Lawl wut? Mango and lucky are definitely a better team and then you have M2k and Pc Chris on a team, which is even better (BARELY though). Not saying Ken and Isai didn't kick 3 years of consistent ass though.
Mango and lucky are good, but to say mango and lucky are the best team in the world is an overstatement. Mango is arguably the best in the world at melee... put him w/ anyone and he wins...
Team wise he has always been top. Argue with data and results not me.
Also we we're talking about a "team", which apparently didn't make sense to you, you must have just been in a poor mood because you didn't even respond correctly to the subject at hand. You just wanted to flame. Too bad.
Yeah, about that whole "we're talking about a team" statement, you would know if you actually read what was being said, that we're talking about Mango individually as well, as ian033190 said..."Mango is arguably the best in the world."
mango has beaten everyone you could try to argue is better than him
he's the best singles and teams player in the world right now, which is phenomenal if you think about it because not even ken in his prime or m2k in his prime has been the best in both
I dont agree. Ken in his prime WAS the best in both singles and doubles, when teaming with Isai.
Also, Ken beat pretty much everyone nationwide multiple times, plus going across seas to win tournaments. Mango hasnt played east coast that much, nor has he traveled out of the country. Ken in his prime was better than Mango.
My point is - Mango has beaten M2K once, unless im missing another tournament where they played each other. I argue that M2Ks tournament placings still keep him above Mango.
isai would give mango a run for his money in doubles.
and if you search ken vs mango on youtube, you'll find see mango looking just plain silly against ken. i mean he'd just give up and sd his last stock coz he had no chance. and seeing how m2k is better than ken now, no way mango is the best singles player in the world
i agree with a majority of what you're saying, but melee doesn't really work that way. the transition property doesnt apply: if m2k can beat ken, and ken can beat mango, that doesn't necessarily mean m2k is going to beat mango. no doubt mango is good, but we always have to consider so much stuff when these pros go head to head. bad days, nervousness, styles, reading of the opponents, etc.
Mango is the best Melee player that have ever touched this Earth... the matches where he lose to Ken are pretty old... right now there is no one who can barely give him any problem... accept it... I love Ken, but he WAS the best, not now... really...
Mango is one of the best in the world now is because many of the pros, such as isai, since he retired after the pro circuit and the other tournies, and it doesnt matter if he has the titles for both singles and doubles because most of the pros are starting to retire and in doubles, it is no accomplishment to have it cause his partner could be better then him.
Mango and lucky are a better team than Ken and Isai ever were. Stop living in the past. The only team they have even LOST to has been PC and M2K so and well, that's PC AND M2K. Mango is also top 5 easy. Same with Dashizwiz, Cort, Chu, and M2K. He wins tournies without even picking his character just to prove that he can still dominate without the gayness that is Jiggs.
OMG... Isai is too good. He's a mother F*cking Problem. he got 7 out of 8 kills, the one he didn't get was friendly fire. And he almost triple kneed kdj fox at around 140 (he kinda still did)...
this match is weird bc M2K is a Marth/Fox main and KD is a singles beast. I dont think his style of play is suited for teams. Plus Jack is a Great plyr but even he knows hes no Ken so this shows that M2K and KD r bttr singles plyrs
in that aspect, it's kind of interesting, because Isai and Cpt Jack are both assist players in teams, and M2K and KDJ are both singles players. Of course they're all great in general, but you'll notice that Cpt Jack and Isai will hit each other trying to assist each other in little clutch moments.
this is true and you will notice that they hit each other, but Isai is the best doubs plyr, and i beleive he knows when he has to take the initiative which is why they won
haha either way M2K got outplayed, something never to be seen again. This match is awesome cause not only is there great fighting but you can tell who's who just by their reputations.
what ur post basically says is mew2king or kdj are now unstoppable in a team. and u can't determine that with no more big melee tournys. isai/theking took out chudat/mew2king at oc3. i don't think captain jack has even been here since oc2 so u can't compare. being top placing technical beasts in singles is different from teams
Isai stopped sandbagging at 2:55 !
lelabed68 2 months ago
i love how @ 1:26 isai just runs over a KDJ SD's out of fear lol
reoriol 1 year ago
LOL having isai on your team is so unfair
NirvanaClockwork 1 year ago
Isai #FTW :')
iChocolateAddict 1 year ago
isai is a BEAST
likemy 1 year ago
isai rapes mango and silent spectre
oscarmalherbe 2 years ago
thats cause Isai is too good and he'd probably beat darkrain
silentazian 2 years ago
2:24
Nice TK
kirby4blues 2 years ago
Godly combo from Isai 0.00-3.06.
The best doubles team in the world is Isai and anyone.
PaperFish 3 years ago 20
you mean isai and ken who actually are the best doubles team
Dasol 3 years ago 6
Lawl wut? Mango and lucky are definitely a better team and then you have M2k and Pc Chris on a team, which is even better (BARELY though). Not saying Ken and Isai didn't kick 3 years of consistent ass though.
IShotLazer 3 years ago
This is hardly true. Mango and lucky are definitely not the best team lol
yousuckatlyfe 3 years ago 6
Mango and lucky are good, but to say mango and lucky are the best team in the world is an overstatement. Mango is arguably the best in the world at melee... put him w/ anyone and he wins...
ian033190 3 years ago
LOL are you kidding me?
Mango is nowhere near the best in the world
Please stop talking.
yousuckatlyfe 3 years ago
OMG Mango won a tournament. HES THE BEST EVER!
Yeah, nowhere near the best. Good, but definately not the best.
TOYD3 3 years ago
Team wise he has always been top. Argue with data and results not me.
Also we we're talking about a "team", which apparently didn't make sense to you, you must have just been in a poor mood because you didn't even respond correctly to the subject at hand. You just wanted to flame. Too bad.
IShotLazer 3 years ago 2
Yeah, about that whole "we're talking about a team" statement, you would know if you actually read what was being said, that we're talking about Mango individually as well, as ian033190 said..."Mango is arguably the best in the world."
TOYD3 3 years ago
hahaha what are you talking about
mango has beaten everyone you could try to argue is better than him
he's the best singles and teams player in the world right now, which is phenomenal if you think about it because not even ken in his prime or m2k in his prime has been the best in both
Vyse0wnz 3 years ago
I dont agree. Ken in his prime WAS the best in both singles and doubles, when teaming with Isai.
Also, Ken beat pretty much everyone nationwide multiple times, plus going across seas to win tournaments. Mango hasnt played east coast that much, nor has he traveled out of the country. Ken in his prime was better than Mango.
My point is - Mango has beaten M2K once, unless im missing another tournament where they played each other. I argue that M2Ks tournament placings still keep him above Mango.
TOYD3 3 years ago
Mango has beat M2K twice. M2K has never beat Mango.
Isai was the best teams player back when Ken was in his prime.
If you played Mango now, afterwards you would laugh at the thought of anyone saying Ken is better than him.
Vyse0wnz 3 years ago
isai would give mango a run for his money in doubles.
and if you search ken vs mango on youtube, you'll find see mango looking just plain silly against ken. i mean he'd just give up and sd his last stock coz he had no chance. and seeing how m2k is better than ken now, no way mango is the best singles player in the world
shadowcell 3 years ago
nice english btw.
well if you really searched, you'd see mango and lucky beat ken and isai. and epic match where lucky beats them 2 on 1.
also watch gimpyfish62's how good is mango.
then you'll realise...
magicalsauce 3 years ago
What was that again?
M2K got butt fucked by Mango. Just like West Coast said.
Vyse0wnz 3 years ago 4
i agree with a majority of what you're saying, but melee doesn't really work that way. the transition property doesnt apply: if m2k can beat ken, and ken can beat mango, that doesn't necessarily mean m2k is going to beat mango. no doubt mango is good, but we always have to consider so much stuff when these pros go head to head. bad days, nervousness, styles, reading of the opponents, etc.
nintendcoreXX 2 years ago
Mango is the best Melee player that have ever touched this Earth... the matches where he lose to Ken are pretty old... right now there is no one who can barely give him any problem... accept it... I love Ken, but he WAS the best, not now... really...
deBarnik 2 years ago
Armada actually gave him ALOT of trouble, and was very close to beating him.
nicki249 2 years ago 3
lol.. "very close", but didn't beat him.. so you answered yourself...
anyway second set was 3-0 for Mango, so I wouldn't say very close, but instead that Mango needed time to understand how to beat Armada..
Armada is easily one of the 3 best world players, but not better than Mango.. we'll see at Pound 4 if Armada is the best or not... =)
deBarnik 2 years ago
Mango is one of the best in the world now is because many of the pros, such as isai, since he retired after the pro circuit and the other tournies, and it doesnt matter if he has the titles for both singles and doubles because most of the pros are starting to retire and in doubles, it is no accomplishment to have it cause his partner could be better then him.
DeathSlayer6606 2 years ago
And besides, isai and ken could DI better then mango in melee, mango only dominated in original smash
DeathSlayer6606 2 years ago
Mango and lucky are a better team than Ken and Isai ever were. Stop living in the past. The only team they have even LOST to has been PC and M2K so and well, that's PC AND M2K. Mango is also top 5 easy. Same with Dashizwiz, Cort, Chu, and M2K. He wins tournies without even picking his character just to prove that he can still dominate without the gayness that is Jiggs.
IShotLazer 3 years ago
I never said I disagreed with any of that(even though I do), lol
All I said was Mango isn't even close to the best in the world.
yousuckatlyfe 3 years ago
uhh even if mango isn't the best in the world, he's pretty close to it
sweetxignorance 3 years ago 3
you can bet he is... xD
deBarnik 2 years ago
Put him with lucky and he always wins.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST FUCKING TEAM.
jjjintheusa 3 years ago
M2k and KDJ would rape this matchup right now
nonethousand 3 years ago
since KDJ quit and M2K plays brawl I doubt it
ian033190 3 years ago
M2K hates brawl.
TOYD3 3 years ago 3
When KDJ says quit, he means "not go to as many tourneys".
And m2k playing brawl is sort of paralelled to thinking you were gay. All he wants to do is forget it.
jjjintheusa 3 years ago
holy shit Isai is definitely the best smash player out there
likemy 3 years ago 4
haha 2:13 isai's like back the fuck off fox, i gotta kill shiek right now
trickassbitchmark 3 years ago 8
lololol
thebrin123456789 3 years ago
I mean... what Isai did in this match was absolutely beautiful
Acherontic1 3 years ago 3
ISAAAAAAAIIIIIIIII!!!!!
T651 3 years ago
OMG... Isai is too good. He's a mother F*cking Problem. he got 7 out of 8 kills, the one he didn't get was friendly fire. And he almost triple kneed kdj fox at around 140 (he kinda still did)...
losmatix 3 years ago
this match is weird bc M2K is a Marth/Fox main and KD is a singles beast. I dont think his style of play is suited for teams. Plus Jack is a Great plyr but even he knows hes no Ken so this shows that M2K and KD r bttr singles plyrs
dragonotaku 3 years ago
in that aspect, it's kind of interesting, because Isai and Cpt Jack are both assist players in teams, and M2K and KDJ are both singles players. Of course they're all great in general, but you'll notice that Cpt Jack and Isai will hit each other trying to assist each other in little clutch moments.
BlueFoxXT 3 years ago
this is true and you will notice that they hit each other, but Isai is the best doubs plyr, and i beleive he knows when he has to take the initiative which is why they won
dragonotaku 3 years ago 2
haha either way M2K got outplayed, something never to be seen again. This match is awesome cause not only is there great fighting but you can tell who's who just by their reputations.
igiluflip 3 years ago
this is an awesome video
but it goes to show how much times have changed
TheManaLord 3 years ago
what u mean?
MevseC 3 years ago
m2k and kdj evolved into top placing technical beasts
and that this high speed play is a thing of the past with brawl around...
TheManaLord 3 years ago
what u talking about this is a teams match not singles.
MevseC 3 years ago
ya .
TheManaLord 3 years ago
what ur post basically says is mew2king or kdj are now unstoppable in a team. and u can't determine that with no more big melee tournys. isai/theking took out chudat/mew2king at oc3. i don't think captain jack has even been here since oc2 so u can't compare. being top placing technical beasts in singles is different from teams
MevseC 3 years ago 3
yeah i know i agree with you i didnt say anything like that.
they just play different.
thats what i mean.
TheManaLord 3 years ago
OMFG... ISAI RULES !!
kdna11 3 years ago
Nice combo 0:00-3:06
LaJ126 4 years ago 2
Hahahahah, that's awesome. XD
KSirias 3 years ago
lol best USA and best Japan on same team
troy21189 4 years ago
ROFL isai scared kdj at 1:27
pwntizzzle 4 years ago 2
isai beasting all the stocks
embracethe12 4 years ago
Nice combo 0:00-0:36
macrofly 4 years ago 6
Isai is too good. Way too good.
onlnr 4 years ago
Who was actually paying attention to Captain Jack?
brainfood 4 years ago 7
Isai had six kills, and the other two deaths were SDs...
ISAI FOR GOD TIER!
Protoguy1 4 years ago 4
Isai raped...SO hard
Philo223 4 years ago
0:00 - 3:06
AMAZING PLAY ISAI
GianniSA 4 years ago 11
isai can dodge bullets when he's asleep
egreene 4 years ago 8
omfg isai owned so fucking hard in this one.
wilwn 4 years ago 4
at 1:43 OMG
mclace 4 years ago
ladies and gents: Joel Isai Alvarado - trying, in teams.
durhamred 4 years ago 2
you know, i didn't know there were 2 shieks until i watched this the 2nd time. i was watching isai the entire time.
paralasalud 4 years ago 5
HAH! 2:12, Isai kicked M2K away, then just swatted away KDJ. "Get that shit out my face, im Isai, bitch!"
TOYD3 4 years ago 16
144-148 fucking amazing
Araknophobik 4 years ago
ISAAAAAAAAIIIIII!!!!!!
JejuneJesuit 4 years ago 2
ISAI WAS ON FIRE
DAMN!!
SSBMJunky 4 years ago 4
GOD DAMN! Isai's got it all =)
KurtAngle01 4 years ago 4
isaiii
BobbysWorldFoSho 4 years ago 3
my words exactly
ssbmvidman 4 years ago
Captain falcon Rocks!!!! I love captain falcon!!
ssbmer 4 years ago 2
@1:27 M2K suicided in awe of the incoming Isai
TheSSBMDude 4 years ago 7
looks like Isai started to try
BeefJr 4 years ago
who is better out of pc chris and cj
pimp5637 4 years ago
This is a video of isai being the real isai, absaloutly amazing. When hes motivated nothing can stop him
MrP86 4 years ago
yeah they switched it up. but to clarify they both have really good sheiks. mew2king picked one up. fucking rape though jesus. lol
Diego32akaD21 4 years ago
Yeah, KDJ has a shiek, and the tag says KDJ? which means it's probably not KDJ.
I think KDJ is the shiek and M2K is the fox.
trespayne 4 years ago
fox was KDJ he has a great fox too
SSBMJunky 4 years ago
are you sure sveet? as far as i know m2k dont got a sheik but kdj does.
doyoung2win 5 years ago
10 knees Isai is a god
thumbswayup 5 years ago
as it is said for falcons, the best time spend not kneeing is spent kneeing
GCLU 4 years ago 2
KDJ Fox, M2K Sheik, Isai Falcon, CJ Sheik
Sveet 5 years ago
I think that was Isai being falcon, he was sick, like 50 knees.
nwvkxc 5 years ago
ownage at 1:43, and at the end he did what he did on pc to kdj, nice one
JredL 5 years ago