGS fan, and i never saw this Saladin :P who is he?

[firespirit101]

Saladin=Big Boss

[skylyss101123abc]

she says she doesnt like seeing women get hurt, so she shoots meryl like 7 times. XD

[Tracazoid]

She could have easily killed her, she just incapacitated her.

[RusselMuttly]

@Tracazoid  Well when i played she always died...haha i could never mash through the submission

[jakefhfh]

I Love Wolf

y she have to die :(

sad story :(

[yavetee23]

the first version is so omuch better than the re-make, but this one is still good lol

[yavetee23]

this is the saddest scene ever in gaming history. when i first played MGS1 on PS1 i actually cried abit lol

[magicadd]

big boss' death in mgs4 was WAAAAY sadder, the boss' death was sadder than this

[CrazyMuppet]

Ive watched the japanese (legendary) movie called Yojimbo yesterday, and when one of the bad guys dies, its almost exactly the same as sniper wolf's death scene, i mean you can tell Kojima did it as an Homage to Yojimbo, very sad scene though, one of the saddest ones in gaming history

[filipeflower]

How can you tell? By presumption? I don't *EFF*ing think so.

[Darkydrago]

Also, The Pain from MGS3 is alot like that bee guy from Ninja Scroll.

[DBZmaster0123]

Otacon: Snake you said love could bloom on a battle field.

Snake: I've said a lot of shit today Otacon, its been a busy day.

[hackerhell900]

otacon is a clumsy ass

[filipeflower]

Otacon wasn't that clumsy in the original version.

[StarScreamXero]

lol...ok my cousin makes me watch these overly dramatic vidz..dont get me wrong i like mgs..but i am sick of all the drama .. and otacon's constant crying at this point..what the hell is he doing in an action!!??

[bull11234]

I actually almost cried

[eganator4]

when otacon says: Snake!! What was she fighting for? What am I fighting for!? What are you fighting for!

and then snake says: if we make it through this, ill tell you. My question is: What is the answer? ( to all the questions that otacon asked)

[Tyrannohamstersaurus]

The answer is: our entertainment.

[Fuzalert2k]

In MGS2, Raiden asks him the same question, then Snake explains it in the ending cutscene. I think "future generations" was one of the reason.

[kimchan008]

this isn't as good as the original they had better music for the sad scenes

[trustunna67]

she reminds me so much of eve from MGS3

[charliegirl1985]

It's EVA. And aside from looks they have nothing in common.

[Jakearnie]

ocaton u big pussy :(

[hinyaha]

The Original is So much better...

[userer1]

who the hell is master?

[filipeflower]

Master Miller, who happens to be Solid Snake's old survival instructor from the game 'Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake' for the MSX2 computer system. That game can now be found in 'Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence' for PlayStation 2.

[userer1]

ah thank you

[filipeflower]

Or for mobile phones.

[troggdorthesecond]

OMG! After all of that speech and Otacon, when Sniper Wolf was killed, I think I actually started to cry. MSOL! (Moan Sadly Out Loud)

[666MissManson666]

Wolf :'(

[Ovan95]

In the original he didn't trip I believe he just staggered a bit.

[filipeflower]

Actually, he just walked normally. He didn't even bother cleaning up the rifle, I think.

[SWORDofRhisis]

yeah, but still, even for Otacon, to fall over for just a little thing like that is kinda wimpy

[filipeflower]

It's pathetic. I mean, they made Otacon (whose real name is Hal Emmerich) acting like an exaggerated loser, even bigger than the one some people thought he was in the original Metal Gear Solid for PlayStation 1.

[SWORDofRhisis]

for real...

[Nodenarb]

Okay, so he tripped, big friggin deal. We all trip at some point:

Running, walking, jumping over twelve chairs, and falling in the snow with a twisted ankle on some Alaskan island carrying a German PSG-1 Sniper Rifle. See?

[filipeflower]

How do you know if it's German?

[Nodenarb]

GSG-9 or bundzepolitzeigruppe-9 use it. H&K manufactures German weapons, as they're a German arms company, in the list you will see they make PSG-1's and there's another but I can't remember for the life of me what it is. Trust me, I'm German.

[filipeflower]

That's funny, because your profile says that your from Canada. Are you sure you're not playing tricks on me? I don't like to deal with pranksters. Plus, they could have done that cutscene WITHOUT making him trip. There was no excuse for that. His ankle should have been cured by now.

[Nodenarb]

Uh yeah... Am I allowed to live in Canada even though I'm German, or is there some sort of immigration by-law that I'm not aware of? People trip, shit happens.

[filipeflower]

Weak reasoning. And mellow your language a little bit.

[Nodenarb]

Right right, fare enough. Still, I see your point with him tripping, but is it really going to alter the path of your life by watching this? I can understand your critique, but come on, man; can't we just enjoy the sad death scene?

[filipeflower]

I wish I could...if the remakers (despite adding those wolf-dogs) remade this scene loyal to its original event. As it really happened before. There's no need to alter things that are not flawed.

[Nodenarb]

Alright man, fare enough, I have to respect your decision. Seriously, all they need to do is just take out the trip and that's it?

[filipeflower]

Not just that. They forgot one important thing...and that thing is...taking in consideration the characters' personalities. What they would do and what they wouldn't do. How would they act on that, how would they respond, this type of stuff...it's complicated to explain.

[Nodenarb]

I see your point, the original was better, eh?

[filipeflower]

Not exactly.

[lattimore27]

You on about the bolt version the MSG-90?

[lattimore27]

because its made by hekler and koch a german gun producer

[filipeflower]

I'm talking about the PSG-1. I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here.

[lattimore27]

i no but the MSG-90 is the bolt action version and this wasnt a reply to you it was a reply to nod who said in the list you will see they make PSG-1's and there's another but I can't remember

[filipeflower]

Well, you replied to the wrong user. Nodenarb is just above me.

[Nodenarb]

Yeah, I think it was that, but H&K doesn't make bolt action sniper rifles anymore... They used to, but since you get more shots out of a straight mag, they went and removed the bolt action part, unfortunately. I might be wrong, but it's been a while since I've checked H&K...

[lattimore27]

But thats because when the german olyimpics where going on the police had MSG-90s and they couldnt hit all the targets as bolting it was too slow

[D20Watt]

That tripping on the ground stuff. That happens all the time.

[filipeflower]

Not all the time.

[Emre004]

With a twisted ankle, it wouldn't be difficult to trip, especially with snow covering hidden roots and twigs and etc.

[filipeflower]

You don't even know what's underneath that snow and you're already assuming it was twigs? Besides, Hal Emmerich had more than enough time to cure his twisted ankle. Trust me, they exaggerated on this scene, byt only making him trip on this precise moment. It was made for comical purposes, nothing more. If I remember correctly, Hal didn't trip on the snow in the original version. They just decided to treat him like a stereo-typical Otaku loser here, which is kind of wrong.

[Emre004]

You make an excellent point.

And I never meant to give the assumption it was twigs. I meant to just use them as examples as what could trip a guy in the snow (Yeah, I'm a guy who can be deep with detail).

But yes, they exaggerated a lot in The Twin Snakes, some of it way too far.

[S1lentTwo]

WTF is the point of Otacon tripping in the snow?

Stupid TTS cutscenes.

[rodmanbest]

There was no need... TTS has really stupid cutscenes, and some are irreal, like Snake punching Liquid on REX and him falling.

[filipeflower]

Wow, you and I are more alike than I thought!

[Kajuro13]

Shit,Otacon loses someone in almost every game(save for MGS3)

[sloppeeee916]

lolz if you dont count that one then he has XD

[zenny24]

yeah

MGS1: sniper wolf

MGS2: Emma

MGS3: none

MGS4: Naomi

[Emre004]

The poor man.

[cooler268]

very good cut scene, wolf and mantis are probably 2 of the best bosses in any game

[bossking257]

LOL!!! Sniper Wolf just ignored Otacon's ass. "I loved you" gets no reply, lol

[XEL777]

Jackass.

[Tai02]

okay then... OTACON=FUCKING JACKASS!!!

There! Happy now??

[filipeflower]

Worst way of solving problems ever.

[yourtubeyourass21]

Prob the best cutscene to any video game made hands down.

[eddythedemon]

I actually always preferred the twin snakes cut scene rather then the ps1 version.

[EZEVO]

I'm not going to give you a thunbs down because everyone is intitled to a opinion but without the enclosure music from the orginal, it's just not the same. Also I do like the northern lights bit but it's a bit too horrid with the blood coming down from the mouth but I guess that's war.

[vicecity600]

ehhhh i like the ps1 version better cuz of the music in this cutscene

[kourouma94]

the wofs wasnt in the original metal gear in this cnematic

[filipeflower]

And that's not all. How did the wolf-dogs escape from the Cave? Otacon couldn't be there, because he said: - "I was riding on the back of their truck. Thanks to the STealth cammouflage."

[filipeflower]

Oh, wait. I think these must be other wofl-dogs outside the Snowfield. Maybe they were just watching Sniper Wolf, and then, they decided to jump over the fence.

[Letema]

why did sniper have to die, Otacon could have finally gotten laid and had a kid that would one day fight snakes kid if he ever had one.

[fonixxxx]

Snakes infertile, just like Big Boss.

[pheez786]

i love how otacon trips in the middle of such a sad scene.

and jeez snake and otacon are such opposites, its so funny seeing them both.

[Mazmanos]

This is the best death in the whole game next to Gray Fox's.