The maker of this video is obviously a moron and therefore probably a $cientologist, too. People see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. There's no proof that would change these people's brainwashed minds... so why bother? I give up!
don't worry, all religions and cults will crumble soon. too bad it won't be in our lifetime. Only when all the cults are gone will there be a golden age and humanity can advance untethered. we have come a long way but most of us are still dumb as fuck.
The extent at which these abuses are practiced, institutionalized, and enforced by the main administrative body of the organization is not only alarming; it is criminal. Organized Scientology operates as a for-profit corporation, where exploitative fees are mandatory for pseudo-scientific "courses." As such, Organized Scientology should be classified as a business, and indeed only relies on "religious" status to evade both taxes and criticism.
The current administration of the "Church" of Scientology shows consistent disturbing patterns of behavior that intimidates critics, suppresses dissent, abuses the legal system, destroys the basic family unit and other social bonds, interferes with a person's right to leave the Church's organization "Sea Org," coerces abortions, has abusive working conditions (not just for adults but minors), has medical negligence, and lies about their own practices.
It's not the beliefs we're protesting against; It's the bait and switch and the destructive official policies the Church of Scientology holds. If you go to any other religion and ask what they're all about they'll tell you. Free of charge. However, in Scientology you don't really learn what the religion is about until you've already invested some 300,000 US dollars into it.
It's not the religion. its the way its used. People die, people go broke, it is a cult. I mean, L. ron's son and grandson even admitted that it was bullshit. Its a joke.
What Muslims WON'T be outraged at:--->> ~~Flying planes into buildings full of people ~~Executing school children ~~Promoting world domination ~~Calling for destruction of Israel & all Jews ~~Their Pedophile prophet's murderous legacy ~~Sex with children ~~Forcefully converting non-muslims ~~Beheading apostates ~~Blowing up vehicles & buildings full of people... What muslims WILL be outraged at:--->> ~~Stupid cartoons... Copy and paste...FUCK ISLAM
The reason this video stands out, is because almost every intelligent (and I use that term loosely) christian will tell you how ridiculous scientology is. The hypocrisy of it all both makes me, laugh, but at the same time, cry.
I don't know about everyone, but it seems like there is a big suppression of intellect in this country. We need to focus on our human capital! We need to continue to make sure we are competitors in this world!
this was very cool. thank you! i've been a christian, a buddhist, a this and a that, and recently due to heal issues considered scientology only to find (online) horrific things about the "religion".
bottom line: i don't think i need a religion, or a group that thinks like me.
Remember that while you may not believe in other religions, they are transparent. You can get their holy books and read everything about their beliefs. Not Scientology. You have to buy courses to slowly learn the whole story. Also other religions take donations, they don't sell services.
Like I said to you before, you have not done your homework. Scientology is extremely dangerous. I agree with you that all religions are dangerous as I'm a complete atheist myself. However you're arguing that Scientology is just like every other religion and therefore should be treated the same. I don't think Scientology should be recognized as a religion at all. So in effect you are defending Scientology.
As I've said 1,000 times, I'm not a Scientologist and I'm not defending Scientology, only pointing out that they are no more weird or dangerous than any other religions. Guess what? All religions suck money from their members! There are places in the world today where Muslims are killing Christians and Christians are killing Muslims just because of their delusional superstitious beliefs. The "crimes" of Scientology are trivial compared to these horrors.
Why do you put the word 'crime' with quotation marks? The crimes of Scientology are real and not trivial. Stop saying such nonsense. Stop apologizing for them. Stope defending them. It is NOT a religion. It is a dangerous cult. Are other religions cults too?? Most probably. But don't belittle their crimes. That is disgusting.
I'm not a christian i don't belive in no god and i think christian and scientology are crazy people but scientology takes your money defames you tells lies stalks you and destroy there enemys by any means belive scientology is much worser then you think tell me this would religon forces you to pay 400,000$ to tell you more only scientology does and thay belive in alien guy named Xenu at OT3 and look up the ship name freewind too good luck and all.
yeah man, im atheist and i look at all the worlds religions and they all seem like very good helpful things that create cultures and drive people to do good things...BUT Scientology is NOT A religion, It may claim to want to help people. But they have sworn beliefs written by LRH that says they can: Lie to, Blackmail, Sue, harm in any way and DESTROY their enemies. WHICH THEY HAVE DONE MANY TIMES....
As a pastafarian, I think you are all nuts. Scientology is much more sinister than you are letting on, though. Next stop: Those that marry 14 yr old girls to their older cousins!
At least Christianity doesn't charge you over $350,000 to learn that they believe in a virgin birth and they certainly don't deny that they do unlike scientology that will charge you a fortune BEFORE telling you about Xenu and your body being infested with the souls of dead space aliens.
Ever heard a debate and had someone say your of topic.Well what does Scientology have to do with Christianity.Other than LRH says Jesus is not real.Type in r6 implant in wikipedia and see what you get. =)
"1. Most of the people attacking Scientology are Christians"
You pulled that one right out of your ass
"2. Christian beliefs are just as weird as Scientology beliefs"
Mabey but anon protest the org not the beliefs
"3. Christians have been killing Jews and Muslims for centuries"
True but not any more. Different time mean different things and events are ethically correct. Not saying they should have been but its not su much religion as lack of understanding.
Dont you think saying "Get rid of religion" is just as bad as a christian fundemental extremist saying "get rid of muslims?" also your saying "religion is bad because people have died because of it" true but your saying we should get rid of it because of this? Your already gone under the assumption that the religion is wrong... How don't you know that it is real? If your going to attack religion you should use a borderline ad hominem attack or over simplify the beliefs.
Here you will find thousands of reasons to believe otherwise:
xenuDOTnet
whyaretheydeadDOTnet
exscientologykidsDOTcom
xenutvDOTcom
And Google:
Scientology RPF / Scientology Disconnection / Scientology Fair Game / Operation Snow White / R6 Implant / Xenu / Time Magazine article Cult of Greed and Power
At least the Christians/Jews/Muslims/Buddhists will tell you straight out what they believe and their teachings are of love and peace even if the followers don't always get that.
You state that other religions are "teachings of love". Have you actually read the Bible or the Koran? The truth is that over the years MILLIONS of men women and children have been KILLED in the name of Allah, Jehovah, and Jesus. All religions have blood on their hands. In terms of the total harm done by religions Scientology is a tiny speck of dust.
Why don't you take the number of illegal activities/deaths etc in the last 50 years committed by Christians then divide it by the tens of millions of followers of Christianity. Then, do the same math - number of illegal activities/deaths committed by scientology members and divide it by the census estimate of scientology's 50,000 or so members and see how the math pans out in terms of corruption.
Wow, this video is disgraceful and I personally am an atheist. yes, i believe Christanity can be driven WAY too far sometimes, but it does not compare the the Church of Scientology that steals your money and refuses people medical care and attacks people in such a manner. Yes, I get insulted by Christians at times, but those people aren't very Christian, obviously. Scientology however bases itself on attacking anyone who doesn't believe though....horrible HORRIBLE religion.
U are trying to show us cristianity is just as silly as scientology right? well u may be right on the point that both can be harmful. but here is were u are wrong... cuz going to work can be harmful every day. cristianity can be harmful, given the "faith" blinded ppl, with no clue as how the world works and rely to much on faith, and then there's scientology... a sinister cult that continues making intentional victims and scams ppl out of their money on an every day basis...
Fuck all your religions. Happiness is obtainable outside your sheep pens. Such a dependancy on your idiotic beliefs. Hope you all die and leave nothing behind.
Here is my last comment for the day. No matter what you say Evoloution is NOT completely logic. Religion is NOT completely faith. Religion is mostly faith w/ sum logic; Evoloution is MOSTLY LOGIC w/ SOME FAITH. EVOLOUTION IS A THEORY. NOT A RELIGION.
I looked up FFS in the Urban Dictionary. Whoa! I'll have to try that one on my wife! LOL! As for Troll, I object. I'm not attempting to disrupt rants on Scientology, just pointing out that all religions preach absurd things and all can be dangerous.
ps... Chuck Norris used be a tough guy but I think Pee-wee Herman could kick his ass now.
True, they can be dangerous, and have shown that in the past. Unfortunately, this is not the past, Christianity is not killing defectors, misusing copyright laws, cheating the IRS, or trying to turn the U.S. government into a full-blown theocracy.
Anyone can shoop an image with what ever wording they like.Where is your actual proof be it by showing us the costing structure to be saved by christianity and the large legal campaigns against christianity because they allowed one of their members to slowly waiste away in a dungeon ? 'PleasePonderthis', please ponder this:
Can I have actual linked content to an offical legal website 'for example austlilaw', etc; or media coverage backing up your claims ?
It sounds like you want PROOF that Christianity can be dangerous. OK, let's start with this. Hundreds of children have died due to attempted faith-healing in various Christian denominations. Want Proof? Just Google search, "fatalities from religion"
All these children died due to absurd religious beliefs. Where is your outrage over all these dead children? I am not defending Scientology, just pointing out that ALL religions are dangerous. Want more proof?
Here is indisputable evidence, published in the reliable journal Pediatrics, that hundreds of children have died due to attempted faith-healing in various Christian denominations. Just Google search, "fatalities from religion" to find the article. It pops right up on Google.
All these children died due to absurd religious beliefs. Where is your outrage over all these dead children? I am not defending Scientology, just pointing out that all religions can be dangerous.
LOL! I bet cats wish they got nine lives! But the truth is they get only one, just like humans. One life is enough for me. How about you? Many people are afraid to die. They will grasp at a religion that offers eternal life even though they know in their heart that such claims are nonsense. Muslims are told they will live forever. Will they? Christians will fight cancer with horrible Chemo and radiation for years. Why not just die and join Jesus? Because they know its a lie.
Yeah, that makes TOTAL sense. THAT'S why we don't want to die. Not because we want to live our lives to the fullest and grow old /die peacefully, NOT AT ALL.We have families and friends(most of us) that we love and want to spend our days on earth with. Did THAT ever OCCUR to you PleasePonderThis?
What is your point? Are you saying that because other organizations are doing more bad than the CoS, that the CoS should be left alone. By you way of thinking, police should only go after murderers and leave the rapists, thieves, drug dealers etc alone. Sad logic.
First of all, I love penguins. Secondly, I am NOT defending Scientology. IF they actually do immoral or illegal things then your concern is certainly justified. My point is not that Scientology is wonderful but rather that ALL religions are dangerous.
I agree with you. But your message sounds very much like you are telling people to leave $cientology alone because there are bigger fish to fry. Well perhaps once they have cooked this little gold fish they may go after the bigger breeds of fish. Every long journey starts with a first step.
Who cares? No one is talking about other religions in the videos you spam. They are talking about Scientology. You are the one introducing other religions into it. I don't disagree with your message but you are presenting it where it is not important. Just because someone slams Scientology doesn't mean they are atheist, Christian, Muslim etc. Thats the best thing, people of all faiths can hate this cult.
Basically all I'm seeing here is a very common ruse used by most scientologists. "Hey guys why are we being persecuted? go after teh christians or somethin lol k?"
Incoherent spamming and willful ignorance does not prove your point.
Go to google, type in operation freakout or operation snow white
knowledge is free
(in during WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES!!???? NO NO NO REALLY WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?? NO THOSE ARE ALL LIES! WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?? etc. etc.)
1234, i am well aware of the outer structure of Anon. at the same time using the name Anon is a useful shorthand for all those who sympathize and are involved in the cause. at the same time there are others who are opposed to CoS and the methods of Anon. thus i mentioned them as well.
if you will search for my other posts they often begin or end with:
remember, *you* are the body politik, the angry masses.
Oswald2001. Thank you! Now I understand the real reason for the massive attack on Scientology. The founder of their religion said, "There was no Christ." Infidels! Let the Holy War begin. Deus le volt! God wills it!
Let's see here;in one hand I die and go to heaven, am reincarnated into another being,etc. In the other hand I rot in the ground. That's it. The point I wish to make is this: You've obviously stressed that YOU beleive religon is a bunch of "supernatural beleifs" created by ignorant men in 1008, therefore since it's 2008 lets WAKE UP; BS!
I am a Catholic, and I have not even gone to church for at least 6 years(Im 15), let alone had my 1st communion/ read the bible. You might be asking how am I a Catholic then? I may not've read or done anything religous but I firmly beleive in the churches teachings of a higher power/existence. You either beleive in evoloution or you are atheist so I have this to say: There is NO WAY we evolved from monkeys.
Science has proven, beyond a showdown of a doubt, that we evolved from lower primates. Please read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It teaches that angels and demons are real and is filled with archaic concepts from the dark ages. Then read several science books and decide for yourself what makes more sense. Please keep thinking and asking questions.
im tired now. NO MORE ARGUING(i'm typing this on my wii browser.) I can tell neither of us will win the other over. Plus I'd rather defend my beleif and keep an open mind than attack anothers with a closed mind. Scientology is cult. We can all agree on that.
There is NO WAY human beings existence is simply a big coincidence. " The earth just happened to have all the resources to support life, was just far enough from the sun; We also evolved from a "Primordial Ooze?" What created the ooze? Life? Well either God, a huge coincidence, ooze or a random massive explosion of unknown origin.
Scientists do NOT believe that human existence is "just a coincidence" or that people "sprung up" out of a primordial ooze. Evolution involves millions of tiny changes over millions and millions of years. Please read The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins.
You decide. If you wish to prove you're beleifs and convert others to the "horrible truth," be my guest. I try not to reveal/push my thoughts and beleifs onto others but YOU are the exception. Try to convert people. You'll only weaken you're beleifs and justify others because of one simple fact: Why must you disprove other's beleifs if you beleive so strongly in your own?
Our beliefs do not change reality. Do you think dogs and cats live forever? Of course not. We are mammals too. Hoping and believing that we will live forever will not change reality. Life is wonderful. Don't waste it on superstitious nonsense. Reality is not so bad!
Then just becuz YOU think religion is nonsense does not change how I think evoloution is nonsense: What created those changes millions of years ago? If we are mammals why do we just happen to be superior to every other animal and why are there still monkeys around?
well just immagin billions of apes and all of a sudden a genetic chance wich can be caused by a lot of factors make this ape a bit different from all the rest of the apes. That little change in DNA makes it so for instance it's brain makes a new enzyme that allows it to opperate faster and by that giving it a higher chance to survive well then that ape will make offspring with that same change in dna this doesn't mean the apes who doesn't have this change all of a sudden die.
chelanfarsight, are you sure? Are Tom Cruise and John Travolta really part of a "totalitarian regime" or is this a Holy War? Why not attack dangerous Christian denominations? Jehovahs Witnesses kill their children by refusing blood transfusions! Why are you not going after them? Because they are Christians? What about Christian Scientists and Pentecostals who pray for their sick kids instead of taking them to doctors? Where is your outrage? What am I missing?
yes, actually i am quite sure. and if you are willfully refusing to look at the evidence that has convinced so many of us, than i can only conclude that you are either acting in an hysterical manner or a scifag yourself. my guess is the latter.
however, if it is the former, than i appeal to you to set aside your understandable fears and apprehensions and look in depth into these accusations that have been made worldwide against the CoS.
are you serious that isnt what this is about people who cares what they believe its the actions of those who wish to surpress our ideas on the net. keep your fingers on the pulse!!
Yes Christianity is as weird as scientology but they don't sue people who change there beliefs they don't scam there members in to giving them money scientology is dangerous !!! and for that it needs to be stopped cause that is the difference between cults and religions
Dear lodeclaes60689, you claim Christianity doesn't "scam their members into giving them money" Oh, I get it, all those mega-churches and cathedrals were built with cash sent down by Jesus! LOL! You claim "Scientology is dangerous!!" But other religions are not? Friend have your heard about religious massacres such as the Crusades, Inquisition, Holy Wars, Palestine, IRA, Iraq, Serbia, 9-11? Millions killed fighting for imaginary gods.
See the problem with you already is you call Scientology a religion this is not what is is it's a cult and there's a very strong difference between that btw stop using stuff that happend in the dark ages. Just so you know i don't consider myself as christian either because i could cross that out with logic reasoning and just wel just the real science
..those "mega-churches and cathedrals" were sponsored by wealthy patrons hundreds of years ago--THEY were the ones who approached architects to build the churches for them, often to house important relics or stand as testament to their (the patron's) power. I would think that paying for something that THEY COMMISSIONED is pretty obviously different from being required to PAY FOR INFORMATION on a supposed "faith", no?
You can believe in Xenu or whatever all you want, people have the right to believe in whatever they want. As you have said, most religons are silly. The problem that people have with scientology is the corruption that is very present within the organization. Such as people wanting to leave being forced into hotel rooms to eventually die of dehydration. Frivolous lawsuits and conspiracies that are initiated by the "church" to silence any opponents.
My point was not to defend Scientology but rather to show that ALL religions are nonsense. IF it is true that Scientology won't let people leave then they are a cult and perhaps a dangerous one. However, if you think that cults harm people but religions don't please ponder the Crusades, the Inquisition, countless Holy Wars, IRA, Jew killing pograms, Beiruit, Serbia, Bosnia, Israel, Palestine, Mulsim and Hindu massacres in India, etc, etc. Millions dead and wounded fighting for imaginary gods.
trac4yt, you said, "Any born-again Christian following Jesus Christ doesn't kill people." LOL! Our prisons are filled with born-again murders. And please don't say they aren't "real" Christians. Who are you to judge? And our military is filled with born-agains who can't wait to kill Muslim infidels in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who can blame them? Their Bible fully supports killing people of other faiths. Want the chapter and verse?
But the jews killed Jesus for the Lulz. Scientology is not about Lulz it is about suppressing free speech, stealing money, accidentally killing people and being an all around Lulz Kill.
If scientology was so good as you make them, why the hell are they so overprotective and offensive against anyone not following the scientology-lifestyle?
Its more fucked up than islam, christianity and all those other crap cults. End 'em all.
wow i hate you fuck u u are trying to make people stupid just like you so that you can recruit you adn ur scientoligist fuckers to do stupid shit and pretend to be doing good stuff and bla bla bla scientology is a DISEASE that is spreading between very famous people and crack addicts plz dont listen to him and down mark my comment thumbs down because you all know what im saying is true...
Scientology is weird. But Christians believe in only reasonable things. Like invisible angels and demons. LOL! And that God once killed everyone in the entire world. Even all the babies! All drowned! Only one family survived. Then He sent a ghost (yep, a ghost) to impregnate a virgin lady. Why? So she could deliver a man-god called Jesus. Why? So Jesus could be killed! Why? So Christians, but ONLY Christians, could live forever and ever! LOL! Absolute insanity! And you laugh at Scientology?
i grew up under the christian faith went to a catholic school dragged to church on sundays.
there is nothing in the bible that proves there is a god its all about faith and as far as ime concerned faith is for suckers.
i didnt teach this bullshit to my kids and a lot of other people are turning away from the church . christian churches are dieing. but not fast enough for me .
Of course christianity is just as kooky as scientology. Just fabricated a couple millenia earlier. In fact, the ridiculousness of established religions INSPIRED L. Ron Hubbard to fabricate a brand new one in the early '50's.
scientology is NOT A RELIGION!!!!!!! it has front groups that are only there to recruit the only reason scientologists are against phyciatry is because they need to keep the mentally ill...ILL so they don't see what a farse scientology is
Everyone relax religion is slowly in decline
in a few hundred of years we will have a golden age of free thought
and no religion
filipjovanovic1 5 months ago
Hehe. It's funny to watch the Christians pretend there's no similarity in their weird beliefs.
Atheism. No nonsense allowed.
lostinpgh 1 year ago
The maker of this video is obviously a moron and therefore probably a $cientologist, too. People see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. There's no proof that would change these people's brainwashed minds... so why bother? I give up!
leomcallister9 1 year ago
Down with the cultists.
geopan123 2 years ago
Stupid, stupid, stupid. One star. Congratulations.
geopan123 2 years ago
don't worry, all religions and cults will crumble soon. too bad it won't be in our lifetime. Only when all the cults are gone will there be a golden age and humanity can advance untethered. we have come a long way but most of us are still dumb as fuck.
MegaPuttputt 2 years ago
The extent at which these abuses are practiced, institutionalized, and enforced by the main administrative body of the organization is not only alarming; it is criminal. Organized Scientology operates as a for-profit corporation, where exploitative fees are mandatory for pseudo-scientific "courses." As such, Organized Scientology should be classified as a business, and indeed only relies on "religious" status to evade both taxes and criticism.
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
The current administration of the "Church" of Scientology shows consistent disturbing patterns of behavior that intimidates critics, suppresses dissent, abuses the legal system, destroys the basic family unit and other social bonds, interferes with a person's right to leave the Church's organization "Sea Org," coerces abortions, has abusive working conditions (not just for adults but minors), has medical negligence, and lies about their own practices.
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
It's not the beliefs we're protesting against; It's the bait and switch and the destructive official policies the Church of Scientology holds. If you go to any other religion and ask what they're all about they'll tell you. Free of charge. However, in Scientology you don't really learn what the religion is about until you've already invested some 300,000 US dollars into it.
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
Sorry my friend... but in this video you're giving too much credit to the cult of Scientology.
SCIENTOLOGY IS NOT A RELIGION...
AnniaLilith 2 years ago 2
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PleasePonderThis 2 years ago
PleasePonderThis: No one gives a shit that Christianity or Scientology have weird belief systems. "Xenu" isn't the issue here.
Your irrelevant video misses the point entirely.
greenmctea 2 years ago 3
It's not the religion. its the way its used. People die, people go broke, it is a cult. I mean, L. ron's son and grandson even admitted that it was bullshit. Its a joke.
DanielHubb360 3 years ago 7
ISLAM4THICKONES 3 years ago 3
The reason this video stands out, is because almost every intelligent (and I use that term loosely) christian will tell you how ridiculous scientology is. The hypocrisy of it all both makes me, laugh, but at the same time, cry.
I don't know about everyone, but it seems like there is a big suppression of intellect in this country. We need to focus on our human capital! We need to continue to make sure we are competitors in this world!
rockon1569 3 years ago 3
yeah my thetan level was messed up
NBD4EVER23 3 years ago
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scientology saves lifes
NBD4EVER23 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Scientology saves liVes. But thanks for trying.
geamer 3 years ago
scientology is the for weak minded empty headed people that cant realize being slaves is not a religion.brainwashed robots
RockAfella73 2 years ago 3
this was very cool. thank you! i've been a christian, a buddhist, a this and a that, and recently due to heal issues considered scientology only to find (online) horrific things about the "religion".
bottom line: i don't think i need a religion, or a group that thinks like me.
loved the video.
thanks, alot to ponder.
ilovemovies5 3 years ago 4
Remember that while you may not believe in other religions, they are transparent. You can get their holy books and read everything about their beliefs. Not Scientology. You have to buy courses to slowly learn the whole story. Also other religions take donations, they don't sell services.
macmarkey 3 years ago 2
Dear PleasePonderThis,
Like I said to you before, you have not done your homework. Scientology is extremely dangerous. I agree with you that all religions are dangerous as I'm a complete atheist myself. However you're arguing that Scientology is just like every other religion and therefore should be treated the same. I don't think Scientology should be recognized as a religion at all. So in effect you are defending Scientology.
fred26er 3 years ago
Don't belittle the crimes of $cientology because of other beliefs. $cientology is a criminal organization and it must stop.
That you defend Scientology is despicable. You've obviously not done your homework.
fred26er 3 years ago 4
Dear Fred26er:
As I've said 1,000 times, I'm not a Scientologist and I'm not defending Scientology, only pointing out that they are no more weird or dangerous than any other religions. Guess what? All religions suck money from their members! There are places in the world today where Muslims are killing Christians and Christians are killing Muslims just because of their delusional superstitious beliefs. The "crimes" of Scientology are trivial compared to these horrors.
PleasePonderThis 3 years ago
Why do you put the word 'crime' with quotation marks? The crimes of Scientology are real and not trivial. Stop saying such nonsense. Stop apologizing for them. Stope defending them. It is NOT a religion. It is a dangerous cult. Are other religions cults too?? Most probably. But don't belittle their crimes. That is disgusting.
fred26er 3 years ago 4
I'm not a christian i don't belive in no god and i think christian and scientology are crazy people but scientology takes your money defames you tells lies stalks you and destroy there enemys by any means belive scientology is much worser then you think tell me this would religon forces you to pay 400,000$ to tell you more only scientology does and thay belive in alien guy named Xenu at OT3 and look up the ship name freewind too good luck and all.
Gothichell 3 years ago
yeah man, im atheist and i look at all the worlds religions and they all seem like very good helpful things that create cultures and drive people to do good things...BUT Scientology is NOT A religion, It may claim to want to help people. But they have sworn beliefs written by LRH that says they can: Lie to, Blackmail, Sue, harm in any way and DESTROY their enemies. WHICH THEY HAVE DONE MANY TIMES....
soggynippleses 3 years ago
As a pastafarian, I think you are all nuts. Scientology is much more sinister than you are letting on, though. Next stop: Those that marry 14 yr old girls to their older cousins!
Dominofrost 3 years ago 4
At least Christianity doesn't charge you over $350,000 to learn that they believe in a virgin birth and they certainly don't deny that they do unlike scientology that will charge you a fortune BEFORE telling you about Xenu and your body being infested with the souls of dead space aliens.
LindiVid 3 years ago
Ever heard a debate and had someone say your of topic.Well what does Scientology have to do with Christianity.Other than LRH says Jesus is not real.Type in r6 implant in wikipedia and see what you get. =)
pacmanq 3 years ago
Dear pacmanq:
Hum? Off topic? Please consider this...
1. Most of the people attacking Scientology are Christians
2. Christian beliefs are just as weird as Scientology beliefs
3. Christians have been killing Jews and Muslims for centuries
4. All religions are delusional and dangerous
5. Thus this video is right on topic
6. Hope this helps
PleasePonderThis 3 years ago
"1. Most of the people attacking Scientology are Christians"
You pulled that one right out of your ass
"2. Christian beliefs are just as weird as Scientology beliefs"
Mabey but anon protest the org not the beliefs
"3. Christians have been killing Jews and Muslims for centuries"
True but not any more. Different time mean different things and events are ethically correct. Not saying they should have been but its not su much religion as lack of understanding.
older1280 3 years ago
Dont you think saying "Get rid of religion" is just as bad as a christian fundemental extremist saying "get rid of muslims?" also your saying "religion is bad because people have died because of it" true but your saying we should get rid of it because of this? Your already gone under the assumption that the religion is wrong... How don't you know that it is real? If your going to attack religion you should use a borderline ad hominem attack or over simplify the beliefs.
older1280 3 years ago
Here you will find thousands of reasons to believe otherwise:
xenuDOTnet
whyaretheydeadDOTnet
exscientologykidsDOTcom
xenutvDOTcom
And Google:
Scientology RPF / Scientology Disconnection / Scientology Fair Game / Operation Snow White / R6 Implant / Xenu / Time Magazine article Cult of Greed and Power
At least the Christians/Jews/Muslims/Buddhists will tell you straight out what they believe and their teachings are of love and peace even if the followers don't always get that.
LindiVid 3 years ago
Dear LindiVid:
You state that other religions are "teachings of love". Have you actually read the Bible or the Koran? The truth is that over the years MILLIONS of men women and children have been KILLED in the name of Allah, Jehovah, and Jesus. All religions have blood on their hands. In terms of the total harm done by religions Scientology is a tiny speck of dust.
PleasePonderThis 3 years ago
Yes, but how many in the last 50yrs?
Why don't you take the number of illegal activities/deaths etc in the last 50 years committed by Christians then divide it by the tens of millions of followers of Christianity. Then, do the same math - number of illegal activities/deaths committed by scientology members and divide it by the census estimate of scientology's 50,000 or so members and see how the math pans out in terms of corruption.
Save it.
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LindiVid 3 years ago
Wow, this video is disgraceful and I personally am an atheist. yes, i believe Christanity can be driven WAY too far sometimes, but it does not compare the the Church of Scientology that steals your money and refuses people medical care and attacks people in such a manner. Yes, I get insulted by Christians at times, but those people aren't very Christian, obviously. Scientology however bases itself on attacking anyone who doesn't believe though....horrible HORRIBLE religion.
TheyCallMeThumbs 3 years ago
To PleasePonderThis
U are trying to show us cristianity is just as silly as scientology right? well u may be right on the point that both can be harmful. but here is were u are wrong... cuz going to work can be harmful every day. cristianity can be harmful, given the "faith" blinded ppl, with no clue as how the world works and rely to much on faith, and then there's scientology... a sinister cult that continues making intentional victims and scams ppl out of their money on an every day basis...
athosbmf 3 years ago 2
Fuck all your religions. Happiness is obtainable outside your sheep pens. Such a dependancy on your idiotic beliefs. Hope you all die and leave nothing behind.
crazykona15 3 years ago
>>Fuck all your religions. Happiness is obtainable outside your sheep pens.
Wow dude, you sure seem happy outside of the sheep pen. lolololol but seriously, you need to calm down man.
>>I hope you all die and leave nothing behind.
>>I hope you all die and leave
>>I hope you all die
>>I hope you all die.
THUS WE HAVE THE MORALS OF ATHEISM.
tripletrules 3 years ago
i find it funny that you used a john lennon song at the end, seeings how he too gave his life to christ at one point.... look it up ....
BigG99 3 years ago
Shawn Lonsdale? Lisa Mcpherson? Noah Lottick?
Why are they dead dot net
Taosunwu 3 years ago 3
Here is my last comment for the day. No matter what you say Evoloution is NOT completely logic. Religion is NOT completely faith. Religion is mostly faith w/ sum logic; Evoloution is MOSTLY LOGIC w/ SOME FAITH. EVOLOUTION IS A THEORY. NOT A RELIGION.
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
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firstcoming 4 years ago 4
STOP BEING A TROLL FFS BK
chucknorris51 4 years ago 2
Dear Chucknorris51:
I looked up FFS in the Urban Dictionary. Whoa! I'll have to try that one on my wife! LOL! As for Troll, I object. I'm not attempting to disrupt rants on Scientology, just pointing out that all religions preach absurd things and all can be dangerous.
ps... Chuck Norris used be a tough guy but I think Pee-wee Herman could kick his ass now.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Put religion into question, but never... and I mean NEVER challenge Chuck Norris again >_>, because...
...When the boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
...Chuck Norris doesn't read books, he stares at them until they tell him everything that's written inside.
...God spoke 'let there be light' right after Chuck Norris spoke 'let there be god'.
Oh and anyways... pls call me troll xD
crapNmore 4 years ago 2
True, they can be dangerous, and have shown that in the past. Unfortunately, this is not the past, Christianity is not killing defectors, misusing copyright laws, cheating the IRS, or trying to turn the U.S. government into a full-blown theocracy.
Scientology is. Hence war.
chucknorris51 4 years ago
Does it make you any better if you think you are slightly less weird. Fact is, you are still weird.
Twizee 4 years ago
I have a question for you then.
Anyone can shoop an image with what ever wording they like.Where is your actual proof be it by showing us the costing structure to be saved by christianity and the large legal campaigns against christianity because they allowed one of their members to slowly waiste away in a dungeon ? 'PleasePonderthis', please ponder this:
Can I have actual linked content to an offical legal website 'for example austlilaw', etc; or media coverage backing up your claims ?
rudkips 4 years ago
rudkips,
It sounds like you want PROOF that Christianity can be dangerous. OK, let's start with this. Hundreds of children have died due to attempted faith-healing in various Christian denominations. Want Proof? Just Google search, "fatalities from religion"
All these children died due to absurd religious beliefs. Where is your outrage over all these dead children? I am not defending Scientology, just pointing out that ALL religions are dangerous. Want more proof?
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
PleasePonderThis, please ponder this (I'm liking this pun):
I want a well thought out arguement backed up with either a published journal of my peers, documented 'factual', evidence, or citing legal president.
Did I not use concise enough wording ?
If you cant produce any of the above, I would advise not to comment on topics of great debate.
As whatever ethical and or moral point of view you are trying to get across, gets misconstrued for blatant attention whoring.
rudkips 4 years ago
Dear Rudkips,
Here is indisputable evidence, published in the reliable journal Pediatrics, that hundreds of children have died due to attempted faith-healing in various Christian denominations. Just Google search, "fatalities from religion" to find the article. It pops right up on Google.
All these children died due to absurd religious beliefs. Where is your outrage over all these dead children? I am not defending Scientology, just pointing out that all religions can be dangerous.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
My outrage ended when all those deaths were tried in court and heard by the public.
Taosunwu 3 years ago
In back to the dog and cat thing, you were discussing with Rob please don't tell me that you'd never heard of a cat having nine lives? LOLZ
oldmemefukswitu 4 years ago
oldmemefukswitu,
LOL! I bet cats wish they got nine lives! But the truth is they get only one, just like humans. One life is enough for me. How about you? Many people are afraid to die. They will grasp at a religion that offers eternal life even though they know in their heart that such claims are nonsense. Muslims are told they will live forever. Will they? Christians will fight cancer with horrible Chemo and radiation for years. Why not just die and join Jesus? Because they know its a lie.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Yeah, that makes TOTAL sense. THAT'S why we don't want to die. Not because we want to live our lives to the fullest and grow old /die peacefully, NOT AT ALL.We have families and friends(most of us) that we love and want to spend our days on earth with. Did THAT ever OCCUR to you PleasePonderThis?
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
For a person who is a NONBELIEVER, you spend a lot of time NONBELIEVING.... I guess I would ask myself what if I was wrong?
Signed; just a glass of water out of the Ocean
oldmemefukswitu 4 years ago
Dear oldmemefukswitu,
Good point. I guess I should ask myself, "what if I am wrong?"
OMG! If Jesus is god I'll be cast into the fire for not believing in him!
I'll join BILLIONS of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and agnostics in HELL! But, wait....
What if I pick Jesus and ALLAH is the REAL god? OMG! I'll be cast into the fire with all the other Christians!
LOL! All savage nonsense made up by primitive men 1500 years before the invention of the light bulb. Stop your threats.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
you gotta be kidding...people are brainwashed by that crap
videocrash 4 years ago 2
What is your point? Are you saying that because other organizations are doing more bad than the CoS, that the CoS should be left alone. By you way of thinking, police should only go after murderers and leave the rapists, thieves, drug dealers etc alone. Sad logic.
SlappyThePenguin 4 years ago
Dear SlappyThePenguin:
First of all, I love penguins. Secondly, I am NOT defending Scientology. IF they actually do immoral or illegal things then your concern is certainly justified. My point is not that Scientology is wonderful but rather that ALL religions are dangerous.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
I agree with you. But your message sounds very much like you are telling people to leave $cientology alone because there are bigger fish to fry. Well perhaps once they have cooked this little gold fish they may go after the bigger breeds of fish. Every long journey starts with a first step.
SlappyThePenguin 4 years ago
Who cares? No one is talking about other religions in the videos you spam. They are talking about Scientology. You are the one introducing other religions into it. I don't disagree with your message but you are presenting it where it is not important. Just because someone slams Scientology doesn't mean they are atheist, Christian, Muslim etc. Thats the best thing, people of all faiths can hate this cult.
WoodenSwordL 4 years ago
don't take any notice of this propaganda bullshit.
supashoopa 4 years ago
Basically all I'm seeing here is a very common ruse used by most scientologists. "Hey guys why are we being persecuted? go after teh christians or somethin lol k?"
Incoherent spamming and willful ignorance does not prove your point.
Go to google, type in operation freakout or operation snow white
knowledge is free
(in during WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES!!???? NO NO NO REALLY WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?? NO THOSE ARE ALL LIES! WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?? etc. etc.)
turboflame12 4 years ago 3
1234, i am well aware of the outer structure of Anon. at the same time using the name Anon is a useful shorthand for all those who sympathize and are involved in the cause. at the same time there are others who are opposed to CoS and the methods of Anon. thus i mentioned them as well.
if you will search for my other posts they often begin or end with:
remember, *you* are the body politik, the angry masses.
{CAPS =/= win.}
chelanfarsight 4 years ago
Oswald2001. Thank you! Now I understand the real reason for the massive attack on Scientology. The founder of their religion said, "There was no Christ." Infidels! Let the Holy War begin. Deus le volt! God wills it!
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
once again you are responding with histrionics. what makes you think oswald2001 represents either Anon or any other party opposed to the CoS?
chelanfarsight 4 years ago
the main difference.coming from a atheist.
christians dont have to pay to believe.
scifags need to donate hundreds of thousands before they even hear the story of their creation.
XenuDoesNotForgive 4 years ago
Let's see here;in one hand I die and go to heaven, am reincarnated into another being,etc. In the other hand I rot in the ground. That's it. The point I wish to make is this: You've obviously stressed that YOU beleive religon is a bunch of "supernatural beleifs" created by ignorant men in 1008, therefore since it's 2008 lets WAKE UP; BS!
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
I am a Catholic, and I have not even gone to church for at least 6 years(Im 15), let alone had my 1st communion/ read the bible. You might be asking how am I a Catholic then? I may not've read or done anything religous but I firmly beleive in the churches teachings of a higher power/existence. You either beleive in evoloution or you are atheist so I have this to say: There is NO WAY we evolved from monkeys.
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
Rob:
Science has proven, beyond a showdown of a doubt, that we evolved from lower primates. Please read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It teaches that angels and demons are real and is filled with archaic concepts from the dark ages. Then read several science books and decide for yourself what makes more sense. Please keep thinking and asking questions.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
im tired now. NO MORE ARGUING(i'm typing this on my wii browser.) I can tell neither of us will win the other over. Plus I'd rather defend my beleif and keep an open mind than attack anothers with a closed mind. Scientology is cult. We can all agree on that.
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
There is NO WAY human beings existence is simply a big coincidence. " The earth just happened to have all the resources to support life, was just far enough from the sun; We also evolved from a "Primordial Ooze?" What created the ooze? Life? Well either God, a huge coincidence, ooze or a random massive explosion of unknown origin.
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
Dear Rob:
Scientists do NOT believe that human existence is "just a coincidence" or that people "sprung up" out of a primordial ooze. Evolution involves millions of tiny changes over millions and millions of years. Please read The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
You decide. If you wish to prove you're beleifs and convert others to the "horrible truth," be my guest. I try not to reveal/push my thoughts and beleifs onto others but YOU are the exception. Try to convert people. You'll only weaken you're beleifs and justify others because of one simple fact: Why must you disprove other's beleifs if you beleive so strongly in your own?
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
Dear Rob:
Our beliefs do not change reality. Do you think dogs and cats live forever? Of course not. We are mammals too. Hoping and believing that we will live forever will not change reality. Life is wonderful. Don't waste it on superstitious nonsense. Reality is not so bad!
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Then just becuz YOU think religion is nonsense does not change how I think evoloution is nonsense: What created those changes millions of years ago? If we are mammals why do we just happen to be superior to every other animal and why are there still monkeys around?
THEROB3RT 4 years ago
well just immagin billions of apes and all of a sudden a genetic chance wich can be caused by a lot of factors make this ape a bit different from all the rest of the apes. That little change in DNA makes it so for instance it's brain makes a new enzyme that allows it to opperate faster and by that giving it a higher chance to survive well then that ape will make offspring with that same change in dna this doesn't mean the apes who doesn't have this change all of a sudden die.
lodeclaes060689 3 years ago
once again fear and misdirection are being used.
this is NOT about belief systems, it never was and i believe it never will be.
this is about a totalitarian regime disguised as a religion.
remember, *you* are the body politik, the angry masses.
chelanfarsight 4 years ago
chelanfarsight, are you sure? Are Tom Cruise and John Travolta really part of a "totalitarian regime" or is this a Holy War? Why not attack dangerous Christian denominations? Jehovahs Witnesses kill their children by refusing blood transfusions! Why are you not going after them? Because they are Christians? What about Christian Scientists and Pentecostals who pray for their sick kids instead of taking them to doctors? Where is your outrage? What am I missing?
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
yes, actually i am quite sure. and if you are willfully refusing to look at the evidence that has convinced so many of us, than i can only conclude that you are either acting in an hysterical manner or a scifag yourself. my guess is the latter.
however, if it is the former, than i appeal to you to set aside your understandable fears and apprehensions and look in depth into these accusations that have been made worldwide against the CoS.
chelanfarsight 4 years ago 3
JW's aren't Christian.....
Pandaesque 4 years ago
are you serious that isnt what this is about people who cares what they believe its the actions of those who wish to surpress our ideas on the net. keep your fingers on the pulse!!
Sephiroth2550 4 years ago
Yes Christianity is as weird as scientology but they don't sue people who change there beliefs they don't scam there members in to giving them money scientology is dangerous !!! and for that it needs to be stopped cause that is the difference between cults and religions
lodeclaes060689 4 years ago 3
Dear lodeclaes60689, you claim Christianity doesn't "scam their members into giving them money" Oh, I get it, all those mega-churches and cathedrals were built with cash sent down by Jesus! LOL! You claim "Scientology is dangerous!!" But other religions are not? Friend have your heard about religious massacres such as the Crusades, Inquisition, Holy Wars, Palestine, IRA, Iraq, Serbia, 9-11? Millions killed fighting for imaginary gods.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Amen PleasePonderThis!
jimmydoolittle22 4 years ago
See the problem with you already is you call Scientology a religion this is not what is is it's a cult and there's a very strong difference between that btw stop using stuff that happend in the dark ages. Just so you know i don't consider myself as christian either because i could cross that out with logic reasoning and just wel just the real science
lodeclaes060689 4 years ago
..those "mega-churches and cathedrals" were sponsored by wealthy patrons hundreds of years ago--THEY were the ones who approached architects to build the churches for them, often to house important relics or stand as testament to their (the patron's) power. I would think that paying for something that THEY COMMISSIONED is pretty obviously different from being required to PAY FOR INFORMATION on a supposed "faith", no?
anonicakes 3 years ago 3
Scientology is going down.
Gamebzerker54321 4 years ago 5
Stop spamming, no one cares
You can believe in Xenu or whatever all you want, people have the right to believe in whatever they want. As you have said, most religons are silly. The problem that people have with scientology is the corruption that is very present within the organization. Such as people wanting to leave being forced into hotel rooms to eventually die of dehydration. Frivolous lawsuits and conspiracies that are initiated by the "church" to silence any opponents.
turboflame12 4 years ago 6
My point was not to defend Scientology but rather to show that ALL religions are nonsense. IF it is true that Scientology won't let people leave then they are a cult and perhaps a dangerous one. However, if you think that cults harm people but religions don't please ponder the Crusades, the Inquisition, countless Holy Wars, IRA, Jew killing pograms, Beiruit, Serbia, Bosnia, Israel, Palestine, Mulsim and Hindu massacres in India, etc, etc. Millions dead and wounded fighting for imaginary gods.
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Read your Bible.
Any born-again Christian following Jesus Christ doesn't kill people.
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The misuse of the Bible never disproves it.
It simply confirms it.
trac4yt 4 years ago 3
trac4yt, you said, "Any born-again Christian following Jesus Christ doesn't kill people." LOL! Our prisons are filled with born-again murders. And please don't say they aren't "real" Christians. Who are you to judge? And our military is filled with born-agains who can't wait to kill Muslim infidels in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who can blame them? Their Bible fully supports killing people of other faiths. Want the chapter and verse?
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
Religion isn't other attack.
A business is.
noteoghan 4 years ago 2
Christianity= Religion
Co$= Scamming cult forged on the fantasies of Hubbard, a Science FICTION writer...
MrXyZeR 4 years ago 3
But the jews killed Jesus for the Lulz. Scientology is not about Lulz it is about suppressing free speech, stealing money, accidentally killing people and being an all around Lulz Kill.
GibsMyNibs 4 years ago 5
If scientology was so good as you make them, why the hell are they so overprotective and offensive against anyone not following the scientology-lifestyle?
Its more fucked up than islam, christianity and all those other crap cults. End 'em all.
Trmpah 4 years ago 4
wow i hate you fuck u u are trying to make people stupid just like you so that you can recruit you adn ur scientoligist fuckers to do stupid shit and pretend to be doing good stuff and bla bla bla scientology is a DISEASE that is spreading between very famous people and crack addicts plz dont listen to him and down mark my comment thumbs down because you all know what im saying is true...
llK1NGp1Nll 4 years ago 5
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PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
You need a bullet in the head, much like the victims your "religion" *cough cough CULT* makes every day.
Gamebzerker54321 4 years ago
Agreed.
Gamebzerker54321 4 years ago
You made my day....freak.
Spirithammer 4 years ago 2
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Scientology is weird. But Christians believe in only reasonable things. Like invisible angels and demons. LOL! And that God once killed everyone in the entire world. Even all the babies! All drowned! Only one family survived. Then He sent a ghost (yep, a ghost) to impregnate a virgin lady. Why? So she could deliver a man-god called Jesus. Why? So Jesus could be killed! Why? So Christians, but ONLY Christians, could live forever and ever! LOL! Absolute insanity! And you laugh at Scientology?
PleasePonderThis 4 years ago
religion and scientology are a load of shite.
stupidcunts 4 years ago 4
i grew up under the christian faith went to a catholic school dragged to church on sundays.
there is nothing in the bible that proves there is a god its all about faith and as far as ime concerned faith is for suckers.
i didnt teach this bullshit to my kids and a lot of other people are turning away from the church . christian churches are dieing. but not fast enough for me .
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Of course christianity is just as kooky as scientology. Just fabricated a couple millenia earlier. In fact, the ridiculousness of established religions INSPIRED L. Ron Hubbard to fabricate a brand new one in the early '50's.
indignant99 4 years ago
Great point.
owheydusoapsk 4 years ago
scientology is NOT A RELIGION!!!!!!! it has front groups that are only there to recruit the only reason scientologists are against phyciatry is because they need to keep the mentally ill...ILL so they don't see what a farse scientology is
ohbuddyiliketowatch 4 years ago 13