I admit that is why I dont care about rape jokes(in the context of women which it's always is) b/c I know when males are raped or sexually mutilated it's treated as a joke or apatht..they had a guy not to long ago that was drugged and mutilated by his wife. They were actually making jokes about him on TV show the talk.(Sharon osborne being the worst) and on news coverage and blogs they were tounge in cheek. That made me apathic when women are raped or mutilated. Thats why im *ubermysgonist"
@ubermisogynist It's usually women that are targeted with rape and rape jokes. The rape of men is rarely portrayed in films. Ned Beatty's character was raped in Deliverance, and it was not played for humor or titillation; if it had been, more attractive cast members like Burt Reynolds or Jon Voight would have been targeted. His rape was, rightfully, seen as a horrible thing. Yet all the time in torture porn movies, the rape of a woman is played for laughs and sexual thrills.
Cassidy was also heavily feminized. It was implied he was gay and his nickname was "beaver". It seemed like he was depicted also as having been victimized into being a defective male, like when his girlfriend wanted to go further sexually and he didn't. Then they made him Veronica's rapist and a psycho villain. I enjoyed the plot but I felt at the time there were possibly some homophobic undertones present. I don't know. Enjoyed this video.
One thing that bugged me about VM was how violent she could be, and I think her violence was presented as acceptable becuase she's a female. I mean, there were definitely occasions where she whipped out her taser in self-defense but it seemed like in S2 and S3 there were a lot more instances of her just tasing someone out of spite. I'm thinking mostly of the party at the college she visited in S2 where she twice "drinked" a guy then tased him.
Perhaps you are the best example of the idiocy that is YouTube. You espouse this somewhat cerebral comprehension of rape, you then began to deconstruct rape to the most basic level, as if your random pedestrian thought is worth public discourse. Unfortunately your annoying rhetoric has hit my ears, a few minutes of my life I'll never get back. Leave the philosophical debate to the big boys - clearly academia is not for you.
@TheGreatToopi You don't seem to understand the point of YouTube. It's supposed to be about ordinary people, hence the "You". If you want videos by experts, check out TeacherTube or Khan Acadamy.
@GoingRampant The point ot YouTube!!-- I'm afraid it's you that has missed the point, if you new anything you would know that YouTube has no point. It is a vacuous emptiness that attracts people like you to fill it with whatever nonsense pops in to their heads. While I find your apparent love affar with feminism repulsive - I find even more repulsive your attempts to justify and sustain its attempted proliferation amongst the simple minded population that you so much desire to convert.
@TheGreatToopi Are you criticizing me because I'm not an expert or because I am and it's in something you don't like? There are different areas of YouTube. I imagine the people who come here for simple things like seeing a dog ride a skateboard won't have ,much patience for an intellectual video, while other people come here to seek out such things. Also note that a fair number of the people who commented here came from a feminist website,
@GoingRampant The very fact that you publish your opinions on YouTube means that you obviously welcome criticicism. In fact I would gather from the evidence thus far that you somewhat enjoy criticism as it gives you a venue to communicate - something which is obviously lacking in you day to day life, otherwise how could you possible conform to the notion that is feminism with such zeal. Your intellecutal naivety continues to astound me - case closed - I'm out. P.S. start reading real books.
@TheGreatToopi posting personal attack is not criticizing, all you said is how she being a feminist repulse you and you never address the issue she talked about.
I apologize for my rude behavior. I should have watch your entire video first. Thank you for being supportive of survivors. I get kind of sensitive and out of line when it comes to this. Please accept my apology. You're highly functioning for someone with autism. Which is very brave. Take care.
My son is a survivor or rape and I am as well. I find it amusing that an idiot such as yourself and others like you know what rape is. And your version of human nature and how life works is even more amusing than your IQ level. If there is one. Good luck and maybe you should start listening in school. If you go to school.
@vuitton48 You realize this is an anti-rape-culture video right? As in, I talk about male rape jokes being bad? My intelligence is rather high in certain areas as is typical for persons with high-functioning autism, but comparing individual intelligence misses the point, which is about debating ideas. Ad hominem attacks accomplish nothing. Hitler's act of commiting genocide was bad, but that doesn't mean he was wrong to keep dogs as pets. Who the person is doesn't reflect on separate actions.
@originalprep I stayed at a friends house, I woke up in the early hours to find his girlfriend (i say girlfriend, they met on the web, hardly knew each other) riding me. The act it's self did not traumatise me. I made the mistake of talking about it to her via e-mail, boyfriend found out about this, printed off emails, told his social worker mother, police come arrest me, i get charged with harassment, get a 2 year suspended sentence, I am not believed but was treat like a pervert by angry cops.
One particularly disturbing VM scene was after the feminist group assaulted Chip. Veronica teases Chip in the cafeteria, saying something like, "Do you still have that Easter egg?" Chip was a jerk, but it's not ok to bring up his sexual assault in a cafeteria. I like VM, but, in the words of my husband the first time who watched it, "God, does EVERYONE get raped on this show?"
@karacherith Technically, Veronica was after the egg as evidence. Your point still stands, though. She does joke with Dick about it, and she makes the "you really wrecked 'em (rectum)" comment. And Dick's "keister egg" joke shows up in the official summary.
@GoingRampant Sorry, I should have been clearer--I was talking about the finale episode, where Veronica says, "Could you put your head up your ass before they stuck the egg in there, or is this new?" So there are at least two episodes where the show makes fun of Chip's assault. Now I'm beginning to realize how pervasive male rape jokes were in VM. Wow, and I really like that show...
@karacherith I echo that "Wow". I haven't seen season three in a while, so I forgot about the finale making a reference to it. While creator Rob Thomas did some cool things with female characters and defended the Veronica character from criticism that she's mean with noting that a similar male character would be forgiven, I think that he just doesn't understand feminism that well and that wasn't his primary motivation in making the show unlike Joss with Buffy. VM was originally written as a boy.
You get 1000 awesome points from me. You make very valid points. It takes a very self-aware person to realize those things. You are going to make someone very happy someday.
Never thought of a rape joke as comparing a man to a woman and the humour coming from it being a womans position. It would have more been about a loss of power for the man, especially considering straight men would not consider it a comfortable way of intercourse(disregarding the rape of course). Its not about putting a man in a womans position so much as exposing their lack of power in a situation, especially for someone who was previously powerful(a crinimal over a victim or masterchief)
@Stephen3132 I agree about the power thing, but I do think its degradation is connected to the idea of being made like a woman. The victim is referred to as a "bitch", and the word "bitch" is connected to both women and male rape victims in common vernacular.
@FatherTime89 You keep saying how much you don't care. In at least 5 comments. Please keep telling us about the sheer magnitude of your lack of caring.
(I am assuming, though, that this video was for the people who do care, anyway, so you don't really need to be here.)
@FatherTime89 I actually originally had a response to that in the video, but I cut it out to save time because I thought it was extraneous detail. The killing fits in a story about genocidal aliens and humans defending themselves. The multiplayer can be thought of as like a training exercise. Players know they're not killing each other and will communicate to each other, often using threats of rape, and the corpse humping is an extension of that player-player social interaction. It's about them.
There's a reasonably mediocre British comedian called Jimmy Carr who said something interesting on the subject of transgressive humor. His claim was that his favorite reaction to an offensive joke was for the audience to first laugh and then groan. After the joke is processed the person disapproves but their initial response was to laugh and the initial laughter is quite telling. However, as far as idiots in highschool go, they'll say mindless offensive rubbish to get a rise because it gets one.
I noticed it too. A few months ago I saw an "Everybody loves Raymond" episode in which he was sexually harassted by a woman, and they made fun of it. It pissed me off! I wrote about it, but my blog is in Hebrew so I can't let you see it:/
I really liked your video, and your style in general. I'll stick around.
@LacyBeast I don't know, maybe laugh really excessively loud and slap your knee and say something like "oh my god rape is hilarious!" Then go stock straight and throw him an eyeroll. That guy's a dick. I'm sorry.
That was totally unnecessary both the comment about the length of her video and her gender, if you *really* feel the need to voice your opinion on her video style, then you can private message. It's just plain rude.
@FatherTime89 I'm using the style of YouTube film-making called vlogging, for which talking to the camera is a normal practice. I appreciate the value of being as brief as possible so as not to drown out my message with extraneous detail, but I do want to convey my thoughts as accurately as possible. I want to talk about how rape jokes can show up in media, which involves a discussion of such media and it is hard to compress that. I also speak that way in real life, so it's not a bad take for me
Patriarchal culture? Uh huh. Some people will joke about horrible things that happen to people, or just horrible things in general (I can't think of anything that's especially taboo for sick jokes). It's simply because some people enjoy dark humor. I do.
@LacyBeast Lacy, if you feel comfortable please feel free to tell an authority figure at the school; telling jokes like that in a public place, especially after getting such a negative response, amounts to sexual harassment. You were not overreacting, you were showing a great deal of sensitivity; you shouldn't have had to hear that.
@chuckinator11 Can we start to think at a socio-historical level here? Those jokes have origins from the infrastrucsture of society and continuing to make them perpetuate the oppression system where they historicaly come from. You find them funny, but the fact you do demonstrate the effetc of perpatuation of sexism or racism.
@chuckinator11 Gallows humor is only gallows humor when it comes from the person in the gallows. If it comes from the executioner or somebody picnicking on the lawn, it's just unfunny asshole humor.
@chuckinator11 ive never heard a clever dead baby joke, racist joke, handicapped joke, sexual joke, or stereotypical joke. they are in no way more funny than any "g rated knock knock joke"
@chuckinator11 I personally found the "Orange you glad I didn't say banana" very clever the first few times I heard it. I don't find offensive jokes funny unless they've got something else going for them. The misogynistic jokes tend to sound the same when used by misogynists as with guys just being ironic. If guys really like telling each other sexist/racist jokes, I have to wonder what might translate into actual behaviors with such people as it seems respect can be dropped at a moments notice
@chuckinator11 I am personally familiar with guys telling misogynistic jokes. I was speaking from experience. I never said *only* guys, just some guys and enough of them for there to be concern. I am familiar with Sarah Silverman and dislike her because of her rape jokes, such as in The Aristocrats. If you watched the video, you should be aware that I'm saying male/male rape jokes are told by guys in a misogynistic way and that the lack of misandry points at patriarchy behind them.
Thank you so much for tackling this subject, rape jokes are never okay and the fact that rape jokes about men are continually used as the punchline just for laughs is infuriating. I really appreciate you bringing up Veronica Mars because I was so disappointed with how they dealt with sexual violence throughout the whole series.
@feministfrequency Now that you mention it, it was pretty bad on the subject overall. I was thinking it was pretty much just S3, but you're right. Dick and Logan were pretty much forgiven for their GHB plots as far as I can tell just because they're cute and fun to watch. There was the weird rape plotline being discarded thing with the Duncan/Veronica twist in S1. One thing I do like, though, is how it portrays the justice system as misogynistic such as with Lamb disregarding Veronica's rape.
@GoingRampant Oh actually I meant Veronica the character. I was just posing the possibility that her casual attitude about male rape jokes could derive from her rough life, but I don't really know what I'm talking about since I haven't seen most of the show, lol.
Doll sent me this video. It's so perfect to watch this now. There's a guy on this site who is selling a tshirt with 'Got Rape' on it. It's disgusting. I pointed it out how horrible it was and him and his cronies false flagged the video and all the mirrors. Guys like him are horrible. But it's so funny to make money off rape right?
It's disgusting how prisoners are treated in this country. It's sick that we as a society think it's ok for someone who is considered "bad" should be raped. This goes for men as well as certain "uppity" women who need to be confined back to their societal role. Also, with so many people who have been molested/raped this society you'd think we'd take it seriously but, nope.
I admit that is why I dont care about rape jokes(in the context of women which it's always is) b/c I know when males are raped or sexually mutilated it's treated as a joke or apatht..they had a guy not to long ago that was drugged and mutilated by his wife. They were actually making jokes about him on TV show the talk.(Sharon osborne being the worst) and on news coverage and blogs they were tounge in cheek. That made me apathic when women are raped or mutilated. Thats why im *ubermysgonist"
ubermisogynist 1 month ago
@ubermisogynist It's usually women that are targeted with rape and rape jokes. The rape of men is rarely portrayed in films. Ned Beatty's character was raped in Deliverance, and it was not played for humor or titillation; if it had been, more attractive cast members like Burt Reynolds or Jon Voight would have been targeted. His rape was, rightfully, seen as a horrible thing. Yet all the time in torture porn movies, the rape of a woman is played for laughs and sexual thrills.
authoress1 1 month ago in playlist Videoblogs
what the fuck is wrong with this kid?
angelsgurl 3 months ago
@angelsgurl
I have no idea?
She/he looks like a beaver that breaths from her/his mouth.
Oddonan 2 months ago in playlist More videos from GoingRampant
Cassidy was also heavily feminized. It was implied he was gay and his nickname was "beaver". It seemed like he was depicted also as having been victimized into being a defective male, like when his girlfriend wanted to go further sexually and he didn't. Then they made him Veronica's rapist and a psycho villain. I enjoyed the plot but I felt at the time there were possibly some homophobic undertones present. I don't know. Enjoyed this video.
ThirdRAILKink 4 months ago
@ThirdRAILKink Thanks for the comment. I'm writing an analysis of queer portrayals in VM, and this helps.
GoingRampant 1 month ago
I loved Veronica Mars, but you're right.
One thing that bugged me about VM was how violent she could be, and I think her violence was presented as acceptable becuase she's a female. I mean, there were definitely occasions where she whipped out her taser in self-defense but it seemed like in S2 and S3 there were a lot more instances of her just tasing someone out of spite. I'm thinking mostly of the party at the college she visited in S2 where she twice "drinked" a guy then tased him.
ThirdRAILKink 4 months ago
@ThirdRAILKink Yeah, the Taser thing. That also happened with Chloe in 24.
GoingRampant 1 month ago
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flyinmoon 4 months ago
Perhaps you are the best example of the idiocy that is YouTube. You espouse this somewhat cerebral comprehension of rape, you then began to deconstruct rape to the most basic level, as if your random pedestrian thought is worth public discourse. Unfortunately your annoying rhetoric has hit my ears, a few minutes of my life I'll never get back. Leave the philosophical debate to the big boys - clearly academia is not for you.
TheGreatToopi 4 months ago in playlist More videos from GoingRampant
@TheGreatToopi You don't seem to understand the point of YouTube. It's supposed to be about ordinary people, hence the "You". If you want videos by experts, check out TeacherTube or Khan Acadamy.
GoingRampant 4 months ago
@GoingRampant The point ot YouTube!!-- I'm afraid it's you that has missed the point, if you new anything you would know that YouTube has no point. It is a vacuous emptiness that attracts people like you to fill it with whatever nonsense pops in to their heads. While I find your apparent love affar with feminism repulsive - I find even more repulsive your attempts to justify and sustain its attempted proliferation amongst the simple minded population that you so much desire to convert.
TheGreatToopi 4 months ago
@TheGreatToopi Are you criticizing me because I'm not an expert or because I am and it's in something you don't like? There are different areas of YouTube. I imagine the people who come here for simple things like seeing a dog ride a skateboard won't have ,much patience for an intellectual video, while other people come here to seek out such things. Also note that a fair number of the people who commented here came from a feminist website,
GoingRampant 4 months ago
@GoingRampant The very fact that you publish your opinions on YouTube means that you obviously welcome criticicism. In fact I would gather from the evidence thus far that you somewhat enjoy criticism as it gives you a venue to communicate - something which is obviously lacking in you day to day life, otherwise how could you possible conform to the notion that is feminism with such zeal. Your intellecutal naivety continues to astound me - case closed - I'm out. P.S. start reading real books.
TheGreatToopi 4 months ago
@TheGreatToopi posting personal attack is not criticizing, all you said is how she being a feminist repulse you and you never address the issue she talked about.
flyinmoon 4 months ago 3
your gay lmao
safetykidvids 4 months ago
I apologize for my rude behavior. I should have watch your entire video first. Thank you for being supportive of survivors. I get kind of sensitive and out of line when it comes to this. Please accept my apology. You're highly functioning for someone with autism. Which is very brave. Take care.
vuitton48 4 months ago
My son is a survivor or rape and I am as well. I find it amusing that an idiot such as yourself and others like you know what rape is. And your version of human nature and how life works is even more amusing than your IQ level. If there is one. Good luck and maybe you should start listening in school. If you go to school.
vuitton48 4 months ago
@vuitton48 You realize this is an anti-rape-culture video right? As in, I talk about male rape jokes being bad? My intelligence is rather high in certain areas as is typical for persons with high-functioning autism, but comparing individual intelligence misses the point, which is about debating ideas. Ad hominem attacks accomplish nothing. Hitler's act of commiting genocide was bad, but that doesn't mean he was wrong to keep dogs as pets. Who the person is doesn't reflect on separate actions.
GoingRampant 4 months ago 5
I must congratulate you. This is probably the craziest shit I've heard all year. my hats off to you.
suchafool990 7 months ago
@originalprep I stayed at a friends house, I woke up in the early hours to find his girlfriend (i say girlfriend, they met on the web, hardly knew each other) riding me. The act it's self did not traumatise me. I made the mistake of talking about it to her via e-mail, boyfriend found out about this, printed off emails, told his social worker mother, police come arrest me, i get charged with harassment, get a 2 year suspended sentence, I am not believed but was treat like a pervert by angry cops.
scumgrunt 10 months ago
One particularly disturbing VM scene was after the feminist group assaulted Chip. Veronica teases Chip in the cafeteria, saying something like, "Do you still have that Easter egg?" Chip was a jerk, but it's not ok to bring up his sexual assault in a cafeteria. I like VM, but, in the words of my husband the first time who watched it, "God, does EVERYONE get raped on this show?"
karacherith 10 months ago
@karacherith Technically, Veronica was after the egg as evidence. Your point still stands, though. She does joke with Dick about it, and she makes the "you really wrecked 'em (rectum)" comment. And Dick's "keister egg" joke shows up in the official summary.
GoingRampant 10 months ago
@GoingRampant Sorry, I should have been clearer--I was talking about the finale episode, where Veronica says, "Could you put your head up your ass before they stuck the egg in there, or is this new?" So there are at least two episodes where the show makes fun of Chip's assault. Now I'm beginning to realize how pervasive male rape jokes were in VM. Wow, and I really like that show...
karacherith 10 months ago
@karacherith I echo that "Wow". I haven't seen season three in a while, so I forgot about the finale making a reference to it. While creator Rob Thomas did some cool things with female characters and defended the Veronica character from criticism that she's mean with noting that a similar male character would be forgiven, I think that he just doesn't understand feminism that well and that wasn't his primary motivation in making the show unlike Joss with Buffy. VM was originally written as a boy.
GoingRampant 10 months ago
At what point do we draw the line between free speech, interpretation and sensitivity of a society?
HK41586 10 months ago
You get 1000 awesome points from me. You make very valid points. It takes a very self-aware person to realize those things. You are going to make someone very happy someday.
krybski 10 months ago
@krybski
as long as that someone dosent mind listening to his breathy complaining while he rapes him.
theletter23 10 months ago
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@krybski
as long as that someone dosent mind listening to his breathy complaining while he rapes him.
theletter23 10 months ago
are you a guy or a girl??
JimmyJimmyJimmy24045 10 months ago
You brought up many interesting points. I'm definitely going to watch the rest of your videos. (I love the teeshirt, too :)
benginni2 10 months ago
Never thought of a rape joke as comparing a man to a woman and the humour coming from it being a womans position. It would have more been about a loss of power for the man, especially considering straight men would not consider it a comfortable way of intercourse(disregarding the rape of course). Its not about putting a man in a womans position so much as exposing their lack of power in a situation, especially for someone who was previously powerful(a crinimal over a victim or masterchief)
Stephen3132 10 months ago
@Stephen3132 I agree about the power thing, but I do think its degradation is connected to the idea of being made like a woman. The victim is referred to as a "bitch", and the word "bitch" is connected to both women and male rape victims in common vernacular.
GoingRampant 10 months ago 2
Considering that Halo is a game where people shoot and kill each other, I don't really care if people are pretending to hump a corpse.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@FatherTime89 You keep saying how much you don't care. In at least 5 comments. Please keep telling us about the sheer magnitude of your lack of caring.
(I am assuming, though, that this video was for the people who do care, anyway, so you don't really need to be here.)
piratefaafy 10 months ago
@piratefaafy I haven't mentioned how much I care just disagreeing. But please do go on putting words in my mouth.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@FatherTime89 I actually originally had a response to that in the video, but I cut it out to save time because I thought it was extraneous detail. The killing fits in a story about genocidal aliens and humans defending themselves. The multiplayer can be thought of as like a training exercise. Players know they're not killing each other and will communicate to each other, often using threats of rape, and the corpse humping is an extension of that player-player social interaction. It's about them.
GoingRampant 10 months ago 2
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FatherTime89 10 months ago
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FatherTime89 10 months ago
There's a reasonably mediocre British comedian called Jimmy Carr who said something interesting on the subject of transgressive humor. His claim was that his favorite reaction to an offensive joke was for the audience to first laugh and then groan. After the joke is processed the person disapproves but their initial response was to laugh and the initial laughter is quite telling. However, as far as idiots in highschool go, they'll say mindless offensive rubbish to get a rise because it gets one.
genewatson100 10 months ago
I noticed it too. A few months ago I saw an "Everybody loves Raymond" episode in which he was sexually harassted by a woman, and they made fun of it. It pissed me off! I wrote about it, but my blog is in Hebrew so I can't let you see it:/
I really liked your video, and your style in general. I'll stick around.
-Inbar.
inbach 10 months ago 2
Wonderful argument! Keep it up! :)
SickMouth 10 months ago
@LacyBeast I don't know, maybe laugh really excessively loud and slap your knee and say something like "oh my god rape is hilarious!" Then go stock straight and throw him an eyeroll. That guy's a dick. I'm sorry.
NotADood 10 months ago
Also if you're only going to talk directly to the camera than please be brief
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@FatherTime89 She'll do what she damn well pleases.
NotADood 10 months ago
@NotADood I thought it was a he. ...Still do. Anyway it's a suggestion not a demand.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
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feministfrequency 10 months ago
That was totally unnecessary both the comment about the length of her video and her gender, if you *really* feel the need to voice your opinion on her video style, then you can private message. It's just plain rude.
feministfrequency 10 months ago 10
@feministfrequency I tried to be polite and advice on how to make better videos seems very appropriate for the comments section.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@FatherTime89 I'm using the style of YouTube film-making called vlogging, for which talking to the camera is a normal practice. I appreciate the value of being as brief as possible so as not to drown out my message with extraneous detail, but I do want to convey my thoughts as accurately as possible. I want to talk about how rape jokes can show up in media, which involves a discussion of such media and it is hard to compress that. I also speak that way in real life, so it's not a bad take for me
GoingRampant 10 months ago
Patriarchal culture? Uh huh. Some people will joke about horrible things that happen to people, or just horrible things in general (I can't think of anything that's especially taboo for sick jokes). It's simply because some people enjoy dark humor. I do.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@FatherTime89 You enjoy humor about horrible things that are unlikely to ever happen to you. How very edgy.
NotADood 10 months ago 2
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FatherTime89 10 months ago
@NotADood I never said it was edgy so kindly knock off the straw men. But if for whatever reason it makes you feel better I enjoy jokes about death.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@LacyBeast Lacy, if you feel comfortable please feel free to tell an authority figure at the school; telling jokes like that in a public place, especially after getting such a negative response, amounts to sexual harassment. You were not overreacting, you were showing a great deal of sensitivity; you shouldn't have had to hear that.
authoress1 10 months ago 2
Very well said. Thanks for uploading, it was a pleasure to watch!
RainmanStudios 10 months ago 2
Rape isn't funny.
Rape jokes are.
Just like dead baby jokes, or racist jokes, or handicapped jokes, or sexual jokes, or stereotype jokes.
None of it is funny in real life, but I would rather hear a joke about rape than a shitty g rated knock knock joke.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 Can we start to think at a socio-historical level here? Those jokes have origins from the infrastrucsture of society and continuing to make them perpetuate the oppression system where they historicaly come from. You find them funny, but the fact you do demonstrate the effetc of perpatuation of sexism or racism.
observantdeer 10 months ago
@observantdeer A dead baby joke doesn't have origins from the infrastructure of society, so that point you made is not a good one.
And I treat people of different race and sex equally in public, so I can say I'm a good person.
It's funny because it's offensive, nothing more.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 Except it's not actually funny.
NotADood 10 months ago
@NotADood Yeah just because you get offended by something doesn't mean other people don't find it funny.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@observantdeer Their roots have no impact on why people tell them. It's dark humor nothing more.
FatherTime89 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 Gallows humor is only gallows humor when it comes from the person in the gallows. If it comes from the executioner or somebody picnicking on the lawn, it's just unfunny asshole humor.
NotADood 10 months ago
@NotADood It's asshole humor, and I find it funny.
I also find non offensive jokes and smart puns and other jokes funny too, so I'm not a plebeian.
To each his own.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 Unfunny asshole humor is unfunny. And puns are stupid and annoying, so it sounds like your sense of humor is shit.
NotADood 10 months ago
@NotADood Lol whatever you say.
Like I said, to each his own.
And I enjoy good jokes as much as bad ones.
Ever heard of mel brooks?
Funny movies.
TV show archer?
Funny show.
Community?
Funny.
Game. Set. Match.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 nope
vaginahontas 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 ive never heard a clever dead baby joke, racist joke, handicapped joke, sexual joke, or stereotypical joke. they are in no way more funny than any "g rated knock knock joke"
Wildboring 10 months ago 3
@Wildboring I never said anything about them being clever.
They are funny because of how offensive they are.
A g rated knock knock joke isn't funny because it's plain and not clever.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 I personally found the "Orange you glad I didn't say banana" very clever the first few times I heard it. I don't find offensive jokes funny unless they've got something else going for them. The misogynistic jokes tend to sound the same when used by misogynists as with guys just being ironic. If guys really like telling each other sexist/racist jokes, I have to wonder what might translate into actual behaviors with such people as it seems respect can be dropped at a moments notice
GoingRampant 10 months ago
@GoingRampant Wow, that comment was sexist.
You just said only guys tell sexist/racist jokes.
Ever heard of sarah silverman?
She tells rape jokes.
And it's not just misogynistic jokes, it's also misandryst jokes being told, which is the main focus of the video.
If you are going to go on the campaign of 'equal rights for all', you better know what the hell you are saying.
Jerk.
chuckinator11 10 months ago
@chuckinator11 I am personally familiar with guys telling misogynistic jokes. I was speaking from experience. I never said *only* guys, just some guys and enough of them for there to be concern. I am familiar with Sarah Silverman and dislike her because of her rape jokes, such as in The Aristocrats. If you watched the video, you should be aware that I'm saying male/male rape jokes are told by guys in a misogynistic way and that the lack of misandry points at patriarchy behind them.
GoingRampant 10 months ago
Thank you so much for tackling this subject, rape jokes are never okay and the fact that rape jokes about men are continually used as the punchline just for laughs is infuriating. I really appreciate you bringing up Veronica Mars because I was so disappointed with how they dealt with sexual violence throughout the whole series.
feministfrequency 10 months ago 12
@feministfrequency Now that you mention it, it was pretty bad on the subject overall. I was thinking it was pretty much just S3, but you're right. Dick and Logan were pretty much forgiven for their GHB plots as far as I can tell just because they're cute and fun to watch. There was the weird rape plotline being discarded thing with the Duncan/Veronica twist in S1. One thing I do like, though, is how it portrays the justice system as misogynistic such as with Lamb disregarding Veronica's rape.
GoingRampant 10 months ago
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fivecrownsful 7 months ago
Isn't Veronic Mars pretty hard edged? Granted, I only saw the first episode. Anyway, I like your thought provoking videos.
elleoneiram 11 months ago
@elleoneiram Thanks. What exactly do you mean by hard edged? It deals with a lot of harsh subject matter as a noir type show if that's what you mean.
GoingRampant 10 months ago
@GoingRampant Oh actually I meant Veronica the character. I was just posing the possibility that her casual attitude about male rape jokes could derive from her rough life, but I don't really know what I'm talking about since I haven't seen most of the show, lol.
elleoneiram 10 months ago
Doll sent me this video. It's so perfect to watch this now. There's a guy on this site who is selling a tshirt with 'Got Rape' on it. It's disgusting. I pointed it out how horrible it was and him and his cronies false flagged the video and all the mirrors. Guys like him are horrible. But it's so funny to make money off rape right?
GirlonFilm1969 11 months ago
It's disgusting how prisoners are treated in this country. It's sick that we as a society think it's ok for someone who is considered "bad" should be raped. This goes for men as well as certain "uppity" women who need to be confined back to their societal role. Also, with so many people who have been molested/raped this society you'd think we'd take it seriously but, nope.
d0llsnatch 11 months ago