@Tagproductions101 15 knots? Where did you get that number? A small craft warning is minimum 20 knots and the actual wind was at least 25 that day. If the 420 you're referring to is a Sea Eagle, that's a much beamier boat than mine. And where's your video of it? As the kids say today "Pix or it didn't happen!":-)
@adamnoman soz no pics but i got a small vid of us going in around 20 knots. I got the 15 knots from the swell. you usually get white caps at 15 knots, but that was my mistake. sorry
I don't have personal experience of using my sail on the Tarpon 160i. How much rudder you'd need would depend on how well the boat tracks without a rudder. But personally I've reverted from using a double sized rudder back to a single size rudder to reduce drag for the majority of sailing/paddling conditions. In those rarer sea conditions and high off-wind sailing angles where I do need more steering power, I just deploy my paddle blade as a second rudder. Hope this helps. Happy sails to you!
NW Kayaks are great boats. I don't think there are any retailers around here. Maybe in Minneapolis/St. Paul somewhere, but I'm not for certain. A lady I know in town has a NW kayak, and she loves it.
Why are NW great boats, but then again I've never heard of them. I googled and couldn't find anything about how their kayaks were constructed. Why not build your own from the many plans available. Wooden kayaks, stitch and glue or stip cedar wood built are by far the best in comparison to mass produced plastic boats. If you don't want to build yourself , you can always find a local builder who will build it, from any plan you want.
I just got back from our local MN lake. It was about 40mph wind and larger 1 meter breaking waves. While I was out in my Necky Zoar Sport, I was surfing them in and my rudder wasn't helping much since I was broaching really bad. I never did roll though, which is good since I can't roll that 25" beam Necky. I need a nicer boat. What kind do you have?
I have a NW kayaks Discovery XL. I like the additional room for gear and my knees and the drier ride in waves. The trade off is it takes more effort to paddle into a headwind. I've reinforced the deck where the sails (I have two) go. It's fitted with the Smart Track rudder system with a double sized blade. This combo works well for me for touring. YMMV.
The sail is trimmed off to one side, which makes it less prone to death-rolls (increasing side to side rocking. I've upgraded the kayak's rudder blade to one intended for a double. Even so, I was often ruddering with my paddle as well to prevent broaching. (And occassionally bracing with my paddle to prevent capsize.)
>How did you feel in swells like that?
Nicely exhilerated. I had a drysuit, an electric bilge pump (and a manual back up), VHF radio, and other safety gear.
Wow not even 15 knots and you say rough weather
I went sailing in a 40 knot southerly in the 420. We had the kite up going down a broad reach. That was srsly extreme.
Tagproductions101 9 months ago
@Tagproductions101 15 knots? Where did you get that number? A small craft warning is minimum 20 knots and the actual wind was at least 25 that day. If the 420 you're referring to is a Sea Eagle, that's a much beamier boat than mine. And where's your video of it? As the kids say today "Pix or it didn't happen!":-)
adamnoman 9 months ago
@adamnoman soz no pics but i got a small vid of us going in around 20 knots. I got the 15 knots from the swell. you usually get white caps at 15 knots, but that was my mistake. sorry
Tagproductions101 8 months ago
ya dont say... lol nice vid
Ghillie334 1 year ago
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oh yeeaa
brilliant, i love getting out on the water as i live at southend on sea
im,e building something sail mad
based on a kayak at
kayakmaran.pbworks.c o m
tonyboysax 1 year ago
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sailorbluepr 2 years ago
I am assuming you need a big or duble rudder if you isntall this sail into a Tarpon160i right?
Vonshultze 3 years ago
I don't have personal experience of using my sail on the Tarpon 160i. How much rudder you'd need would depend on how well the boat tracks without a rudder. But personally I've reverted from using a double sized rudder back to a single size rudder to reduce drag for the majority of sailing/paddling conditions. In those rarer sea conditions and high off-wind sailing angles where I do need more steering power, I just deploy my paddle blade as a second rudder. Hope this helps. Happy sails to you!
adamnoman 3 years ago
that looks like so much fun
welderman27 3 years ago
NW Kayaks are great boats. I don't think there are any retailers around here. Maybe in Minneapolis/St. Paul somewhere, but I'm not for certain. A lady I know in town has a NW kayak, and she loves it.
caffeinecharged 4 years ago
Why are NW great boats, but then again I've never heard of them. I googled and couldn't find anything about how their kayaks were constructed. Why not build your own from the many plans available. Wooden kayaks, stitch and glue or stip cedar wood built are by far the best in comparison to mass produced plastic boats. If you don't want to build yourself , you can always find a local builder who will build it, from any plan you want.
englishmovielover 3 years ago
I just got back from our local MN lake. It was about 40mph wind and larger 1 meter breaking waves. While I was out in my Necky Zoar Sport, I was surfing them in and my rudder wasn't helping much since I was broaching really bad. I never did roll though, which is good since I can't roll that 25" beam Necky. I need a nicer boat. What kind do you have?
caffeinecharged 4 years ago
I have a NW kayaks Discovery XL. I like the additional room for gear and my knees and the drier ride in waves. The trade off is it takes more effort to paddle into a headwind. I've reinforced the deck where the sails (I have two) go. It's fitted with the Smart Track rudder system with a double sized blade. This combo works well for me for touring. YMMV.
adamnoman 4 years ago
Weren't you afraid of the sail flipping you as swells broach the boat? I've read some about those sails, they're really cool, I could get into that.
How did you feel in swells like that?
caffeinecharged 4 years ago
The sail is trimmed off to one side, which makes it less prone to death-rolls (increasing side to side rocking. I've upgraded the kayak's rudder blade to one intended for a double. Even so, I was often ruddering with my paddle as well to prevent broaching. (And occassionally bracing with my paddle to prevent capsize.)
>How did you feel in swells like that?
Nicely exhilerated. I had a drysuit, an electric bilge pump (and a manual back up), VHF radio, and other safety gear.
adamnoman 4 years ago